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Posted: 11/28/2009 8:38:24 PM EDT
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Quoted: Oh by the way, did I mention that MC is Ollie approved... http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/526/ollieandlwrc.jpg I believe the 'different' pattern may be the Colombian 'Patriot' pattern. Looks to me to be a decent pattern too. -K |
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Posted: 11/28/2009 9:05:42 PM EDT
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All this is academic, because the fucking dorks up at PEO Soldier have about as much business designing uniforms as my dog. They don't design anything up there in their little think tank that has any real-world applications. The only shit that they've come up with that actually works was all designed by somebody else. Let's look at their track record so far when it comes to uniforms. BDU- Workable, durable, well-designed uniform, even if a bit dated. Could at least be made to blend into a woodland environment with little effort. Worked as designed for 40 years. Easy to maintain and would not disintegrate after washing. I miss having buttons on my pockets. DCU- Worked like a charm in the desert, comfortable but less durable than BDU. I miss having buttons on my pockets. ACU- Sticks out like a diamond in a pig's ass in EVERY environment except a gravel parking lot or "that one special couch." Service life of six months, and may not even make it that long. The velcro is worthless, and disintegrates with every laundering, becoming a fuzzy, non-working abomination that makes the whole uniform look like it was purchased from a thrift store. The top tab at the neck NEVER stays done up, the crotch blows out, the fabric is not durable at all, the collar is ridiculous, the colors are unbelievably stupid and bleach out unless you use super-duper special laundry detergent approved for use with the ACU. The marketing of this uniform was a whirling maelstrom of bullshit, and we got stuck with a shitty uniform that doesn't do a single thing that it was designed to do except provide a "distinctive appearance" in commercials. I hate, loathe and despise this uniform, and I wish they would get rid of it. Multicam, for all its perceived faults, is ten times better in every way than this "wrinkle resistant" clown suit that the HALO-playing retards at PEO Soldier foisted off on us. I agree with everything you just said. In my last tour of Iraq I took 6 sets of ACUs with me. Every single set had the pants destroyed in six months or less. You couldn't put anything in the cargo pockets. I can still remember when the 82nd started switching to ACUs. Half the division had ACU, half had BDU. 0300 on the drop zone, guess which half you could see 400 meters away!?! One interesting thing I discovered is that the ACUs work much better for concealment when they are filthy. But, just try wearing a slightly dirty uniform anywhere on one of the mega FOBS after you have been out of the wire for 48 hours straight.  Are you saying that ACU or BDU could be detected 400 yards away? http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff166/ar15reloader/Picture020-2.jpg With any amount of moonlight, you could spot squads who were wearing ACUs across the entire DZ. BDUs were not visible past 50 meters. One observation I made, is that BDUs are easier to spot when you are using NVGs. The ACUs were much harder to detect, until they were faded from washing them. |
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Posted: 11/28/2009 9:24:04 PM EDT
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Is this the Rapture scene from one of those "Left Behind" movies? |
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Posted: 11/28/2009 9:24:58 PM EDT
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Is that an xbox360 controller? 
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Posted: 11/28/2009 9:29:35 PM EDT
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yeah, because using an interface device that is familiar to almost soldier to control robots is a crappy idea. 
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Posted: 11/28/2009 9:35:38 PM EDT
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DOD bought 2,300 Playstation 3s IIRC for use with simulators. Might as well use off the shelf that people are already used to. |
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Posted: 11/28/2009 11:12:59 PM EDT
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I bet he PWNS at running the predator drone on MW2.
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Posted: 11/29/2009 6:15:28 AM EDT
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The Mirage pattern looks like it might come close to Multicam in effectiveness
The ATACS pattern needs a touch more green to really be multi region IMHO 
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Posted: 11/29/2009 9:30:23 AM EDT
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The Mirage and ATACS patterns have a lot of potential.
The ATACS pattern is designed as an 'arid' camouflage, though it wouldn't be hard to make it a more universal pattern - or a dedicated green pattern with some color changes. -K |
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Posted: 11/29/2009 9:31:29 AM EDT
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Quoted: Is this the Rapture scene from one of those "Left Behind" movies? Others have made similar comments.  -K |
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Posted: 11/29/2009 9:36:16 AM EDT
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Is there a place where one could find that Mirage pattern?
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Posted: 11/29/2009 9:53:29 AM EDT
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ACU colors suck ass.
