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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:11:55 PM EDT
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Allocated bourbon is serious business, I've been praying for the trend to die so that the market comes back to normal.
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:13:20 PM EDT
[#2]
Buffalo Trace is a good daily sipper but it's not worth that hassle.
Move on to something more readily available. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:14:04 PM EDT
[#3]
Bourbon hipsters are everywhere.
Heck, I drank bourbon before it was cool again. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:15:14 PM EDT
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Yes, good bourbon is sought after like no other liquor in the country. The exclusivity of it is insane. People regularly enter drawings to be allowed to buy liquors at shelf price, which are sold on the “secondary market” for three or ten times that price. If you want to really wonder “WTF” go look what the Blantons and other sought after bottles are sold for online.
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:15:40 PM EDT
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That's fucked up, man. My local sportsbar has Buffalo Trace, and I think a couple of the steakhouses do, too.
I prefer Woodford, so I haven't been paying attention at the stores. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:16:26 PM EDT
[#6]
Rum > Bourbon
Thank me! /Thread |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:16:37 PM EDT
[#7]
I'm glad we don't have that shit here in Tennessee.
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:17:49 PM EDT
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Virginia is similar in that the only place you can buy liquor is state run stores.
There was a scandal a year ago, or so, where a state employee was regularly leaking what stores got what bottles ahead of their release to a guy who bribed him. That guy was then selling memberships for access to the weekly list. People got fired and even went to jail over it, I think. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:18:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rum > Bourbon Thank me! /Thread I bought two bottles of Pussers gunpowder proof British navy rum a few months ago. I wanted to try old style grog. I haven't opened one yet. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:18:40 PM EDT
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The allocated bourbon chase is insane.
Years ago I got an email from liquor barn that they were having their pappy drawing. Something like 1200 bottles for one store. Drive the wife and grabbed a ticket. Won a bottle of 10 year old rip. $70. One guy walked out before us with a bottle of 23 year pappy. He sold it in the parking lot for $3000. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:19:20 PM EDT
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Buffalo trace makes good bourbon, most all of their sub-brands are good to great, especially at their normal MSRP prices.
But they became the darling of the Taters because they make the Pappy Van Winkle products, which are extremely over hyped and sought after, so the trickle down effect of everything else they make being "some such almost as good as Pappy" made the demand skyrocket. And secondly, they really didn't have huge output numbers of their products a few years ago. They recently added more capacity and in a few years they'll be able to return on that, but at their size and the fact they make like 30 different whiskies means they really can't keep up with their newfound popularity for each product. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:21:42 PM EDT
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Damn lol. Both of those are easily available at the World Liquor store in KCMO. Call em. Maybe they can ship you bottle? Idk if your state will allow it.
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:21:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The allocated bourbon chase is insane. Years ago I got an email from liquor barn that they were having their pappy drawing. Something like 1200 bottles for one store. Drive the wife and grabbed a ticket. Won a bottle of 10 year old rip. $70. One guy walked out before us with a bottle of 23 year pappy. He sold it in the parking lot for $3000. That's pretty incredible. I've never seen a store get that much. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:23:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Buffalo Trace is a good daily sipper but it's not worth that hassle. Move on to something more readily available. This. Four roses single barrel and small batch is excellent and readily available. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:24:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's fucked up, man. My local sportsbar has Buffalo Trace, and I think a couple of the steakhouses do, too. I prefer Woodford, so I haven't been paying attention at the stores. Woodford is better than Trace |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:24:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:26:30 PM EDT
[#17]
You should research availability in surrounding states where alcohol is not sold in state run stores.
