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Link Posted: 9/24/2019 9:42:13 PM EST
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https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/24/attorney-for-anti-trump-whistleblower-worked-for-hillary-clinton-chuck-schumer/
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 9:42:52 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/24/2019 9:43:15 PM EST
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Pay attention people. Trump has them trapped, backed into a corner.  This is business, he controls them, they do what he wants, when he wants. Fucking brilliant.

President trump has house balls in his hand.  God bless president trump.

They’re trapped. They should just bow out. But they can’t b cause squad and fucking commie reps.

This is fucking awesome.  The squad and freshmen reps control the party. This is so fucking awesome
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 9:43:16 PM EST
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I for one missed Bullet_Sponge and am glad to see him back.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 9:45:53 PM EST
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Today Nancy Pelosi made an announcement with forethought, optical planning, teleprompter script, and a presentation intended to look serious.  But what she announced was simply a continuation of the status quo wrapped up in newly packaged lingo.

Pelosi stated she was herewith announcing an “official impeachment inquiry“. Everything remains ‘as is’, albeit with enhanced optics and new titles for the narrative engineers.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/24/speaker-pelosi-bamboozles-base-by-announcing-enhanced-continuation-of-status-quo/'[
Mark Meadows said it well, "This is a congressional coup."
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 9:45:57 PM EST
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In the end, Biden will be the one Biting_The_Dust.  
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quid pro quo

That's the problem.

Withholding assistance to a country that the Legislative Body approved to ask for information on a political Rival.

That's the Problem.

Withholding military aid to the Ukraine approved by Congress in order to investigate the Biden's Son (Hunter).

That's the problem.

Change the names, it's always the problem as an American.

This isn't politics.  This is an issue of an abuse of power.

This is about the Country as a whole, rule of law, not one individual.
And not one single bit of that is known. Maybe tomorrow. If there is no QPQ, are you going to Eat_Crow?
In the end, Biden will be the one Biting_The_Dust.  
 I'm wondering if the Dems in the real positions of power  have just decided that Good Old Joe has got to go.  Wonder what else is lingering over the next hill or around the next corner.  Warren, or any other "progressive" has no shot while Joe can be proposed as the guy that can beat Trump.

Heard an interesting opinion is that it's really to provide cover for Biden when his gaffe and the statements he made are getting the big play.  That the can tell the lie that Biden didn't do anything that Trump didn't do.

My opinion, and it's worth exactly what you paid for it is Pelosi decided she had to get out in front of her party and this was where they were running to.  Look at it, decide there really isn't anything there and return to the , "Let's beat him at the ballot box.  That's the best way to solve the Trump problems."  Kind of like a Union threatening to strike, now she has to pray there is a there there, another fizzle and she's gone, most of the firebreathers will get challenged as time and money wasters.  Assuming the Dems can come up with a candidate that doesn't have potentially fatal flaws.  Joe has a truck load of gaffes, and the plagiarism, and his son making the big $$ while he was VP.  Warren, has the real indian scandals, and the inability to figure out how to tell people they are going to get taxed to cover all the no-loads.  Sanders, is just an old white man commie.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 9:46:45 PM EST
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The Democrats are looking sooooo weak right now.

This is going to ruin the 2020 elections for them. It's going to be marvelous.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 9:47:31 PM EST
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Shows you how much principle they have then.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 9:49:02 PM EST
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You know what, the more I read about this, the more I believe this.  Tomorrow will tell when the transcript drops.
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A few things...

This recorded phone call. Where is the warrant?  If there was no warrant then they are spying on Trump illegally.  Which means the SCOTUS would easily find "Fruit of the Poisoned Tree" and intervene and nullify Trump being removed from office.  As it has been pointed out to me in prior threads, SCOTUS has already ruled that a president can't be impeached because he did something bad. It must be criminal and all proper legal requirements must be upheld.  Spying without a warrant = not proper.

In any case, they are still spying on Trump.

Nobody has seen the whistleblower's report or statements. The whistleblower reportedly wasn't present during the conversation which means Trump was probably unmasked at a later time.  The whistleblower is reported to be a democrat party operative.

The democrats are already moving the goal posts.  Yesterday there was a quid pro quo.  Today if Trump just made a request it is impeacheable. The democrats apparently don't care that Trump is releasing the transcript. They are going to base all of their investigation on the partisan whistleblower's accusations.
It's normal for others to listen in on these calls from both countries.  Does Trump speak Ukrainian?  Translators are one group.

