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Posted: 9/24/2019 8:02:28 PM EST
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I do believe they're serious this time.
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Posted: 9/24/2019 8:04:32 PM EST
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This was always going to happen. They are going to use the House to hold continuous, anti-Trump hearings until the election. This was always the plan. and I think the military intelligence guys on the white hat side knew this potus is part of the plan--but only he decides when is the right time to unleash on the disgusting globalist scum from both parties (mainly dem) |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 8:06:39 PM EST
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Your avatar is fitting we will see |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 8:10:40 PM EST
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Quick Timeline of today:
1. 24hrs ago Pelosi was against impeachment 2. This morning the Trump admin announces its going withhold California highway funds if it doesn't fix EPA violations 3. Few hours later Pelosi announces a formal impeachment inquiry on Trump, probably retaliation for EPA (Gavin Newsom is Pelosi's nephew) |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 8:16:21 PM EST
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Trump could spread and shoot his presidental gold J** in every republicans wife or daughter, they will not vote to impeach him because if they do, they are completely done as a party during relection time.
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Posted: 9/24/2019 8:18:39 PM EST
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Trump could spread and shoot his presidental gold J** in every republicans wife or daughter, they will not vote to impeach him because if they do, they are completely done as a party during relection time. |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 8:22:16 PM EST
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Trump could spread and shoot his presidental gold J** in every republicans wife or daughter, they will not vote to impeach him because if they do, they are completely done as a party during relection time. |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 8:25:28 PM EST
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Trump could spread and shoot his presidental gold J** in every republicans wife or daughter, they will not vote to impeach him because if they do, they are completely done as a party during relection time. They are damned if they don’t more than if they do. |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 8:29:28 PM EST
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The more I about it the more I think the opposite, their problem now that they have opened the can is they have to impeach no matter what or risk having their voter base turn on them. They are damned if they don’t more than if they do. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Trump could spread and shoot his presidental gold J** in every republicans wife or daughter, they will not vote to impeach him because if they do, they are completely done as a party during relection time. They are damned if they don’t more than if they do. |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 8:35:45 PM EST
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This was always going to happen. They are going to use the House to hold continuous, anti-Trump hearings until the election. This was always the plan. They ain't done shit, President Trump has had to do everything himself (without even the republican party, let alone an honest media) like the best economy since whenever, the lowest unemployment in every fucking category since time began, sticks his finger in anyone's eyes for our entertainment and enjoyment, etc. The loony left still can't understand they are there to work for us. They will rue this day. The "they hate Trump more than they love America" mantra has never been more true that as shown today. |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 8:36:10 PM EST
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You don't want pence to be president...the wrong people control him...Would be a very bad thing for this country... Trump is a band aid, the rot is set in. Trump has been real good for the country. But he can’t serve forever. The impeachment show is short term. The long term outlook is septic. Pence President will just be a lesser effective antibiotic |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 8:36:50 PM EST
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Ah, the .0001% that will make all the difference in the 2020 election.......127 million people voted in 2016....Good luck with that FAIL... Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: He forgot about the thousands of us who will stay at home or will vote D because of his anti gun rhetoric LOL I mean...we dont have a direct line into the White House. So is it to try to convince us to hand the presidency to a leftist because we are pissed at trump? Because that would be giving up everything else we get from trump being in office instead of a leftist. It sucks, sure. But a pragmatist is going to realize that no matter how things go wrong are more likely going to lose less/gain more with trump reelected than if we hand the white house to a damn dirty leftist piece of shit. |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 8:42:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well considering I'm in Texas and it's a state that's trending purple, I think it'll matter. Plus I'm voting straight R ticket except Trump so I think it'll make more of a difference than just staying home. YMMV If by some chance Trump loses this election your precious stance on the 2nd A will suffer much worse than anything Trump may talk about. |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 8:44:47 PM EST
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I do believe they're serious this time. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/25872/Jerry_Nadler_in_clown_shoes-1101641.jpg 
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Posted: 9/24/2019 8:47:18 PM EST
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It seems like no one likes the orange man. I honestly don't care about the president, it doesn't affect my day to day life. I do care about my local gubernment. They do enough to fuck over the people. I feel bad for the guy though his whole presidency there has been turmoil, and he pretty much got nothing done except troll people. I also find it funny how all the Dems supported him until he said he was going to run as a rep, just goes to show it truly is a shit show in DC. While you're watching Network news Trump has been loading good guys to Federal Courts by the dozens, that plus the Supreme Court is worth it by itself. |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 8:47:28 PM EST
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I do believe they're serious this time. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/25872/Jerry_Nadler_in_clown_shoes-1101641.jpg  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 8:52:41 PM EST
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Trump accomplished more in his first 6 months in office than the entire 8 year term of the incompetent queer bastard before him, thank God. While you're watching Network news Trump has been loading good guys to Federal Courts by the dozens, that plus the Supreme Court is worth it by itself. |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 8:54:23 PM EST
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Posted: 9/24/2019 8:56:33 PM EST
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Posted: 9/24/2019 8:57:48 PM EST
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Hope so he hasn’t done shit for us but tell us what we want to hear for 3 years. Screw him and his whole family. By By! NEXT! If you eat, drink, sleep, and shit nothing but firearms, you have a point, but are a single issue voter. We don't need those anymore. |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 8:58:18 PM EST
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Trump in a siege mentality means releasing all sorts of shit like how the Dems tried to frame him. |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 9:01:51 PM EST
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Yawwwwwwn.
