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Posted: 12/1/2015 9:58:07 PM EST
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It says, he thinks the trigger got caught on part of his jacket.
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Posted: 12/1/2015 10:05:31 PM EST
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Further more, I can't imagine reholstering a pistol unless the threat was stopped, at which point, you can drop that extra bit of security. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Seriously dude, can you turn off auto-correct or manually fix it? This is getting unreadable. Very interesting, the firearms instructor at my old department trained us to clear clothing out of the way and observe as we re-holstered. So your department trained you like garbage, congratulations. Further more, I can't imagine reholstering a pistol unless the threat was stopped, at which point, you can drop that extra bit of security. It would be extremely rare. I'd imagine if you're a cop in the middle of nowhere, and it's not feasible to wait for backup, it could happen. Draw down on someone, they have a change of heart, prone them out, then reholster and cuff them if the situation appears to be under control and you can't wait 30 minutes for backup. But as discussed, you would watch where you're putting your gun that has the power to kill you when you re-holster. |
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Posted: 12/1/2015 10:06:13 PM EST
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is a grip safety or manual safety too hard to implement? 
Most are too smart to need either, until they need it. 
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Posted: 12/1/2015 10:09:27 PM EST
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Statistically, that just doesn't ever happen. Like EVER ever. I would bet that he made it happen, & I would have a 99.99% chance of winning the bet.
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Posted: 12/1/2015 10:10:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It would be extremely rare. I'd imagine if you're a cop in the middle of nowhere, and it's not feasible to wait for backup, it could happen. Draw down on someone, they have a change of heart, prone them out, then reholster and cuff them if the situation appears to be under control and you can't wait 30 minutes for backup. But as discussed, you would watch where you're putting your gun that has the power to kill you when you re-holster. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Seriously dude, can you turn off auto-correct or manually fix it? This is getting unreadable. Very interesting, the firearms instructor at my old department trained us to clear clothing out of the way and observe as we re-holstered. So your department trained you like garbage, congratulations. Further more, I can't imagine reholstering a pistol unless the threat was stopped, at which point, you can drop that extra bit of security. It would be extremely rare. I'd imagine if you're a cop in the middle of nowhere, and it's not feasible to wait for backup, it could happen. Draw down on someone, they have a change of heart, prone them out, then reholster and cuff them if the situation appears to be under control and you can't wait 30 minutes for backup. But as discussed, you would watch where you're putting your gun that has the power to kill you when you re-holster.  |
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Posted: 12/1/2015 10:11:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If only there was some kind of manual safety switch that could prevent this, or maybe some kind of safety device released only by a firm grip on the weapon. |
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Posted: 12/1/2015 10:11:33 PM EST
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I kind of feel bad for him. Why make a guy who hates guns carry one as a coroner. Greg Shore, Coroner of Anderson County, SC. That's who!
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Posted: 12/1/2015 10:11:55 PM EST
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Sure, it just went off... Fucker caught on something during reholster. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Normally that something is a FINGER |
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Posted: 12/1/2015 10:12:03 PM EST
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http://m.wyff4.com/news/deputy-coroner-injured-after-gun-fires-in-holster-coroner-says/36744090 Shore said Chief Deputy Coroner Charlie Boseman suffered an injury after his gun went off in his holster during a morning training scenario. Boseman was taken to the hospital where he was treated at AnMed Health after the bullet of a 40-caliber Glock grazed his right thigh, according to Shore. The injury required a few stitches, and Boseman was using crutches to get around, Shore said. Because of the accident, Boseman did not get recertified, and will not be able to carry a handgun until he goes through required a gun safety training program, Shore said. “Charlie doesn’t like to carry a gun,” Shore said. “But it’s the policy of the Coroner’s Office for all employees to be certified to carry one, because of the people and places they encounter, especially at night I found the primary problem. the GSW to the leg was the secondary... |
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Posted: 12/1/2015 10:15:55 PM EST
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Israeli carry for Charlie going forward.
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Posted: 12/1/2015 10:19:47 PM EST
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If only there was some kind of manual safety switch that could prevent this, or maybe some kind of safety device released only by a firm grip on the weapon. Or an electronic radio transmitter devise that only enables the firing pin if in proximity of the power ranger ring of its owner 
Or better yet, let the people that build the Air Bus modify it.
