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Posted: 11/18/2021 4:59:31 PM EDT
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What is the best oil for preventing carbon valve buildup in a Kia GDI 2.4L (non-turbo)?
I've been told to go with royal purple or penzoil platinum. |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 5:01:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is the best oil for preventing carbon valve buildup in a Kia GDI 2.4L (non-turbo)? I've been told to go with royal purple or penzoil platinum. oooooohhhhh......Foxtrot is about to love you tenderly 
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Posted: 11/18/2021 5:01:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And you can get it cheaper on the Kendall's website than you can with Amazon and you get free shipping... @AirRaceFan Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I mean I go 9-10k on my 3.5EB. 90k miles so far on it. But whatever makes you comfortable. The 2.3 I would probably change it every 5-7k. And that is per an actual lubricant engineer who has a ranger with a 2.3. Edit: We of course oil sample these every time. So we know what is going on. With a base line. What oil do you use in your F-150. Kendall GT1 Max 5w30. And you can get it cheaper on the Kendall's website than you can with Amazon and you get free shipping... @AirRaceFan Too bad it isn't available in the 5qt jugs but thats a 1st world problem. |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 5:02:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You know it so well you say good fuel will prevent carbon buildup on the intake valves? Lol. You're so filled with engineering knowledge you can correlate directly with the correct % change in how carbon builds up in two separate locations in an engine and through entirely different mechanisms? Impressive. Impressive too how you can avoid admitting you were wrong to ignore noack test results for this application. Here's a good diy post on how to clean the intake valves with walnuts. You'll want to bookmark it. https://www.focusrs.org/threads/intake-valve-walnut-blasting.124071/ You've been tossing stones from the very beginning for no reason. Just like you do in every thread you post in. Don't be surprised or upset when it happens to you. But you are screaming to be heard, OH THE IRONY. |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 5:03:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: AMSoil is easily the best IMO. But I don't think it's worth it in most applications. Where it is worth it is gear oil for cold or severe use. Very good yes but the best only if you like a side of MLM with your oil. |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 5:04:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I my be learning here. My wife's 2019 Mazda with the sky active engine should have the oil changed how often? The car tells her but is it right?? What model and which engine? |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 5:04:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What model and which engine? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I my be learning here. My wife's 2019 Mazda with the sky active engine should have the oil changed how often? The car tells her but is it right?? What model and which engine? The skyactive engine..that one |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 5:06:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What model and which engine? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I my be learning here. My wife's 2019 Mazda with the sky active engine should have the oil changed how often? The car tells her but is it right?? What model and which engine? |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 5:10:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I spent two seconds googling and found this easy to understand article from Valvoline. Take note on what they say they do to minimize this effect and try to understand how that would relate to a noack test. https://team.valvoline.com/diy/truth-behind-carbon-buildup This and the low speed preignition issue are so widely known features with these engines it tells me you know absolutely nothing about op’s specific engine. There are probably hundreds of threads with thousands of posts of blown 2.3l engines because of the preignition issue. Why again are you providing links about a small % difference for carbon in completely unrelated problems and advising that fuel will prevent the issue I brought up? Because you have zero understanding of how op’s engine functions. You’re conflating your knowledge of oil with knowledge of this specific application. Common mistake amongst “experts”. Capnrob, is that you? 
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Posted: 11/18/2021 5:11:43 PM EDT
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Foxtrot08 I need a recommendation for a early 70's diesel non turbo tractor. 47 whopping horsepower. I did a water pump today and am going to flush and convert coolant to ELC because I like the stuff and see no downside. I need to do a fluid change for the rest of the tractor at some point. Is there a better hydraulic oil ? I think he was using 303 based on the empty 5 gallon pail I have but am not 100% on that, This lives in a southern environment and will rarely operate in the cold but will see hot weather. Thanks for the brain power.
