Posted: 10/17/2022 4:37:39 PM EDT
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Jesus, I said "usually" and I was giving examples, I'm fully aware of what irrigate and debride mean. You knew exactly what I meant but took the opportunity to flex. When we use the term I&D in the UC/ED setting it usually means incision and drainage relating to abscesses. Funny you insult NP's when I've had to correct misdiagnoses (or see their shitty procedural skills) from ED physicians on multiple occasions. Just last week I had an 11-year-old kid come in after an ED physician stapled a deep laceration on his left knee.
The last two providers who were fired from my UC were physicians for negligence. In fact, all of the providers who were fired in the 10 years I've been in the medical field were all physicians (4 total). I have some NP/PA coworkers who I would trust with my life over some physicians. That being said, I've also worked with some amazing physicians.
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Glad things are turning for the better. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quote History Quoted:Quoted:Quoted:Quoted: ‘I&D’ is irrigate and debride, basically draining the would, flushing it out and removing any dead tissue. “Irrigate and debride” is a procedure usually for bone and joint infections. Incision and drainage (I&D) is usually for abscesses. OP definitely has some cellulitis with what looks like an early formation of an abscess. (Urgent care NP). I would expect an NP to know irrigate means wash out, it isn’t exclusive to bone. I irrigate after perforated bowel stuff, be it an appy, sigmoid colon, small bowel perf, all the time, no bones involved. Not in my AO. Debride means cut out dead tissue. It can be bone, muscle, skin, fat, lung—it’s dead tissue that’s food to bacteria & releasing potassium & other once intracellular/contained crap into the patient & bacterial spooge, too. Just a general surgeon for 30 years….but if this is what NPs are taught, no wonder ERs & urgent cares are messed up—poor education. Jesus, I said "usually" and I was giving examples, I'm fully aware of what irrigate and debride mean. You knew exactly what I meant but took the opportunity to flex. When we use the term I&D in the UC/ED setting it usually means incision and drainage relating to abscesses. Funny you insult NP's when I've had to correct misdiagnoses (or see their shitty procedural skills) from ED physicians on multiple occasions. Just last week I had an 11-year-old kid come in after an ED physician stapled a deep laceration on his left knee. The last two providers who were fired from my UC were physicians for negligence. In fact, all of the providers who were fired in the 10 years I've been in the medical field were all physicians (4 total). I have some NP/PA coworkers who I would trust with my life over some physicians. That being said, I've also worked with some amazing physicians. @TWO_LABS Glad things are turning for the better. Since the last 50 cent sized skin abscess I dealt with last by an ER NP lead to a sepsis work up, CT of the chest, abd & pelvis to “rule out a fistula,” which was done without oral or IV contrast, then led to an interventional radiology consultation, set up for transfer until the CMO requested a local surgeon evaluate the patient—then they got the ER PA to I&D the abscess because i was in the OR…. Yea, i stand by my statement.
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