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Posted: 12/1/2015 10:20:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bullshit, unless some piece of clothing got in the holster and set off the trigger or it wasn't a rigid holster. It's happened. |
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Posted: 12/1/2015 10:22:16 PM EST
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They might need to arrest the Sheriff. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I kind of feel bad for him. Why make a guy who hates guns carry one as a coroner. They might need to arrest the Sheriff. Or modify the song "I Shot the Sheriff" to "The Sheriff Shot His Owndumbass"
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Posted: 12/1/2015 10:22:27 PM EST
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People can't read.
“Charlie was wearing a jacket, and he thinks the trigger got held up on part of his jacket,” Shore said. Probably a draw string. |
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Posted: 12/1/2015 10:23:57 PM EST
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I don't have to worry about this problem with my HK. Don't seem to have any problems with my carry guns either but then again I kind of like thumb safeties, grip safeties, and decockers You know all that dumb shit you don't need.
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Posted: 12/1/2015 10:26:26 PM EST
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Bullshit, unless some piece of clothing got in the holster and set off the trigger or it wasn't a rigid holster. This...or it was his finger. |
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Posted: 12/1/2015 10:35:51 PM EST
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WE all begged to carry when I worked for the OCME
Liberal NYC native doctor making policy kept that from happening. 
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Posted: 12/1/2015 10:37:02 PM EST
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Bullshit, unless some piece of clothing got in the holster and set off the trigger or it wasn't a rigid holster. This. I can almost guarantee he reholstered with his finger still on the trigger. |
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Posted: 12/1/2015 10:45:45 PM EST
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My Kramer IWB holsters have metal reinforcement to prevent THAT from ever happening. Great holsters. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm reminded of the case of the worn JAK slide: http://i64.tinypic.com/2z9lbon.jpg http://i66.tinypic.com/263alht.jpg http://i63.tinypic.com/nwlpoy.jpg http://i68.tinypic.com/23rpllf.jpg Fuuu.... I was thinking about a nice new leather IWB holster for when my CCWD gets here I may rethink that My Kramer IWB holsters have metal reinforcement to prevent THAT from ever happening. Great holsters. I'll definitely check those out, thanks |
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Posted: 12/1/2015 10:46:44 PM EST
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I don't know why people abandoned manual safeties. They figured out that manual safeties were an asset over a hundred years ago.
And I don't buy all the bullshit about forgetting to flick off the safety in a high stress situation. You going to forget to pull the trigger, too? It's no more of a fine motor skill than a trigger pull. |
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Posted: 12/1/2015 10:58:36 PM EST
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I kind of feel bad for him. Why make a guy who hates guns carry one as a coroner. This. He'll only half-ass the safety and training, as evidenced by what happened. |
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Posted: 12/1/2015 11:09:27 PM EST
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Of course the officer could just carry a weapon that has a REAL FUCKING SAFETY too, but that seems to be beside the point around here.
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Seriously dude, can you turn off auto-correct or manually fix it? This is getting unreadable. Very interesting, the firearms instructor at my old department trained us to clear clothing out of the way and observe as we re-holstered. So your department trained you like garbage, congratulations. Further more, I can't imagine reholstering a pistol unless the threat was stopped, at which point, you can drop that extra bit of security. It would be extremely rare. I'd imagine if you're a cop in the middle of nowhere, and it's not feasible to wait for backup, it could happen. Draw down on someone, they have a change of heart, prone them out, then reholster and cuff them if the situation appears to be under control and you can't wait 30 minutes for backup. But as discussed, you would watch where you're putting your gun that has the power to kill you when you re-holster.
Don't own any revolvers do ya, champ? |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 1:01:18 AM EST
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I don't know why people abandoned manual safeties. They figured out that manual safeties were an asset over a hundred years ago. And I don't buy all the bullshit about forgetting to flick off the safety in a high stress situation. You going to forget to pull the trigger, too? It's no more of a fine motor skill than a trigger pull. Yep |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 1:02:30 AM EST
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Don't own any revolvers do ya, champ? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Seriously dude, can you turn off auto-correct or manually fix it? This is getting unreadable. Very interesting, the firearms instructor at my old department trained us to clear clothing out of the way and observe as we re-holstered. So your department trained you like garbage, congratulations. Further more, I can't imagine reholstering a pistol unless the threat was stopped, at which point, you can drop that extra bit of security. It would be extremely rare. I'd imagine if you're a cop in the middle of nowhere, and it's not feasible to wait for backup, it could happen. Draw down on someone, they have a change of heart, prone them out, then reholster and cuff them if the situation appears to be under control and you can't wait 30 minutes for backup. But as discussed, you would watch where you're putting your gun that has the power to kill you when you re-holster.
