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Link Posted: 9/24/2019 5:38:25 PM EST
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Yes, replace them with Republicans rather than democrats who run as Republicans to get elected.
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Can you think of a faster way of getting republicans to start actually supporting the 2A?
Yes, replace them with Republicans rather than democrats who run as Republicans to get elected.
That’s part of it, but It will be another 4 years before that is even possible for the presidency. And in the meantime we have gun owners swearing to support republican gun grabbers.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 5:38:51 PM EST
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Just remember folks, Republicans often fold. Democrats? Never.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 5:39:05 PM EST
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If there was information about Obama talking to a foreign leader about dirt on a potential Republican opponent. We'd be losing our minds about it.
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Obama did do that.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 5:39:14 PM EST
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" Inquiry "
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 5:42:00 PM EST
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Yes, of course.  See Slick Willie.
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If he is impeached by Congress but not the Senate can he run in 2020?
Yes, of course.  See Slick Willie.
Wow so many people here have no idea what impeachment is ...

Yes, odd are very high right now that he is going to be impeached . I'm not sure what the 84% or so of you are thinking

Only congress can impeach , then the senate has to convict .

He will not be convicted in the senate .
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 5:44:46 PM EST
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Sure he will. Only takes a majority in the House to Impeach, Dems have that even with the decenters. The Senate won’t convict as it takes 60 votes. The thing is this just became the leading campaign issue not only for Trump but for every Senator running for re-election.

Who cares what Democrats running for President have to say. Trump was impeached. Republicans will have zero response and any any issue they try to raise will be drowned out by the impeachment.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 5:46:17 PM EST
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So you're suggesting everyone should vote ourselves into a national "California" to show those Republicans that bumpstocks was a bad idea for them.  Because there is a viable idea that the Democrats will be grateful to gun owners for helping elect them and roll back anything?  Because I'm pretty sure I haven't heard anything from any Democrat that suggests anything of the sort.  Of course, I'm in California where there is no viable alternative to the Democrats at this point so maybe I don't seem them as open mindedly as some.
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Pointing out how you guys swearing to support trump are supporting his gun grabbing, but would fight against a dem doing the same thing.
So you're suggesting everyone should vote ourselves into a national "California" to show those Republicans that bumpstocks was a bad idea for them.  Because there is a viable idea that the Democrats will be grateful to gun owners for helping elect them and roll back anything?  Because I'm pretty sure I haven't heard anything from any Democrat that suggests anything of the sort.  Of course, I'm in California where there is no viable alternative to the Democrats at this point so maybe I don't seem them as open mindedly as some.
No I am saying don’t reward republican gun grabbers with votes. Democrats will always be Democrat’s but unless you want more republican gun grabbers we need to show them that actions have consequences.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 5:47:56 PM EST
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Care to share the Diane Feinstein laughing GIF after Trump made the statement "Take the guns first!"

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I'm glad you asked! I routinely write and call my local and fed representatives as well as assist with a local GOP group. What I've seen is a lack of giving a fuck from most gun owners and conservatives whenever trump does or says anything anti gun. The "meh" attitude has led me to the conclusion that, unless Trump gets shitcanned in 2020, most gun owners won't care if Trump signs an AWB or any form of gun control.
I can see being upset about the bumpstock ban, I tell you what...If Trump signs a AWB I am off the Trump train.

However until that happens he has my vote, so if we get a AWB between now and 2020 you can say you told me so.
I bet you won't vote for a Democrat though.
Of course not, who in their right mind would vote for Democrats/communist cock suckers.
Well Dodge Dakota and papabear1868 would be 2.
You'd be right too. But hey even though they both would vote for the DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST EXTREMISTS PARTY.

That have openingly stated they want to BAN and or CONFISCATE gun.

They are both strong supporters of the 2nd ADMENDMENT and very progun. Again https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/94613/Onthefloorlaffing-152751.gif sorry can't help myself.
Care to share the Diane Feinstein laughing GIF after Trump made the statement "Take the guns first!"

What are you laughing about. Nothing you've said is funny or changed my mind or the many others about your idiotic POLITICAL views.

It's almost as if you are pushing some kind of ADGENDA of your own here.

To turn members here on this forum against PRESIDENT TRUMP and even the Republican Conservative Party.

You give yourself way more credit than you think you deserve.

Stayed or stay home can't remember and didn't vote or vote DEMOCRAT in a statement of one of your posts.

Vote for DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST EXTREMISTS PARTY to light the fire under the Republican party.