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Posted: 11/18/2021 5:11:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Capnrob, is that you? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I spent two seconds googling and found this easy to understand article from Valvoline. Take note on what they say they do to minimize this effect and try to understand how that would relate to a noack test. https://team.valvoline.com/diy/truth-behind-carbon-buildup This and the low speed preignition issue are so widely known features with these engines it tells me you know absolutely nothing about op’s specific engine. There are probably hundreds of threads with thousands of posts of blown 2.3l engines because of the preignition issue. Why again are you providing links about a small % difference for carbon in completely unrelated problems and advising that fuel will prevent the issue I brought up? Because you have zero understanding of how op’s engine functions. You’re conflating your knowledge of oil with knowledge of this specific application. Common mistake amongst “experts”. Capnrob, is that you? LoL Cap N rob was a odd dude |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 5:14:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LoL Cap N rob was a odd dude Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I spent two seconds googling and found this easy to understand article from Valvoline. Take note on what they say they do to minimize this effect and try to understand how that would relate to a noack test. https://team.valvoline.com/diy/truth-behind-carbon-buildup This and the low speed preignition issue are so widely known features with these engines it tells me you know absolutely nothing about op's specific engine. There are probably hundreds of threads with thousands of posts of blown 2.3l engines because of the preignition issue. Why again are you providing links about a small % difference for carbon in completely unrelated problems and advising that fuel will prevent the issue I brought up? Because you have zero understanding of how op's engine functions. You're conflating your knowledge of oil with knowledge of this specific application. Common mistake amongst "experts". Capnrob, is that you? LoL Cap N rob was a odd dude |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 5:17:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is the best oil for preventing carbon valve buildup in a Kia GDI 2.4L (non-turbo)? I've been told to go with royal purple or penzoil platinum. Pennzoil platinum is solid. Royal purple is a meme. Even in their name. |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 5:19:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pennzoil platinum is solid. Royal purple is a meme. Even in their name. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What is the best oil for preventing carbon valve buildup in a Kia GDI 2.4L (non-turbo)? I've been told to go with royal purple or penzoil platinum. Pennzoil platinum is solid. Royal purple is a meme. Even in their name. Are you calling Robco liars?  The Shocking Oil Film Strength Test Using Royal Purple’s Synfilm |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 5:22:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: What is the best oil for preventing carbon valve buildup in a Kia GDI 2.4L (non-turbo)? I've been told to go with royal purple or penzoil platinum. Pennzoil platinum is solid. Royal purple is a meme. Even in their name. Are you calling Robco liars?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSfMfO2LDRIAh... the one arm bandit. It's like this guy, but more fat and bald.   If you're ever at a trade show and want to see them shit their pants, ask them to put dawn dish washing soap on it. Suddenly... HE'S STUMBLING, HE'S MUMBLING, BUMBLING, FUMBLING, OH MY THE HUGE MANTITY. |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 5:24:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ah... the one arm bandit. It's like this guy, but more fat and bald. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/148484/farm-1024x678-1355570.png https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/148484/China-s-Shandong-Yantai-Flamingos-Hw-6-O-1355569.jpg If you're ever at a trade show and want to see them shit their pants, ask them to put dawn dish washing soap on it. Suddenly... HE'S STUMBLING, HE'S MUMBLING, BUMBLING, FUMBLING, OH MY THE HUGE MANTITY. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What is the best oil for preventing carbon valve buildup in a Kia GDI 2.4L (non-turbo)? I've been told to go with royal purple or penzoil platinum. Pennzoil platinum is solid. Royal purple is a meme. Even in their name. Are you calling Robco liars? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSfMfO2LDRIAh... the one arm bandit. It's like this guy, but more fat and bald. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/148484/farm-1024x678-1355570.png https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/148484/China-s-Shandong-Yantai-Flamingos-Hw-6-O-1355569.jpg If you're ever at a trade show and want to see them shit their pants, ask them to put dawn dish washing soap on it. Suddenly... HE'S STUMBLING, HE'S MUMBLING, BUMBLING, FUMBLING, OH MY THE HUGE MANTITY. hahahahaha....that's awesome...sometimes you get them at the boat shows...I am gonna try that line with them next time. I do have a serious question....what trick are they using in this prolong infomercial to get the engines from failing from lack of oil? did they load the engine up with grease of somthing?  Prolong World Challenge |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 5:25:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Supertech. |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 5:26:24 PM EDT
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Just make sure you run some Lucas Oil additive, it's the best.