This was a setup and I'm not saying the Ukrainians were a part of this one st least not on purpose.  This is the IC lawyers doing what they do best; scheme a way out of a jam.
I'm currently in the 'Trump is trolling the Democrats with this Ukrainian phone call' camp.
You know what, the more I read about this, the more I believe this.  Tomorrow will tell when the transcript drops.
At this point, I am convinced it was a canary trap.

Here is a "what if." It is pretty much understood that the Biden's came up multiple (eight?) times during the conversation. Get this, though... What if it was the Ukraine prez who brought up the Biden's, and not DJT?

N_T's/TDS'ers/Dems/MSM
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 9:50:26 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/24/2019 9:52:47 PM EST
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They better drop that transcript...

Hopefully Baaaaar doesn't convince Trump not to.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 9:53:26 PM EST
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I'm wondering if the Dems in the real positions of power  have just decided that Good Old Joe has got to go.  Wonder what else is lingering over the next hill or around the next corner.  Warren, or any other "progressive" has no shot while Joe can be proposed as the guy that can beat Trump.
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My money will be on Mikey Obama will step forward.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 9:54:47 PM EST
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Was there a vote to start an inquiry?
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 9:55:51 PM EST
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They make up the rules as they go.

No vote needed
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 9:58:29 PM EST
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It's normal for others to listen in on these calls from both countries.  Does Trump speak Ukrainian?  Translators are one group.

This was a setup and I'm not saying the Ukrainians were a part of this one st least not on purpose.  This is the IC lawyers doing what they do best; scheme a way out of a jam.
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There are political factions of Ukranians. Actually, there was a Ukranian woman who was instrumental in the Russiagate hoax. She was lobbying against Trump because of Manafort. But yeah, this is designed to short circuit a Biden investigation.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 9:58:46 PM EST
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No way. Too much actual work and she he already has the money.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 10:02:13 PM EST
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It would be grand to see a House Floor vote on this issue.

In AZ, we have two democratic representatives in districts that lean Republican. A third district could be tough with shifting demographics (O'Halleran, Kirkpatrick, Stanton).

So, the vote tally may not be as easy as Pelosi and her cabal would like.

For the forum at large: are there similar House districts in your home state?
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 10:04:47 PM EST
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I'm actually really glad the gloves came off this soon. It will be epic.

DemoKKKrats have overplayed their hand now twice this year.

My only real concern is how corrupt the CIA/NSA is.

I've met enough NSA ("Nose Snorting Asshats") when I worked FED that I can totally see them sell out anyone who questions them.
The CIA ... well, If Valaiie Plume was an "agent", then that says a hell of a lot about how far down the bottom of the barrel we have to dig these days.

Remember, it was MI6/CIA/NSA who told us Iraq had WMD. Bushie was just stupid/gullible enough to believe it.

These are the same clowns who want to handle your "red flags".
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 10:08:07 PM EST
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Are you kidding?

Not in the Bay Area, anyway.

I do like your train of thought though, there are many vulnerable old school dems and not too safe freshman countrywide, they need to be on record. That is why Nancy has been apprehensive. She is smart, though a malicious and conniving communist bitch.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 10:08:43 PM EST
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Heyyyy not a bad idea. I can't stand LIBERALS pretending to be progun and shouting don't vote or vote DEMOCRAT to teach the Republican party a lesson.

I'm hitting the ignore button
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Gun owners are voting for a guy who has passed more gun control in 3 years than Obama did in 8. He clearly doesn't care about the 2A and will listen to any insane idea that Ivanka whispers in his ear.

You really trust a lame duck Trump to not do damage to gun rights when he already knows 90% of them will vote for his reelection no matter how much damage he causes?
Welp. Congrats, you got the 2020 Ignore List started early.
Heyyyy not a bad idea. I can't stand LIBERALS pretending to be progun and shouting don't vote or vote DEMOCRAT to teach the Republican party a lesson.

I'm hitting the ignore button
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 10:11:30 PM EST
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“Good”?

It’s a desperate mess.

It’s a continuation of using the FBI for opposition research.

Now they will use the powers of the House to continue the Oppo research effort.
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This was always going to happen.