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Posted: 9/24/2019 9:04:09 PM EST
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After listening to several constitutional attorneys speak about the law regarding the IG's statement and his defense of his actions you have to wonder if we have people serving in these high positions that do not actually know the law. Everyone of these constitutional attorneys said the man was wrong on his interpretation of the law as is every democrat.
Joe Degenova on Fox called Fox's Judge Napolitano a fool for saying Trump committed a crime, despite having no idea what was actually said by Trump. It was awesome. 
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Posted: 9/24/2019 9:04:27 PM EST
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Why does Trump need to be pinned down by this. Get a count and if there arent 67 Senators voting to remove because Orange Man Bad..... It should be summarily ignored and hearings gone unattended. Let them flap in the wind as long as possible. A year from now when nothing has moved at all it will be as exciting as the Failler Report Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I wish. I mean, reality is he didn't do anything wrong nor unusual for a president. However, when has reality ever stopped his opposition? This is the IC Lawfare group's next move against him that protects Biden their chosen one and also themselves from the details to come in the FISA IG report. They'll spend weeks if not months discussing this. Nothing will come out of it again just like muh-Russia but it may pin Trump's team down for a while. That's all they need. It should be summarily ignored and hearings gone unattended. Let them flap in the wind as long as possible. A year from now when nothing has moved at all it will be as exciting as the Failler Report That said, it give's the swamp an excuse to "do something" for the next oh I don't know, a year or so right? Rather than address issues, get the government out of the way, and do for the people they are going to do for themselves and try to distract everyone with muh-Whistleblower Ukraine gate. |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 9:05:28 PM EST
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quid pro quo
That's the problem. Withholding assistance to a country that the Legislative Body approved to ask for information on a political Rival. That's the Problem. Withholding military aid to the Ukraine approved by Congress in order to investigate the Biden's Son (Hunter). That's the problem. Change the names, it's always the problem as an American. This isn't politics. This is an issue of an abuse of power. This is about the Country as a whole, rule of law, not one individual. |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 9:07:19 PM EST
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quid pro quo That's the problem. Withholding assistance to a country that the Legislative Body approved to ask for information on a political Rival. That's the Problem. Withholding military aid to the Ukraine approved by Congress in order to investigate the Biden's Son (Hunter). That's the problem. Change the names, it's always the problem as an American. This isn't politics. This is an issue of an abuse of power. This is about the Country as a whole, rule of law, not one individual. How would you know if its a "problem" He is releasing it. Tomorrow. |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 9:07:56 PM EST
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quid pro quo That's the problem. Withholding assistance to a country that the Legislative Body approved to ask for information on a political Rival. That's the Problem. Withholding military aid to the Ukraine approved by Congress in order to investigate the Biden's Son (Hunter). That's the problem. Change the names, it's always the problem as an American. This isn't politics. This is an issue of an abuse of power. This is about the Country as a whole, rule of law, not one individual. |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 9:08:11 PM EST
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Posted: 9/24/2019 9:08:19 PM EST
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quid pro quo That's the problem. Withholding assistance to a country that the Legislative Body approved to ask for information on a political Rival. That's the Problem. Withholding military aid to the Ukraine approved by Congress in order to investigate the Biden's Son (Hunter). That's the problem. Change the names, it's always the problem as an American. This isn't politics. This is an issue of an abuse of power. This is about the Country as a whole, rule of law, not one individual. |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 9:09:27 PM EST
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quid pro quo That's the problem. Withholding assistance to a country that the Legislative Body approved to ask for information on a political Rival. That's the Problem. Withholding military aid to the Ukraine approved by Congress in order to investigate the Biden's Son (Hunter). That's the problem. Change the names, it's always the problem as an American. This isn't politics. This is an issue of an abuse of power. This is about the Country as a whole, rule of law, not one individual.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 9:10:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You dont have a single fucking clue what anyone did right now How would you know if its a "problem" He is releasing it. Tomorrow. |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 9:10:16 PM EST
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Posted: 9/24/2019 9:12:52 PM EST
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quid pro quo That's the problem. Withholding assistance to a country that the Legislative Body approved to ask for information on a political Rival. That's the Problem. Withholding military aid to the Ukraine approved by Congress in order to investigate the Biden's Son (Hunter). That's the problem. Change the names, it's always the problem as an American. This isn't politics. This is an issue of an abuse of power. This is about the Country as a whole, rule of law, not one individual. |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 9:14:57 PM EST
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I'll just add that Lawfareblog.com and the Brookings folks have been pushing this since it wasn't even a thing. Today, Wittes et-al puts out an article which is a guideline on how to proceed. https://www.lawfareblog.com/so-you-want-impeach-president
Now, he and the ole IC crew over there have done this before and we've seen the Dems fall on their face executing it and the Republicans in the House outmaneuver them to some degree with simple facts and reality. But the sudden and urgent focus on impeachment raises an important question: What should the House impeach President Trump for? If the House is no longer considering whether to impeach Trump and has really decided to move forward, it needs to think about what articles of impeachment should—and should not—contain. ...The first is obstruction of justice and abuse of law enforcement institutions and personnel...
