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Posted: 1/16/2019 3:03:02 AM EST
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A grounding of equipment perhaps? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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After he says he is on his way (get off the computer and go to the ER, right now): What could have been done to prevent this, given the spill already happened? What could he have done..? Tried to ventilate, but that's another ignition source if too close. Sprayed the site with the fire extinguisher first, knocking down the vapors. Dumped the AFFF in the hanger. Wait, we're not on a ship, probably no AFFF. |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 7:00:14 AM EST
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People don't think acetone be like it is, but it do.
Please don't die, OP. I am (pleasantly) surprised that so many on here recommend ER- you know they might give him opioids and next week he'll be a crack addict. 
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Posted: 1/16/2019 7:59:36 AM EST
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My next door neighbor has been in the local racing scene for longer than he's lived next door.
He was always either working on his car, or building a new car. I came home from work one day and when I pulled into my carport I noticed his car was gone and his garage door was open. I walked over there and no one was around. A disassembled fuel cell was in setting outside (well, the tank part) and it was scorched. Scorch marks on the door, on the ceiling joists, on the floor, etc. I went to the front door and rang the door bell. Nothing. I closed the garage door and locked it and went to my house. He came home later and I walked over to his garage. He said he had removed the access plate on the top of the fuel cell after pouring out as much gas as he could. Then he began to reach inside to pull out the foam (?) blocks inside the fuel cell to help reduce sloshing of fuel during the race. On about the third foam block the fumes burst into flames. He jumped up, kicked the burning fuel cell outside onto the driveway and grabbed a fire extinguisher. He put out the flames on the ceiling joists and the floor and then got the fuel cell. Then he went straight to the house and had his wife drive him to the emergency room. He just lost some hair and had what looked like a pretty good sunburn here and there on his hands/arms and a cheek. Static electricity. Flammable fumes. Can be bad. |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 8:04:26 AM EST
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large 2nd degree burn, good chance of infection. I'd get that looked at op.
Then again, it's your hand... |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 8:05:42 AM EST
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This happened like 4 hours ago... I put the fire out and then proceeded to unfuck everything that was coated in fire extinguisher dust. ETA: I am going in the morning. I appreciate all the advice and take it to heart, but I'm typing with that hand as we speak (and yes it is sore). 
FYI: Acetone is soluble/miscible with water. If this happens again, dilute the acetone first with water, then clean it up. |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 9:03:49 AM EST
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GO TO THE ER RIGHT NOW!!! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This happened like 4 hours ago... I put the fire out and then proceeded to unfuck everything that was coated in fire extinguisher dust. ETA: I am going in the morning. I appreciate all the advice and take it to heart, but I'm typing with that hand as we speak (and yes it is sore). |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 9:06:56 AM EST
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Dang OP. Glad you didn’t die.
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Posted: 1/16/2019 9:37:44 AM EST
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what started the fire
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Posted: 1/16/2019 9:50:09 AM EST
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Hopefully OP is at the OR. If not he is OOL!
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Posted: 1/16/2019 10:00:26 AM EST
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ER OP, seriously.
Had a coworker get burned on his leg a few years ago. He was lighting a brush pile and dumb fucker used gas. It flashed back and burned is leg pretty bad. He waited a few days because he is big dumb and tuff. Well, his wife made him go after he started running a really high fever. They went to the local ER and DR took one look and said NOPE!. Within a few hours he was in the burn unit in Augusta GA. He ended up having a blood infection and went through a series of skin grafts. |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 10:01:36 AM EST
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Tag for AAR.
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Posted: 1/16/2019 10:05:48 AM EST
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Thats a BAD burn if the dermis sloughed off like that yikes
Seek medical help NOW |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 10:12:32 AM EST
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what started the fire Sepsis is fucking nasty, OP and can very easily kill you. "Sealing" that wound with antibiotic cream without cleaning and debriding it first probably just sealed any bacteria and germs inside the wound in the nice warm, moist environment you created with the ointment and damaged tissue, not to mention a chemical burn can keep "burning"/reacting when sealed like that. Damage looks primarily thermal but still... Hope it turns out okay for you. 