I gave the benefit of the doubt but I have never seen where that works. |
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Posted: 11/29/2009 10:15:23 AM EDT
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Quoted: ACU colors suck ass. I gave the benefit of the doubt but I have never seen where that works. There are actually a number of places where it works really well - mainly in the rocky and mountainous areas of Afghanistan - especially when they are dirty. But even Afghanistan shows the failure of the pattern (or how it fits into the 'Universal' concept) because troops can go from rocky mountainous areas (where it works well) to the green valley below (where it sucks) to a brown desert area (where it also sucks, but not quite as bad). The universal idea was great, but the execution was very poor. -K |
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Posted: 11/29/2009 10:34:25 AM EDT
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http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc301/hoosier122/gun%20stuff/wherescamoman.jpg I have no idea how close I am. It just looked like a break in the foliage and shadows. You didn't realize it was a gag, I guess? |
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Posted: 11/29/2009 10:39:42 AM EDT
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Multicam is the best all around camo, but the two variations of MARPAT win over all.
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Posted: 11/29/2009 10:43:15 AM EDT
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As most know, I am NOT a fan of multicam, or any of the other pre-digital creations... The ACU can be fixed with an overall light-brown dye, and an AR-670-1 prohibition on the use of bleach on both the uniform and the boots... (The bleach reg is needed, because certain 'types' have decided that the proper appearance for ACUs is bleached-white) 1. why would most people know of your personal likes/dislikes? 2. what are these "types" you are talking about? I haven't seen bleached ACUS. 1) Unless he is one a committee, they won't. 2) The "types' who bleach ACU. |
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Posted: 11/29/2009 10:50:26 AM EDT
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"that one special couch." 
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Posted: 11/29/2009 11:00:52 AM EDT
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It could be worse:
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Posted: 11/29/2009 2:30:34 PM EDT
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Mirage reminds me of a faded German Desert Flectarn.
And the USAF looks like a faded French Lizard pattern. |
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Posted: 11/29/2009 2:57:17 PM EDT
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Here is a pic from the Multicam test... http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4214/3023808afghanistanafgha.jpg I think I see something square.  |
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Posted: 11/29/2009 3:00:34 PM EDT
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It could be worse: http://www.navytimes.com/xml/news/2009/04/navy_nwu_041309w/041309_navy_nwu_800.JPG http://www.eielson.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/060317-F-0000R-001.jpg Agreed, the ABU is an abortion... Talk about getting something COMPLETELY wrong. |
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Posted: 11/29/2009 3:41:55 PM EDT
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Ahhh the fucking Navy with another great uniform. I might be able to understand a haze grey/ deck grey uniform for guys that work topside, but if I fall in the fucking water, I want to be found, not blend in.
Great decision Admiral!!!! You bunch of fucks! |
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Posted: 11/29/2009 7:39:26 PM EDT
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It could be worse: http://www.navytimes.com/xml/news/2009/04/navy_nwu_041309w/041309_navy_nwu_800.JPG http://www.eielson.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/060317-F-0000R-001.jpg I do royally hate my ABU's and would prefer something that could actually blend into my enviroment if the need ever came up |
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Posted: 11/29/2009 7:43:34 PM EDT
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Quoted: You could get the same effect by feeding the entire squad chili and beer and having them throw up on their BDU's.  LOL.  |
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Posted: 11/30/2009 2:42:49 AM EDT
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These threads come up from time to time and I always enjoy them. I would love to see the pics of the Multi-Cam and UCP-D in une in Asscrackistan. I'm sure the Army will selectively release pics though to make the UCP-D look good and the Multi-Cam look bad. Back when I was a bit more frivolous about spending my money, I acquired a number of ACU's and subjected them to dyeing. The results were interesting, in fact even promising. I will also point out that Canadian CadPat (which is in itself very good) is the same pattern as MarPat, which is also the same pattern of UCP. The difference is in the colors used. I have been saying for a while that the UCP 'pattern' is great, it's just the colors in the pattern that suck. So here I'll post some of the pics I have taken of ACU's that I have dyed along with a number of other patterns I have collected over the years. Below we have Top Row: Regular UCP, UCP with Tan Rit Dye, UCP with Tan and Brown Rit Dye. Middle Row: UCP with Tan and Kelly Green (this uniform recieved several dye jobs and is very similar to the one next to it), UCP with Tan and