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Link Posted: 8/29/2018 9:37:46 AM EST
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What the fuck. In
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 9:38:15 AM EST
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The same type of person who puts a waste treatment facility next to a playground.
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Who the hell puts a school next to a prison?
The same type of person who puts a waste treatment facility next to a playground.
Or the snack bar next to the outhouse.
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 9:40:21 AM EST
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I pondered what would happen if someone did this on purpose in the Canadian fentanyl thread...
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 9:40:52 AM EST
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Breaking news ......

But they already know the agent used and the delivery method.....

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Interdasting
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 9:41:54 AM EST
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As someone who works in a prison, this is absolutely terrifying.  I hope all staff are ok.
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 9:42:45 AM EST
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Now they're bringing in heavy equipment, brought in a large sized crane.....
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 9:42:50 AM EST
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Article I read said they suspect fenatyl.

They probably see it enough.
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 9:43:12 AM EST
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Do you have a live stream that isn't on Facebook?
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 9:43:14 AM EST
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Or a trial run or important prisoner....if it's even true
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Seems more likely that some stashed it in air ducts, but failed miserably at packaging.
Or a trial run or important prisoner....if it's even true
My guess based on an initial reaction to the news. Perhaps a warning?
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 9:43:38 AM EST
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This is kind of frightening if you think about it.  What is harder to access; prison HVAC or school/mall/corporate HVAC?  I hope everyone recovers and they quickly  catch whoever is responsible.
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 9:44:50 AM EST
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But they already know the agent used and the delivery method.....

Hmmm...
Interdasting
When a large number of inmates and guards start presenting with immediate signs of opiate overdose, it doesn't take much deductive reasoning to get to fentanyl in an air duct.
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 9:45:24 AM EST
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That seems odd.
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 9:45:36 AM EST
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The same type of person who puts a waste treatment facility next to a playground.
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Who the hell puts a school next to a prison?
The same type of person who puts a waste treatment facility next to a playground.
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 9:45:57 AM EST
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This is kind of frightening if you think about it.  What is harder to access; prison HVAC or school/mall/corporate HVAC?  I hope everyone recovers and they quickly  catch whoever is responsible.
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I've had mall security escort me to roof access doors, unlock them and leave when I was changing filters. It's not hard at all.
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 9:48:19 AM EST
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I pondered what would happen if someone did this on purpose in the Canadian fentanyl thread...
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Yup.  Only a matter of time before someone realized (obvious, really) and tried to use it as a chemical agent.

I thought it would be MS-13 or ROPers attacking rivals or the general public though.
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 9:48:29 AM EST
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I could see it as a test run for doing the same to a school. Architecture and HVAC systems are very similar.
(Hell, in my state they've been built by the same architects and construction firms.)
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That could be an ideal test bed for delivery methods and observation of results.
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 9:50:07 AM EST
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National guard has sent equipment.
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 9:51:03 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/29/2018 9:51:04 AM EST
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I just saw this episode of The Wire, Tilghman bought the heroin, which was laced with strychnine at the behest of Stringer Bell, from Blind Butchie.
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 9:51:27 AM EST
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Feds are on-site in unmarked cars. About a dozen just showed up in unison on SR104.
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 9:51:43 AM EST
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Yup.  Only a matter of time before someone realized (obvious, really) and tried to use it as a chemical agent.

I thought it would be MS-13 or ROPers attacking rivals or the general public though.
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Lots of ROPers in prisons
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 9:51:58 AM EST
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Was about to say seems fake

But maybe Im wrong
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 9:52:24 AM EST
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Its just gonna get worse, that shit is pouring across the border by the ton, enough to kill every man, woman, and child on the planet 100x over.
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The Fentanyl hysteria in GD is hilarious......

"OMG if you touch it you die"  
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 9:52:31 AM EST
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Might be an inmate attack given the casualties I'm seeing reported.

Link Posted: 8/29/2018 9:53:22 AM EST
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Could it be a bad batch of K2...2 inmates smoking it..cellies, then have reaction, staff respond and due to second hand smoke, get affected by it. Had that happen to me twice.
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 9:53:58 AM EST
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Wall just got 100' higher.
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 9:55:52 AM EST
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Possible escape now also?
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 9:56:08 AM EST
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Yup, Ive been waiting for it.. either in the water supply. or dropped via Drone over a congested traffic area..
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 9:56:16 AM EST
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Could it be a bad batch of K2...2 inmates smoking it..cellies, then have reaction, staff respond and due to second hand smoke, get affected by it. Had that happen to me twice.
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You got a reaction off of second hand k2 smoke
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 9:57:03 AM EST
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I just saw this episode of The Wire, Tilghman bought the heroin, which was laced with strychnine at the behest of Stringer Bell, from Blind Butchie.
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Weaponized fentanyl is a whole different ball game from a hotshot.
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 9:57:04 AM EST
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The Fentanyl hysteria in GD is hilarious......

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We had a responding officer here in ohio overdose due to picking up a leaking bag of it.