They are going to use the House to hold continuous, anti-Trump hearings until the election.

This was always the plan.
You think this is a good plan for them?

@Cincinnatus
“Good”?

It’s a desperate mess.

It’s a continuation of using the FBI for opposition research.

Now they will use the powers of the House to continue the Oppo research effort.
What they don't get is that Trump has dealt with similar shit as a CEO and people trying to take him out of the picture.

Bushie would have caved and walked away to his pickup and "Ah shucks". (spineless dipshit that he is)

Trump has people who know what plays to make. He fights.

I won't let my daughter date him, but, I'd sooner see my son go to war with him in charge than any "D".
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 10:12:09 PM EST
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You can tell them that without voting for democrats.

Think about the logic of that that argument for a second:  you are pissed that one party is supporting lukewarm gun control so you would punish them by voting for people who support gun control whole hog?

That doesn't make any sense.
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Yup and it still doesn't make me feel like telling republicans that I love gun control and want more of it.
You can tell them that without voting for democrats.

Think about the logic of that that argument for a second:  you are pissed that one party is supporting lukewarm gun control so you would punish them by voting for people who support gun control whole hog?

That doesn't make any sense.
The entire concept is so fucking stupid that I can't even really comment since the only time out I've ever had was recently for calling trolls/shills a troll/shill...so I'm not goingt to even say it now.

Link Posted: 9/24/2019 10:13:27 PM EST
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A legislative coup.

The speaker has taken control of impeachment without calling for a vote.

Now the impeachment trial can take place in the house of reps and the naysayers will be forced to go along.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 10:15:56 PM EST
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https://www.dailywire.com/news/52200/bombshell-intel-inspector-general-found-ryan-saavedra?amp&__twitter_impression=true

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The Trump administration announced on Tuesday that it is releasing an inspector general report on the whistleblower complaint that is at the center of Democrats' push to impeach the president which reportedly found that the whistleblower had a bias in favor of one of Trump's political rivals.

"A senior Trump administration official told Fox News late Tuesday that the administration will release a document showing the intelligence community inspector general found the whistleblower who leveled an explosive accusation against President Trump concerning his talks with Ukraine had 'political bias' in favor of 'a rival candidate' of the president," Fox News reported.
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Link Posted: 9/24/2019 10:19:22 PM EST
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What the headline should read is:

Speaker Pelosi admits none of their candidates can beat President Trump in next year’s election.

or

Speaker Pelosi confesses she has lost control of her party to a few dim witted Socialists
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 10:21:38 PM EST
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The more I about it the more I think the opposite, their problem now that they have opened the can is they have to impeach no matter what or risk having their voter base turn on them.

They are damned if they don’t more than if they do.
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Trump could spread and shoot his presidental gold J** in every republicans wife or daughter, they will not vote to impeach him because if they do, they are completely done as a party during relection time.
The more I about it the more I think the opposite, their problem now that they have opened the can is they have to impeach no matter what or risk having their voter base turn on them.

They are damned if they don’t more than if they do.
They've been "impeaching" for awhile now. Think about this: how many were elected for the sole purpose of impeaching Trump? Without impeachment AOC wouldn't have won, IMHO.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 10:22:47 PM EST
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And not one single bit of that is known. Maybe tomorrow. If there is no QPQ, are you going to Eat_Crow?
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We already know what Biden did and why.

He told us.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 10:25:22 PM EST
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The best part is yet to come. He is soo senile he is going to deny everything.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 10:27:37 PM EST
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A legislative coup.

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Henceforth the coming election will be known by the surviving dimocrats in congress as the "Swing State Slaughter" as they are primaried out by even farther leftists or hung by the centrists for voting yes to this fecal pile with sprinkles.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 10:28:30 PM EST
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There are political factions of Ukranians. Actually, there was a Ukranian woman who was instrumental in the Russiagate hoax. She was lobbying against Trump because of Manafort. But yeah, this is designed to short circuit a Biden investigation.
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It's normal for others to listen in on these calls from both countries.  Does Trump speak Ukrainian?  Translators are one group.