Dark Green, Multi-Cam. Bottom Row: US Army Woodland - brand new Winter Weight, US 6-Color Desert, and Swiss 'Alpenflage'. THese pics were taken at the end of October in Western NY State. http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii28/Special-K65/Camo/IMG_0497.jpg Same uniforms as above, just spread out and from different angles. http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii28/Special-K65/Camo/IMG_0504.jpg http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii28/Special-K65/Camo/IMG_0505.jpg http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii28/Special-K65/Camo/IMG_0506.jpg The above with leaves scattered over them: http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii28/Special-K65/Camo/IMG_0507.jpg http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii28/Special-K65/Camo/IMG_0508.jpg http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii28/Special-K65/Camo/IMG_0509.jpg The above patterns with a different layout. Here I switched the bottom and middle rows. These are taken with the uniforms on a bed of fallen leaves. http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii28/Special-K65/Camo/IMG_0524.jpg http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii28/Special-K65/Camo/IMG_0532.jpg http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii28/Special-K65/Camo/IMG_0536.jpg As above, with leaves: http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii28/Special-K65/Camo/IMG_0542.jpg http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii28/Special-K65/Camo/IMG_0541.jpg http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii28/Special-K65/Camo/IMG_0545.jpg Different background: http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii28/Special-K65/Camo/IMG_0549.jpg http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii28/Special-K65/Camo/IMG_0550.jpg As above with scattered leaves over the uniforms: http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii28/Special-K65/Camo/IMG_0551.jpg http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii28/Special-K65/Camo/IMG_0552.jpg This is a similar project I did earlier this summer in the June time frame. Things were much greener then. I used some different uniforms for the first photo shoot, and I regret not using all of them also in the second one. Top Row: Faded Hot Weather BDUs', German Flek, US 6 Color Desert. Middle Row: the same UCP's as before, UCP with Tan and Brown, Normal unaltered UCP, and UCP with Tan. Bottom Row: US Night Desert, US OD Green, Swiss 'Alpenflage'. http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii28/Special-K65/Camo/IMG_0037.jpg Same as above, but on my brownish gravel driveway. http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii28/Special-K65/Camo/IMG_0054.jpg Closeup of the ACU's. http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii28/Special-K65/Camo/IMG_0060.jpg Same location as the pics above: http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii28/Special-K65/Camo/IMG_0065.jpg http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii28/Special-K65/Camo/IMG_0064.jpg http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii28/Special-K65/Camo/IMG_0067.jpg For the second set of pics I had not yet dyed some of the ACU's present in the first set, and I hadn't gotten the Multi-Cam yet either. I understand that this is not the best way of showcasing a camo pattern with them being simply laid out on a plain colored background, but I still think the results are interesting. Also, regarding MarPat - which inevitably comes up in any ACU thread, The patern we now know as MarPat wasn't the 'most effective' in their tests either. They originally decided to go with a 'Tiger Stripe' kind of pattern, but they decided to go with the digital uniform for 'aesthetic reasons' - just as the Army did in choosing UCP over the Desert All Over Brush that actually won their competition. In this case I don't mind though, because it's still a kick ass pattern. http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii28/Special-K65/Camo/MarpatStripe.jpg http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii28/Special-K65/Camo/MarpatStripe2.gif ETA: An article regarding the USMC MarPat research that discuses the tiger stripe variation. http://www.tecom.usmc.mil/mcub/utility/background/CammieConsid.htm -K i think you might have misread what they said there. when they say "Although the tiger stripe was found to be more effective than the current pattern, the MARPAT was considered the best of the selection due to its multi-environment flexibility, tactical effectiveness and ability to provide service distinctiveness," the 'current pattern' at the time this was written refers to woodland BDUs |
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Posted: 11/30/2009 3:41:24 AM EDT
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As most know, I am NOT a fan of multicam, or any of the other pre-digital creations... The ACU can be fixed with an overall light-brown dye, and an AR-670-1 prohibition on the use of bleach on both the uniform and the boots... (The bleach reg is needed, because certain 'types' have decided that the proper appearance for ACUs is bleached-white) 1. why would most people know of your personal likes/dislikes? 2. what are these "types" you are talking about? I haven't seen bleached ACUS. Go down to the AG schoolhouse on Jackson and take a look at any BNCOC or ANCOC class.... |
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Posted: 12/6/2009 12:52:54 PM EDT
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I have seen ACU work when in woodland especially when the sun is to your back or there is alot of shadow on you. Other then that when the sun hit's it it looks way too light and greenish blue.
