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Quoted: The French Revolution led to an era of darkness and was one of the worst things that has happened to France. Le roi est mort, vive le roi. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/33069/2020-08-02-12_jpg-2885177.JPG View Quote Arguably france had seared her national conscience much earlier, with the st. bartholomew day massacre being an outward symptom of it. I don't know when, but that sort of horror had found a route into their national culture, as a real possible thing. |
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Quoted: So what you're saying is neither a monarchy nor a constitutional federal republic is capable of stopping human nature. That's a real convincing argument you have there. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Guess what system of government allowed Hitler to rise to power? That's right - a constitutional federal republic. People often forget that Hitler didn't end up the dictator of a one-party state as a result of revolution or coup or anything like that. He came to power in a completely legal way in a democratic constitutional republic. (The Reichstag Fire Decree by President Hindenburg was legal and consistent with the Weimar Republic Constitution, which means that the Enabling Law of 1933 was legal.) So what you're saying is neither a monarchy nor a constitutional federal republic is capable of stopping human nature. That's a real convincing argument you have there. No system we come up with will stop human nature. We can't do it. We will be re-founding and fighting these same fights until the second coming. Only God can change what is broken in man's makeup. There are, imo, better or worse systems of government, in that some recognize the corruption of human nature and seek to fight it, where others do not. Monarchy is worse than constitional republics because monarchy piles a huge amount onto one human. "regicide works" ... only to kill the king. Not more. Not less. Look at the history of regicides, and what came after. After a regicide, you only get what you always get - whatever is in the character and culture of the people that killed the king. There isn't anything else to get. IMO yall are wearing some rose-colored glasses. ETA: I frankly suspect we get more by doing what we can to fix the foundation stones - culture - by fixing people. It's an inherently local effort, even when the local is working to fix industries with a global reach. |
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Quoted: The USA had systematically murdered 60+ million people since 1973. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: but no democracy has committed the mass democide that was the hallmark of the 20th century. The USA had systematically murdered 60+ million people since 1973. Oh, but those aren't people, not humans, not really, they only look like it, your eyes are decieving you. Because the person in control over the pregnancy says so. (almost exactly the same justification the slavers used, except more brutal and with a worse result) |
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Quoted: LOL The United States in the span of thirty years forcibly sterilized 1/3 of the entire female population of Puerto Rico. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Nothing stops human nature. And whether Hitler got to power by democratic means or not he certainly didn't maintain a democracy. He couldn't and do what he did. In a perverse way he superficially took the responsibility off the German people which gave them an excuse to go along. Democracies aren't perfect, they may be so flawed as to be nearly unworkable, but no democracy has committed the mass democide that was the hallmark of the 20th century. You could argue the US did in the 19th century in regards to Native Americans. Horrible but not on the scale of Europe or China in the 20th. Only authoritarian systems appear to have the ability to bypass the common decency of most of humanity. They do this by concentrating power within a few very flawed humans and temporarily at least removing culpability from the citizenry. Political systems are just a manifestation of the psychology of the people that make up a society. In the average that psychology isn't malignant, but concentrate the power too much and you run the risk of putting pathological personalities in positions of total control. Lots of very flawed personalities are drawn to such positions. Historically monarchies thrived until you got a bad monarch. Then things failed spectacularly. Democracies muddle through as the pendulum swings. The United States in the span of thirty years forcibly sterilized 1/3 of the entire female population of Puerto Rico. Eugenics was a thing, and while it was the progressivist's pet cause, I don't read where it was widely disowned until that art school failure gave it a bad name. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6XfU8KVkzI There are likely still some people alive right now who were sterilized forcibly or without their knowledge at the behest of the government of the states. |
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Quoted: Lol. Enjoy your fellow citizens. https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/newscms/2020_48/3431704/201129-lgbt-church-jm-1027.jpg https://www.mnys.org/assets/1/6/mainfckeditordimension/lgbt1.jpg https://scsw-elca.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/IMG_0033-scaled.jpg https://bethelstl.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Pride2019--862x595.jpg https://lirp.cdn-website.com/d6cb2afc/dms3rep/multi/opt/19453004_10155061459174213_7632571402301661391_o-960w.jpg https://www.elm.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/ELM-outreach-poster.jpg View Quote Lussah precipitated (in his defense, unknowingly) the so-called "enlightenment." |
