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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:25:33 AM EST
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:26:34 AM EST
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Do not comply. Give them to someone in a free State to hold on to until you fix your State. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:26:53 AM EST
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If we allow this and are not aggressively responding to this stupid ruling or whatever the hell it may be, don’t think Dems aren’t paying attention. If a piece of plastic can be banned there’s nothing to stop them from just passing an outright ban, no grandfathering on whatever the fuck they want. Think about that. "It's just a stupid toy." etc etc |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:27:29 AM EST
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@NoloContendre Any paperwork ready to be filed? 
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:27:30 AM EST
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Confiscating Toys? Are easy bake ovens & GI Joe with the kung fu grip next? Gun owners like you are the enemy.....you dont care about this type of gun or that accessory because you dont like it or it doesn't affect you...... but you fail to realize that an anti-gun victory like this emboldens the antis..... and they will just move on....eventually they will get to something YOU enjoy.....and on that day you deserve the same sympathy that you showed others today |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:28:38 AM EST
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They said it was almost ready to go. 90 day's to turn them in. No mention of registration or grandfathering.
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:30:02 AM EST
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Reality has no bearing on this situation. "At Trump's direction, however, the Justice Department submitted a proposed final rule earlier this year that upended the Obama-era interpretation, and concluded that bump-fire stocks, "slide-fire" devices, and devices with certain similar characteristics all fall within the prohibition on machine guns by allowing a "shooter of a semiautomatic firearm to initiate a continuous firing cycle with a single pull of the trigger," and therefore, they are illegal under federal law." Up is down. Black is white. Charlie Brown Christmas is racist because the black kid sat on his own side of the table. You're damned right up is down and black is white. Nothing makes sense. I don't think many of us realize we're at war, on every single front. I'm not saying bumpstocks is the line to draw, but it's time a line is drawn. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:30:25 AM EST
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If it's an EO, there isn't a free state to send them to. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do not comply. Give them to someone in a free State to hold on to until you fix your State. At any rate, this needs to be ignored. Do not comply. Not one inch. From my cold dead hands.... |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:31:37 AM EST
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All you "don't comply" guys are totally full of shit. You'll comply, for the exact same reason you don't own other illegal weapons.
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:32:51 AM EST
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All you "don't comply" guys are totally full of shit. You'll comply, for the exact same reason you don't own other illegal weapons. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:33:15 AM EST
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I'm sure lots of people "don't comply" but they're smart enough not to post about it on the internet. It doesn't mean it isn't happening. Hell, in Colorado people post about buying standard cap mags and take them to the range openly. Mass non-compliance is the only way to deal with these unconstitutional laws. Potheads are better patriots than most gun owners. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All you "don't comply" guys are totally full of shit. You'll comply, for the exact same reason you don't own other illegal weapons. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:34:28 AM EST
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@NoloContendre Any paperwork ready to be filed? |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:37:23 AM EST
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Project much? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All you "don't comply" guys are totally full of shit. You'll comply, for the exact same reason you don't own other illegal weapons. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:38:01 AM EST
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This shit ends up going through it will be a slippery slope and it's all downhill
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:38:15 AM EST
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All you "don't comply" guys are totally full of shit. You'll comply, for the exact same reason you don't own other illegal weapons. Yes someone will sue, and lose... because the .gov's justification for banning bump stocks is identical to their regulating/outlawing full-auto. "Just compensation " may be a problem for their plan though. But easily fixed. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:40:54 AM EST
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Binary triggers are next
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:41:09 AM EST
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Who's gonna be the first person with a spotless background and a community leader to get ventilated because of this?
We need a martyr apparently just like the libs do. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:42:36 AM EST
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Yep cold dead hands and all. Now is when the Gov sees how committed folks are to their gun rights before deciding whether to go for a bigger grab. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:45:09 AM EST
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Confiscation=a taking. It's illegal. Fuck that.
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:47:10 AM EST
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This shit ends up going through it will be a slippery slope and it's all downhill |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:47:19 AM EST
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Fuck be upon ANYONE that supports this bullshit I don’t own one, but if I did it would not be turned in or destroyed. It would just sit in my closet until this unconstitutional bs got worked out. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:48:09 AM EST
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Seriously. Bumpstocks have been banned in multiple states. Compliance has been next to nothing. Hate when people project. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All you "don't comply" guys are totally full of shit. You'll comply, for the exact same reason you don't own other illegal weapons. They will be relegated to sitting in a corner of the basement collecting dust until the owner dies and their heirs throw it away or turn it in. This is why incrementalism works so well.....they have no need for confiscation. It's a problem that sorts itself out once bans are enacted with no amnesty / grandfathering. And hell, this is coming from a POTUS who most here regard as the bestest of all time!! We better hope that the Senate holds strong, as ol' Trumpie Bear has proven that he fully supports "common sense gun legislation". And then we are really in for a treat when the next D comes in to the office and uses this as precedent. If this is what winning looks like, you guys can keep that shit. I guess they are right about one thing.....old T$ is getting shit done that Obama couldn't. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:48:56 AM EST
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@NoloContendre Any paperwork ready to be filed? |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:50:19 AM EST
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Has it been clarified if any provisions were made for registering Bump Stocks with an ATF Form 1? Rolling out the eForms just prior is convenient.
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:50:24 AM EST
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it's just stupid. you can do the same thing thing rubber bands and many other common items.