I think ACU or i should call it it's real name "URBAN TRACK' is the best camo ever made for what it was intended to do "blend in with streets,curbs and concrete. I think it's a great urban camo but UCP it's not and will never be. I think Multicam is far more effective in nature but we still need ACU to be able to invade capitals and cities. Asking one camo to blend everywhere is unrealistic. Here is what I would do Green deep woodland = Marpat Open field& UCP= Multicam Pure desert= Desert marpat Urban/rocky/gray woodland/light tan desert =ACU but no! they want to waste our money and people's lives because the army does not want to use Marpat. I have not heard a single complain about Marpat because it was made and issued for it's environment. ACU on the other hand was not issued as an urban camo but rather a do it UCP. if troops were allowed to use it in urban areas only you would not hear a single complaint. http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff166/ar15reloader/2003230352724637144_rs.jpg http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff166/ar15reloader/GD7236481U-8987.jpg http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff166/ar15reloader/af_peril_700_070328.jpg http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff166/ar15reloader/camouflage-keeps-soldiers-hidden.jpg http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff166/ar15reloader/Iraq_Magpul.jpg |
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Posted: 12/6/2009 1:09:04 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What is this "Syria" pattern, which that charts ranks so close to Multi-Cam? http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/syrian-camo.jpg apparently its not actually used by Syria... That supposedly beats UCP in woodland? have you seen UCP in the woods? http://i34.tinypic.com/aka805.jpg Went camping with a buddy in the NC mountains recently. He's retired from the Army recently and brought along some ACUs to wear at night after we set up camp and changed out of all the fleece / underarmor hiking gear. The sumbitch literally glowed in the twilight against the woods. Never had a problem finding him. |
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Posted: 12/6/2009 1:15:39 PM EDT
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yeah, because using an interface device that is familiar to almost soldier to control robots is a crappy idea.
Using a fragile POS is what's a crappy idea. 
That guy drops his little controller one time, even from a slight height, and the batter cover takes an impact... that thing is gonna shatter. Impact on the side is extremely prone to fucking up the bumper buttons as well, necessitating popping it open (which you need a T9 security torx for) and messing with the internals to fix it. 
If you're gonna use a controller in a warzone, they oughtta use the DualShock controllers. You can abuse the SHIT out of those before you break anything. |
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Posted: 12/6/2009 1:23:37 PM EDT
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Why not just go back to Woodland and 6 Color Desert? Because it wasn't until around the second year in Iraq that people were getting more than a pair or two of the desert BDUs, and not until around the third year that people were getting the desert patterned IBA covers, ammo pouches, cold weather gear, rucksacks, etc. What was the point of me wearing desert BDUs when I still had a woodland IBS, and FLC on top of it? During the first year in Iraq, a lot of units were still running around the desert in woodland BDUs because the one or two pairs of DCUs were falling apart from wearing them daily. And even wearing them during the initial invasion was pointless for most since there was enough fear of chemical weapons that most were wearing their JSLSS, or older MOPP suits, most of which were woodland. Marines have their shit on a ship, with them. And they know what area they are going to be in. The Army has to respond from it's home bases most of the time. And when I was in the 101st we had most of our gear packed up during our black cycle (when we were the on call brigade), so we'd have to go with whatever we had packed, and what was in our rucks. It would have required everyone be issued 2 complete sets of uniforms. I suppose just allow an extra pallet per company for the extra uniforms, and tell people which uniforms to put on, and what color spare to put in their ruck when alerted. It probably came to cost, which is bullshit, but probably the reason. It would have cost a lot more to have enough uniforms of both colors, to include cold weather outerwear and chemical protective gear, than to come up with a single uniform that sort of works ok in some areas. Perfect if the world were covered in sagebrush. |
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Posted: 12/6/2009 1:23:59 PM EDT
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I think the Army ranking of camo is crap.
