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Posted: 1/9/2018 8:36:39 PM EST
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I don’t give a crap if you want kids or not.
But I do wonder if couples who “will never have kids” regret not having kids later in life. It’s easy to say you don’t want kids when you’re in your 20’s. Anyone willing to admit they missed the boat and regret it? Just curious |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 8:39:29 PM EST
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No. GFY I'll say it again, though..., GFY. |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 8:42:44 PM EST
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Agreed. Meeting people in their 60s-80s that didn't have kids is a humbling experience. Some have outright told me they regret not having them....and I think regret is a polite term to the emotions I saw in them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I agree OP, the idea of ending your bloodline with yourself voluntarily is just bizarre to me. It's unnatural. It's short sighted, and as most "no kids but have the means" folks will admit it's selfish. But hey, it's just not in the hand your dealt for some. You don't want kids, no sweat off my back. I got no ill will towards you. Carry on! Meeting people in their 60s-80s that didn't have kids is a humbling experience. Some have outright told me they regret not having them....and I think regret is a polite term to the emotions I saw in them. I'm not making this my argument for having kids, but perhaps it's a perk of it. Eventually we all get old some day, and our friends, co-workers, acquaintances, etc. will start to die off, or see us less and less as they spend more time travelling or with their kids and grand-kids. Family and being part of a group is important to a lot of people. Without kids, many people may find themselves alone at some later stage of life. Of course, having kids is no guarantee they will be there at that later stage of life (they could die early, or hate your guts and never want to see you, etc.), but it greatly improves the chances of having family to be around in your golden years. |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 8:43:12 PM EST
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Barren/impotent. |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 8:52:40 PM EST
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Meh, don't have kids and never wanted them. No real reason, just never did. It has cost me a few relationships, although it's not like I wasn't completely upfront about it.
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Posted: 1/9/2018 8:57:38 PM EST
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No. I'm quite conservative as is my wife, but we have no interest whatsoever in ever having kids. Fuck that noise. Never wanted it growing up, never had the urge ever in my life to have offspring. |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 9:00:03 PM EST
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I don’t give a crap if you want kids or not. But I do wonder if couples who “will never have kids” regret not having kids later in life. It’s easy to say you don’t want kids when you’re in your 20’s. Anyone willing to admit they missed the boat and regret it? Just curious |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 9:02:16 PM EST
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I want a kid...I just can't find anyone that will let me stick my dick in them  
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Posted: 1/9/2018 9:09:40 PM EST
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I think that one of the more beautiful things about life is that people have all different kinds of reasons for living. Good on you for finding yours. Now, saying that yours is the one, true, right, and only? That's a special kind of ugly. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Agree to disagree I suppose, but I don’t think so. Healthy people should have, and want to have children. It is literally the reason for our existence. People that decide not to are simply selfish. Now, saying that yours is the one, true, right, and only? That's a special kind of ugly. I was thinking more fuck you and your opinion |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 9:17:03 PM EST
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this may only be because of my master race blood, but most of you don't have blood lines worth keeping. from a social perspective, there are enough orphans as it is. instead of having your own subpar white kids, why not adopt?
kids are great only for boring people. if you just sit at home all day and watch tv, kids are more meaningful than that. for people who don't suck at everything, they kill a lot of time with almost no return. i want to see how close i can come to a professional athlete in several sports. i have several long term projects that may work out to revolutionize some industries. staying abreast of various fields of interest - bio, chem, phys, mech eng, mat sci, neuro, quant mech, etc. even if it's a biological obligation, it's still condition dependent. many animals will not breed under duress or under dissatisfactory conditions. america especially is reaching those times in a hurry. the reason it's not a biological imperative is because that's what society is. without which, killing the people around you is a fairly normal thing to do. simply look at dindu culture. we curb impulses to create a society for other advantages - usually for most people, other advantages far outweigh the cost of suppressing biological impulses. even at minimum wage, you have heating and running water and don't have to fight for your life too often. my friends now have kids. i realize now that i made the right decision to skip kids. holy shit did i make the right decisions. the more educated tend to have less kids. while dindus have like 30 of them and think they've accomplished a lot in life because they have kids. hopefully it's a sign that people here are more educated than dindus. |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 9:17:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why not church? Of course not all of them were. You look at an online dating profile and a lot of people will list Christian as their religion even if they don't really believe in it. I dated a few of those too. Usually it's a case that they put in Christian because their parents are/were and they went to church as kids but hadn't been back in years. I made an interesting discovery. Churched women my age were consistently the most emotionally immature, unstable, and unpleasant. They were bratty and spoiled. They were self entitled, self righteous, and self centered. Worse, these behaviors were encouraged. This was true across multiple churches and multiple conservative denominations. The church has lost its collective mind on the proper way to raise children and this is one of the fruits of it. Conversely, the non Christians I dated were uniformly more stable, more sensible, more emotionally healthy, and had more common sense. Spending time with them was relaxing, not trying. They weren't spoiled brats. The Bible says not to be unequally yoked. That is literally the only thing that kept me from giving up on dating women who are regularly in church. I don't like saying it but facts are what they are. Churched women seem to be particularly toxic on average, and that toxicity is cloaked in religious approval and encouraged by poor teaching. I ended up getting lucky. I would not want to be in the position of looking again. I don't know what to say to young Christian men...other than good luck. The pool available to them has issues, and the leaders in the church will dismiss their concerns and needs as unimportant while encouraging some of the worst behaviors in their potential spouses. I have no useful answer to offer for this. |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 9:25:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Agree to disagree I suppose, but I don’t think so. Healthy people should have, and want to have children. It is literally the reason for our existence. People that decide not to are simply selfish. 
