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Posted: 2/25/2024 2:09:41 PM EDT
https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/american-couple-feared-dead-as-escaped-prisoners-hijack-yacht-in-caribbean
A Virginia couple who were enjoying their retirement cruising the Caribbean on their yacht are feared dead after three escaped prisoners hijacked their vessel. Ralph Hendry and Kathy Brandel were docked on Sunday in the St. George's area of Grenada, which they frequent annually in the winter months when authorities say the three fugitives set upon them and stole their yacht called "Simplicity." The vessel is a catamaran, a type of sailing yacht with two hulls. Basically boat ransacked by 3 Grenada pirates and found anchored by a third party. Pirates in jail and couple missing. |
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Pirates of the Caribbean is different in real life . Poor woman .
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Just read a few books on what being on the ocean is like across any time period in history and you quickly realize there is no such thing as paradise out there.
Way too many things to kill you and the more time you're out the more inevitable it becomes... including in port. I feel bad for their family. |
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Every boat should have a Mossberg Mariner as standard equipment
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Quoted: Pirates of the Caribbean is different in real life . Poor woman . View Quote Years ago I had a buddy that worked for an Insurance company recovering boats that were stolen, mainly in the Caribbean. He told me its a huge issue as boats are hard to track once stolen and quite a few people get whacked every year by pirates down there who steal the boats. I knew this guy pretty well, I knew what he had done in a previous life and what he was capable of. If I had to bet I'd say that when he located a stolen boat he simply stole it back. |
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Cruisers are a trusting bunch.
I'm not saying there is a 9mm and shotty onboard my catamaran. But I'm sure not saying there isn't. Hang those pirates from the spreaders of that catamaran. Let them swing in the harbor until they rot. |
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They are dead.
Sorry no one taught them about the high seas; it aint the local Whole Foods. I lived and sailed for 9 years when i lived in Haiti; went to Puerto Rico, St Lucia, Barbados. Its "OK" as long as you sort of stay on common routes. West of the islands its high seas and Pirate rule. West of St Lucia, and especially North of Colombia, directly going to Haiti and Jamaica is drug runner high seas. Everyone i knew that sailed from Jacmel Haiti went well armed and all had had run ins with trouble. We had couple 30 cal rifles; one M1 with AP ammo and we also saw LOTS of FALS. Problems arise as you have to declare the firearms and sometimes surrender them when you arrive. OR bribe folks. Which we did. A LOT. US patrols the area, as do the Dutch; who keep on large vessel in area. But it can get dicey in a hurry. |
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Quoted: They are dead. Sorry no one taught them about the high seas; it aint the local Whole Foods. I lived and sailed for 9 years when i lived in Haiti; went to Puerto Rico, St Lucia, Barbados. Its "OK" as long as you sort of stay on common routes. West of the islands its high seas and Pirate rule. West of St Lucia, and especially North of Colombia, directly going to Haiti and Jamaica is drug runner high seas. Everyone i knew that sailed from Jacmel Haiti went well armed and all had had run ins with trouble. We had couple 30 cal rifles; one M1 with AP ammo and we also saw LOTS of FALS. US patrols the area, as do the Dutch; who keep on large vessel in area. But it can get dicey in a hurry. View Quote They were not the victims of pirates on the high seas, they were set upon by three fugitives at the dock. |
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All she needed was a flare gun, coulda shot a hole in their boat
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Quoted: They are dead. Sorry no one taught them about the high seas; it aint the local Whole Foods. I lived and sailed for 9 years when i lived in Haiti; went to Puerto Rico, St Lucia, Barbados. Its "OK" as long as you sort of stay on common routes. West of the islands its high seas and Pirate rule. West of St Lucia, and especially North of Colombia, directly going to Haiti and Jamaica is drug runner high seas. Everyone i knew that sailed from Jacmel Haiti went well armed and all had had run ins with trouble. We had couple 30 cal rifles; one M1 with AP ammo and we also saw LOTS of FALS. Problems arise as you have to declare the firearms and sometimes surrender them when you arrive. OR bribe folks. Which we did. A LOT. US patrols the area, as do the Dutch; who keep on large vessel in area. But it can get dicey in a hurry. View Quote Well that covers approximately the entire Caribbean Sea. I imagine it isn't particularly bad, though your risk increases substantially if you are an obviously wealthy target. Sailing around on a boat that's a half million plus is going to attract a lot of attention, especially when you've got dirt-poor third worlders with AKs and nothing to lose. |
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Quoted: Years ago I had a buddy that worked for an Insurance company recovering boats that were stolen, mainly in the Caribbean. He told me its a huge issue as boats are hard to track once stolen and quite a few people get whacked every year by pirates down there who steal the boats. I knew this guy pretty well, I knew what he had done in a previous life and what he was capable of. If I had to bet I'd say that when he located a stolen boat he simply stole it back. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Pirates of the Caribbean is different in real life . Poor woman . Years ago I had a buddy that worked for an Insurance company recovering boats that were stolen, mainly in the Caribbean. He told me its a huge issue as boats are hard to track once stolen and quite a few people get whacked every year by pirates down there who steal the boats. I knew this guy pretty well, I knew what he had done in a previous life and what he was capable of. If I had to bet I'd say that when he located a stolen boat he simply stole it back. Having spent a couple years repoing cars trucks 18wheelers, motorcycles and rv’s , I can only imagine the stories that guy could tell . Over a bottle of rum …. |
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It's hard for me to imagine at least semi rich people being so obtuse about their own safety and well being. But here is this story so they are out there. If I had to guess I would suspect they never envisioned their politics and reality colliding so violently.
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terrible story, too bad he was not able to protect his wife and himself. hopefully the perps get the death penalty and a burial at sea too.
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Quoted: Other countries have very strict gun laws, in some countries it carries the death penalty. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I've heard that guns onboard will get you into serious trouble in many other countries. Other countries have very strict gun laws, in some countries it carries the death penalty. Pretty fucked up you die for not having a gun, or you can die just for having one. |
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So basically, drop anchor offshore and stay away from the docks
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Sounds like life (and death) in an area where government has very little control over peoples lives, and everyone is responsible for their own safety, and no one else will be there to help you. This is exactly the kind of environment we all hope to live in here, once day, when true liberty returns to the United States. I mean, we usually don’t talk about THIS side of the utopia that we’re trying to usher in, but the free access to drugs and whatever other vice we want to participate in more than makes up for a little piracy. Don’t want to be raped and murdered by pirates? Maybe just stay home in your basement. Freedom is scary, and all that.
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Quoted: I've heard that guns onboard will get you into serious trouble in many other countries. View Quote Not really . If they know you are from the US they expect firearms and ammo on the boat . They want to know exactly what you are bringing in and that you leave with the same firearms and ammo . If you don’t declare it and they find them you will be in trouble . |
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Quoted: They are dead. Sorry no one taught them about the high seas; it aint the local Whole Foods. I lived and sailed for 9 years when i lived in Haiti; went to Puerto Rico, St Lucia, Barbados. Its "OK" as long as you sort of stay on common routes. West of the islands its high seas and Pirate rule. West of St Lucia, and especially North of Colombia, directly going to Haiti and Jamaica is drug runner high seas. Everyone i knew that sailed from Jacmel Haiti went well armed and all had had run ins with trouble. We had couple 30 cal rifles; one M1 with AP ammo and we also saw LOTS of FALS. Problems arise as you have to declare the firearms and sometimes surrender them when you arrive. OR bribe folks. Which we did. A LOT. US patrols the area, as do the Dutch; who keep on large vessel in area. But it can get dicey in a hurry. View Quote |
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