...the second involves his attempts to leverage the power of the presidency to cause investigation and prosecution of political opponents... ...The third broad area Congress should focus on is the abuse of the president’s foreign policy authorities and misuse of congressionally appropriated money to induce a foreign head of state to violate the civil liberties of U.S. persons and interfere in a presidential election... ...The fourth area for Congress to focus on in considering impeachment is the president’s efforts to obstruct or impede congressional investigations... ...A final area Congress should examine is Trump’s lying to the American public... But, as I said, this is to completely distract from their wrong doing and to completely take the air out of the room when the FISA IG report comes out soon...and any DOJ charges that actually come to fruition from it (if Barr has any balls but I doubt it as he's the king of IC lawyers). |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 9:16:23 PM EST
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And not one single bit of that is known. Maybe tomorrow. If there is no QPQ, are you going to Eat_Crow? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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quid pro quo That's the problem. Withholding assistance to a country that the Legislative Body approved to ask for information on a political Rival. That's the Problem. Withholding military aid to the Ukraine approved by Congress in order to investigate the Biden's Son (Hunter). That's the problem. Change the names, it's always the problem as an American. This isn't politics. This is an issue of an abuse of power. This is about the Country as a whole, rule of law, not one individual. 
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Posted: 9/24/2019 9:18:08 PM EST
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You think Republicans want trump impeached? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Trump could spread and shoot his presidental gold J** in every republicans wife or daughter, they will not vote to impeach him because if they do, they are completely done as a party during relection time. They are damned if they don’t more than if they do. |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 9:18:25 PM EST
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Today Nancy Pelosi made an announcement with forethought, optical planning, teleprompter script, and a presentation intended to look serious. But what she announced was simply a continuation of the status quo wrapped up in newly packaged lingo.
Pelosi stated she was herewith announcing an “official impeachment inquiry“. Everything remains ‘as is’, albeit with enhanced optics and new titles for the narrative engineers. |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 9:21:09 PM EST
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quid pro quo That's the problem. Withholding assistance to a country that the Legislative Body approved to ask for information on a political Rival. That's the Problem. Withholding military aid to the Ukraine approved by Congress in order to investigate the Biden's Son (Hunter). That's the problem. Change the names, it's always the problem as an American. This isn't politics. This is an issue of an abuse of power. This is about the Country as a whole, rule of law, not one individual.
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Posted: 9/24/2019 9:22:04 PM EST
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I'm currently in the 'Trump is trolling the Democrats with this Ukrainian phone call' camp. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A few things... This recorded phone call. Where is the warrant? If there was no warrant then they are spying on Trump illegally. Which means the SCOTUS would easily find "Fruit of the Poisoned Tree" and intervene and nullify Trump being removed from office. As it has been pointed out to me in prior threads, SCOTUS has already ruled that a president can't be impeached because he did something bad. It must be criminal and all proper legal requirements must be upheld. Spying without a warrant = not proper. In any case, they are still spying on Trump. Nobody has seen the whistleblower's report or statements. The whistleblower reportedly wasn't present during the conversation which means Trump was probably unmasked at a later time. The whistleblower is reported to be a democrat party operative. The democrats are already moving the goal posts. Yesterday there was a quid pro quo. Today if Trump just made a request it is impeacheable. The democrats apparently don't care that Trump is releasing the transcript. They are going to base all of their investigation on the partisan whistleblower's accusations. This was a setup and I'm not saying the Ukrainians were a part of this one st least not on purpose. This is the IC lawyers doing what they do best; scheme a way out of a jam. |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 9:24:22 PM EST
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I think the Republicans should release a list of all the people and the questions for an impeachment hearing, then have every Republican in the House pledge to vote for impeachment.