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Posted: 1/9/2018 9:27:44 PM EST
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there's nothing i enjoy more than hearing this type of talk from people who end up having liberal kids.
kind of defeats the purpose, no? i've counted more "help my son/daughter is a liberal" threads on this forum than anywhere else i've ever been. i had kids. two sons. they're both conservative, moral, hard-working people. i'm proud of it. but i have no illusions. there was no guarantee they would end up that way. none whatsoever. it was entirely of my own doing and even then it could have just well failed. that's why i don't irrationally hate "kid-free" people the way some here do. because they made a choice - and i respect their right to do it. if you believe that your kids will grow up to emulate all of your ideals or agree with everything you stand for and make all of your sacrifices worth it, then i'm not sure if you even live in the real world. it's a game of luck. you might get lucky like i did. but what if you don't? |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 9:32:42 PM EST
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If people are healthy and successful(and conservative) I sort of think it's a moral imperative to have children. snip Moral Imperative - Based on what? Fucking Kantian categorical imperative bullshit. Why do you want people to get into doing something that they are fundamentally uninterested in pursuing? That is how you make more fucked up people in the world and thus the world worse off. |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 9:34:10 PM EST
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This post made me sad. I’d hug you if I could.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I want a kid...I just can't find anyone that will let me stick my dick in them Willing to kick in a few bucks for a trip for him to Vegas or Reno. |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 9:34:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Agree to disagree I suppose, but I don’t think so. Healthy people should have, and want to have children. It is literally the reason for our existence. People that decide not to are simply selfish. That being said, society can rig the stakes to make it a very shitty proposition for most rationally minded hedonistic personality types. |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 9:37:07 PM EST
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I don't want kids, but a fully admit I am a selfish asshole.
As far as the die alone argument...I work in a hospital and a nursing home. Many people with kids and grand kids die alone too. |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 9:37:24 PM EST
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Their favorite term is crotchfruit, when I hear that I know I'm dealing with an imbecile. |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 9:41:15 PM EST
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Nah, I just look at those with kids & see how drained of life they are. Smile and go on my way. I wonder if a lot of the pressure others put on the child-free to have kids isn't just "misery wanting company?" |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 9:41:23 PM EST
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My sister has kids. They’re annoying as fuck.
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Posted: 1/9/2018 9:42:07 PM EST
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Yup. Fuck 'em all. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Their favorite term is crotchfruit, when I hear that I know I'm dealing with an imbecile. |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 9:45:18 PM EST
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My wife and I are in our mid 30's and the couples we know our age who have no kids by choice tend to be the more irresponsible progressive douches.
I wouldn't trust these grown children to watch my goldfish let alone a kid. The sad part is in five years when they turn 40 they will want a baby and will adopt a minority child from the third world and raise it to be a socialist |
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Posted: 1/9/2018 9:53:52 PM EST
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You prefer “fuck trophy?” Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Their favorite term is crotchfruit, when I hear that I know I'm dealing with an imbecile. "Crotch fruit" sounds like it originates from a spoiled adolescent with sudden online access to his parents computer, and is unable to come to grips with the fact that he's not the center of the universe. |
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Posted: 1/10/2018 12:44:37 AM EST
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It's a sensitive issue, because not everybody can have children.