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Posted: 11/18/2021 5:26:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Foxtrot08 I need a recommendation for a early 70's diesel non turbo tractor. 47 whopping horsepower. I did a water pump today and am going to flush and convert coolant to ELC because I like the stuff and see no downside. I need to do a fluid change for the rest of the tractor at some point. Is there a better hydraulic oil ? I think he was using 303 based on the empty 5 gallon pail I have but am not 100% on that, This lives in a southern environment and will rarely operate in the cold but will see hot weather. Thanks for the brain power. I use DXA 15w40 in all my tractors, including my 1948 International T6 crawler, 1952 Farmall Super C and 1964 806 with a turbo. And my 1956 CAT D4 7u, 1961 CAT 12. Etc. Any good 15w40 would be fantastic for it. No down side to ELC. I put final charge in literally everything. Just more expensive, but it's a much, much better product. I run final charge in all the above, plus my 2305 deere, pick up trucks, whatever. One size fits all. So you have basically three modern spec's for tractor hydraulics. J20C - normal Tractor hydraulic fluid. J20D - Cold flow (low vis) tractor hydraulic fluid. Super UDT2 - Kubota's new one. I run Kendall Hyken 052 Plus / Powertran XP - it meets both J20C and Super UDT2. It's cut the 'chatter' on the loaders down a lot. But I would highly recommend the Powertran / Hyken line. If you want to go with a great product, look up the 052 Plus / XP product. Only non-Kubota product to be approved by Kubota for the UDT2. However, anything that meets / exceeds J20C would work great. ... Just not 303. never use 303. And whoever is making 303 fluid had probably received several spicy lawyer letters. |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 5:28:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just make sure you run some Lucas Oil additive, it's the best. horsehockey....Pro Long or Slick 50 |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 5:28:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: hahahahaha....that's awesome...sometimes you get them at the boat shows...I am gonna try that line with them next time. I do have a serious question....what trick are they using in this prolong infomercial to get the engines from failing from lack of oil? did they load the engine up with grease of somthing? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9Sbo9RQA4wQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What is the best oil for preventing carbon valve buildup in a Kia GDI 2.4L (non-turbo)? I've been told to go with royal purple or penzoil platinum. Pennzoil platinum is solid. Royal purple is a meme. Even in their name. Are you calling Robco liars? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSfMfO2LDRIAh... the one arm bandit. It's like this guy, but more fat and bald. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/148484/farm-1024x678-1355570.png https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/148484/China-s-Shandong-Yantai-Flamingos-Hw-6-O-1355569.jpg If you're ever at a trade show and want to see them shit their pants, ask them to put dawn dish washing soap on it. Suddenly... HE'S STUMBLING, HE'S MUMBLING, BUMBLING, FUMBLING, OH MY THE HUGE MANTITY. hahahahaha....that's awesome...sometimes you get them at the boat shows...I am gonna try that line with them next time. I do have a serious question....what trick are they using in this prolong infomercial to get the engines from failing from lack of oil? did they load the engine up with grease of somthing? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9Sbo9RQA4wNone of it is calibrated. And they've gotten the federal spicy lawyer letters. https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/1999/09/prolong-super-lubricants-settles-ftc-charges |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 5:29:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: horsehockey....Pro Long or Slick 50 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just make sure you run some Lucas Oil additive, it's the best. horsehockey....Pro Long or Slick 50 I bet they don't have demos at the stores! I can see it working. 