There are so many variables when it comes to woodland deep jungle, light open field, desert wood mix. I think Multicam would be my choice and the top performer in woodland. Urban Desert Marpat is not a good urban camo unless you are in villages in Iraq. You would not blend in say in new york, Moscow or any other non desert city. Also in desert, desert marpat is way better then then what the brits use. Syrian camo is a bunch of crap. The Army has lost it's mind when it comes to camo, and why is Desert Over Brush not been tested? It won the Army camo trials yes it even outperformed Multicam. |
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Posted: 12/6/2009 1:34:07 PM EDT
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Why not just go back to Woodland and 6 Color Desert? Because it wasn't until around the second year in Iraq that people were getting more than a pair or two of the desert BDUs, and not until around the third year that people were getting the desert patterned IBA covers, ammo pouches, cold weather gear, rucksacks, etc. What was the point of me wearing desert BDUs when I still had a woodland IBS, and FLC on top of it? During the first year in Iraq, a lot of units were still running around the desert in woodland BDUs because the one or two pairs of DCUs were falling apart from wearing them daily. And even wearing them during the initial invasion was pointless for most since there was enough fear of chemical weapons that most were wearing their JSLSS, or older MOPP suits, most of which were woodland. Marines have their shit on a ship, with them. And they know what area they are going to be in. The Army has to respond from it's home bases most of the time. And when I was in the 101st we had most of our gear packed up during our black cycle (when we were the on call brigade), so we'd have to go with whatever we had packed, and what was in our rucks. It would have required everyone be issued 2 complete sets of uniforms. I suppose just allow an extra pallet per company for the extra uniforms, and tell people which uniforms to put on, and what color spare to put in their ruck when alerted. It probably came to cost, which is bullshit, but probably the reason. It would have cost a lot more to have enough uniforms of both colors, to include cold weather outerwear and chemical protective gear, than to come up with a single uniform that sort of works ok in some areas. Perfect if the world were covered in sagebrush. ACU does work in most places OK but Ok can get you killed. If your camo is ok and their camo blends perfect they have the advantage. ACU was chosen due to the fact it's the top NV performer and works very well in Urban. Ok in desert and woodland has enough cover to hide in. Problem is in Iraq unless you are in the city ACU sticks out. I am with yoou with the 2 uniforms the marines did it right A better Idea is to have a dye kit that allows you to dye ACU more brown more green or what ever the mission calls for. I used a brown dye and made my ACU blend in with woodland 100 times better then the normal issue it took 5 minutes and a few hours to dry. |
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Posted: 12/6/2009 2:31:35 PM EDT
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from all the pictures I have seen ACU blends in well in Afganistan, does anyone have pictures of what it looks like out there? I mean where ACU sticks out, I heard it's really green.
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Posted: 12/6/2009 3:46:47 PM EDT
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This new Afghani digi cammo seems servicable:
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Posted: 12/6/2009 3:51:08 PM EDT
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Quoted: What the heck, more Multicam porn! Anything to drive away the sight of that Digital Dogshit uniform.  |
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Posted: 12/6/2009 3:58:31 PM EDT
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Ahhh the fucking Navy with another great uniform. I might be able to understand a haze grey/ deck grey uniform for guys that work topside, but if I fall in the fucking water, I want to be found, not blend in. Great decision Admiral!!!! You bunch of fucks! You might want to check your fire, and actually educate yourself. The NWU was designed and implemented by Master Chief Petty Officers. MCPON Carroll is now Mr. Carroll and works on Task Force Uniform to this day. Secondly, when you fall into the water the only thing that anyone will see is your head and your waving arms. Third, most ships while underway still wear blue coveralls, which doesn't exactly standout in the ocean. |
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Posted: 12/6/2009 4:01:25 PM EDT
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Now THAT I like! Put me in for one.
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Posted: 12/6/2009 4:03:59 PM EDT
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As someone who has spent a fair amount of time in the woods hunting deer, a nice tan with some variation in it with a little dark here and there would be great. Don't know how many deer were just 25 yards in front of me and never saw them till they moved.
A little lighter colored flecktarn seems workable, or multicam. But I think DEER is the way to go, just no white butts! |
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Posted: 12/6/2009 4:16:54 PM EDT
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This new Afghani digi cammo seems servicable: http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7488/091205f8132h004.jpg http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/7479/091205f8132h001.jpg http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/6343/091205f8132h002.jpg LOL just where did the Afghanis get the $$$ for a unique uniform? You'd think we'd just give some of the them old Woodland BDUs we have on hand? |
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Posted: 12/6/2009 4:28:07 PM EDT
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I'm sure you all will debate the merits of the effectiveness or lack of for the ACU and the other ones but I just don't like it, just one girls opinion.