Here in Houston, Buffalo Trace is a commodity. Walk into a Specs store and you'll most likely see a shelf or two full of it. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:28:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. Four roses single barrel and small batch is excellent and readily available. Four Roses is bottom shelf (literally) here in PA. Figured it for budget/bum booze. So it's pretty good? Lots of that on the shelf here! I feel like I should snap a few pics of the selection at the store and let the experts tell me which to get. I started a thread recently looking for a mixing bourbon and ended up with Woodford Double Oak. However, then a true connoisseur came to my home and said that was way too good to mix. So I'm still trying to figure this game out. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:29:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm glad we don't have that shit here in Tennessee. Ha! Yeah, I have to get a friend in Tennessee to get me certain things when needed. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:29:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm glad we don't have that shit here in Tennessee. Yeah, but until TN allowed wine sales in stores at was pretty messed up. You could only get wine and liquor at a package store but you had to go to a grocery store or convenience store to buy beer. Plus, we can't buy liquor online. Still beats having state liquor stores and allotments, though. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:30:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You should research availability in surrounding states where alcohol is not sold in state run stores. Here in Houston, Buffalo Trace is a commodity. Walk into a Specs store and you'll most likely see a shelf or two full of it. Did that. Jersey stores just over the border told me about the same at PA. Never know when it's coming, sells out quickly, and to call or just show up on the delivery day. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:30:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like to come into bourbon threads just to win them and leave  https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/421435/9555E986-4A59-4F94-BD4B-D40C1B14F5AD_jpe-3112848.JPG Your win streak may be ending. 
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:30:52 PM EDT
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Sorry dude its dumb, I’m in PA too. I used to buy Elmer T Lee as my average bourbon, used to keep 2-3 on hand just because. Then I got busy running a brewery and barely touched liquor or drank at home because of being around alcohol in some form most of the day.
When I finally wanted to relax again with a cocktail was about to open my last bottle of Elmer, I went to try and buy 2-3 more. That’s when I found out that along with covid insanity I couldn’t even get my bourbon of choice anymore. I am happy to drink some Old Forester 1897 and 1910 as well as Turkey Rye 101. New Riff Single Barrel Barrel strength was pretty good last time I got it too. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:31:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The allocated bourbon chase is insane. Years ago I got an email from liquor barn that they were having their pappy drawing. Something like 1200 bottles for one store. Drive the wife and grabbed a ticket. Won a bottle of 10 year old rip. $70. One guy walked out before us with a bottle of 23 year pappy. He sold it in the parking lot for $3000. Yep...I won a 12-year Pappy last year and am still getting offers all the time - about 10 times what I paid for it. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:32:20 PM EDT
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I usually pickup some buffalo trace from Specs, if they have it, when I stop by. Usually 22-24 bucks a bottle and is good stuff.
I also have four roses, four roses small batch, WY whiskey, and some High West bourbon that I like pretty good. Don't really drink enough of it these days, but bourbon doesn't go bad so far as I know |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:32:49 PM EDT
[#26]
Bourbon is over rated. Drink Rye.
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:33:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Four Roses is bottom shelf (literally) here in PA. Figured it for budget/bum booze. So it's pretty good? Lots of that on the shelf here! I feel like I should snap a few pics of the selection at the store and let the experts tell me which to get. I started a thread recently looking for a mixing bourbon and ended up with Woodford Double Oak. However, then a true connoisseur came to my home and said that was way too good to mix. So I'm still trying to figure this game out. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This. Four roses single barrel and small batch is excellent and readily available. Four Roses is bottom shelf (literally) here in PA. Figured it for budget/bum booze. So it's pretty good? Lots of that on the shelf here! I feel like I should snap a few pics of the selection at the store and let the experts tell me which to get. I started a thread recently looking for a mixing bourbon and ended up with Woodford Double Oak. However, then a true connoisseur came to my home and said that was way too good to mix. So I'm still trying to figure this game out. Another vote for Four Roses. Good stuff. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:34:03 PM EDT
[#28]
Bourbon world is insane. You're stuck in the state controlled liquor system so there is really no way to massage the system. I've had buddies who go to 2 or 3 shops, spend money on things other than bourbon and when they get a good bourbon they sample it with the employees - that is how he was able to pull a bunch of highly sought after bottles this bourbon season. Go look into the purple topped bottles of Willet - those things sell for around $100/year of age. Shop told me they bought a barrel that was around $100,000!