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Quoted: Lussah precipitated (in his defense, unknowingly) the so-called "enlightenment." View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Lol. Enjoy your fellow citizens. https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/newscms/2020_48/3431704/201129-lgbt-church-jm-1027.jpg https://www.mnys.org/assets/1/6/mainfckeditordimension/lgbt1.jpg https://scsw-elca.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/IMG_0033-scaled.jpg https://bethelstl.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Pride2019--862x595.jpg https://lirp.cdn-website.com/d6cb2afc/dms3rep/multi/opt/19453004_10155061459174213_7632571402301661391_o-960w.jpg https://www.elm.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/ELM-outreach-poster.jpg Lussah precipitated (in his defense, unknowingly) the so-called "enlightenment." classes 1 through 8 of this are VERY good on how it worked its way into religion on that front: https://subsplash.com/reformtheosem/learn-about-rts/ms/+3a1a9fc ... they are free, and you don't even need to register an account to DL them. 1-4 are the core of that bit. Best explanation of how theological liberalism came out of germany and wormed its way into things (that I have heard yet). |
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Quoted: Eugenics was a thing, and while it was the progressivist's pet cause, I don't read where it was widely disowned until that art school failure gave it a bad name. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6XfU8KVkzI There are likely still some people alive right now who were sterilized forcibly or without their knowledge at the behest of the government of the states. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Nothing stops human nature. And whether Hitler got to power by democratic means or not he certainly didn't maintain a democracy. He couldn't and do what he did. In a perverse way he superficially took the responsibility off the German people which gave them an excuse to go along. Democracies aren't perfect, they may be so flawed as to be nearly unworkable, but no democracy has committed the mass democide that was the hallmark of the 20th century. You could argue the US did in the 19th century in regards to Native Americans. Horrible but not on the scale of Europe or China in the 20th. Only authoritarian systems appear to have the ability to bypass the common decency of most of humanity. They do this by concentrating power within a few very flawed humans and temporarily at least removing culpability from the citizenry. Political systems are just a manifestation of the psychology of the people that make up a society. In the average that psychology isn't malignant, but concentrate the power too much and you run the risk of putting pathological personalities in positions of total control. Lots of very flawed personalities are drawn to such positions. Historically monarchies thrived until you got a bad monarch. Then things failed spectacularly. Democracies muddle through as the pendulum swings. The United States in the span of thirty years forcibly sterilized 1/3 of the entire female population of Puerto Rico. Eugenics was a thing, and while it was the progressivist's pet cause, I don't read where it was widely disowned until that art school failure gave it a bad name. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6XfU8KVkzI There are likely still some people alive right now who were sterilized forcibly or without their knowledge at the behest of the government of the states. |
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Quoted: The US forced sterilizations in Puerto Rico until the 1970s. Long after the failed art student gave it a bad name. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Nothing stops human nature. And whether Hitler got to power by democratic means or not he certainly didn't maintain a democracy. He couldn't and do what he did. In a perverse way he superficially took the responsibility off the German people which gave them an excuse to go along. Democracies aren't perfect, they may be so flawed as to be nearly unworkable, but no democracy has committed the mass democide that was the hallmark of the 20th century. You could argue the US did in the 19th century in regards to Native Americans. Horrible but not on the scale of Europe or China in the 20th. Only authoritarian systems appear to have the ability to bypass the common decency of most of humanity. They do this by concentrating power within a few very flawed humans and temporarily at least removing culpability from the citizenry. Political systems are just a manifestation of the psychology of the people that make up a society. In the average that psychology isn't malignant, but concentrate the power too much and you run the risk of putting pathological personalities in positions of total control. Lots of very flawed personalities are drawn to such positions. Historically monarchies thrived until you got a bad monarch. Then things failed spectacularly. Democracies muddle through as the pendulum swings. The United States in the span of thirty years forcibly sterilized 1/3 of the entire female population of Puerto Rico. Eugenics was a thing, and while it was the progressivist's pet cause, I don't read where it was widely disowned until that art school failure gave it a bad name. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6XfU8KVkzI There are likely still some people alive right now who were sterilized forcibly or without their knowledge at the behest of the government of the states. It went on in CONUS too. Likely until almost the same decade. Cold harbor is, AFAIK, still a thing. ETA: And it continues on in the form of abortion. I am so very not surprised that they did it to puerto ricans, it always was a classist/racist system, hatched by our supposed "betters" to keep the "undesireables" from having kids. Irony, the same people hatched the minimum wage as an idea for the same reason: make it harder for undesireables to afford having a family. |