97% of people want children. We're all wired that way. However, if we can't find the right mate, or we are physically or mentally incapable of raising progeny, then our survival requires that we decide "I don't want crotch fruit..too annoying...too expensive... and anyway...the World is too fucked up, and heading for disaster....t'wood be a crime, to subject a child to that dark, dystopian future...". So, they get Dogs instead. And soon, Robots. |
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Posted: 1/10/2018 12:45:22 AM EST
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Posted: 1/10/2018 12:48:29 AM EST
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While I would never want people to have kids they didn't want or love etc....Yes, I think it's selfish and self centered as all hell not to have children. It is our ONE biological imperative, there is something basically wrong with people unwilling to fulfill their purpose. |
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Posted: 1/10/2018 12:51:12 AM EST
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I in no way intended to insult those who have health issues, emotional problems or traumatic childhoods which deter them from having kids. I certainly have tremendous compassion for people dealing with those challenges. I'm specifically curious as to how healthy conservatives who have the ability to start a family can embrace a "no kids" attitude when it is clearly at odds with moral essence of American Conservatism and Christianity. You can send cheap baby clothes to that stjames guy, I’m shitting the brats out on his porch so they’re his problem to dress. If I don’t have to breast feed, I can get knocked up again that much sooner. |
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Posted: 1/10/2018 12:55:25 AM EST
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At this point I don't believe I want kids. That may change but it's at about a 95%.
I don't know why anyone other than my future spouse would care, but if you're that upset about it, send your wife over and maybe we can work out a deal. |
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Posted: 1/10/2018 1:01:06 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m a good person. I got pregnant like I’m supposed to. Now I need you to send me cash for prenatal vitamins. |
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Posted: 1/10/2018 1:10:00 AM EST
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I have a pretty simple rule in regard to this. If you're not paying any of my bills, your opinion on how I've structured my life is irrelevant.
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Posted: 1/10/2018 1:11:53 AM EST
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If people are healthy and successful(and conservative) I sort of think it's a moral imperative to have children. I usually hear the "I'll never have kids" thing from my crazy hippy cousin who is a Marxist. Strangely I hear it on here often. I sort of thought the "no-kids" mentality was a result of ethno-Marxist brainwashing or immoral urban consumerism(think Sex & the City TV show) |
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Posted: 1/10/2018 1:14:19 AM EST
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The $80 New Chapter bottle? Whole Foods makes insane $ off those |
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Posted: 1/10/2018 1:15:06 AM EST
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Having children or not is a choice made between partners. Judging people based on their choice is ridiculous. That is between them and nobody else’s business.
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Posted: 1/10/2018 1:16:04 AM EST
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I agree OP, the idea of ending your bloodline with yourself voluntarily is just bizarre to me. It's unnatural. It's short sighted, and as most "no kids but have the means" folks will admit it's selfish. But hey, it's just not in the hand your dealt for some. You don't want kids, no sweat off my back. I got no ill will towards you. Carry on! |
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Posted: 1/10/2018 1:32:16 AM EST
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Not impregnating as many women as possible is unnatural and against nature too.
Myob. |
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Posted: 1/10/2018 1:40:49 AM EST
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I would be more likely to adopt than have my own.
As for why others don't... mind your own fucking business. |
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Posted: 1/10/2018 1:55:04 AM EST
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I'm a parent.
I don't agree with you at all. There's lots of people that don't want kids that shouldn't have them |
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Posted: 1/10/2018 1:56:47 AM EST
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lol @ all the 'ending your bloodline' shit. This isn't fucking Westeros, empires won't rise and fall if people choose not to have children.
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Posted: 1/10/2018 2:06:51 AM EST
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May be the most ignorant thing I've seen written in this decade. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If people are healthy and successful(and conservative) I sort of think it's a moral imperative to have children. I usually hear the "I'll never have kids" thing from my crazy hippy cousin who is a Marxist. Strangely I hear it on here often. I sort of thought the "no-kids" mentality was a result of ethno-Marxist brainwashing or immoral urban consumerism(think Sex & the City TV show)
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Posted: 1/10/2018 2:09:25 AM EST
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lol @ all the 'ending your bloodline' shit. This isn't fucking Westeros, empires won't rise and fall if people choose not to have children. Maybe Joe Blow didn't breed like a rabbit and spread his bloodline through all the swing states and Hillary won. Just thinking about it makes the whole idea of a moral imperative to breed a lot more ambiguous. |
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Posted: 1/10/2018 3:15:01 AM EST
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I don't like people and I don't see why I should condemn someone to have to die without asking them if they want to. You don't see babies being all happy in an OB ward when they see the new wonderful world. They sound pretty pissed off and well they should be. If they knew what was coming in the next decades, they'd hate you forever.
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Posted: 1/10/2018 3:52:20 AM EST
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Failing to pass on our way of life to the next generation is cultural suicide. But hey, you had fun so fuck everyone else, right?
