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Posted: 8/15/2021 9:12:14 PM EDT
I've done the old "I'll plug the one ear closest to gunfire" before and that's not anywhere near artillery.
Any war footage from GWOT they're not exactly doubling up on ear pro, and even then.... I have to assume no one who does artillery can hear anything. |
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I work with a guy who was an artillery guy in the marines. He is deaf as shit.
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Quoted: I work with a guy who was an artillery guy in the marines. He is deaf as shit. View Quote Quoted: Never in the military but as a former bass player in a metal band all I can say is https://c.tenor.com/J18Mu0K34zsAAAAC/peewee-herman.gif View Quote I don't see any possible way either profession leaves you with any decent hearing. |
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Only met one in person once at a gun range.
He spent eight minutes deriding my first AR build in a voice so loud I wished I had plugs on under my earmuffs. I wasn't planning on building any more ARs. But I just had to after that. Later found out he got fired from his job for being reckless with firearms and his wife ran off with a biker gang. |
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They are almost as deaf as us old 106mm recoiless riflemen......
WHAT?????????? |
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Quoted: They also suffer brain trauma. View Quote That makes sense. The repeated concussion. I remember someone saying they actually had a limit on what was "prudent" for how many rounds a guy should fire with a Carl G. I would imagine you don't get that courtesy if an artillery barrage is requested. |
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22 years in the Field Artillery and most guys I know have pretty significant hearing loss. My dad and uncle were FA also and both had significant hearing damage. My hearing aids I got while on Active Duty were some of the best things I got from the Mil/VA. Without them, I can hardly hear my wife or daughter.
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92 Golf is my answer, plus cooking food for other people is fun.
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I have chronic tinnitus but my hearing otherwise is fairly good……although my wife would disagree with the latter
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Quoted: 22 years in the Field Artillery and most guys I know have pretty significant hearing loss. My dad and uncle were FA also and both had significant hearing damage. My hearing aids I got while on Active Duty were some of the best things I got from the Mil/VA. Without them, I can hardly hear my wife or daughter. View Quote I figured as much. I didn't think of a way around that outcome. I'm sure you helped out a lot of guys though brother. |
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My dad was in artillery, but his hearing loss is congenital. It doesn't just run in my family, it gallops. Around age 50 we start needing hearing aids.
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I got tinnitus, but my hearing is actually as good now as it was when I enlisted
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10yrs mostly as an Army 11C, half the time 4.2in/107mm, the other half M29A1 then M252 81mm, last 6 mos as 120mm.
Those M252 Improved 81mm Mortar Systems are notorious for hearing damage, so bad they had to put the cone shaped blast attenuator on the muzzle to make it safe for US Troops; Brits use it without for some reason. Anyhoo, when working the AG position, helping to level the Gun back onto the aiming posts, you have to be able to hear your crew as well as the fire data coming from the FDC. Those old triple flange earplugs they issued were shit. I always had to leave out my left ear, so I could hear commands. I would hang the round in the tube, drop it, follow my hands along the tube down and away and hoped to get a finger stuck under my K-Pot in my ear to muffle the blast. Sometimes I made it, sometimes I didn't if we were doing multiple round fire missions after the adjust phase. This was all before all Big Army spent millions on these Peltor and Sordin electronic hearing protection devices. VA said I'm mid range tone deaf in my left ear. For me I have to be looking at somebody's face talking to understand what they are saying because it sounds like the adults in Charlie Brown cartoons talking in my left ear "Whaaa wha wha what what whaaaaaa". That was from part time working on the Gun Line, about half the other time I was in Fire Direction Center working up the trigonometry needed to hit targets..and answering radios. They said a hearing aid won't help because of the frequency range lost. But they gave me a white noise machine to help me sleep with the Boeing 737 (throttling up to V1 volume) level tinnitus in my left ear constantly ringing. |
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Good Morning Vietnam - Bob Fliber |
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My tinnitus drowns out much of my hearing in the upper ranges... right where women and children's voices usually reside.
I've spent the last decade saying "Huh?, what? speak up" to my wife and kids. It all made sense when I went and got my hearing tested...lol EEEeeeeeeeeeeee......... If I concentrate, I can pick out 5 or 6 distinct tones in my head 24/7..lol (19Kilo) |
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The only person that I've known in artillery was my great grandpa, field artilley in WW1 France. He had some severe hearing loss.
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Quoted: https://youtu.be/gOPEpsGJyCs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOPEpsGJyCs View Quote |
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My career Army dad was hard of hearing and it used to frustrate me as a kid.
It wasn't until I was older that I learned that he started out his career at Fort Sam Houston in the artillery. When I was little, we lived on base in Fort Carson, Colorado. I woke up every morning at 6AM when that fucking howitzer went off. Then I went back to sleep. |
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Between howitzers, mortars, armored vehicles, helicopters, machine guns, and missiles, eight years as an Infantryman and an Artillery Forward Observer have made it damn near impossible for me to hear people who speak in low voices, behind me, or facing away from me. If you want me to hear what you have to say, you better look me in the eyes and speak clearly.
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No. Other than a touch of tinnitus I wore my earplugs like I was supposed to
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Guy who was in my academy class had 80% hearing loss disability from his time in the army (artillery). Seemed like a pretty significant hindrance in a job where one of the primary responsibilities is verbal communication with the public.
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Ex DAT here 105mm on M60A1 and 152mm on M551 Sheridans. ÷eeeeeeeeeeeeee plus high frequency hearing damage. VA hearing aids help, but women with Covid masks sound like: Hi seeedsfdsd Can I ggderyg gue.
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just play it loud.wmv |
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Dad had a mortar squad. Said they were in front of everyone else when the company had a mad minute. Said he couldn’t hear for a couple weeks afterwards. He’s pretty deaf.
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That's interesting, I can understand all the Vietnam vets and earlier having busted eardrums, because nobody really gave a shit back then about hearing loss. But I assumed they had it figured out by the GWOT days. You learn something new every day.
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I've been an 11B and a 13F. I always felt like the perceived noise from a machine gun was was louder and sharper on the ear, but artillery had a more strongly felt concussion, especially at the higher charges.
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Quoted: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/oDsFnGLC0tk/maxresdefault.jpg (It's actually very quiet inside the turret when the main gun goes off, but outside it's brutal ) View Quote True for M1s. In M60s the TC's head and shoulders were outside the turret and about 2 feet from the 50 cal. |
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We've spent a decent amount of time together.
Have I ever asked you to restate something you've said to me for inability to hear you? |
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