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Posted: 11/23/2020 10:42:27 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He is exclusively here to troll EVERY thread he gets involved in. And should have caught a ban a long time ago. This thread (unsurprisingly) has attracted them all. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 10:42:52 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tulsi is a veteran, and I know at one point that was the most important thing to BRCC. As for the rest, I need to do some reading. Does anyone have a link to the donations, or a screenshot? FEC website search is easy. You can do it by name: https://www.fec.gov/data/receipts/individual-contributions/?two_year_transaction_period=2020&min_date=01%2F01%2F2019&max_date=12%2F31%2F2020 There are multiple donations by an Evan Hafer listed. Two do have BRCC listed as the employer. The most recent two. One to Tulsi, the other to McKeon for Nevada(a republican). There are 5 others listed: A $500 donation to Obama for America(employer listed as Department of Defense) 4 donations($100 each) to John McCain 2008 Inc (employer listed as US Army) ETA - this was yesterday. I just did another search(in case my memory sucks) and now the only one I see under Hafer's name is the one for Tulsi Aloha. Which brings up the question. Can these contributions be scrubbed from the FEC website, and is Hafer doing so? He's been confronted quite a bit about the donations in the past 24 hours. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 10:43:45 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The "purity spiral" is something that is generally associated with the progressive left in the US...and the root of the saying that "the left will eat itself." I love how easily some freedom-loving folks will spin that mirror around on themselves. Hafer’s given way more money and support to leftist causes than anyone should be comfortable with. It’s not left-leaning libertarian behavior he’s supporting. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 10:43:54 AM EST
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Canceled yesterday.
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Posted: 11/23/2020 10:44:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't see an issue with their position on Rittenhouse or the The Blaze. What I take umbrage with is Hafer's donations to ActBlue, Gabbard, and Obama, who are all anti-2A orgs/individuals. If BRCC's goal was to support Vets regardless of political affiliation and divorced of traditionally right/left issues, they should have called themselves Vet Lives Matter CC or something blatantly related to military and Vet causes. Instead Hafer poached an icon of Conservative, 2A Pro-Gun advocacy, the Black Rifle, to enrich himself and his friends. I would like to hear his reasoning as to why he donated to blatant anti-2A individuals and causes. I do take a bit of an issue with their position on Rittenhouse and the Blaze. They threw some support to a jailed Marine claiming self defense. The CEO liked some tweets on Twitter shitting on Kyle, a civilian. Plus they did initially withdraw ad spending from the Blaze because of the leftwing tantrum. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 10:44:38 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm sorry, but if you bought a product solely based on your perception of a company, you're a fool and deserve all of the anguish you now feel. First off, Evan Hafer has done dozens (if not hundreds) of interviews where he has been open and up front about his political beliefs. He's a Libertarian. And the heart of libertarianism is to maximize autonomy and political freedom, emphasizing free association, freedom of choice, individualism and voluntary association. In other words, being "liberal" is a cornerstone. Hafer is on the record of supporting gay rights, legalization of drugs, and host of other issues that much of GD calls "communist." Second, you bought a brand. You are literally no different than the saps that buy Lululemon, Nike, Apple, or A&F. You intentionally didnt do any research into the company, nor any of its ownership. Now you cant handle the emotions that they are "communist" Cop out IMO. "real" libertarians would never support the criminalization of property, punitive taxation of property or any attempt to disarm the populace. I am nominally libertarian and support gay rights, drug decriminalization and think you should be able to buy a machine gun over the counter (or make one in your garage) sans govt permission. I also support Kyle. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 10:44:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've updated the OP with more details. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If you require that your allies views be identical to your own, pretty soon you’ll be standing all by yourself. Their views are antithetical to mine. Gunowners are pretty much on our own anyway at this point. Tulsi is a veteran, and I know at one point that was the most important thing to BRCC. As for the rest, I need to do some reading. Does anyone have a link to the donations, or a screenshot? I've updated the OP with more details. Okay, so he donated to McCain also? So far I’m seeing some things that are disappointing, and need to be brought up, but I’m not seeing anything worthy of outrage, and certainly nothing worthy of calling him an enemy. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 10:45:50 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: All sheep. No individual thought. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The "purity spiral" is something that is generally associated with the progressive left in the US...and the root of the saying that "the left will eat itself." I love how easily some freedom-loving folks will spin that mirror around on themselves. All sheep. No individual thought. LOL Tell us.....how often is there a concensus on arfcom about anything...ever....anywhere? Anytime there is, it is taken as nearly gospel. Sheep? Ha. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 10:47:09 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: and certainly nothing worthy of calling him an enemy. So donating to a gun grabber while saying you're pro 2A doesn't move your meter? |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 10:49:11 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The "purity spiral" is something that is generally associated with the progressive left in the US...and the root of the saying that "the left will eat itself." I love how easily some freedom-loving folks will spin that mirror around on themselves. You know how I know you haven't read beyond the first page of this thread? |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 10:49:34 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Okay, so he donated to McCain also? So far I’m seeing some things that are disappointing, and need to be brought up, but I’m not seeing anything worthy of outrage, and certainly nothing worthy of calling him an enemy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If you require that your allies views be identical to your own, pretty soon you’ll be standing all by yourself. Their views are antithetical to mine. Gunowners are pretty much on our own anyway at this point. Tulsi is a veteran, and I know at one point that was the most important thing to BRCC. As for the rest, I need to do some reading. Does anyone have a link to the donations, or a screenshot? I've updated the OP with more details. Okay, so he donated to McCain also? So far I’m seeing some things that are disappointing, and need to be brought up, but I’m not seeing anything worthy of outrage, and certainly nothing worthy of calling him an enemy. Remember McCain was running against Obama in 2008. I don’t have a problem with donations to his presidential campaign. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 10:49:49 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you require that your allies views be identical to your own, pretty soon you'll be standing all by yourself. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 10:51:44 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So donating to a gun grabber while saying you're pro 2A doesn't move your meter? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: and certainly nothing worthy of calling him an enemy. So donating to a gun grabber while saying you're pro 2A doesn't move your meter? You’re ignoring the first part of the post you quoted? So far I’m seeing some things that are disappointing, and need to be brought up Like I said, being a veteran is of huge importance to some of those guys, so while I don’t sympathize with supporting her, I can understand why he may have done it. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 10:52:57 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This isn't "Evan likes beans in his chili fuck him and I hope he goes bankrupt.". The guy is profiting off of the image of being pro 2nd amendment while directly funding politicians that would turn is into felons if they had their way. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 10:53:59 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As someone stated way earlier in this thread things are not 0 or 100, black or white, etc. The purity test being used here is just about impossible for anyone (or any company) to pass. So after we are done trying to cancel or kill off any business or people who were right leaning at all, what will we be left with? Nothing but the liberal mega companies... BRCC dies. They made liberals angry and did some good for the cause. But hey we destroyed them and now I am free to buy from openly left leaning companies because at least they are transparent. I completely understand being upset, but I would rather attempt to reroute a wayward ship than fire the cannon ball that sinks it. If our goal is to win the culture war, we need to play the long game and strengthen our side, not destroy our ranks. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: You'll be homeless in the street if you boycotted every company who was and/or donated to liberal causes. The difference here is when one talks out of both sides of their mouth. Yes, which is why the whole cancel culture is way overboard on every level. As a society we are making choices based on political leanings and rule of mob. As someone stated way earlier in this thread things are not 0 or 100, black or white, etc. The purity test being used here is just about impossible for anyone (or any company) to pass. So after we are done trying to cancel or kill off any business or people who were right leaning at all, what will we be left with? Nothing but the liberal mega companies... BRCC dies. They made liberals angry and did some good for the cause. But hey we destroyed them and now I am free to buy from openly left leaning companies because at least they are transparent. I completely understand being upset, but I would rather attempt to reroute a wayward ship than fire the cannon ball that sinks it. If our goal is to win the culture war, we need to play the long game and strengthen our side, not destroy our ranks. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 10:54:18 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Okay, so he donated to McCain also? So far I’m seeing some things that are disappointing, and need to be brought up, but I’m not seeing anything worthy of outrage, and certainly nothing worthy of calling him an enemy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If you require that your allies views be identical to your own, pretty soon you’ll be standing all by yourself. Their views are antithetical to mine. Gunowners are pretty much on our own anyway at this point. Tulsi is a veteran, and I know at one point that was the most important thing to BRCC. As for the rest, I need to do some reading. Does anyone have a link to the donations, or a screenshot? I've updated the OP with more details. Okay, so he donated to McCain also? So far I’m seeing some things that are disappointing, and need to be brought up, but I’m not seeing anything worthy of outrage, and certainly nothing worthy of calling him an enemy. He donated to Obama. Appeared with rabid Never Trumper David Frum in a Trump bashing podcast. On a Joe Rogan podcast voiced his support for gun control. Liked these tweets about Kyle.  