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Posted: 4/13/2021 12:48:51 PM EDT
Investigators in San Luis Bispo are digging up the ground near Ruben Flores home.  Ruben is the father of Paul Flores and the son has been taken into custody.   They have cut into what appears to be concrete due to the dust flowing upward and now more crime scene tape is going up.

By: KSBY Staff
Posted at 7:52 AM, Apr 13, 2021

and last updated 11:36 AM, Apr 13, 2021

UPDATE (8:40 a.m.) - Paul Flores was taken into custody Tuesday morning in San Pedro, reportedly in connection with the disappearance of Cal Poly student Kristin Smart.

Paul's father, Ruben Flores, was also reportedly taken into custody at around the same time at his home in Arroyo Grande. San Luis Obispo County Sheriff's officials are serving another search warrant at the Arroyo Grande property this morning.

KSBY News reached out to Paul Flores's attorney, Robert Sanger. He told us he does not comment on pending cases


News conference coming up at 2 PST

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I'm working on it.   It's all coming in real fast.

There is a live feed on TikTOK user okcammie who lives nearby.
Link Posted: 4/13/2021 12:56:08 PM EDT
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It will be interesting to see what broke the case.

I went to the other Cal Poly(Pomona) at the time.
Link Posted: 4/13/2021 12:56:17 PM EDT
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Coroners van reported to have arrived on scene.
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The person on live feed said a reporter was looking into the case recently.
Link Posted: 4/13/2021 12:59:02 PM EDT
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Hadn't even heard of this case.
Link Posted: 4/13/2021 12:59:23 PM EDT
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The Flores family and Paul Flores have been initial suspects for years....the beginning really. The Smart family has sued them, police have placed them “in custody” multiple times and had their property searched repeatedly.

Wonder what gave this time?
Link Posted: 4/13/2021 1:00:29 PM EDT
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Damn.  25 years.  Bet they thought they had gotten away with it.
Link Posted: 4/13/2021 1:01:28 PM EDT
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They have been searching the Flores' yards for decades.  Unusual, new concrete was noted more than 20 years ago by investigators, as well as reported by neighbors.
Link Posted: 4/13/2021 1:04:02 PM EDT
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Same. Looked it up, it’s from 1996

Thread title made it sound like she was 25 years old. But she was 19 and went missing 25 years ago.
Link Posted: 4/13/2021 1:04:39 PM EDT
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San Luis Obispo County SO announced a briefing at 2pm (presumably PDT) for major developments in the case.

The Smart family's representative said they would be issuing a statement at 3:30 p.m. today.

"Given that this is an extremely emotional day, the Smart family will not be conducting any interviews and will not be meeting with any reporters today or in the foreseeable future," the statement said.

https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Kristin-Smart-disappearance-arrests-cal-poly-16097533.php
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That wasn't a clue?
Link Posted: 4/13/2021 1:06:44 PM EDT
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I wonder if modern technology has allowed them to look into/through the concrete
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It shouldn’t really have mattered. They should have torn it up at least in the beginning even without technology.
Link Posted: 4/13/2021 1:09:04 PM EDT
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Damn. How the f could you kill someone and bury them on your property. That shit would haunt me daily.
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That's because you're probably not a psychopath.
Link Posted: 4/13/2021 1:11:18 PM EDT
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Pismo Beach used to be a really cool place to go camping.
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That's because you're probably not a psychopath.

Says the man with THAT avatar.....
Link Posted: 4/13/2021 1:13:45 PM EDT
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Fixed the title.

They served a second search warrant.  The first one was weeks ago.

They are saying on the live feed that they are drilling or cutting in the garage.


Again, the live feed user name on TikTok is okcammie
Link Posted: 4/13/2021 1:14:17 PM EDT
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Damn. How the f could you kill someone and bury them on your property. That shit would haunt me daily.

That's because you're probably not a psychopath.

Says the man with THAT avatar.....

Know thyself...
Link Posted: 4/13/2021 1:17:31 PM EDT
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What does it mean that the dust appeared to be flowing upward?

Is that the off gassing of the human remains pushing dust up?

I've seen a few CSI type shows and first I have heard of this that I can recall.
Link Posted: 4/13/2021 1:18:34 PM EDT
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I wonder if modern technology has allowed them to look into/through the concrete
Quite possible.  Last year, LE announced they'd be doing a complete re-examination of all the evidence collected by the various agencies through the years.

There were also headlines about a major announcement in the case last year, too.  Maybe, this time?  Who knows.
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One may sleep better knowing that the body wasn't being disturbed and brought to light?
Link Posted: 4/13/2021 1:18:47 PM EDT
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Pretty sure that everyone has "known" she was there, just not enough hard evidence to search.
Link Posted: 4/13/2021 1:19:18 PM EDT
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I moved to that area in 1998 and it was still big news at that time.  Glad they finally figured it out and arrested that asshole.
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What does it mean that the dust appeared to be flowing upward?

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Nothing more than concrete saws doing concrete saw things.
Link Posted: 4/13/2021 1:22:10 PM EDT
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Did they run cadaver dogs through the property in the past?
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What would the basis for your warrant be, officer?
Link Posted: 4/13/2021 1:22:51 PM EDT
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A large cutting wheel will throw concrete dust everywhere.
Link Posted: 4/13/2021 1:23:24 PM EDT
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Tag for updates.  

Hope they find the poor girl.
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Where I was a police officer we had a husband, a doctor I think it was, that murdered his wife and buried her ass underneath a brand new fish pond in the backyard.
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Actual concrete cutting w/o water to keep the dust down will produce a huge amount of dust.  I would suspect they don't use the water feature on the saw due to the human remains they are looking for.
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I remember when this was a big story.

Poor girl.





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"I knew we were fucked when that old VW microbus pulled up in our driveway, and four kids jumped out with a huge fucking Great Dane...."
Link Posted: 4/13/2021 1:31:48 PM EDT
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Remember that this crime scene is the home of Ruben Flores who is the father of Paul Flores.  Paul was the last person Kristin Smart was seen with.
Link Posted: 4/13/2021 1:32:04 PM EDT
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1 2 or 3
1. DAD did it. Son covered it up.
2. SON did it. Dad covered it up.
3. Totally fucked up Father/Son bonding and they did it together.
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If so, COC!


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It will be interesting. My wife and I watched the crime documentary about this case a couple years ago. If I recall correctly they were convinced she was under the concrete then. Which, if true, seems really fucked up for the missing girls family that it took this long to prove.
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No. Dust from the saws cutting the concrete.
Link Posted: 4/13/2021 1:38:57 PM EDT
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She went to my high school (shew was a few grades older than me) and my wife was at Cal Poly the same time she was. Hopefully they finally found her.
Link Posted: 4/13/2021 1:39:17 PM EDT
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Wasn't there another girl named Smart, from UT or somewhere, that as kidnapped around the same time?
Don't let my daughter marry a man named Smart, it's for her own safety. Check.
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Where I was a police officer we had a husband, a doctor I think it was, that murdered his wife and buried her ass underneath a brand new fish pond in the backyard.
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Where I was a police officer we had a husband, a doctor I think it was, that murdered his wife and buried her ass underneath a brand new fish pond in the backyard.


Where did he put the rest of her?
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Yes. She was abducted from her bedroom.

The media would confuse the cases on occasion.
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Damn. How the f could you kill someone and bury them on your property. That shit would haunt me daily.

That's because you're probably not a psychopath.

Says the man with THAT avatar.....

Know thyself...
I don't recognize that person, I'm guessing it's from a movie?

Link Posted: 4/13/2021 1:44:18 PM EDT
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