Don't own any revolvers do ya, champ? I do and a revolver has a MUCH stiffer trigger pull. MUCH STIFFER. Sorry this is a stupid argument. |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 2:42:44 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's happened. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Bullshit, unless some piece of clothing got in the holster and set off the trigger or it wasn't a rigid holster. It's happened. I've talked to instructors who have complained of people having the fabric and drawstrings of windbreakers getting caught inside holsters and who recommend cutting off jacket drawstrings. Personally since I'm not a cop and I'm not handcuffing someone I don't worry too much about "speed reholstering" Yeah maybe I'm chasing someone who just stole the only Apple TV remote and I have to quickly reholster to climb a fence, meh if I'm at the range with a winter jacket I don't quickly stuff my gun back in the holster |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 2:56:36 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So its not safe to re holster a block while keeping your eyes on the suspect like all cops are trained to do? They should all be withdrawn from serviçe Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: is a grip safety or manual safety too hard to implement? For blockmany people, even those who have rifles with switches, buttons, and levers of many descriptions, Yes , manual safetypaying the fuck attention to your fucking gun as you reholster is terrifyingly complicated to operate. FIFY So its not safe to re holster a block while keeping your eyes on the suspect like all cops are trained to do? They should all be withdrawn from serviçe Course I still see cops with issue Serpa holsters and even fobus so whatever I guess. I somewhat agree that glocks are a problematic choice for law enforcement. |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 2:59:04 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know why people abandoned manual safeties. They figured out that manual safeties were an asset over a hundred years ago. And I don't buy all the bullshit about forgetting to flick off the safety in a high stress situation. You going to forget to pull the trigger, too? It's no more of a fine motor skill than a trigger pull. |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 3:15:02 AM EST
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Brass to face. Lodged between her glasses and eye and burned the shit out of her. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I kind of feel bad for him. Why make a guy who hates guns carry one as a coroner. When I worked for the ME's office I had to carry and qualify. One of the pathologists burned her cornea when she got 9mm BTF during her qual. BTF? Help me out here. Brass to face. Lodged between her glasses and eye and burned the shit out of her. Glock perfection.
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Posted: 12/2/2015 3:44:28 AM EST
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I choose to carry a DA/SA pistol at work and away from it.
Situations other than clothing have made me reaffirm my choice. |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 4:04:38 AM EST
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before I look at the link: fat fuck with his fat fuck shirt in the holster.
eta; ok, not fat. i am dissapint. |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 4:07:48 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I choose to carry a DA/SA pistol at work and away from it. Situations other than clothing have made me reaffirm my choice. Edit I can see carrying the same thing all the time if you have to at work . Some dept of state guys who were issued sigs are the only people I have seen with da/sa in ages |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 4:11:44 AM EST
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Bullshit, unless some piece of clothing got in the holster and set off the trigger or it wasn't a rigid holster. The article says he thought a part of his jacket got caught up in his trigger. |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 4:14:03 AM EST
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Like what? Edit I can see carrying the same thing all the time if you have to at work . Some dept of state guys who were issued sigs are the only people I have seen with da/sa in ages Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I choose to carry a DA/SA pistol at work and away from it. Situations other than clothing have made me reaffirm my choice. Edit I can see carrying the same thing all the time if you have to at work . Some dept of state guys who were issued sigs are the only people I have seen with da/sa in ages I have only owned Glocks for a couple of years now..........but a lot of other semi autos I own don't have a safety........like a Sig P239, Seecamp or MP from S&W, etc. What is the difference with Glocks everyone always blasts them about? |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 4:22:56 AM EST
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We are forbidden to wear jackets with a bungee cord toggle on the waistband to the range. Someone was able to holster their gun with the toggle inside the trigger guard. When they pulled on the bungee after holstering, the gun fired. Yes, it was a Glock This. I cut them out. One night I was holstering my G17 and it felt kind of funny. Sure enough, that chord tightener was right in there. Glad I felt it. |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 4:35:12 AM EST
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"Charlie was wearing a jacket, and he thinks the trigger got held up on part of his jacket,” |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 4:39:22 AM EST
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"Charlie was wearing a jacket, and he thinks the trigger got held up on part of his jacket,” For some reason Glocks have gotten a bad reputation for this sort of thing and I don't know why other than to think there are ALOT of Glocks out there and the chances for this sort of thing happening is more likely due to their sheer numbers. |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 4:48:48 AM EST
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For some reason Glocks have gotten a bad reputation for this sort of thing and I don't know why other than to think there are ALOT of Glocks out there and the chances for this sort of thing happening is more likely due to their sheer numbers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"Charlie was wearing a jacket, and he thinks the trigger got held up on part of his jacket,” For some reason Glocks have gotten a bad reputation for this sort of thing and I don't know why other than to think there are ALOT of Glocks out there and the chances for this sort of thing happening is more likely due to their sheer numbers. They were THE striker fire pistol for a long time. You really didn't see other guns without manual safeties unless they were DAwith a decocker or a revolver. They catch the heat because they're the most widely carried. |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 4:48:50 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: People can't read."Charlie was wearing a jacket, and he thinks the trigger got held up on part of his jacket,” Shore said. This is not only possible, but it's been documented before. I'm sure there will be an investigation. What about assuming he's NOT fucking guilty, until it's been PROVEN??? Bunch of fucking asshole armchair quarterbacks in GD. As always.  |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 4:51:37 AM EST
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This is not only possible, but it's been documented before. I'm sure there will be an investigation. What about assuming he's NOT fucking guilty, until it's been PROVEN??? Bunch of fucking asshole armchair quarterbacks in GD. As always.