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 10:57:03 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your being vocal with your wallet is actually more cancelling that being vocal with your mouth. Cancelling is an attempt to make another person or company do as you would like or not 'do' anymore because of your actions. This thread is being used to educate other of like mind and attempt to have them come to the same conclusions. Pink Pussy hats scream and tweet. GD discusses the finer points of logos and donations while switching coffee brands. Potato / Potato Canceling someone is throwing them out of social or professional circles, that is the official definition. No one here is asking for the CEO or company to be excluded from any social groups or professional associations. Can Benchmade still sell at gun shows, and advertise at industry events? You have no clue what you're talking about. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 10:57:27 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I do take a bit of an issue with their position on Rittenhouse and the Blaze. They threw some support to a jailed Marine claiming self defense. The CEO liked some tweets on Twitter shitting on Kyle, a civilian. Plus they did initially withdraw ad spending from the Blaze because of the leftwing tantrum. How can you take issue with Kyle and blaze. They said they don’t sponsor Kyle and they didn’t appreciate them posting the picture and discount below it implying they were giving support to Kyle. They gave money to the marine because he was a vet and vets are what they’re all about. You are super upset about some really small stuff. It’s actually impressive. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 10:58:48 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Okay, so he donated to McCain also? So far I’m seeing some things that are disappointing, and need to be brought up, but I’m not seeing anything worthy of outrage, and certainly nothing worthy of calling him an enemy. Find me something BRCC has done that shows support for citizens who aren't vets to own and use ARs for their intended purpose. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 10:58:50 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Remember McCain was running against Obama in 2008. I don’t have a problem with donations to his presidential campaign. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If you require that your allies views be identical to your own, pretty soon you’ll be standing all by yourself. Their views are antithetical to mine. Gunowners are pretty much on our own anyway at this point. Tulsi is a veteran, and I know at one point that was the most important thing to BRCC. As for the rest, I need to do some reading. Does anyone have a link to the donations, or a screenshot? I've updated the OP with more details. Okay, so he donated to McCain also? So far I’m seeing some things that are disappointing, and need to be brought up, but I’m not seeing anything worthy of outrage, and certainly nothing worthy of calling him an enemy. Remember McCain was running against Obama in 2008. I don’t have a problem with donations to his presidential campaign. Are there no dates on the donations? I’m just speculating here, but maybe he donated to McCain in 2008, and then in 2012 he donated to Obama because Romney had a history of being terrible, and an anti gunner. Then he donated to Tulsi simply because she’s a veteran. If it happened like that I hardly see anything nefarious about it. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 11:00:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This isn't "Evan likes beans in his chili fuck him and I hope he goes bankrupt.". The guy is profiting off of the image of being pro 2nd amendment while directly funding politicians that would turn is into felons if they had their way. I mean BRCC has been a sponsor at matches I’ve been to and seen posted.... |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 11:00:22 AM EST
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Wait? A lifestyle brand, vet owned, tacticool appeal company with inked up, bearded dudes and scantily cladded thots acting like a douchebag?
Say it ain't so! |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 11:01:02 AM EST
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A big boo hoo for Evan.
Evan pretty much let his monkey Mat Best (his exec vice president) off his leash and allowed him to make videos to promote the veteran, gun loving, conservative, "fuck yea - 'Merica" themes to pump marketing associated with the brand. Wonder how much of the lifestyle for Evan and Mat will be effected by the fallout of Evan's double speak/play both sides. Wonder how many of those vets that he employs will be looking at losing their jobs based on Evan's faux pas? The donations are bad enough to some of the candidates named, for a company who puts on a conservative mask, but the donations to ActBlue are a big fucking flag to me since you don't know where those funds went to. ActBlue is a way to bring dark money into politics. So reap it Evan, get Mat to make a new video firing a SAW into a JURA Z8 Automatic Coffee Machine until the belt runs out, because that is what you have done to your brand. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 11:01:17 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Okay, so he donated to McCain also? So far I’m seeing some things that are disappointing, and need to be brought up, but I’m not seeing anything worthy of outrage, and certainly nothing worthy of calling him an enemy. 