To me, the ACU is ugly and looks unprofessional. 
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Posted: 12/6/2009 4:39:46 PM EDT
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I'm sure you all will debate the merits of the effectiveness or lack of for the ACU and the other ones but I just don't like it, just one girls opinion. To me, the ACU is ugly and looks unprofessional. http://perfumeposse.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/mr-yuck.thumbnail.gif And there you have it, the FINAL WORD. A uniform is supposed to impress the ladies, and ACU turns them off. That should be all the criteria you need for dumping it. Quoted:
This new Afghani digi cammo seems servicable: http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7488/091205f8132h004.jpg http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/7479/091205f8132h001.jpg http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/6343/091205f8132h002.jpg Afghan, not Afghani. An Afghan is a person from Afghanistan, the Afghani is their currency. |
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Posted: 12/6/2009 4:51:51 PM EDT
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I'm sure you all will debate the merits of the effectiveness or lack of for the ACU and the other ones but I just don't like it, just one girls opinion. To me, the ACU is ugly and looks unprofessional. http://perfumeposse.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/mr-yuck.thumbnail.gif And there you have it, the FINAL WORD. A uniform is supposed to impress the ladies, and ACU turns them off. That should be all the criteria you need for dumping it. Quoted:
This new Afghani digi cammo seems servicable: http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7488/091205f8132h004.jpg http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/7479/091205f8132h001.jpg http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/6343/091205f8132h002.jpg Afghan, not Afghani. An Afghan is a person from Afghanistan, the Afghani is their currency. I thought an Afghan was a type of blanket.
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Posted: 12/6/2009 4:54:39 PM EDT
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Afghan, not Afghani. An Afghan is a person from Afghanistan, the Afghani is their currency. I thought an Afghan was a type of blanket. That too.
Seriously though, "Afghani" and "Afghanistani" = Geraldo speak. Don't do it.
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Posted: 12/6/2009 4:57:13 PM EDT
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I'm sure you all will debate the merits of the effectiveness or lack of for the ACU and the other ones but I just don't like it, just one girls opinion. To me, the ACU is ugly and looks unprofessional. http://perfumeposse.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/mr-yuck.thumbnail.gif And there you have it, the FINAL WORD. A uniform is supposed to impress the ladies, and ACU turns them off. That should be all the criteria you need for dumping it. Quoted:
This new Afghani digi cammo seems servicable: http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7488/091205f8132h004.jpg http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/7479/091205f8132h001.jpg http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/6343/091205f8132h002.jpg Afghan, not Afghani. An Afghan is a person from Afghanistan, the Afghani is their currency. I thought an Afghan was a type of blanket.
I thought it was a breed of dog.
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Posted: 12/6/2009 4:58:13 PM EDT
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Afghan, not Afghani. An Afghan is a person from Afghanistan, the Afghani is their currency. I thought an Afghan was a type of blanket. That too.
Seriously though, "Afghani" and "Afghanistani" = Geraldo speak. Don't do it. Both Afghani and Afghan work for "person from Afghanistan." The "i" just means "of." Just like in English an person from Iran is called "Iranian," but in farsi is called an "Irani." |
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Posted: 12/6/2009 5:18:25 PM EDT
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Off topic, but why does this guy have an M145 MGO on his M4?
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Posted: 12/6/2009 5:37:58 PM EDT
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airsoft
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Posted: 12/6/2009 5:41:09 PM EDT
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Off topic, but why does this guy have an M145 MGO on his M4? http://www.scaar.at/airsoft/multicam010.jpg It doesn't look like a M-4 to me. 
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Posted: 12/7/2009 3:10:26 AM EDT
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Also, I wanted to add a comment about Mirage. My buddy from ranger batt was saying that he got to test mirage and it was the best camo pattern he'd used up to that point. I think he said they even used it on a deployment but had to give the uniforms back.
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Posted: 12/7/2009 3:41:35 AM EDT
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That's Hyperstealth's Spec4ce Forest pattern.
http://www.hyperstealth.com/spec4ce/prototype/page2.html Quoted:
This new Afghani digi cammo seems servicable: http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7488/091205f8132h004.jpg http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/7479/091205f8132h001.jpg http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/6343/091205f8132h002.jpg |
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