This was a setup and I'm not saying the Ukrainians were a part of this one st least not on purpose.  This is the IC lawyers doing what they do best; scheme a way out of a jam.
There are political factions of Ukranians. Actually, there was a Ukranian woman who was instrumental in the Russiagate hoax. She was lobbying against Trump because of Manafort. But yeah, this is designed to short circuit a Biden investigation.
Da Chalupa sisters (if they really are sisters...fucking IC cover).  Alexandra Chalupa:
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 10:30:11 PM EST
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Emotional...like a Liberal.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 10:34:55 PM EST
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Yeah, for what EXACTLY?

I guess "orange man bad" is enough?

Honk honk motherfuckers...
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A legislative coup.

The speaker has taken control of impeachment without calling for a vote.

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The impeachment trial takes place in the Senate.
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Link Posted: 9/24/2019 10:41:31 PM EST
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A legislative coup.

The speaker has taken control of impeachment without calling for a vote.

Now the impeachment trial can take place in the house of reps and the naysayers will be forced to go along.
Henceforth the coming election will be known by the surviving dimocrats in congress as the "Swing State Slaughter" as they are primaried out by even farther leftists or hung by the centrists for voting yes to this fecal pile with sprinkles.
They still have a few tricks up their sleeves before that happens.

With impeachment in full drag-queen attire in the house, expect to see a flurry of more IC complaints and allegations from deep state headquarters as well as subpoenas from every Democrat with a boner for Trump.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 10:43:26 PM EST
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The constitution does not apply in Nancy's house.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 10:46:13 PM EST
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The impeachment trial takes place in the Senate.
The constitution does not apply in Nancy's house.
Oh, yeah.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 10:47:31 PM EST
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I would be amused by the most troll of moves I must confess

Republicans in the house vote as a block now FOR impeachment making it clear that it is too now move the entire framing into the Senate where they can control what is now the trial that will never result in a conviction.

Force the Democrats to vote against impeachment in this case.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 10:47:33 PM EST
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Pretty sure this will lose the election for them.
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No I think they know it's lost without something drastic. This is a "hail Mary". Although for the life of me, I can't figure what bones is thinking this will do. I mean we just had the Russiagate, then sharpiegate, and now Ukrainegate.
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Yep, this is the hill they're going to die on.
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 10:58:05 PM EST
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Is 45 peached yet?
Link Posted: 9/24/2019 11:02:59 PM EST
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Not gonna happen.
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A legislative coup.

The speaker has taken control of impeachment without calling for a vote.

Now the impeachment trial can take place in the house of reps and the naysayers will be forced to go along.
The impeachment trial takes place in the Senate.
I want to be believe he knows that. The left can put this charade on for longer, but until there is even something other than an inquiry in the House that starts with a vote of all members, it means jack shit. I hope all of America knows that, or we are in Barney.
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Link to GoFundMe?
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I want to post a sign on the main artery (Interstate 5) here in Cali which reads:

“Pelosi & the Democrats need a serious ass whippin”.
Link to GoFundMe?
I volunteer to do the sign design, free of charge.  
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I want to be believe he knows that. The left can put this charade on for longer, but until there is even something other than an inquiry in the House that starts with a vote of all members, it means jack shit. I hope all of America knows that, or we are in Barney.
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A legislative coup.

The speaker has taken control of impeachment without calling for a vote.

Now the impeachment trial can take place in the house of reps and the naysayers will be forced to go along.
The impeachment trial takes place in the Senate.
I want to be believe he knows that. The left can put this charade on for longer, but until there is even something other than an inquiry in the House that starts with a vote of all members, it means jack shit. I hope all of America knows that, or we are in Barney.
If I've got Nancy and her fellow travelers pegged, they will supplant themselves as chief arbiter and *attempt* to tie Trump up into court battles and hearings until 2020.

That's if Nancy has the guts to do it. By her actions today, she either has no idea what she just did or she lust for power so much she couldn't help it.

She threw the rule book out the window.
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This is already looking like a Trap for the democrats and they are taking the bait and its only been a few hours.
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I want to be believe he knows that. The left can put this charade on for longer, but until there is even something other than an inquiry in the House that starts with a vote of all members, it means jack shit. I hope all of America knows that, or we are in Barney.
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Most of America only knows what their respective cable "news" networks tell them and you can be sure the Communist Networks aren't going to tell them that it's not an official inquiry without an actual House vote. Not to mention they haven't told them why this doesn't actually fall under the whistle blower statutes.
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