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Quoted: Eugenics was a thing, and while it was the progressivist's pet cause, I don't read where it was widely disowned until that art school failure gave it a bad name. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6XfU8KVkzI There are likely still some people alive right now who were sterilized forcibly or without their knowledge at the behest of the government of the states. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Nothing stops human nature. And whether Hitler got to power by democratic means or not he certainly didn't maintain a democracy. He couldn't and do what he did. In a perverse way he superficially took the responsibility off the German people which gave them an excuse to go along. Democracies aren't perfect, they may be so flawed as to be nearly unworkable, but no democracy has committed the mass democide that was the hallmark of the 20th century. You could argue the US did in the 19th century in regards to Native Americans. Horrible but not on the scale of Europe or China in the 20th. Only authoritarian systems appear to have the ability to bypass the common decency of most of humanity. They do this by concentrating power within a few very flawed humans and temporarily at least removing culpability from the citizenry. Political systems are just a manifestation of the psychology of the people that make up a society. In the average that psychology isn't malignant, but concentrate the power too much and you run the risk of putting pathological personalities in positions of total control. Lots of very flawed personalities are drawn to such positions. Historically monarchies thrived until you got a bad monarch. Then things failed spectacularly. Democracies muddle through as the pendulum swings. The United States in the span of thirty years forcibly sterilized 1/3 of the entire female population of Puerto Rico. Eugenics was a thing, and while it was the progressivist's pet cause, I don't read where it was widely disowned until that art school failure gave it a bad name. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6XfU8KVkzI There are likely still some people alive right now who were sterilized forcibly or without their knowledge at the behest of the government of the states. Medical care was good decades ago. People who couldn't survive on their own passed to the Divine Beyond and everyone was more religious for it. Society was better as a result. We can't save every genetic defect that is a drain on society but I understand why people try. It will not last through the collapse of the petrodollar. |
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Quoted: Oh, but those aren't people, not humans, not really, they only look like it, your eyes are decieving you. Because the person in control over the pregnancy says so. (almost exactly the same justification the slavers used, except more brutal and with a worse result) View Quote Correct. If humanity survives I think the USA will be looked back on as turbo-Hitler. |
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View Quote WESTMORELAND. O that we now had here But one ten thousand of those men in England That do no work to-day! KING. What's he that wishes so? My cousin, Westmoreland? No, my fair cousin; If we are mark'd to die, we are enow To do our country loss; and if to live, The fewer men, the greater share of honour. God's will! I pray thee, wish not one man more. By Jove, I am not covetous for gold, Nor care I who doth feed upon my cost; It yearns me not if men my garments wear; Such outward things dwell not in my desires. But if it be a sin to covet honour, I am the most offending soul alive. No, faith, my coz, wish not a man from England. God's peace! I would not lose so great an honour As one man more methinks would share from me For the best hope I have. O, do not wish one more! Rather proclaim it, Westmoreland , through my host, That he which hath no stomach to this fight, Let him depart; his passport shall be made, And crowns for convoy put into his purse; We would not die in that man's company That fears his fellowship to die with us. This day is call'd the feast of Crispian. He that outlives this day, and comes safe home, Will stand a tip-toe when this day is nam'd, And rouse him at the name of Crispian. He that shall live this day, and see old age, Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours, And say "To-morrow is Saint Crispian." Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars, And say "These wounds I had on Crispin's day." Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot, But he'll remember, with advantages, What feats he did that day. Then shall our names, Familiar in his mouth as household words— Harry the King, Bedford and Exeter, Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester— Be in their flowing cups freshly rememb'red. This story shall the good man teach his son; And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by, From this day to the ending of the world, But we in it shall be rememberèd— We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; For he to-day that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile, This day shall gentle his condition; And gentlemen in England now a-bed Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day. Thats what KING's say about war. Now post some dumbass president speech, you cant cause they suck. |
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View Quote Pyramids are still gross even if monarchs made them. |
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Quoted: By iwouldnknow: Medical care was good decades ago. People who couldn't survive on their own passed to the Divine Beyond and everyone was more religious for it. Society was better as a result. We can't save every genetic defect that is a drain on society but I understand why people try. It will not last through the collapse of the petrodollar. View Quote Well there you have it. Death is better for society and People who aren't up to your measure are not people, they are "genetic defects" and nothing but a drain on society. Leave it to the machiavellians to be this irrational and weak minded. |
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Quoted: Correct. If humanity survives I think the USA will be looked back on as turbo-Hitler. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Oh, but those aren't people, not humans, not really, they only look like it, your eyes are decieving you. Because the person in control over the pregnancy says so. (almost exactly the same justification the slavers used, except more brutal and with a worse result) Correct. If humanity survives I think the USA will be looked back on as turbo-Hitler. If you didn't know, the ccp publicly admits to 400+ million abortions. IDK how many of those are forced, and it doesn't touch on the deaths by exposure after birth. Communists ignore human nature in a way that seems to always make them win the award for most murderous. |