The Democrats would bark, but wouldn't bite. |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 9:25:27 PM EST
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I am surprised by the 100 - 0 vote in the Senate to release the actual whistleblower complaint.
It was an “unanimous consent" vote but no one raised any objections. The Senate unanimously passed a nonbinding resolution Tuesday calling for the whistleblower complaint related to President Trump's communications with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to be released to the House and Senate Intelligence Committees.
The resolution was hotlined, meaning that it bypassed regular Senate procedures such as floor debates and went straight to a vote where it was passed by unanimous consent. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) asked to pass it, and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Kent.) did not object, arguing that he's through with all the speculation and just wants the facts. |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 9:26:47 PM EST
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Oh they floated that idea to plant the obstruction seeds...but in logical land... how does showing information obstruct justice? Hiding does... showing... not so much Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: He couldn't declass before the midterms, because Mueller was slow walking his report until after to help democrats. If he declassified then they would have treated it as obstruction. Hiding does... showing... not so much |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 9:29:25 PM EST
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quid pro quo That's the problem. Withholding assistance to a country that the Legislative Body approved to ask for information on a political Rival. That's the Problem. Withholding military aid to the Ukraine approved by Congress in order to investigate the Biden's Son (Hunter). That's the problem. Change the names, it's always the problem as an American. This isn't politics. This is an issue of an abuse of power. This is about the Country as a whole, rule of law, not one individual. |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 9:32:57 PM EST
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IF Trump was on the verge of being kicked out of the WH, IMO stock futures would be down. A lot! CNBC reports stock futures slightly up.
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Posted: 9/24/2019 9:34:06 PM EST
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I am surprised by the 100 - 0 vote in the Senate to release the actual whistleblower complaint. It was an “unanimous consent" vote but no one raised any objections. This is the actual complaint itself, not the phone call transcripts. There is no reason to vote against seeing a whistleblower complaint. |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 9:34:43 PM EST
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“Good”? It’s a desperate mess. It’s a continuation of using the FBI for opposition research. Now they will use the powers of the House to continue the Oppo research effort. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This was always going to happen. They are going to use the House to hold continuous, anti-Trump hearings until the election. This was always the plan. @Cincinnatus It’s a desperate mess. It’s a continuation of using the FBI for opposition research. Now they will use the powers of the House to continue the Oppo research effort. There's a reason the RINOS and communists all want him gone. He's encouraged people to pay attention to what the communists promise to bring if they are given the power to do so. The RINOS are just along for the ride. They just want their piece of the pie. |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 9:37:03 PM EST
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quid pro quo That's the problem. Withholding assistance to a country that the Legislative Body approved to ask for information on a political Rival. That's the Problem. Withholding military aid to the Ukraine approved by Congress in order to investigate the Biden's Son (Hunter). That's the problem. Change the names, it's always the problem as an American. This isn't politics. This is an issue of an abuse of power. This is about the Country as a whole, rule of law, not one individual. 
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Posted: 9/24/2019 9:37:21 PM EST
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You know what, the more I read about this, the more I believe this. Tomorrow will tell when the transcript drops. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A few things... This recorded phone call. Where is the warrant? If there was no warrant then they are spying on Trump illegally. Which means the SCOTUS would easily find "Fruit of the Poisoned Tree" and intervene and nullify Trump being removed from office. As it has been pointed out to me in prior threads, SCOTUS has already ruled that a president can't be impeached because he did something bad. It must be criminal and all proper legal requirements must be upheld. Spying without a warrant = not proper. In any case, they are still spying on Trump. Nobody has seen the whistleblower's report or statements. The whistleblower reportedly wasn't present during the conversation which means Trump was probably unmasked at a later time. The whistleblower is reported to be a democrat party operative. The democrats are already moving the goal posts. Yesterday there was a quid pro quo. Today if Trump just made a request it is impeacheable. The democrats apparently don't care that Trump is releasing the transcript. They are going to base all of their investigation on the partisan whistleblower's accusations. This was a setup and I'm not saying the Ukrainians were a part of this one st least not on purpose. This is the IC lawyers doing what they do best; scheme a way out of a jam. If so, this would be the biggest one to date |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 9:37:48 PM EST
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quid pro quo That's the problem. Withholding assistance to a country that the Legislative Body approved to ask for information on a political Rival. That's the Problem. Withholding military aid to the Ukraine approved by Congress in order to investigate the Biden's Son (Hunter). That's the problem. Change the names, it's always the problem as an American. This isn't politics. This is an issue of an abuse of power. This is about the Country as a whole, rule of law, not one individual. |
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Posted: 9/24/2019 9:41:31 PM EST
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