That's about the STUPIDEST thing I've ever seen anyone post on arfcom.

You just keep rambling off anti Republican sediment and PRO DEMOCRAT rants.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 5:47:58 PM EST
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Seems to me they are climbing way out on a limb given they don't even know what was discussed.  If I'm understanding things correctly, this is all based on a 2nd (or 3rd) hand account, written into a report, that they haven't seen yet.  Now the POTUS is going to release the actual transcript of the call after they've shown their cards.

They either have a hidden ace or they are about to look really stupid (again).

One thing that puzzles me:  the POTUS knows his calls are being recorded and listened to, both by our own people (records) or foreign governments.  Would he really do what they are suggesting he did knowing it is all being listened to?  This is the same guy who prefers to use paper in lieu of email...
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 5:48:34 PM EST
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So they impeach and he'll probably still give them more gun control.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 5:48:43 PM EST
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Wow so many people here have no idea what impeachment is ...

Yes, odd are very high right now that he is going to be impeached . I'm not sure what the 84% or so of you are thinking

Only congress can impeach , then the senate has to convict .

He will not be convicted in the senate .
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It won't even get as far as impeachment. There is a reason this resolution wasn't put on the House floor. This is grandstanding appeasement and nothing more.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 5:49:55 PM EST
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Well, the corrupt as shit Senate Select Committee on Intelligence has weighed in and they're "concerned" and want to investigate.  DO NOT TRUST THE GOPe ON THIS!



This simply means the full unfurling of this new approach to impeachment.  On the House side they need it to gain access to the full Muh-Mueller report including grand jury information...that will be promptly leaked publicly.

What does this tell you about the information (not necessarily the accountability that will occur) included in the upcoming FISA report?  The Dems are willing to burn it all to distract the public from what is coming.

If they know they are going to lose moderates by doing this why do it?
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 5:50:39 PM EST
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Sure he will. Only takes a majority in the House to Impeach, Dems have that even with the decenters. The Senate won't convict as it takes 60 votes. The thing is this just became the leading campaign issue not only for Trump but for every Senator running for re-election.

Who cares what Democrats running for President have to say. Trump was impeached. Republicans will have zero response and any any issue they try to raise will be drowned out by the impeachment.
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Yep and the reason why they waited so long to do it.

This will affect the low information voters as all they will hear is Trump was impeached.

Some will not vote or might stay home because they have no clue what impeached really means.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 5:53:33 PM EST
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Welp. Congrats, you got the 2020 Ignore List started early.
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Gun owners are voting for a guy who has passed more gun control in 3 years than Obama did in 8. He clearly doesn't care about the 2A and will listen to any insane idea that Ivanka whispers in his ear.

You really trust a lame duck Trump to not do damage to gun rights when he already knows 90% of them will vote for his reelection no matter how much damage he causes?
Welp. Congrats, you got the 2020 Ignore List started early.
Heyyyy not a bad idea. I can't stand LIBERALS pretending to be progun and shouting don't vote or vote DEMOCRAT to teach the Republican party a lesson.

I'm hitting the ignore button
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 5:55:02 PM EST
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Seems to me they are climbing way out on a limb given they don't even know what was discussed.  If I'm understanding things correctly, this is all based on a 2nd (or 3rd) hand account, written into a report, that they haven't seen yet.  Now the POTUS is going to release the actual transcript of the call after they've shown their cards.

They either have a hidden ace or they are about to look really stupid (again).

One thing that puzzles me:  the POTUS knows his calls are being recorded and listened to, both by our own people (records) or foreign governments.  Would he really do what they are suggesting he did knowing it is all being listened to?  This is the same guy who prefers to use paper in lieu of email...
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The democrats actually have a very good strategy. They are banking on people only reading headlines and not seeking technical details. That tips elections, since these people are very superficial.

There aren't very many room-temperature democrats (the majority) who seek facts, technical debate, and reason. History to them started a couple of years ago. Therefore, anything goes.  Most of them are lizard brain emotional wrecks.

Unlike you, I do not concern myself with having faith in the voters. The IQs in this country have been dropping for a long time and the tide is coming in.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 5:55:03 PM EST
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This thread delivers.
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I think you’ll be clicking like crazy 4 months from now  for an entire year. It’s only gonna get worse
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Welp. Congrats, you got the 2020 Ignore List started early.
I think you’ll be clicking like crazy 4 months from now  for an entire year. It’s only gonna get worse
Probably right
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 5:56:45 PM EST
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A few things...