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:50:38 AM EST
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NY had to crush or turn in 30 round mags.
Welcome to NY, USA |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:53:06 AM EST
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NY had to crush or turn in 30 round mags. Welcome to NY, USA |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:53:31 AM EST
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lol huge surprise
fuck the fake GOP and this carpetbagger |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:54:07 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Sorry your gal lost." "It's just a stupid toy." etc etc ATF made you a felon if you had a spring to the accelerator stock, weren't they telling the manufacturer to give them a list of owners and you had to turn them in? If you have an unregistered DIAS or LL in your AR, you're a felon. What's the difference? I want to know. Before my gal lost and stupid plastic toy, answer the question, I'm curios. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:54:59 AM EST
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I guess they are right about one thing.....old T$ is getting shit done that Obama couldn't. This is just another ego-boost for FDJT. He doesn't give a single care about the 2A. If anything, based on his previous comments as a Democrat, he's more anti-2A than he is pro-2A. In fact, he's now done absolutely nothing pro-2A and more damage to the 2A than Bush Jr. and FBHO combined!  Someone explain that!
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:55:39 AM EST
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And everyone laughed at Floridians for not wanting to five up theirs and said "itll never happen here"
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:56:10 AM EST
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Do not comply. Give them to someone in a free State to hold on to until you fix your State. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:56:11 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For arguments sake, did we lose our freedoms and not give one inch when DIAS's, lightning links and Atkins accelerator stocks were deemed machine guns, it wasn't an EO however it impinged upon your freedoms, where was the out cry then? ATF made you a felon if you had a spring to the accelerator stock, weren't they telling the manufacturer to give them a list of owners and you had to turn them in? If you have an unregistered DIAS or LL in your AR, you're a felon. What's the difference? I want to know. Before my gal lost and stupid plastic toy, answer the question, I'm curios. prove ownership of C&R license; i don't think you're really about that |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:56:35 AM EST
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Amnesty is the answer and add them to the nfa register |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:58:06 AM EST
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Has a draft of the EO been made available?
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:58:20 AM EST
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Posted: 11/29/2018 9:59:06 AM EST
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We need multiple states to set-up second amendment zones. These areas offer protection to those with undocumented firearms and components like sanctuary cities do with illegal immigrants...
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Posted: 11/29/2018 10:00:21 AM EST
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Is it time to neck-beard them yet? I can’t grow a beard, so this may or may not be a problem.
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Posted: 11/29/2018 10:01:31 AM EST
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No wonder this is being wrapped up after the ellection and long before 2020.
Trumps a politician now 
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Posted: 11/29/2018 10:01:55 AM EST
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It needs to go to the courts.
InB4 Hawaii Judge... |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 10:02:05 AM EST
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This is going to get destroyed in the courts before it ever goes into effect |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 10:02:12 AM EST
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Reality has no bearing on this situation. "At Trump's direction, however, the Justice Department submitted a proposed final rule earlier this year that upended the Obama-era interpretation, and concluded that bump-fire stocks, "slide-fire" devices, and devices with certain similar characteristics all fall within the prohibition on machine guns by allowing a "shooter of a semiautomatic firearm to initiate a continuous firing cycle with a single pull of the trigger," and therefore, they are illegal under federal law." Up is down. Black is white. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 10:02:59 AM EST
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Make no mistake, that's what this is really all about -- doing something that FBHO couldn't / wouldn't / didn't do. This is just another ego-boost for FDJT. He doesn't give a single care about the 2A. If anything, based on his previous comments as a Democrat, he's more anti-2A than he is pro-2A. In fact, he's now done absolutely nothing pro-2A and more damage to the 2A than Bush Jr. and FBHO combined! Someone explain that! |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 10:03:15 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seriously. Bumpstocks have been banned in multiple states. Compliance has been next to nothing. Hate when people project. Even if they are not complying, they are. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 10:03:56 AM EST
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Awe turn them in, ya right, we know some turned in their DIAS and LL, Some will turn in their bump stocks, but at the root of this, is nobody will know who didn't turn them in and how many are really out there, how many actually registered the FA guns when told to?
We and they don't know. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 10:04:01 AM EST
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We need multiple states to set-up second amendment zones. These areas offer protection to those with undocumented firearms and components like sanctuary cities do with illegal immigrants... |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 10:04:57 AM EST
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I wonder if this will finally be the straw that breaks the camel's back?
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Posted: 11/29/2018 10:06:02 AM EST
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What 2 regulations did he get rid of for him to sign this gem?
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Posted: 11/29/2018 10:06:24 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am sure they are enjoying those stocks at the public range with absolutely no fear of going to prison. Even if they are not complying, they are. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 10:06:30 AM EST
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Again for the slow. Imagine an america right now where trump had lost. Hillary making the calls. Democrat house. Possibly dem senate. 2 new liberal judges on the court. Trump isn't perfect, but he's a fuckload better than the alternative. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Make no mistake, that's what this is really all about -- doing something that FBHO couldn't / wouldn't / didn't do. This is just another ego-boost for FDJT. He doesn't give a single care about the 2A. If anything, based on his previous comments as a Democrat, he's more anti-2A than he is pro-2A. In fact, he's now done absolutely nothing pro-2A and more damage to the 2A than Bush Jr. and FBHO combined! Someone explain that! |
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