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Quoted: Ship in question: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/214740/IMG_8438-3169709.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/214740/IMG_8439-3169710.jpg View Quote That is a ship of significant size. Not among the largest, but still a massive and heavy ship. |
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Quoted: The traffic pretty much stopped crossing just before impact so there was some type of warning. Mb construction workers saved lives by blocking traffic. Watch closely. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Longer video that shows the "before." Certainly seems that it steered right into the support column. Bridge went down immediately. link
The traffic pretty much stopped crossing just before impact so there was some type of warning. Mb construction workers saved lives by blocking traffic. Watch closely. I noticed the lack of traffic immediately before the event too. There was a decent amount of cars and semis prior to that. If they were able to stop traffic I hope they were able to save themselves too Though that would take some incredible situational awareness. Who looks at boats going under bridges and verifies they're clear of supports? |
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Quoted: Fuck. A couple of things I think I see here: First, there is no smoke coming from that ship in the very beginning. It looks like they really gave it everything it had, based on the volume of smoke. Second, they turned directly into the bridge support - but seemed to try to turn away just before impact. View Quote The lights go off on the ship before the crash. That indicates something, don't know what. |
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Or was it on purpose with intent to disrupt our infrastructure?
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Lights went out then came back on the ship, maybe a power/mechanical failure caused the ship to lose steering. Interesting to see if there were any comms from the ship prior.
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Quoted: Longer video that shows the "before." Certainly seems that it steered right into the support column. Bridge went down immediately. link
View Quote That damn near looks intentional. |
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I already avoid large bridges when possible. This is terrible
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Baltimore is a major port on the east coast, this will screw things up for a while.
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Quoted: They were far from where they should have been and the hit looks dead center on the support. It makes you suspicious but the fact that it happened in the middle of the night would not seem to be what a terrorist would do if they had another option. However, I guess if it was intentional whomever hijacked the ship would have to work with the ships sailing schedule and not be able to pick a time of day that would result in maximum casualties. View Quote Bingo. |
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Quoted: Longer video that shows the "before." Certainly seems that it steered right into the support column. Bridge went down immediately. link
View Quote Damn. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Longer video that shows the "before." Certainly seems that it steered right into the support column. Bridge went down immediately. link
That damn near looks intentional. Looks like at least four cars. The light seem to be flashing. Last truck and car across looked normal. Wondering if those were police cars that were alerted about the ship and trying to block the path forward? Kind of hard to believe they couldn't throw the anchor down if there was some type of problem and they had time to alert emergency services though I know nothing of large ships. I suppose the only "good thing" is this happened around midnight so I assume less traffic than midday. |
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Quoted: No kidding. Some may remember the Sunshine Skyway bridge disaster down in Tampa Bay, late 80s I guess. I wasn't there for it, but rode across the replacement span at night before the original was taken down, and it scared the shit out of me seeing the end where it broke off, in the dark it was like a horror movie scene. I get sweaty palms driving across large bridges all the time. View Quote A Collision of Guilt: The Sunshine Skyway Bridge Collapse |
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Baltimore, Maryland USA | StreamTime LIVE |
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Damn, this is not going to be good. Not an engineer, but that seems like a poor bridge design.
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Prayers to families for those lost on the bridge. This is a whopping mess.
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The lights going out means power failure which means steering failure. There may have been some incompetence also by intending to pass too close to the pier to have time to restore steering in the event of a problem. There's no reason to think terrorism.
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Just saw a video of it. That bridge got scratched. Can't wait to hear the details.
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Congress and Biden will just send more money to Ukraine and Israel.
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deleted posters are saying this is not the bridge in question. I was taken off at one of the Twitter news feed comments.
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Lmfao that’s a bridge in Ukraine from a year+ ago Doesn’t even look like the same bridge dude. Don’t go on the internet if you can’t use your brain. |
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@Gloworm19 referenced chart NOAA 12278, and while I'm no mariner, this isn't making any fucking sense to me.
Here's the chart. The long video was taken from the Northwest of the bridge. I know this because the right pier for the main span, the powerline tower (with lighted top) is in front, and Fort Carrol is in the background. Here's a screenshot from Google Earth to show roughly how they all line up: Now go back and look at the long video. The ship makes a hard right, bringing it directly toward the camera. If we estimate that the ship was about 30º from heading at the camera to begin with, that puts it coming from Sollers Point Shoal - nowhere near any channel. What's more... Sollers Point Shoal has a sounding of like 7' in most places - and that ship has a draught of 12.2m. Again, I'm nowhere near an expert in this area, but I can read a damned map. I don't see how it's possible that ship was where it was by accident. ETA: Image links aren't working not sure why. I'm pretty sure I've uploaded PNGs here before... |
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Quoted: In the longer video, the lights of the ship dim/go out at 33 seconds. They seem to come back on at 50 seconds. The ship makes impact around 1:35 and the collapse begins around 1:37. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The lights go off after the ship hits the bridge and the span falls on it. In the longer video, the lights of the ship dim/go out at 33 seconds. They seem to come back on at 50 seconds. The ship makes impact around 1:35 and the collapse begins around 1:37. Note also that the longer video is at 2x speed. |
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Major disruption to both the port and traffic. I bet the markets will be in turmoil today.
the Port of Baltimore generates nearly $3.3 billion in total personal income and supports 15,330 direct jobs and 139,180 jobs connected to Port work. The Port also generates more than $395 million in taxes and $2.6 billion in business income. It serves over 50 ocean carriers making nearly 1,800 annual visits View Quote I wonder how long it will take them to clear the channel of debris? Is the Key Bridge the hazmat truck route for I-95 through Baltimore as well? |
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Quoted: @Gloworm19 referenced chart NOAA 12278, and while I'm no mariner, this isn't making any fucking sense to me. Here's the chart. The long video was taken from the Northwest of the bridge. I know this because the right pier for the main span, the powerline tower (with lighted top) is in front, and Fort Carrol is in the background. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/74968/Screenshot_2024-03-26_at_3_22_06 Here's a screenshot from Google Earth to show roughly how they all line up: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/74968/Screenshot_2024-03-26_at_3_24_51 Now go back and look at the long video. The ship makes a hard right, bringing it directly toward the camera. If we estimate that the ship was about 30 from heading at the camera to begin with, that puts it coming from Sollers Point Shoal - nowhere near any channel. What's more... Sollers Point Shoal has a sounding of like 7' in most places - and that ship has a draught of 12.2m. Again, I'm nowhere near an expert in this area, but I can read a damned map. I don't see how it's possible that ship was where it was by accident. ETA: Image links aren't working not sure why. I'm pretty sure I've uploaded PNGs here before... View Quote |
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