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Posted: 11/23/2020 11:01:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He donated to Obama. Appeared with rabid Never Trumper David Frum in a Trump bashing podcast. On a Joe Rogan podcast voiced his support for gun control. Liked these tweets about Kyle. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/496445/brcc_jpg-1697269_jpeg-1697982.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If you require that your allies views be identical to your own, pretty soon you’ll be standing all by yourself. Their views are antithetical to mine. Gunowners are pretty much on our own anyway at this point. Tulsi is a veteran, and I know at one point that was the most important thing to BRCC. As for the rest, I need to do some reading. Does anyone have a link to the donations, or a screenshot? I've updated the OP with more details. Okay, so he donated to McCain also? So far I’m seeing some things that are disappointing, and need to be brought up, but I’m not seeing anything worthy of outrage, and certainly nothing worthy of calling him an enemy. He donated to Obama. Appeared with rabid Never Trumper David Frum in a Trump bashing podcast. On a Joe Rogan podcast voiced his support for gun control. Liked these tweets about Kyle. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/496445/brcc_jpg-1697269_jpeg-1697982.JPG Do you have a link to where he supports gun control? |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 11:02:33 AM EST
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The new info in OP has swayed me. Fbrcc. Ill not support those who support my enemy.
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Posted: 11/23/2020 11:03:32 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How can you take issue with Kyle and blaze. They said they don’t sponsor Kyle and they didn’t appreciate them posting the picture and discount below it implying they were giving support to Kyle. They gave money to the marine because he was a vet and vets are what they’re all about. You are super upset about some really small stuff. It’s actually impressive. It takes 2 seconds to look at their coffee lineup to see that isn't true. They pander to the gun/conservative community hard, which isn't just vets... The Kyle stuff is meh to me. I never drank their coffee, overpriced, hipster shit IMO  But, if their owner donated to anti 2a people/companies while getting rich off the 2a community then that that is a different story. And they'll deserve what they get.
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Posted: 11/23/2020 11:03:46 AM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The "purity spiral" is something that is generally associated with the progressive left in the US...and the root of the saying that "the left will eat itself." I love how easily some freedom-loving folks will spin that mirror around on themselves. Only by you. The "purity spiral" is usually found in extremist organizations and affiliations. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 11:05:18 AM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree. I voted for Cruz in the 2016 primary expressly because of his 2A views. That did Jack shit for my ultimate choice for president that year. The point I'm making is we have choices. I don't expect a company to hold all of my opinions... If the ceo came out as a hardcore pro choice person I wouldn't really care even though it's the opposite of what I believe. But in this case, it's supposedly a 2A company that has made their fortune as a big pro 2A company making videos making fun of leftists and then out of the side of their face theyre supporting Zero, Tulsa, and making contributions to ActBlue with the money their making off me. Thats bullshit by every stretch of the imagination and not okay. I don't think it's hypocritical at all for someone to cancel them and also support Trump, despite him making dem contributions in the past. It's an apples to orange comparison, especially when you consider Trumps contributions were very likely business related while BRCCs contributions in no stretch of the imagination would be considered business related... It was flat out support for the enemy. But again, in one situation we have many options to find the best that fits out personal positions and in the other situation we have to make the best choice of the two options, those are two very different situations. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You're trying to make things fit. We only have 2 political candidates to choose from because people believe your logic. There is a long road of actions and choices that lead to those two candidates. Politicians can be primaried out or third party voted out. We can do better, but the people rarely choose to do so. I am in no way defending Evan H's actions and I am disappointed. I am simply pointing out the hypocrisy here and advocating for trying to bring more people to our side rather than lighting the pitchforks for every indiscretion. I agree. I voted for Cruz in the 2016 primary expressly because of his 2A views. That did Jack shit for my ultimate choice for president that year. The point I'm making is we have choices. I don't expect a company to hold all of my opinions... If the ceo came out as a hardcore pro choice person I wouldn't really care even though it's the opposite of what I believe. But in this case, it's supposedly a 2A company that has made their fortune as a big pro 2A company making videos making fun of leftists and then out of the side of their face theyre supporting Zero, Tulsa, and making contributions to ActBlue with the money their making off me. Thats bullshit by every stretch of the imagination and not okay. I don't think it's hypocritical at all for someone to cancel them and also support Trump, despite him making dem contributions in the past. It's an apples to orange comparison, especially when you consider Trumps contributions were very likely business related while BRCCs contributions in no stretch of the imagination would be considered business related... It was flat out support for the enemy. But again, in one situation we have many options to find the best that fits out personal positions and in the other situation we have to make the best choice of the two options, those are two very different situations. We don't disagree, but I would like companies like BRCC to get fully red pilled. I want as many allies as possible. For me, I am getting burned out from all the "outrage" I am supposed to have all the time. BRCC (or at least Evan) fucked up, but I would give them the opportunity to make it right. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 11:05:29 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not surprised you would defend folks that actively work to undermine core American liberties. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm sorry, but if you bought a product solely based on your perception of a company, you're a fool and deserve all of the anguish you now feel. First off, Evan Hafer has done dozens (if not hundreds) of interviews where he has been open and up front about his political beliefs. He's a Libertarian. And the heart of libertarianism is to maximize autonomy and political freedom, emphasizing free association, freedom of choice, individualism and voluntary association. In other words, being "liberal" is a cornerstone. Hafer is on the record of supporting gay rights, legalization of drugs, and host of other issues that much of GD calls "communist." Second, you bought a brand. You are literally no different than the saps that buy Lululemon, Nike, Apple, or A&F. You intentionally didnt do any research into the company, nor any of its ownership. Now you cant handle the emotions that they are "communist" Not surprised you would defend folks that actively work to undermine core American liberties. Lol, please tell me who is not? Everyone believes liberties have limits. Everyone supports restrictions of some kind. Everyone defends the ones they think are in "their side." You're no different. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 11:06:00 AM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you have a link to where he supports gun control? If you donate to democrats you support gun control. If you own a company called "black rifle coffee company" which trades on the opposite of gun control why make that donation. This is more troubling to me than a poorly worded weekend press release. Same with benchmade, the stunt was compounded by the donations to people who want to take rights away. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 11:07:05 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How can you take issue with Kyle and blaze. They said they don’t sponsor Kyle and they didn’t appreciate them posting the picture and discount below it implying they were giving support to Kyle. They gave money to the marine because he was a vet and vets are what they’re all about. You are super upset about some really small stuff. It’s actually impressive. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I do take a bit of an issue with their position on Rittenhouse and the Blaze. They threw some support to a jailed Marine claiming self defense. The CEO liked some tweets on Twitter shitting on Kyle, a civilian. Plus they did initially withdraw ad spending from the Blaze because of the leftwing tantrum. How can you take issue with Kyle and blaze. They said they don’t sponsor Kyle and they didn’t appreciate them posting the picture and discount below it implying they were giving support to Kyle. They gave money to the marine because he was a vet and vets are what they’re all about. You are super upset about some really small stuff. It’s actually impressive. I said I took some issue with BRCC over their stance on Kyle and Blaze. BRCC tried to claim they don't do legal advocacy. Well they do...for military guys. They were dishonest about it. Then because of the CEOs apparent dislike of Kyle and the left's hissy fit, they initially withdrew their ad spending on the Blaze podcast. It was only after the even bigger backlash from the right hit that they backtracked on the ad spend. Is it their right to do all that? Certainly. Am I allowed to say it's weak and shitty? Yup. Those things are just part of the bigger picture that makes me say fuck them. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 11:08:07 AM EST
[#33]
I swear this place is worse than a bunch of boozed up women in a bridge club regarding gossip and hearsay.
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Posted: 11/23/2020 11:08:53 AM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It takes 2 seconds to look at their coffee lineup to see that isn't true. They pander to the gun/conservative community hard, which isn't just vets... The Kyle stuff is meh to me. I never drank their coffee, overpriced, hipster shit IMO But, if their owner donated to anti 2a people/companies while getting rich off the 2a community then that that is a different story. And they'll deserve what they get.Vets are who their giving jobs to and money. So when people asked why they would give financial support to a vet and not Kyle. Well Kyle isn’t a vet is a big glaring difference. I don’t disagree that obviously they’re entire thing is guns and vets. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 11:09:07 AM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryHoly shit are those real? |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 11:10:55 AM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Was a general term. Considering the language used by the people taking up for brrc ( not you, you've always been very civil) at the beginning, i dont think the term is out of bounds. If the shoe fits, sort of thing. We are all assholes. It is a matter of degree and frequency.  |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 11:10:59 AM EST
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The fact that their Canadian VP is obviously in cahoots with Hilary tells me everything I need to know about these BRCC nitwits. They aren't our friend.