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Posted: 1/10/2018 4:05:28 AM EST
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I didn't have kids because my career keeps me away from home, and cannot afford it. SWMBO has 4 adult children from a previous marriage. None of them have meaningful work, but all of them have kids. Son#4 has 3 kids by 3 different women. I have discussed with all of them their responsibilities to their children.
Grandpa kpel308 has helped during emergencies, and makes sure tuition is paid, etc., but the rent and upkeep is all on them. Grandchild #9 is on the way, SWMBO advised me yesterday. The adult children will all receive 2TB hard drives full of movies and bulk packages of condoms for their pasalubong homecoming gifts when I get home in February. I love them all, but if you can't afford them, don't have them. |
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Posted: 1/10/2018 4:07:20 AM EST
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I'm a well off, fiscally and constitutionally conservative, man, that is educated and has been married for a decade. My wife and I have no interest in having children. Thanks to bullshit welfare programs started based on religious ideology, there isn't really a future worth having children for.
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Posted: 1/10/2018 4:51:47 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OP raised a thought-provoking point which was intended for intelligent discussion about our innate desire to mate and ensure the survival of our species for future generations and seems to wonder why that appears to be waning. Obviously you missed that and felt the need to insult him instead... Population Clock In what reality do you think that the survival of our species is in any danger? I'm blunt and have little tolerance for rampant stupidity. |
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Posted: 1/10/2018 5:00:25 AM EST
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Let's fight for our 2A rights, protect the US Constitution, live free or die! So that we can allow Western Civilization to dry up and disappear. Fuck the sacrifices made by the dozen or so modern generations of my ancestors. I AM THE FINAL END PRODUCT--- IT WAS ALL FOR ME!!!!!! I have no obligation to them, or to the God who made it possible. My great grandfather boarded a ship, left Copenhagen, started from nothing, failed at farming in Illinois, failed at farming in Wisconsin, finally succeeded in Minnesota where he built a solid foundation for our family. FUCK HIM!!!!!!!! Oh, and I will be supported in my dotage by the labor of OTHER PEOPLE'S KIDS. I feel no moral compunction about any of this, because I am a modern American. The funniest part about these threads is all the people who act like they are breeding anything but the people who will complete the prophecy that was Idiocracy. Also no sky wizards were involved in you being around to shitpost on GD. Though it is amazing to think that 100 years ago some god decided not to sink great grand dads boat because it was super important you be here to tell everyone how they are doing it wrong. |
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Posted: 1/10/2018 5:08:43 AM EST
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.... Almost no one on this board who can afford a computer couldn't find a way to raise kids responsibly. GD: Sound choice sir. Thank you for your service to western civilization. Lol. So great. |
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Posted: 1/10/2018 5:11:59 AM EST
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Failing to pass on our way of life to the next generation is cultural suicide. But hey, you had fun so fuck everyone else, right? |
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Posted: 1/10/2018 5:40:27 AM EST
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I'm a well off, fiscally and constitutionally conservative, man, that is educated and has been married for a decade. My wife and I have no interest in having children. Thanks to bullshit welfare programs started based on religious ideology, there isn't really a future worth having children for. |
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Posted: 1/10/2018 5:42:32 AM EST
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No one cares. The machine keeps moving. This is what the "I must carry on western civilization by producing cube farm workers who consume and obey" types never get. The funniest part about these threads is all the people who act like they are breeding anything but the people who will complete the prophecy that was Idiocracy. Also no sky wizards were involved in you being around to shitpost on GD. Though it is amazing to think that 100 years ago some god decided not to sink great grand dads boat because it was super important you be here to tell everyone how they are doing it wrong. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Let's fight for our 2A rights, protect the US Constitution, live free or die! So that we can allow Western Civilization to dry up and disappear. Fuck the sacrifices made by the dozen or so modern generations of my ancestors. I AM THE FINAL END PRODUCT--- IT WAS ALL FOR ME!!!!!! I have no obligation to them, or to the God who made it possible. My great grandfather boarded a ship, left Copenhagen, started from nothing, failed at farming in Illinois, failed at farming in Wisconsin, finally succeeded in Minnesota where he built a solid foundation for our family. FUCK HIM!!!!!!!! Oh, and I will be supported in my dotage by the labor of OTHER PEOPLE'S KIDS. I feel no moral compunction about any of this, because I am a modern American. The funniest part about these threads is all the people who act like they are breeding anything but the people who will complete the prophecy that was Idiocracy. Also no sky wizards were involved in you being around to shitpost on GD. Though it is amazing to think that 100 years ago some god decided not to sink great grand dads boat because it was super important you be here to tell everyone how they are doing it wrong. |
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