This recorded phone call. Where is the warrant?  If there was no warrant then they are spying on Trump illegally.  Which means the SCOTUS would easily find "Fruit of the Poisoned Tree" and intervene and nullify Trump being removed from office.  As it has been pointed out to me in prior threads, SCOTUS has already ruled that a president can't be impeached because he did something bad. It must be criminal and all proper legal requirements must be upheld.  Spying without a warrant = not proper.

In any case, they are still spying on Trump.

Nobody has seen the whistleblower's report or statements. The whistleblower reportedly wasn't present during the conversation which means Trump was probably unmasked at a later time.  The whistleblower is reported to be a democrat party operative.

The democrats are already moving the goal posts.  Yesterday there was a quid pro quo.  Today if Trump just made a request it is impeacheable. The democrats apparently don't care that Trump is releasing the transcript. They are going to base all of their investigation on the partisan whistleblower's accusations.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 5:56:57 PM EST
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Another one got triggered LOL

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Gun owners are voting for a guy who has passed more gun control in 3 years than Obama did in 8. He clearly doesn't care about the 2A and will listen to any insane idea that Ivanka whispers in his ear.

You really trust a lame duck Trump to not do damage to gun rights when he already knows 90% of them will vote for his reelection no matter how much damage he causes?
Welp. Congrats, you got the 2020 Ignore List started early.
Another one got triggered LOL

Two smart members that knows when they see it.

Done and gone. This is a NEVER TRUMPER thread not a discussion on the impeachment.

I mean PRESIDENTIAL COUP ATTEMPT by the CORRUPTED DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST EXTREMISTS PARTY.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 5:57:42 PM EST
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Wow so many people here have no idea what impeachment is ...

Yes, odd are very high right now that he is going to be impeached . I'm not sure what the 84% or so of you are thinking

Only congress can impeach , then the senate has to convict .

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Exactly. That's why impeachment has always been seen as a political benefit to Trump. Fires up his base, puts Trump in a siege mentality, etc.

The Democrats are doing this because their progressive base demands it. The majority of Americans overall oppose it, and the "average" American opposes it by an even wider margin.

Unless something absolutely crazy comes out, this is simply Pelosi giving in to the vocal fringe of her party. Can you imagine what the idiot protesters are going to look like in D.C. if the Dems really do this? I think the lunatic protesters and drama-queen Dems will be very off-putting to your average American. That's a major benefit to Trump.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 5:59:58 PM EST
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That's part of it, but It will be another 4 years before that is even possible for the presidency. And in the meantime we have gun owners swearing to support republican gun grabbers.
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Well, that's the ultimate goal and the only real solution to this problem long term.

For the time being, we do what we can with what we have which, sadly, means supporting some people who aren't 100% on 2A issues.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 6:00:21 PM EST
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A few things...

This recorded phone call. Where is the warrant?  If there was no warrant then they are spying on Trump illegally.  Which means the SCOTUS would easily find "Fruit of the Poisoned Tree" and intervene and nullify Trump being removed from office.  As it has been pointed out to me in prior threads, SCOTUS has already ruled that a president can't be impeached because he did something bad. It must be criminal and all proper legal requirements must be upheld.  Spying without a warrant = not proper.

In any case, they are still spying on Trump.

Nobody has seen the whistleblower's report or statements. The whistleblower reportedly wasn't present during the conversation which means Trump was probably unmasked at a later time.  The whistleblower is reported to be a democrat party operative.

The democrats are already moving the goal posts.  Yesterday there was a quid pro quo.  Today if Trump just made a request it is impeacheable. The democrats apparently don't care that Trump is releasing the transcript. They are going to base all of their investigation on the partisan whistleblower's accusations.
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It would fall under the Presidential Records Act
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 6:04:41 PM EST
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Well, it appears you came to the right place then.....
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I know.  It's actually pretty hard to get me to ignore someone.  They just about have to go full retard.
Well, it appears you came to the right place then.....
I’ve smoked dope, chewed rope, danced, French romanced, fucked, farted, fought, shot the moon and drove big trucks. I’ve been to Janesville Maine, Spain, Spokane and Fort Wayne, seen three world fairs, been around the world twice, looked danger in the face and seen 2 goats fuck in the marketplace, but I ain’t never seen no shit like the shit that goes on around this place.