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"Charlie was wearing a jacket, and he thinks the trigger got held up on part of his jacket,” Shore said. This is not only possible, but it's been documented before. I'm sure there will be an investigation. What about assuming he's NOT fucking guilty, until it's been PROVEN??? Bunch of fucking asshole armchair quarterbacks in GD. As always.
You're awful emotional. You this guys buddy or something? |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 4:52:10 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I kind of feel bad for him. Why make a guy who hates guns carry one as a coroner. |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 4:59:44 AM EST
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We are forbidden to wear jackets with a bungee cord toggle on the waistband to the range. Someone was able to holster their gun with the toggle inside the trigger guard. When they pulled on the bungee after holstering, the gun fired. Yes, it was a Glock If you carry a gun you have to cut the cord lock off your jackets on the strong side. I just traded for an Arc'terx and I've yet to do this. I'm getting the pliers out after I type this. |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 5:03:51 AM EST
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I kind of feel bad for him. Why make a guy who hates guns carry one as a coroner. There was a similar requirement in NYS until recently for some positions in the probation dept Our county worked to get it overturned Being armed was too stressful for people who got hired to save the downtrodden from themselves |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 5:13:35 AM EST
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............. They were THE striker fire pistol for a long time. You really didn't see other guns without manual safeties unless they were DAwith a decocker or a revolver. They catch the heat because they're the most widely carried. Yeah that's probably all it is..........it's just a numbers thing. |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 5:31:05 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sound like its county policy and probably in the county mou. If he didn't want to carry a gun he should look elsewhere for some other kind of work. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I kind of feel bad for him. Why make a guy who hates guns carry one as a coroner. Sound like its county policy and probably in the county mou. If he didn't want to carry a gun he should look elsewhere for some other kind of work. |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 5:31:21 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So its not safe to re holster a block while keeping your eyes on the suspect like all cops are trained to do? They should all be withdrawn from serviçe Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: is a grip safety or manual safety too hard to implement? For blockmany people, even those who have rifles with switches, buttons, and levers of many descriptions, Yes , manual safetypaying the fuck attention to your fucking gun as you reholster is terrifyingly complicated to operate. FIFY So its not safe to re holster a block while keeping your eyes on the suspect like all cops are trained to do? They should all be withdrawn from serviçe |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 5:34:22 AM EST
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Desk pop
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Posted: 12/2/2015 5:36:27 AM EST
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I kind of feel bad for him. Why make a guy who hates guns carry one as a coroner. Yeah, I don't get why he must carry one. Aren't crime scenes where the coroner is involved usually swarmed with cops? |
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Posted: 12/2/2015 5:37:28 AM EST
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Yeah that's probably all it is..........it's just a numbers thing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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............. They were THE striker fire pistol for a long time. You really didn't see other guns without manual safeties unless they were DAwith a decocker or a revolver. They catch the heat because they're the most widely carried. Yeah that's probably all it is..........it's just a numbers thing. I ccan't tell if you're being sarcastic.
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Posted: 12/2/2015 5:40:57 AM EST
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I'm betting there was more than the gun inside that holster, e.g., a finger.
Edit: Yeah, should have kept reading. Apparently loose clothing.
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Posted: 12/2/2015 5:41:48 AM EST
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............. I ccan't tell if you're being sarcastic. Nah, this time I am serious. With my track record here I can see why you ask.
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