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Posted: 11/18/2021 5:30:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I mean, do you want the short answer or the long answer to the base oil question? I dont need it but It’s GD. “Oil thread” You are in A tough biz. Have a close friend in lubricant/Fuel sales/Distribution for nearly 30 years. Learned a lot over the years. So much misconception. |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 5:31:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: CX-5, grand touring or something like that? No turbo. I think its a 2.5L The 7500mi interval from the manual works for most people. Or, if the oil change indicator is set to flexible, it will tell you when to change it. Mazda corporate put out a bulletin a while back listing unneeded maintenance items that dealers usually push. Injector cleaning was one of them |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 5:31:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: None of it is calibrated. And they've gotten the federal spicy lawyer letters. https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/1999/09/prolong-super-lubricants-settles-ftc-charges Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What is the best oil for preventing carbon valve buildup in a Kia GDI 2.4L (non-turbo)? I've been told to go with royal purple or penzoil platinum. Pennzoil platinum is solid. Royal purple is a meme. Even in their name. Are you calling Robco liars? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSfMfO2LDRIAh... the one arm bandit. It's like this guy, but more fat and bald. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/148484/farm-1024x678-1355570.png https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/148484/China-s-Shandong-Yantai-Flamingos-Hw-6-O-1355569.jpg If you're ever at a trade show and want to see them shit their pants, ask them to put dawn dish washing soap on it. Suddenly... HE'S STUMBLING, HE'S MUMBLING, BUMBLING, FUMBLING, OH MY THE HUGE MANTITY. hahahahaha....that's awesome...sometimes you get them at the boat shows...I am gonna try that line with them next time. I do have a serious question....what trick are they using in this prolong infomercial to get the engines from failing from lack of oil? did they load the engine up with grease of somthing? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9Sbo9RQA4wNone of it is calibrated. And they've gotten the federal spicy lawyer letters. https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/1999/09/prolong-super-lubricants-settles-ftc-charges damn....lol FTC on their asses I get how they do the bearing tests, I am just trying to figure out the actual engines besides them just lying (which is possible) now I know you can get coated bearings, piston skirts etc, but I think that didn't really exist back then |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 5:32:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I bet they don't have demos at the stores! I can see it working. https://i.imgur.com/QSSTupz.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Just make sure you run some Lucas Oil additive, it's the best. horsehockey....Pro Long or Slick 50 I bet they don't have demos at the stores! I can see it working. https://i.imgur.com/QSSTupz.jpg HA! Christy "Fine Ass" Lee would not lie!  Slick 50 Supercharged Full Synthetic Engine Treatment |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 5:34:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Just make sure you run some Lucas Oil additive, it's the best. horsehockey....Pro Long or Slick 50 I bet they don't have demos at the stores! I can see it working. https://i.imgur.com/QSSTupz.jpg HA! Christy "Fine Ass" Lee would not lie! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deC34Dusc9AShe doesn't have pointy elbows, clearly she is trustworthy! |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 5:37:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: She doesn't have pointy elbows, clearly she is trustworthy! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Just make sure you run some Lucas Oil additive, it's the best. horsehockey....Pro Long or Slick 50 I bet they don't have demos at the stores! I can see it working. https://i.imgur.com/QSSTupz.jpg HA! Christy "Fine Ass" Lee would not lie! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deC34Dusc9AShe doesn't have pointy elbows, clearly she is trustworthy! She is also stout AF from the waist down! 
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Posted: 11/18/2021 5:38:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You know it so well you say good fuel will prevent carbon buildup on the intake valves? Lol. You’re so filled with engineering knowledge you can correlate directly with the correct % change in how carbon builds up in two separate locations in an engine and through entirely different mechanisms? Impressive. Impressive too how you can avoid admitting you were wrong to ignore noack test results for this application. Here’s a good diy post on how to clean the intake valves with walnuts. You’ll want to bookmark it. https://www.focusrs.org/threads/intake-valve-walnut-blasting.124071/ You’ve been tossing stones from the very beginning for no reason. Just like you do in every thread you post in. Don’t be surprised or upset when it happens to you. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They’re trying to sell you a GDI service in that link. I could too. As I make one. And actually sell 3 different brands. But that’s not the intention of this thread. And I’ve addressed the LSPI issue now in what, 4 posts? I know this engine very well. Very, very well. And I own a few of the 2.3Ls now. You’re lack of comprehension is not my problem. I’m posting factual information, from the chemical companies that do the engine stand tests. And development of additives. You’re throwing stones and linking shit from Valvoline. Which is an investment capital group. That wants to sell you shit. You know it so well you say good fuel will prevent carbon buildup on the intake valves? Lol. You’re so filled with engineering knowledge you can correlate directly with the correct % change in how carbon builds up in two separate locations in an engine and through entirely different mechanisms? Impressive. Impressive too how you can avoid admitting you were wrong to ignore noack test results for this application. Here’s a good diy post on how to clean the intake valves with walnuts. You’ll want to bookmark it. https://www.focusrs.org/threads/intake-valve-walnut-blasting.124071/ You’ve been tossing stones from the very beginning for no reason. Just like you do in every thread you post in. Don’t be surprised or upset when it happens to you. Yes, I am saying that. In 2005 when we removed MTBE from gasoline as a nation, deposit concerns from fuel began to grow. Ethanol fuels burn unevenly. This is known issue with ethanol, especially if it's left in a tank for any period of time. While in the same time frame, we went from MTBE, to Ethanol and MMT (Methylcyclopentadienyl manganese tricarbonyl) (Octane additive.) MMT fuel additives are a known for creating deposits. https://www.jstor.org/stable/26273472 A good read, not just some DIY shit. Also from the SAE (You know... the society of automotive engineers... Kinda a big deal.)So please continue on how I am out of my league. |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 5:50:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: damn....lol FTC on their asses I get how they do the bearing tests, I am just trying to figure out the actual engines besides them just lying (which is possible) now I know you can get coated bearings, piston skirts etc, but I think that didn't really exist back then Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What is the best oil for preventing carbon valve buildup in a Kia GDI 2.4L (non-turbo)? I've been told to go with royal purple or penzoil platinum. Pennzoil platinum is solid. Royal purple is a meme. Even in their name. Are you calling Robco liars? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSfMfO2LDRIAh... the one arm bandit. It's like this guy, but more fat and bald. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/148484/farm-1024x678-1355570.png https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/148484/China-s-Shandong-Yantai-Flamingos-Hw-6-O-1355569.jpg If you're ever at a trade show and want to see them shit their pants, ask them to put dawn dish washing soap on it. Suddenly... HE'S STUMBLING, HE'S MUMBLING, BUMBLING, FUMBLING, OH MY THE HUGE MANTITY. hahahahaha....that's awesome...sometimes you get them at the boat shows...I am gonna try that line with them next time. I do have a serious question....what trick are they using in this prolong infomercial to get the engines from failing from lack of oil? did they load the engine up with grease of somthing? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9Sbo9RQA4wNone of it is calibrated. And they've gotten the federal spicy lawyer letters. https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/1999/09/prolong-super-lubricants-settles-ftc-charges damn....lol FTC on their asses I get how they do the bearing tests, I am just trying to figure out the actual engines besides them just lying (which is possible) now I know you can get coated bearings, piston skirts etc, but I think that didn't really exist back then ZDDP chemically bonds to the outer layers of the metal inside the engine, forming a protective - sacrificial barrier - so the metal doesn't actually wear, but instead the coating dues. Thus why back in the day - higher zinc was needed. Its the same principle as sulfur in gear oils. It forms a 'plating' over the metal. |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 5:51:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ZDDP chemically bonds to the outer layers of the metal inside the engine, forming a protective - sacrificial barrier - so the metal doesn't actually wear, but instead the coating dues. Thus why back in the day - higher zinc was needed. Its the same principle as sulfur in gear oils. It forms a 'plating' over the metal. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What is the best oil for preventing carbon valve buildup in a Kia GDI 2.4L (non-turbo)? I've been told to go with royal purple or penzoil platinum. Pennzoil platinum is solid. Royal purple is a meme. Even in their name. Are you calling Robco liars? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSfMfO2LDRIAh... the one arm bandit. It's like this guy, but more fat and bald. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/148484/farm-1024x678-1355570.png https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/148484/China-s-Shandong-Yantai-Flamingos-Hw-6-O-1355569.jpg If you're ever at a trade show and want to see them shit their pants, ask them to put dawn dish washing soap on it. Suddenly... HE'S STUMBLING, HE'S MUMBLING, BUMBLING, FUMBLING, OH MY THE HUGE MANTITY. hahahahaha....that's awesome...sometimes you get them at the boat shows...I am gonna try that line with them next time. I do have a serious question....what trick are they using in this prolong infomercial to get the engines from failing from lack of oil? did they load the engine up with grease of somthing? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9Sbo9RQA4wNone of it is calibrated. And they've gotten the federal spicy lawyer letters. https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/1999/09/prolong-super-lubricants-settles-ftc-charges damn....lol FTC on their asses I get how they do the bearing tests, I am just trying to figure out the actual engines besides them just lying (which is possible) now I know you can get coated bearings, piston skirts etc, but I think that didn't really exist back then ZDDP chemically bonds to the outer layers of the metal inside the engine, forming a protective - sacrificial barrier - so the metal doesn't actually wear, but instead the coating dues. Thus why back in the day - higher zinc was needed. Its the same principle as sulfur in gear oils. It forms a 'plating' over the metal. So it technically works?