Link Posted: 9/24/2019 6:05:30 PM EST
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Trump in a siege mentality means releasing all sorts of shit like how the Dems tried to frame him.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 6:06:50 PM EST
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Well, the corrupt as shit Senate Select Committee on Intelligence has weighed in and they're "concerned" and want to investigate.  DO NOT TRUST THE GOPe ON THIS!

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This simply means the full unfurling of this new approach to impeachment.  On the House side they need it to gain access to the full Muh-Mueller report including grand jury information...that will be promptly leaked publicly.

What does this tell you about the information (not necessarily the accountability that will occur) included in the upcoming FISA report?  The Dems are willing to burn it all to distract the public from what is coming.

If they know they are going to lose moderates by doing this why do it?
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Ah, but GOP Senate has not a word to say about the Bidens?   The DNC is accusing the POTUS of exactly what THEIR VP Biden did and confessed to doing.  Ah, but the GOPe has to stay on the high road, we don't investigate our political opponents, no, we can't do that, its just unsightly.

Meanwhile the DNC is laying an L Shaped ambush, with claymores and NBC weapons.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 6:07:12 PM EST
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A few things...

This recorded phone call. Where is the warrant?  If there was no warrant then they are spying on Trump illegally.  Which means the SCOTUS would easily find "Fruit of the Poisoned Tree" and intervene and nullify Trump being removed from office.  As it has been pointed out to me in prior threads, SCOTUS has already ruled that a president can't be impeached because he did something bad. It must be criminal and all proper legal requirements must be upheld.  Spying without a warrant = not proper.

In any case, they are still spying on Trump.

Nobody has seen the whistleblower's report or statements. The whistleblower reportedly wasn't present during the conversation which means Trump was probably unmasked at a later time.  The whistleblower is reported to be a democrat party operative.

The democrats are already moving the goal posts.  Yesterday there was a quid pro quo.  Today if Trump just made a request it is impeacheable. The democrats apparently don't care that Trump is releasing the transcript. They are going to base all of their investigation on the partisan whistleblower's accusations.
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It's normal for others to listen in on these calls from both countries.  Does Trump speak Ukrainian?  Translators are one group.

This was a setup and I'm not saying the Ukrainians were a part of this one st least not on purpose.  This is the IC lawyers doing what they do best; scheme a way out of a jam.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 6:08:45 PM EST
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With all the caps lock and angry back and forth, I'm kinda lost on some people's arguments or even their positions. Lol
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 6:11:09 PM EST
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Heyyyy not a bad idea. I can't stand LIBERALS pretending to be progun and shouting don't vote or vote DEMOCRAT to teach the Republican party a lesson.

I'm hitting the ignore button
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Gun owners are voting for a guy who has passed more gun control in 3 years than Obama did in 8. He clearly doesn't care about the 2A and will listen to any insane idea that Ivanka whispers in his ear.

You really trust a lame duck Trump to not do damage to gun rights when he already knows 90% of them will vote for his reelection no matter how much damage he causes?
Welp. Congrats, you got the 2020 Ignore List started early.
Heyyyy not a bad idea. I can't stand LIBERALS pretending to be progun and shouting don't vote or vote DEMOCRAT to teach the Republican party a lesson.

I'm hitting the ignore button
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 6:14:06 PM EST
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It's normal for others to listen in on these calls from both countries.  Does Trump speak Ukrainian?  Translators are one group.

This was a setup and I'm not saying the Ukrainians were a part of this one st least not on purpose.  This is the IC lawyers doing what they do best; scheme a way out of a jam.
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A few things...

This recorded phone call. Where is the warrant?  If there was no warrant then they are spying on Trump illegally.  Which means the SCOTUS would easily find "Fruit of the Poisoned Tree" and intervene and nullify Trump being removed from office.  As it has been pointed out to me in prior threads, SCOTUS has already ruled that a president can't be impeached because he did something bad. It must be criminal and all proper legal requirements must be upheld.  Spying without a warrant = not proper.

In any case, they are still spying on Trump.

Nobody has seen the whistleblower's report or statements. The whistleblower reportedly wasn't present during the conversation which means Trump was probably unmasked at a later time.  The whistleblower is reported to be a democrat party operative.

The democrats are already moving the goal posts.  Yesterday there was a quid pro quo.  Today if Trump just made a request it is impeacheable. The democrats apparently don't care that Trump is releasing the transcript. They are going to base all of their investigation on the partisan whistleblower's accusations.
It's normal for others to listen in on these calls from both countries.  Does Trump speak Ukrainian?  Translators are one group.