If someone could figure out how to take the insanity around bourbon and generate that in another sector of the liquor market, they could make a ton of money. My suggestion - grab a bottle from all the major distilleries because they are all a little different. Buffalo Trace distillery - Buffalo Trace or EH Taylor Small Batch (harder to find) Jim Beam distillery - Knob Creek 9 yr Heaven Hill - Elijah Craig Four Roses - Small Batch Select Old Forester - Old Forester 1910 Wild Turkey - Russel's Reserve 10 yr |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:35:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your win streak may be ending. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/402701/IMG_0105-3112851.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I like to come into bourbon threads just to win them and leave https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/421435/9555E986-4A59-4F94-BD4B-D40C1B14F5AD_jpe-3112848.JPG Your win streak may be ending. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/402701/IMG_0105-3112851.jpg Wahahahahaha! ?? Yup ?? |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:35:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Buffalo Trace is a good daily sipper but it's not worth that hassle. Move on to something more readily available. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:35:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your win streak may be ending. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/402701/IMG_0105-3112851.jpg  
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:36:24 PM EDT
[#32]
Buffalo Trace is good, but there are better bourbons for the same/cheaper price with better availability.
Hipsters caught on to Buffalo Trace and that's why it's scarce....not because it's some fantastic bourbon that everyone has to have. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:37:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Buffalo Trace is a good daily sipper but it's not worth that hassle. Move on to something more readily available. QFT!!! BT isn't worth the hassle when there are plenty of other amazing bourbons sitting on the shelf. Woodford, Bulleit, Maker's 46 and Basil Hayden are always available and should be considered as a standard in any bourbon collection. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:37:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like to come into bourbon threads just to win them and leave https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/421435/9555E986-4A59-4F94-BD4B-D40C1B14F5AD_jpe-3112848.JPG Are you going to drink it or just clean dust off it every few weeks? |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:37:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Buffalo trace makes good bourbon, most all of their sub-brands are good to great, especially at their normal MSRP prices. But they became the darling of the Taters because they make the Pappy Van Winkle products, which are extremely over hyped and sought after, so the trickle down effect of everything else they make being "some such almost as good as Pappy" made the demand skyrocket. And secondly, they really didn't have huge output numbers of their products a few years ago. They recently added more capacity and in a few years they'll be able to return on that, but at their size and the fact they make like 30 different whiskies means they really can't keep up with their newfound popularity for each product. And they even had a storehouse burn down, correct? Or was that a fable? |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:38:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Buffalo Trace is good, but there are better bourbons for the same/cheaper price with better availability. Hipsters caught on to Buffalo Trace and that's why it's scarce....not because it's some fantastic bourbon that everyone has to have. It was pretty scarce once folks heard it was good, back when it was about $20/750ml. Hipsters just take it to a new level. Cousin who was a hipster before it had a name was drinking Evans Williams at about $11/750ml with his girl pant wearing hipster friends back in the day. It was amusing to me 
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:40:06 PM EDT
[#37]
I'm in PA as well and someone told me about the Unicorn Auctions app.
I've used it twice and had the bottles sent me. I won a Weller green and a Bakers 10 for shits and giggles just to see if it worked and it did. Haven't done much with it since, but it is an option. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:40:11 PM EDT
[#38]
when I was drinking I bought Blantons all day long for 49-59 a bottle.
This bourbon craze is interesting and somewhat amusing to watch. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:40:17 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Four Roses is bottom shelf (literally) here in PA. Figured it for budget/bum booze. So it's pretty good? Lots of that on the shelf here! I feel like I should snap a few pics of the selection at the store and let the experts tell me which to get. I started a thread recently looking for a mixing bourbon and ended up with Woodford Double Oak. However, then a true connoisseur came to my home and said that was way too good to mix. So I'm still trying to figure this game out. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This. Four roses single barrel and small batch is excellent and readily available. Four Roses is bottom shelf (literally) here in PA. Figured it for budget/bum booze. So it's pretty good? Lots of that on the shelf here! I feel like I should snap a few pics of the selection at the store and let the experts tell me which to get. I started a thread recently looking for a mixing bourbon and ended up with Woodford Double Oak. However, then a true connoisseur came to my home and said that was way too good to mix. So I'm still trying to figure this game out. The basic Four Roses is ok, small batch is pretty good and the single barrel is very good. The bottom shelf stuff your seeing is probably the basic one. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:40:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Four Roses is bottom shelf (literally) here in PA. Figured it for budget/bum booze. So it's pretty good? Lots of that on the shelf here! I feel like I should snap a few pics of the selection at the store and let the experts tell me which to get. I started a thread recently looking for a mixing bourbon and ended up with Woodford Double Oak. However, then a true connoisseur came to my home and said that was way too good to mix. So I'm still trying to figure this game out. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This. Four roses single barrel and small batch is excellent and readily available. Four Roses is bottom shelf (literally) here in PA. Figured it for budget/bum booze. So it's pretty good? Lots of that on the shelf here! I feel like I should snap a few pics of the selection at the store and let the experts tell me which to get. I started a thread recently looking for a mixing bourbon and ended up with Woodford Double Oak. However, then a true connoisseur came to my home and said that was way too good to mix. So I'm still trying to figure this game out. Four Roses Single Barrel, Small Batch, and Small Batch Select are not bottom shelf. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:40:57 PM EDT
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Not every store in PA gets the harder to find items either. Keep that in mind. They have to be Chairman selection stores or something.