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Posted: 11/18/2021 5:54:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So it technically works? Eh. https://prolong.com/Downloads/SDS_Sheets/sds_Oil_Stabilizer.pdf At least their post lawsuit version, doesn't really do anything good... Base oil, base oil. a very minor amount of ZDDP. Some calcium to increase TBN. Base oil. Trade secret. Base oil. If you have a GDI-T engine, might cause a rod to enter orbit once in a while. Or try to find its way back to the motherland of iron ore. |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 5:56:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Full synthetics already have a seal swell additive. So adding more is meh. Won’t hurt anything though. Just more of a cost. Good to know; that’ll save me a dollar or two per bottle when I stock up next. Thanks. |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 5:56:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Eh. https://prolong.com/Downloads/SDS_Sheets/sds_Oil_Stabilizer.pdf At least their post lawsuit version, doesn't really do anything good... Base oil, base oil. a very minor amount of ZDDP. Some calcium to increase TBN. Base oil. Trade secret. Base oil. If you have a GDI-T engine, might cause a rod to enter orbit once in a while. Or try to find its way back to the motherland of iron ore. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So it technically works? Eh. https://prolong.com/Downloads/SDS_Sheets/sds_Oil_Stabilizer.pdf At least their post lawsuit version, doesn't really do anything good... Base oil, base oil. a very minor amount of ZDDP. Some calcium to increase TBN. Base oil. Trade secret. Base oil. If you have a GDI-T engine, might cause a rod to enter orbit once in a while. Or try to find its way back to the motherland of iron ore. 
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Posted: 11/18/2021 6:01:01 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I bet they don't have demos at the stores! I can see it working. https://i.imgur.com/QSSTupz.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Just make sure you run some Lucas Oil additive, it's the best. horsehockey....Pro Long or Slick 50 I bet they don't have demos at the stores! I can see it working. https://i.imgur.com/QSSTupz.jpg So, anti-shill notice. I am a Lucas oil master distributor. I have CASES of those pieces of shit. In our meetings before we signed on as a distributor. I got them to admit that their oil stabilize is quote "Not intended to be used with a fully formulated, licensed engine oil." It is designed for "Older vehicles using sub-par oil." |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 6:02:34 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So, anti-shill notice. I am a Lucas oil master distributor. I have CASES of those pieces of shit. In our meetings before we signed on as a distributor. I got them to admit that their oil stabilize is quote "Not intended to be used with a fully formulated, licensed engine oil." It is designed for "Older vehicles using sub-par oil." Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Just make sure you run some Lucas Oil additive, it's the best. horsehockey....Pro Long or Slick 50 I bet they don't have demos at the stores! I can see it working. https://i.imgur.com/QSSTupz.jpg So, anti-shill notice. I am a Lucas oil master distributor. I have CASES of those pieces of shit. In our meetings before we signed on as a distributor. I got them to admit that their oil stabilize is quote "Not intended to be used with a fully formulated, licensed engine oil." It is designed for "Older vehicles using sub-par oil." Just poking the bear. I enjoy your informative posts. I've always wanted one of those to hang on my wall as an "art piece." Cheers. |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 6:03:27 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just poking the bear. I enjoy your informative posts. Cheers. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Just make sure you run some Lucas Oil additive, it's the best. horsehockey....Pro Long or Slick 50 I bet they don't have demos at the stores! I can see it working. https://i.imgur.com/QSSTupz.jpg So, anti-shill notice. I am a Lucas oil master distributor. I have CASES of those pieces of shit. In our meetings before we signed on as a distributor. I got them to admit that their oil stabilize is quote "Not intended to be used with a fully formulated, licensed engine oil." It is designed for "Older vehicles using sub-par oil." Just poking the bear. I enjoy your informative posts. Cheers. All good. They were hyping their line of motor oil up. And I asked them "Okay, do you recommend use of the oil stabilizer with your engine oil?" "Well... no." Uh-huh.... |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 6:06:21 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: All good. They were hyping their line of motor oil up. And I asked them "Okay, do you recommend use of the oil stabilizer with your engine oil?" "Well... no." Uh-huh.... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Just make sure you run some Lucas Oil additive, it's the best. horsehockey....Pro Long or Slick 50 I bet they don't have demos at the stores! I can see it working. https://i.imgur.com/QSSTupz.jpg So, anti-shill notice. I am a Lucas oil master distributor. I have CASES of those pieces of shit. In our meetings before we signed on as a distributor. I got them to admit that their oil stabilize is quote "Not intended to be used with a fully formulated, licensed engine oil." It is designed for "Older vehicles using sub-par oil." Just poking the bear. I enjoy your informative posts. Cheers. All good. They were hyping their line of motor oil up. And I asked them "Okay, do you recommend use of the oil stabilizer with your engine oil?" "Well... no." Uh-huh....  Sounds about right. I love that this site has so many SME in a variety of different areas. |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 6:06:44 PM EDT
[#39]
Foxtrot I'll trade you some Slap ya momma seasoning for a Lucas Oil thing
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Posted: 11/18/2021 6:09:05 PM EDT
[#40]
I run Pennzoil Platinum 5w-30 in the Camaro and the Castrol Edge 0w-20 in the Miata.
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Posted: 11/18/2021 6:10:22 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Foxtrot I'll trade you some Slap ya momma seasoning for a Lucas Oil thing Not sure if these are the Lucas ones or the p66 fucking terrible “lower visco city” displays. But I know I have some.  Also, on another note. I do like their clp. Think I have enough?
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Posted: 11/18/2021 6:10:26 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Foxtrot I'll trade you some Slap ya momma seasoning for a Lucas Oil thing Heh. I want to turn one into a functional a art piece aka a clock. A few gears and a electric motor to make it spin, clock mechanism and some LEDs. |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 6:12:15 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not sure if these are the Lucas ones or the p66 fucking terrible “lower visco city” displays. But I know I have some. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/148484/CB3ADE6B-239A-4232-A162-B01C2ACF181E-2171676.jpg Also, on another note. I do like their clp. Think I have enough? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Foxtrot I'll trade you some Slap ya momma seasoning for a Lucas Oil thing Not sure if these are the Lucas ones or the p66 fucking terrible “lower visco city” displays. But I know I have some. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/148484/CB3ADE6B-239A-4232-A162-B01C2ACF181E-2171676.jpg Also, on another note. I do like their clp. Think I have enough? hahaha....damn man that's a shit load of CLP |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 6:13:54 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: hahaha....damn man that's a shit load of CLP Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Foxtrot I'll trade you some Slap ya momma seasoning for a Lucas Oil thing Not sure if these are the Lucas ones or the p66 fucking terrible “lower visco city” displays. But I know I have some. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/148484/CB3ADE6B-239A-4232-A162-B01C2ACF181E-2171676.jpg Also, on another note. I do like their clp. Think I have enough? hahaha....damn man that's a shit load of CLP To be fair, it takes a shit load for my m82a1. But we sell a few gun dealers. However to prevent it from walking away from our warehouse. We keep it in the office closet. There’s about a pallet of Lucas gun stuff in there. Cleaner, gun grease, clp, etc. |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 6:16:09 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: To be fair, it takes a shit load for my m82a1. But we sell a few gun dealers. However to prevent it from walking away from our warehouse. We keep it in the office closet. There’s about a pallet of Lucas gun stuff in there. Cleaner, gun grease, clp, etc. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Foxtrot I'll trade you some Slap ya momma seasoning for a Lucas Oil thing Not sure if these are the Lucas ones or the p66 fucking terrible “lower visco city” displays. But I know I have some. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/148484/CB3ADE6B-239A-4232-A162-B01C2ACF181E-2171676.jpg Also, on another note. I do like their clp. Think I have enough? hahaha....damn man that's a shit load of CLP To be fair, it takes a shit load for my m82a1. But we sell a few gun dealers. However to prevent it from walking away from our warehouse. We keep it in the office closet. There’s about a pallet of Lucas gun stuff in there. Cleaner, gun grease, clp, etc. So literally the good stuff is kept in the back? I can see the M82 eating a lot of CLP |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 6:18:02 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So literally the good stuff is kept in the back? I can see the M82 eating a lot of CLP