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Posted: 11/23/2020 11:11:31 AM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you donate to democrats you support gun control. If you own a company called "black rifle coffee company" which trades on the opposite of gun control why make that donation. This is more troubling to me than a poorly worded weekend press release. Same with benchmade, the stunt was compounded by the donations to people who want to take rights away. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Do you have a link to where he supports gun control? If you donate to democrats you support gun control. If you own a company called "black rifle coffee company" which trades on the opposite of gun control why make that donation. This is more troubling to me than a poorly worded weekend press release. Same with benchmade, the stunt was compounded by the donations to people who want to take rights away. So because one person at the top possibly transgressed we should burn the whole company, and everyone with it? You know there are possibilities between worshipping something and going scorched earth on it? |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 11:11:34 AM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Holy shit are those real? Quote HistoryQuoted: Holy shit are those real? The thin blue line is. Dunno about the racist one. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 11:11:39 AM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Are there no dates on the donations? I’m just speculating here, but maybe he donated to McCain in 2008, and then in 2012 he donated to Obama because Romney had a history of being terrible, and an anti gunner. Then he donated to Tulsi simply because she’s a veteran. If it happened like that I hardly see anything nefarious about it. Thought it was 2008 for McCain from what was posted here. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 11:12:03 AM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I said I took some issue with BRCC over their stance on Kyle and Blaze. BRCC tried to claim they don't do legal advocacy. Well they do...for military guys. They were dishonest about it. Then because of the CEOs apparent dislike of Kyle and the left's hissy fit, they initially withdrew their ad spending on the Blaze podcast. It was only after the even bigger backlash from the right hit that they backtracked on the ad spend. Is it their right to do all that? Certainly. Am I allowed to say it's weak and shitty? Yup. Those things are just part of the bigger picture that makes me say fuck them. Oh man that’s some really atrocious stuff. No wonder your jimmies are so ruffled. Someone doesn’t like trump? Someone told blaze to not insinuate Kyle sponsorship. I mean if that gets you to outrage level I can only imagine you having to drive in traffic. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 11:13:17 AM EST
[#42]
Fables of Aesop - The Bat, Birds, and The Beasts
Moral: A Bat could not choose sides in a potential war. When peace came, neither side would accept him. A great conflict was about to come off between the Birds and the Beasts. When the two armies were collected together the Bat hesitated which to join. The Birds that passed his perch said: “Come with us”; but he said: “I am a Beast.” Later on, some Beasts who were passing underneath him looked up and said: “Come with us”; but he said: “I am a Bird.” Luckily at the last moment peace was made, and no battle took place, so the Bat came to the Birds and wished to join in the rejoicings, but they all turned against him and he had to fly away. He then went to the Beasts, but soon had to beat a retreat, or else they would have torn him to pieces. “Ah,” said the Bat, “I see now, “He that is neither one thing nor the other has no friends.” |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 11:15:15 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Are there no dates on the donations? I’m just speculating here, but maybe he donated to McCain in 2008, and then in 2012 he donated to Obama because Romney had a history of being terrible, and an anti gunner. Then he donated to Tulsi simply because she’s a veteran. If it happened like that I hardly see anything nefarious about it. Don't bring reason into this! They want to keep throwing a hissy fit! |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 11:16:09 AM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This thread (unsurprisingly) has attracted them all. The blue falcons come out in flocks... Its funny. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 11:16:18 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thought it was 2008 for McCain from what was posted here. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Are there no dates on the donations? I’m just speculating here, but maybe he donated to McCain in 2008, and then in 2012 he donated to Obama because Romney had a history of being terrible, and an anti gunner. Then he donated to Tulsi simply because she’s a veteran. If it happened like that I hardly see anything nefarious about it. Thought it was 2008 for McCain from what was posted here. So the above speculation is possible? If it were, would that be worthy of all this outrage? I’d like to see more evidence before I condemn the guy and his company. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 11:18:01 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you require that your allies views be identical to your own, pretty soon you’ll be standing all by yourself. I require that my allies don’t support my enemy. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 11:18:06 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fables of Aesop - The Bat, Birds, and The Beasts Moral: A Bat could not choose sides in a potential war. When peace came, neither side would accept him. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 11:18:33 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: BRCC. Exactly who and what I expect from Utah. The Mitt Romney of coffee. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 11:19:08 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Holy shit are those real? There is no BLM coffee listed on their website. FWIW, I did cancel my subscription to BRCC because of this issue and I wont be supporting them any further. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 11:20:12 AM EST
[#50]
After reading more of the facts presented in this thread, I canceled my subscription and pending order last night.
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