There is one store in my entire county that gets stuff from Buffalo Trace Or anything hard to find. The trucks come on Wednesdays so there is a line Thursday morning and it's all gone within an hour or so. Usually only a couple cases and it's always Eagle Rare, Blantons and buffalo trace. The local bars and other places send workers to stand in line and buy the limit as well. I don't even bother anymore. Not worth the hassle, just as good or better options out there and usually cheaper. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:41:31 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: QFT!!! BT isn't worth the hassle when there are plenty of other amazing bourbons sitting on the shelf. Woodford, Bulleit, Maker's 46 and Basil Hayden are always available and should be considered as a standard in any bourbon collection. Basil Hayden is al excellent choice for a new Bourbon drinker. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:42:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: when I was drinking I bought Blantons all day long for 49-59 a bottle. This bourbon craze is interesting and somewhat amusing to watch. It's crazy how long the craze has lasted. I keep expecting/hoping that the cool kids will move on to something else, but they don't. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:43:29 PM EDT
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If i am going to that much hassle its gonna be for better than buffalo trace.
I typically do woodford double oak. I will probably make a total wine run in the next month or 2 |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:43:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm in PA as well and someone told me about the Unicorn Auctions app. I've used it twice and had the bottles sent me. I won a Weller green and a Bakers 10 for shits and giggles just to see if it worked and it did. Haven't done much with it since, but it is an option. Unicorn Auctions.... I'll have to look into that. No clue what it is or how it'd work but I'm just hoping I develop a fondness for bourbon. lol The tequila world is SOOOO much easier!! 
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:44:00 PM EDT
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Buffalo trace has been pretty readily available around me for a while.
I have not seen it in PA until rifle season this year. What part of the state are you in? If NW, I can probably help you out. Honestly, you find a place a taste a few different kinds. I hate woodford, but plenty love it. I don't care for Weller 107, but I have a buddy that loves it, so I get it for him. Weller Full Proof however, is probably my favorite. I have had pappy, and was not impressed for the price. My most recent favorite is Heaven Hill Bottled in Bond. DAMN GOOD for $50. Everyone is different. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:46:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not every store in PA gets the harder to find items either. Keep that in mind. They have to be Chairman selection stores or something. There is one store in my entire county that gets stuff from Buffalo Trace Or anything hard to find. The trucks come on Wednesdays so there is a line Thursday morning and it's all gone within an hour or so. Usually only a couple cases and it's always Eagle Rare, Blantons and buffalo trace. The local bars and other places send workers to stand in line and buy the limit as well. I don't even bother anymore. Not worth the hassle, just as good or better options out there and usually cheaper. Premium stores is what I was told. I'm in the LV area and we have 4 of them. I just joined the local FB group and right away I'm seeing a good friend with some sort of direct link to the deliveries. Even the bourbon snobs were baffled how he was able to land three Buffalo Trace, two Taylors and a Blantons. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:46:54 PM EDT
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And all the hipsters raving about Buffalo Trace…. it used to be the well bourbon in some of the establishments I frequented.
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:49:13 PM EDT
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The Buffalo Trace Website has an availability page. You can check it daily to see when Blanton's, EH, Eagle Rare or Wellers etc is in stock at the distillery. I know that doesn't help out of towners
but maybe you have family or a friend in the area? |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 4:49:14 PM EDT
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buy a $20 bottle of Early Times and be happy.
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