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Posted: 1/16/2019 10:16:50 AM EST
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for crying out loud.
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Posted: 1/16/2019 10:19:17 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: for crying out loud.
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Posted: 1/16/2019 10:23:10 AM EST
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Posted: 1/16/2019 10:24:14 AM EST
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I remember reading a story about a local guy who was in his basement, removing old flooring adhesive off a concrete floor, with a metal scraper. the fumes built up (no ventilation) and his metal tool sparked off the concrete. Instant 3rd degree burns and I think he later died.
The shit you (I) never think of will bite you on the ass. 
Hope it works out for you OP. |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 10:29:12 AM EST
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Looks like 2nd degree burn.
Medical help is advised. But if it were me, id just take proper care for it untill an urgent care clinic opens. $50 copay vs $100 ER visit and $2700 for gauze wrap, $500 for ointment that would be covered under a copay at at clinic. And another $3000 for miscellaneous things and having to wait for hours for a doctor to look at you just in time for shift change, in which you'd be waiting more for the new shift doctor to come look at you. Another $1500 because your labs were sent to be looked at by someone that just so happens to be out of network. And when you pay for it all on time, they still send you to collections. But....thats just me |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 10:34:33 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly. Just rub some dirt in it and walk it off. |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 10:40:40 AM EST
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Looks like 2nd degree burn. Medical help is advised. But if it were me, id just take proper care for it untill an urgent care clinic opens. $50 copay vs $100 ER visit and $2700 for gauze wrap, $500 for ointment that would be covered under a copay at at clinic. And another $3000 for miscellaneous things and having to wait for hours for a doctor to look at you just in time for shift change, in which you'd be waiting more for the new shift doctor to come look at you. Another $1500 because your labs were sent to be looked at by someone that just so happens to be out of network. And when you pay for it all on time, they still send you to collections. But....thats just me |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 10:41:40 AM EST
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Praying OP is doing good
..that's a bad burn brother. |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 10:53:38 AM EST
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Update: Waiting at urgent care.... my insurance sucks by the way, I had to get a referral from my primary care to get insurance to cover it
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Posted: 1/16/2019 10:59:29 AM EST
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Thanks for this. I have almost the same setup as you and use acetone to clean my spray gun. I had no idea it could ignite so easily. I keep a few gallons of it and brake clean right by my feet, I think I will store them somewhere else. I did catch my air compressor on fire and it spread fast so i can relate to the powder everywhere. I learned the hard way then that I "thought" I knew where my fire extinguishers were. I hope you are back in action in no time.
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Posted: 1/16/2019 11:00:08 AM EST
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Update: Waiting at urgent care.... my insurance sucks by the way, I had to get a referral from my primary care to get insurance to cover it
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Posted: 1/16/2019 11:02:54 AM EST
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Posted: 1/16/2019 11:08:06 AM EST
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Thanks for this. I have almost the same setup as you and use acetone to clean my spray gun. I had no idea it could ignite so easily. I keep a few gallons of it and brake clean right by my feet, I think I will store them somewhere else. I did catch my air compressor on fire and it spread fast so i can relate to the powder everywhere. I learned the hard way then that I "thought" I knew where my fire extinguishers were. I hope you are back in action in no time. |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 11:12:13 AM EST
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Urgent care? You're in the wrong office. You need to be in the ER of a hospital with a burn unit. Not that they'll admit you, necessarily, but burn treatment is a specialty.
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Posted: 1/16/2019 11:17:32 AM EST
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Update: Waiting at urgent care.... my insurance sucks by the way, I had to get a referral from my primary care to get insurance to cover it |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 11:18:53 AM EST
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Urgent care is likely to send you to the ER. Urgent care handles things that are not that serious or can wait for a doctor's appointment. |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 11:20:28 AM EST
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shit they didn't even ask to look at it before telling me about the insurance thing UC handles things like a small number of stitches, bronchitis, the flu etc. You need burn care. |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 11:20:38 AM EST
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Urgent care? You're in the wrong office. You need to be in the ER of a hospital with a burn unit. Not that they'll admit you, necessarily, but burn treatment is a specialty. Quoted:
Urgent care is likely to send you to the ER. Urgent care handles things that are not that serious or can wait for a doctor's appointment. . Your primary should have sent you to ER or a burn clinic
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Posted: 1/16/2019 11:20:44 AM EST
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They’re likely gonna send you to the ER anyway.