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Quoted: Well there you have it. Death is better for society and People who aren't up to your measure are not people, they are "genetic defects" and nothing but a drain on society. Leave it to the machiavellians to be this irrational and weak minded. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: By iwouldnknow: Medical care was good decades ago. People who couldn't survive on their own passed to the Divine Beyond and everyone was more religious for it. Society was better as a result. We can't save every genetic defect that is a drain on society but I understand why people try. It will not last through the collapse of the petrodollar. Well there you have it. Death is better for society and People who aren't up to your measure are not people, they are "genetic defects" and nothing but a drain on society. Leave it to the machiavellians to be this irrational and weak minded. Meanwhile you suggest keeping any hint of natural selection at bay with a precipitously expensive medical system by robbing our children blind with fiat currency. |
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Quoted: If you didn't know, the ccp publicly admits to 400+ million abortions. IDK how many of those are forced, and it doesn't touch on the deaths by exposure after birth. Communists ignore human nature in a way that seems to always make them win the award for most murderous. View Quote That's why I support communism becaise nothing kills more commies than commies. |
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Quoted: Pyramids are proof that all men are not, in fact, created equal, and even monarchy can't fix some people's lack of architectural aptitude. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Pyramids are still gross even if monarchs made them. Pyramids are proof that all men are not, in fact, created equal, and even monarchy can't fix some people's lack of architectural aptitude. Attached File |
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Good morning leftists.
Ready to join the right and support the monarchy yet? |
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But what about when the parties switched ideologies? People keep telling me that's true...
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Quoted: That's why I support communism becaise nothing kills more commies than commies. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: If you didn't know, the ccp publicly admits to 400+ million abortions. IDK how many of those are forced, and it doesn't touch on the deaths by exposure after birth. Communists ignore human nature in a way that seems to always make them win the award for most murderous. That's why I support communism becaise nothing kills more commies than commies. The hardest questions require the strongest will |
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OP is either a troll, idiot, or both to make such a stupid statement. He for sure can't back it up. He doesn't have the guts.
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Quoted: Everything is linear. Circular time is eastern nonsense. The point of origin determined the point of origin. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Why is it linear? And who determines point of origin? Everything is linear. Circular time is eastern nonsense. The point of origin determined the point of origin. It's time for the four sided time cube. |
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I never consifered myself far right, or even in the right. I just always voted rep. , with a few exceptions in early 90s local elections. But when i was labled right wing in say..2010, i embraced it. Its not as bad as bein valled a lefty, you know, like a COMMIE. The whole red vs. blue pisses me off tho. Only could the american media call conservative leaning voters "red" and make it stick.
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Quoted: I never consifered myself far right, or even in the right. I just always voted rep. , with a few exceptions in early 90s local elections. But when i was labled right wing in say..2010, i embraced it. Its not as bad as bein valled a lefty, you know, like a COMMIE. The whole red vs. blue pisses me off tho. Only could the american media call conservative leaning voters "red" and make it stick. View Quote I'm trying to figure out what the furthest right we can go is Maybe like an oppressive theocracy or something |
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Maybe twice a year you fight someone to the death and you get more rights the more years you last in the bloodsport government
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Quoted: I never consifered myself far right, or even in the right. I just always voted rep. , with a few exceptions in early 90s local elections. But when i was labled right wing in say..2010, i embraced it. Its not as bad as bein valled a lefty, you know, like a COMMIE. The whole red vs. blue pisses me off tho. Only could the american media call conservative leaning voters "red" and make it stick. View Quote In the 90s Republicans were blue and democrats were red. It switched i have no idea why. |
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Quoted: In the 90s Republicans were blue and democrats were red. It switched i have no idea why. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I never consifered myself far right, or even in the right. I just always voted rep. , with a few exceptions in early 90s local elections. But when i was labled right wing in say..2010, i embraced it. Its not as bad as bein valled a lefty, you know, like a COMMIE. The whole red vs. blue pisses me off tho. Only could the american media call conservative leaning voters "red" and make it stick. In the 90s Republicans were blue and democrats were red. It switched i have no idea why. |
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