This was a setup and I'm not saying the Ukrainians were a part of this one st least not on purpose.  This is the IC lawyers doing what they do best; scheme a way out of a jam.
I’m currently in the ‘Trump is trolling the Democrats with this Ukrainian phone call’ camp.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 6:22:16 PM EST
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Commies always accuse you of doing what they're doing. Ukraine corruption? Biden's son's business deal. Russian Collusion? Uranium one. Etc.
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It’s ok when they are corrupt, you see, and their pet media (which is an enemy of the people) will wholeheartedly cover for them.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 6:22:57 PM EST
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In for the shrieking

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 6:23:36 PM EST
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The Democrats just put a nail in to the coffin of their 2020 election hopes.
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No they didn’t. Massive voter fraud is still in their back pockets.
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Another one got triggered LOL

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Gun owners are voting for a guy who has passed more gun control in 3 years than Obama did in 8. He clearly doesn't care about the 2A and will listen to any insane idea that Ivanka whispers in his ear.

You really trust a lame duck Trump to not do damage to gun rights when he already knows 90% of them will vote for his reelection no matter how much damage he causes?
Welp. Congrats, you got the 2020 Ignore List started early.
Another one got triggered LOL

Don’t flatter yourself. There are a few posters here who say the same thing in every thread. It’s boring and just not always worth the effort to scroll.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 6:27:42 PM EST
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I am rusty on the whole impeachment thing.. But arnt they suppose to actually vote for starting an impeachment? How is this different then what they already have been doing with nadler?
Is this just a smoke and mirror show for the pleebs?
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Just remember folks, Republicans often fold. Democrats? Never.
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He’s right you know. Republicans are cowards. Democrats hold power because they control what the leftist media (an enemy of the people) says and “reports” on.
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He’s right you know. Republicans are cowards. Democrats hold power because they control what the leftist media (an enemy of the people) says and “reports” on.
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5th column.. We're getting close boys.
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Gee, almost as if someone was reading a book on how to start a revolution in the US.

Bullshit impeachment.

Trump wins 2020.

Left incites violence to "remove" impeached president.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 6:30:24 PM EST
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If ever there was a question of how insanely stupid the Democrats are, this proves it. Political suicide.
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I’m still waiting for the declas stuff and the IG report and the Hubert reports... where is all of that? He isn’t doing much to strike back.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 6:34:41 PM EST
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Hope so he hasn’t done shit for us but tell us what we want to hear for 3 years.  Screw him and his whole family. By By! NEXT!
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Seems to me they are climbing way out on a limb given they don't even know what was discussed.  If I'm understanding things correctly, this is all based on a 2nd (or 3rd) hand account, written into a report, that they haven't seen yet.  Now the POTUS is going to release the actual transcript of the call after they've shown their cards.

They either have a hidden ace or they are about to look really stupid (again).

One thing that puzzles me:  the POTUS knows his calls are being recorded and listened to, both by our own people (records) or foreign governments.  Would he really do what they are suggesting he did knowing it is all being listened to?  This is the same guy who prefers to use paper in lieu of email...
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Remember the Democrats have no moral compass, there is no limb they are climbing out on, their supporters don't care if it is purely fictional as long as Trump gets impeached, even if they fail to impeach they will run in 2020 on the "illegitimate POTUS should have been impeached not seeking re-election narrative".

These are depraved, irrational, delusional people that are in full desperation mode to stop Trump and the move to the Right, they will lie, cheat, and steal with the full support of their voter base to get that done.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 6:35:33 PM EST
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I can't wait for the circus tent fire when the Senate tells the House Dems to pound sand. It will be a nuclear meltdown.
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Hope so he hasn't done shit for us but tell us what we want to hear for 3 years.  Screw him and his whole family. By By! NEXT!
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Another shareblue troll.

Join date and post count check out.
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AOC speaks to press after Pelosi launches impeachment inquiry
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For what, exactly?

Doing to Biden what Obama did to Trump?
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Hope so he hasn't done shit for us but tell us what we want to hear for 3 years.  Screw him and his whole family. By By! NEXT!
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Jesus Christ, they're coming out of the wood works.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 6:40:55 PM EST
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I’m still waiting for the declas stuff and the IG report and the Hubert reports... where is all of that? He isn’t doing much to strike back.
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This may actually be a distraction to take those out of the headlines.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 6:41:44 PM EST
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You know, y'all spend a lot of time talking about nothing.

MAGA - Trump 2020 - the train is still rolling folks.

Go ahead and vote D for Dumbass - then reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee at the sky
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