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And he was too that's what the speech and the unicorn was about by Castillo. Ryan fucking gosling :( Her: Robots? Him: Ryan Gosling. Her: Okay <3 <3 <3 |
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My guess is they are going to use the "Final Cut" as canon and Rachel is long dead (having hit her four year life span, plus Sean Young is apparently on record saying she isn't in the movie at all and nobody returned her calls... and not just because she has a rep for being bat shit crazy now), Deckard is hiding in some wasteland as a wanted man most likely (because he can't show his face back in society otherwise he'd be arrested), Deckard is human (because his original story doesn't work if he is a replicant), and Ryan Gosling's character is brand new and in no way related to Deckard... but follows a storyline very similar to Deckard's. My thinking is that the story will be something of a remake but continue elements of the old story ala Force Awakens. Gosling will be a new Blade Runner tasked with hunting down another group of renegade replicants, one of which will be a new Tyrell prototype (the brunette, made by a "new" Tyrell played by Leto). He will follow a similar path as Deckard (falling in love with the prototype as he hunts the others), but in the process he will learn about the story and whereabouts of Deckard and Rachel (possibly from Gaff) and how they disappeared 30 years ago. This will give him some sort of drive to find them to see if they actually did escape and live "happily ever after" (giving him hope he can do the same). In the process there will be some story development that makes Gosling's character question his own humanity, and we eventually discover at the end that he himself is a prototype replicant built to hunt down other replicants (finally bowing to the whole "Decard is a replicant" thing, but without damaging the original film's plot). View Quote |
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Good hypothesis. If they go by Ridley's "He's a replicant" BS, then he will be one in this movie. I hope not since he was not one in the book or in the original movie and no unicorn dream inserted in the film will change that. The book "Future Noir: The Making of Blade Runner" has nothing about him being a replicant. There's just too much evidence in the movie to positively say "He's not a replicant." View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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My guess is they are going to use the "Final Cut" as canon and Rachel is long dead (having hit her four year life span, plus Sean Young is apparently on record saying she isn't in the movie at all and nobody returned her calls... and not just because she has a rep for being bat shit crazy now), Deckard is hiding in some wasteland as a wanted man most likely (because he can't show his face back in society otherwise he'd be arrested), Deckard is human (because his original story doesn't work if he is a replicant), and Ryan Gosling's character is brand new and in no way related to Deckard... but follows a storyline very similar to Deckard's. My thinking is that the story will be something of a remake but continue elements of the old story ala Force Awakens. Gosling will be a new Blade Runner tasked with hunting down another group of renegade replicants, one of which will be a new Tyrell prototype (the brunette, made by a "new" Tyrell played by Leto). He will follow a similar path as Deckard (falling in love with the prototype as he hunts the others), but in the process he will learn about the story and whereabouts of Deckard and Rachel (possibly from Gaff) and how they disappeared 30 years ago. This will give him some sort of drive to find them to see if they actually did escape and live "happily ever after" (giving him hope he can do the same). In the process there will be some story development that makes Gosling's character question his own humanity, and we eventually discover at the end that he himself is a prototype replicant built to hunt down other replicants (finally bowing to the whole "Decard is a replicant" thing, but without damaging the original film's plot). |
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Damn I can't wait to see this, really hoping they didn't fudge it!
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They just better make it clear that Deckard is NOT a replicant. Makes no mother fucking sense you'd send a weak ass, inferior model against the Nexus 6 replicants. God damn stupid ass premise by Ridley Scott
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There was a discussion somewhere that he wasn't a regular replicant. A special replicant built by Tyrell. Much like Rachel. View Quote |
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They just better make it clear that Deckard is NOT a replicant. Makes no mother fucking sense you'd send a weak ass, inferior model against the Nexus 6 replicants. God damn stupid ass premise by Ridley Scott View Quote "So what you're saying is we have some skinjobs on the loose, one of them is a genuine military genius and skilled in close quarters combat, another is dumb as a box of rocks but stronger than our whole tac team combined, then they got an infiltration model that will spot anyone we send up against them, plus a flirt that they'll use to get resources...and you're telling me you want me to send that Special that Tyrell sent over that doesn't even come close to being a match for any of them in any of their specialties? Sure why not, what could possibly go wrong, right?" |
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Atari and Coke? That's a Coca Cola sign right? https://geeknewsnetwork.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/blade-runner-2049-trailer-2.jpg View Quote |
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Lotsa interesting movies coming out this year.
Sequel to Blade Runner is the one I have my highest hopes for, it was my favorite sci-fi movie ever. |
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With Covenant and Blade Runner both coming out this year maybe we will get to see the stories meet and cross over. There have been hints that they take place in the the same Universe. In the Prometheus extras you can read a letter Weyland wrote about Tyrell and his bad end at the hands of his own creation.
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[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOfi2gxggDM[/youtube]
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That looks pretty good. October 6 is a weird release date. I would have thought Christmas or Summer for that kind of movie. View Quote |
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I can see that meeting in the Captain's office: "So what you're saying is we have some skinjobs on the loose, one of them is a genuine military genius and skilled in close quarters combat, another is dumb as a box of rocks but stronger than our whole tac team combined, then they got an infiltration model that will spot anyone we send up against them, plus a flirt that they'll use to get resources...and you're telling me you want me to send that Special that Tyrell sent over that doesn't even come close to being a match for any of them in any of their specialties? Sure why not, what could possibly go wrong, right?" View Quote |
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Typically odd release dates, like October are for shitty movies that they don't want to release during the major showing dates (Christmas time, Spring). The big movie studios review the movies and set the release dates. They know a turd when they see it. View Quote |
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View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes The movie Soldier starring Kurt Russell also takes place in the same movie universe as Bladerunner.