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Posted: 1/16/2019 11:50:09 AM EST
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A shitty job I had after high school was at a plant where large underground tanks were manufactured. These were the early fiberglass tanks which are commonplace now.
New guys got all the great jobs and one of them was to run a bucket full of acetone and mop the fiberglass dust out of the tank bodies before the end caps were put on. I got to do this several times and had no protective gear, mask or any precautions. In the same plant we used MEK, which is now known to be a cancer cause. Guys would get stoned from the fumes and fall off the big mandrel where curing resin and chopped glass was sprayed to form the tank shell. Why we never had a fire, I don't know. Years later, working for the FD, I got to see several victims of flash fires like the OP experienced. You can't be too careful with this stuff, and yes, prompt treatment is required for serious burns like this. You can die. You will suffer. |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 12:04:01 PM EST
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Damn, son!
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Posted: 1/16/2019 12:20:09 PM EST
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You gonna need some Tussin to rub on that. Go to the doc.
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Posted: 1/16/2019 12:28:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A grounding of equipment perhaps? |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 12:31:40 PM EST
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A grounding of equipment perhaps? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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After he says he is on his way (get off the computer and go to the ER, right now): What could have been done to prevent this, given the spill already happened? |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 1:10:45 PM EST
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Prevention? Spill proof/resistant safety container. Proper safety measures. PPE. Other things.
Was a water heater in the space with an open combustion chamber? My BIL got burned using spray paint in his garage due to old water heater. |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 1:17:44 PM EST
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Prevention? Spill proof/resistant safety container. Proper safety measures. PPE. Other things. Was a water heater in the space with an open combustion chamber? My BIL got burned using spray paint in his garage due to old water heater. |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 1:26:25 PM EST
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Acetone is no joke from a fire safety, PPE, and plastics "melting" perspective as the OP has discovered. I only clean parts outside when using it.
Something else you have to be careful with is Purple Power degreaser, not so much for fire hazard but skin/eye exposure and it eats aluminum like crazy. It's one of the best oil finish stock cleaners there is to get off oil, dirt, or cosmo prior to a oil refinish but I won't usually recommend it because peeps are too stupid to use it properly.
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Posted: 1/16/2019 2:10:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: for crying out loud. |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 3:21:46 PM EST
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I've got a sand blaster at work that gives no matter that its grounded. I'm thinking maybe a grounded "lightning rod" dangling from the top might stop the static. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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After he says he is on his way (get off the computer and go to the ER, right now): What could have been done to prevent this, given the spill already happened? |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 3:26:50 PM EST
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Quote History Damn dude, I wish you a quick recovery! |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 3:33:27 PM EST
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OP, glad you’re doing it right and not waiting. Let us know how it goes
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Posted: 1/16/2019 3:55:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Neither of the blast cabinets I use give a shit about being grounded. Nothing I've tried seems to work. As simple and stupid as that may sound, I have had this kick the collective asses of some high horsepower engineering teams, but I solved the issue by strict application of fundamentals. 
People that have undergone CE testing and certification tend to have a better grasp on panel and hardware grounding of equipment. High voltage and leakage current tests are part of the required compliance. Study up. |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 4:00:50 PM EST
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So did they amputate the OPs hands yet?
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Posted: 1/16/2019 4:06:43 PM EST
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Wtf? I read this last night and was almost sure you'd listen and go to the ER.
Apparently not... Burns are nothing to mess with. I had a similar burn when I was younger and it was the most excruciating pain ever. How you're not in pain right now is beyond me. Also your chances for an infection have skyrocketed by not getting it treated immediately and continuing to not get it treated for hours. |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 4:07:59 PM EST
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Looks painful, OP.
Heal up quick |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 4:15:12 PM EST
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Hopefully OP went to the ER
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Posted: 1/16/2019 4:16:53 PM EST
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well, hell.
In for results.
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