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Posted: 11/18/2021 6:18:16 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So literally the good stuff is kept in the back? I can see the M82 eating a lot of CLP Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Foxtrot I'll trade you some Slap ya momma seasoning for a Lucas Oil thing Not sure if these are the Lucas ones or the p66 fucking terrible “lower visco city” displays. But I know I have some. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/148484/CB3ADE6B-239A-4232-A162-B01C2ACF181E-2171676.jpg Also, on another note. I do like their clp. Think I have enough? hahaha....damn man that's a shit load of CLP To be fair, it takes a shit load for my m82a1. But we sell a few gun dealers. However to prevent it from walking away from our warehouse. We keep it in the office closet. There’s about a pallet of Lucas gun stuff in there. Cleaner, gun grease, clp, etc. So literally the good stuff is kept in the back? I can see the M82 eating a lot of CLP People take what is easy. We have cases of Kluber grease that are significantly more expensive than all that product combined, in the warehouse. But what the fuck, who’s gonna steal $1000 grease that you have no idea what it even does? Or it’s for? Gun oil… now everyone can use that. |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 6:22:33 PM EDT
[#48]
Use transmission fluid. I doesn't need to be changed as often.
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Posted: 11/18/2021 6:23:21 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: People take what is easy. We have cases of Kluber grease that are significantly more expensive than all that product combined, in the warehouse. But what the fuck, who’s gonna steal $1000 grease that you have no idea what it even does? Or it’s for? Gun oil… now everyone can use that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Foxtrot I'll trade you some Slap ya momma seasoning for a Lucas Oil thing Not sure if these are the Lucas ones or the p66 fucking terrible “lower visco city” displays. But I know I have some. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/148484/CB3ADE6B-239A-4232-A162-B01C2ACF181E-2171676.jpg Also, on another note. I do like their clp. Think I have enough? hahaha....damn man that's a shit load of CLP To be fair, it takes a shit load for my m82a1. But we sell a few gun dealers. However to prevent it from walking away from our warehouse. We keep it in the office closet. There’s about a pallet of Lucas gun stuff in there. Cleaner, gun grease, clp, etc. So literally the good stuff is kept in the back? I can see the M82 eating a lot of CLP People take what is easy. We have cases of Kluber grease that are significantly more expensive than all that product combined, in the warehouse. But what the fuck, who’s gonna steal $1000 grease that you have no idea what it even does? Or it’s for? Gun oil… now everyone can use that. So you put Gun Oil in the rear?  This thread is going places. Sorry, I had to do it. |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 6:24:13 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: People take what is easy. We have cases of Kluber grease that are significantly more expensive than all that product combined, in the warehouse. But what the fuck, who’s gonna steal $1000 grease that you have no idea what it even does? Or it’s for? Gun oil… now everyone can use that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Foxtrot I'll trade you some Slap ya momma seasoning for a Lucas Oil thing Not sure if these are the Lucas ones or the p66 fucking terrible “lower visco city” displays. But I know I have some. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/148484/CB3ADE6B-239A-4232-A162-B01C2ACF181E-2171676.jpg Also, on another note. I do like their clp. Think I have enough? hahaha....damn man that's a shit load of CLP To be fair, it takes a shit load for my m82a1. But we sell a few gun dealers. However to prevent it from walking away from our warehouse. We keep it in the office closet. There’s about a pallet of Lucas gun stuff in there. Cleaner, gun grease, clp, etc. So literally the good stuff is kept in the back? I can see the M82 eating a lot of CLP People take what is easy. We have cases of Kluber grease that are significantly more expensive than all that product combined, in the warehouse. But what the fuck, who’s gonna steal $1000 grease that you have no idea what it even does? Or it’s for? Gun oil… now everyone can use that. god damn...
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