Pure Fenatyl or Cartfenatil is absolutely deadly stuff.
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 9:59:19 AM EST
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I run a medium sized news agency here in Ohio. Had a guard contact us.
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Breaking news ......

But they already know the agent used and the delivery method.....

Hmmm...
I run a medium sized news agency here in Ohio. Had a guard contact us.
Well if they were telling you about an incident I get it., but if they stated the agent and delivery method without analysis then they are just talking out their ass.
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 10:00:38 AM EST
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Yes...when responding to inmates who have negative reactions to the stuff while in their cells, no place for all that smoke to go while you're fighting to restrain an inmate...

@chase45
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 10:02:13 AM EST
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Space suits for cleanup crews
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 10:03:02 AM EST
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We were all thinking it. If this turns out to be Carfentanil, then it's definitely a chemical weapon terror attack. That shit wouldn't make it into a prison via smuggling.
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 10:03:34 AM EST
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Yes...when responding to inmates who have negative reactions to the stuff while in their cells, no place for all that smoke to go while you're fighting to restrain an inmate...

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Interesting

I guess I didnt think k2 be like it is but it do
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 10:03:58 AM EST
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Might be an inmate attack given the casualties I'm seeing reported.

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Sounds like someone targeted a staff area.
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 10:04:01 AM EST
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I wonder if it has anything to do with the national prison strike that started last week and is supposed to last 19 days? I read where OH was pushing back pretty hard on the leaders in their system by revoking phone privileges and the like.

Of course the Commies are behind it.

https://www.workers.org/2018/08/28/national-prison-strike-enters-second-week/
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 10:05:53 AM EST
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its legit.
Wife works at hospital nearby said had a code yellow meaning a disaster just happened. She didnt know what it was but has to be this.
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 10:06:16 AM EST
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Interesting

I guess I didnt think k2 be like it is but it do
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Yes...when responding to inmates who have negative reactions to the stuff while in their cells, no place for all that smoke to go while you're fighting to restrain an inmate...

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Interesting

I guess I didnt think k2 be like it is but it do
Yep, it's a serious issue in prison. And who the fuck knows what is in each batch that gets smuggled in
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 10:07:31 AM EST
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Who the hell puts a school next to a prison?
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Ohio
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 10:09:14 AM EST
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I must have said in every thread that it wouldnt be long till it gets turned into a weapon.  even if accidental in this case it will happen. Its like the magical sleep dust of hollywood
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 10:09:23 AM EST
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Yep, it's a serious issue in prison. And who the fuck knows what is in each batch that gets smuggled in
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For the longest time weren't they just switching the chemicals around to avoid being illegal?

I remember gas stations having that stuff everywhere about 5 years ago or so
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 10:11:02 AM EST
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I've had mall security escort me to roof access doors, unlock them and leave when I was changing filters. It's not hard at all.
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Dickies Shirt, check.
Air Filters, check.
Tool Box, check.

That's all the security defeating tools needed.
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 10:12:05 AM EST
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The Fentanyl hysteria in GD is hilarious......

"OMG if you touch it you die"  
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Its just gonna get worse, that shit is pouring across the border by the ton, enough to kill every man, woman, and child on the planet 100x over.


The Fentanyl hysteria in GD is hilarious......

"OMG if you touch it you die"  
Sarin has a lethal dose (LD50) of 30 micrograms per kilogram for monkeys. Fentanyl has the same lethal dose, carfentanil's is lower.

Kharn
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 10:12:18 AM EST
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Vulnerability of HVAC systems are another reason I get nervous about President Trump making speaking tours  at different places.
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 10:13:18 AM EST
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Yep, it's a serious issue in prison. And who the fuck knows what is in each batch that gets smuggled in
For the longest time weren't they just switching the chemicals around to avoid being illegal?

I remember gas stations having that stuff everywhere about 5 years ago or so
Yes and it's why it is so popular bc it is hard to test for in prison. When I was in investigations any larger batches I would come across would have to be taken to the lab so they could break down the chemicals and get me the results before I could charge them. It's a lengthy process and most field tests really aren't accurate with it. Many have died in fed joints due to it, not sure about state/county but I'm sure it's just as bad if not worse.
Link Posted: 8/29/2018 10:19:29 AM EST
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Yes and it's why it is so popular bc it is hard to test for in prison. When I was in investigations any larger batches I would come across would have to be taken to the lab so they could break down the chemicals and get me the results before I could charge them. It's a lengthy process and most field tests really aren't accurate with it. Many have died in fed joints due to it, not sure about state/county but I'm sure it's just as bad if not worse.
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This right here. K2 is a huge issues in prison. Inmates present as psychotic or unresponsive many times and are a significant danger to the staff that need to restrain them.  Testing is also a crap shoot due to the ever changing formula used to produce the drug.  Many just think "fuck the inmates" when they hear about how drugs like k2 and the recent surge in fentanyl are affecting the prison, however its the staff that are in the most danger and are rarely provided with the necessary equipment to handle these threats.
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