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Looks good, but I don't like the casting of gosling. He's not believable as a tough guy/action star, imho.
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All evidence says he's not a replicant though. Only and I mean ONLY when the Director's Cut was being released did Ridley Scott say he was a replicant. Until that point he wasn't one. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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There was a discussion somewhere that he wasn't a regular replicant. A special replicant built by Tyrell. Much like Rachel. |
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I think it's because the original got wiped out by E.T.'s box-office debut. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Typically odd release dates, like October are for shitty movies that they don't want to release during the major showing dates (Christmas time, Spring). The big movie studios review the movies and set the release dates. They know a turd when they see it. It did badly at the box office. But it was ahead of its time. It's really an incredible movie. I didn't like it at the box office because of the way it was marketed. |
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The movie Soldier starring Kurt Russell also takes place in the same movie universe as Bladerunner. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Nope. This was a point of contention during filming between Scott and Ford. He said something to the effect of being offended his character was pretty much a toaster IIRC (that and the voiceover). Scott has been hinting publicly about Deckard being a replicant for well over two decades. There's actually video of Scott saying he was at an event like Comicon. The unicorn scene. Implanted. Only replicants dream of the same unicorn scene.... View Quote |
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I don't think that's biologically possible is it? I mean wasn't she a robot? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Looks good. I think that Ryan Gosling is the Deckard and Rachel's Son. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mjiqa-PWGQY I don't think that's biologically possible is it? I mean wasn't she a robot? |
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Anyone read the book? The author was, literally, insane and also on LSD when he wrote it, and a number of his other novels.
And it shows, but ... check out the classic SciFi movies based on his books: Total Recall The Adjustment Bureau Screamers Minority Report Blade Runner The book Blade Runner is based on is titled, Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? |
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Anyone read the book? The author was, literally, insane and also on LSD when he wrote it, and a number of his other novels. And it shows, but ... check out the classic SciFi movies based on his books: Total Recall The Adjustment Bureau Screamers Minority Report Blade Runner The book Blade Runner is based on is titled, Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? View Quote |
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Being that replicant are designed for different purposes maybe Deckard is a deep cover infiltration model. To strong or smart and he sticks out. Tryell slipped him into the police force for some as yet unknown agenda. Deckard may not even know what he is. I would like to see the Zora model again. She didn't get enough time in the original.
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Here's Ridley explaining weather he is or is not a replicant. It's about the Unicorn dream that showed up in the Director's Cut. Ridely Scott
That's all he has and he put that BS in there to sell DVDs. That unicorn meant Gaff knew Rachel was there and let them be together. Gaff made little origami pieces throughout the movie explaining how Deckard felt at that moment. The unicorn represented something hard to find/catch, one of a kind like Rachel. |
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"Do androids" is an ok book except for the action sequences which are absurd. It would have made for a terrible film imo. Phil Dick was not insane nor on lsd when he wrote the novel. He was an intelligent weird fucking guy who at that time was on a lot of speed.
I've read future noir and other stuff about the movie. Whatever is in those books the bottom line is that Scott barely told anyone shit. He says he always intended that Deckard was a replicant....always. He wouldn't give Ford hardly any direction at all and it pissed him off, which is why he's always been a smug dickhead about the film all these years. |
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Lol, Atari is an American Company. View Quote I guess if I half to explain it, it must not be funny. |
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Here's Ridley explaining weather he is or is not a replicant. It's about the Unicorn dream that showed up in the Director's Cut. Ridely Scott That's all he has and he put that BS in there to sell DVDs. That unicorn meant Gaff knew Rachel was there and let them be together. Gaff made little origami pieces throughout the movie explaining how Deckard felt at that moment. The unicorn represented something hard to find/catch, one of a kind like Rachel. View Quote I read the book after I saw the movie. In the movie, the replicants are not mechanical robots. They are almost impossible to detect. Same thing happened with "The man in the high castle". The series and book have a commonality, but the are not the same. |
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I was always struck by Gaff's line at the end after Roy dies. "You've done a man's job/work sir." Seemed like a odd phrase.
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Read the books like "Future Noir The Making of Blade Runner" and get back to me. He was never a replicant. The story itself makes no sense if he's a replicant which is why he's not one in the original book Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep. That unicorn scene didn't exist until the director's cut. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Nope. This was a point of contention during filming between Scott and Ford. He said something to the effect of being offended his character was pretty much a toaster IIRC (that and the voiceover). Scott has been hinting publicly about Deckard being a replicant for well over two decades. There's actually video of Scott saying he was at an event like Comicon. The unicorn scene. Implanted. Only replicants dream of the same unicorn scene.... But because the film was owned by so many interests and Scott was only the director, the studio had a say in how the original was cut. After Ridley got more creative control over the anniversary editions, then that's when he started back with redoing it and putting in various deleted scenes (in addition to some additional do over shit, mostly voice, years later IIRC). there are actually two director's cuts (Director's cut and Final cut). In 1982 there were at least 3 versions. An International one, one with the voice over and one without IIRC. And Philip K. Dick said that Deckard wasn't a replicant. But Scott did say he was. Failed To Load Title |
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