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Quoted: It's fun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdV-HIDRC1I 0-60 in 2.3 seconds will put a smile on your face. View Quote So they end up nailing it on the short straight stretches of road (like 85-90 MPH in a 40 zone) but then slam on the brakes and creep through the curves at 15-25 MPH and get offended that I catch up (not that I'm trying, I know what's going to happen on the curves). Then they start the whole cycle again. |
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Quoted: I just wish their owners would take a few driving courses. There are a bunch of them around where I'm living, along with a lot of very twisty roads, and it seems like every owner sees a Corvette in his rear view mirror and has to prove how fast he is. So they end up nailing it on the short straight stretches of road (like 85-90 MPH in a 40 zone) but then slam on the brakes and creep through the curves at 15-25 MPH and get offended that I catch up (not that I'm trying, I know what's going to happen on the curves). Then they start the whole cycle again. View Quote |
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How does Tesla manage to keep their wheels from spinning? Is it not something that can translate over to regular cars?
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It's fun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdV-HIDRC1I 0-60 in 2.3 seconds will put a smile on your face. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quoted: Rumor is the Zora variant will be the hybridized ICE rear/e-drive front. If true, the Z06 will be the true "pure" version (ie. I dislike hybrids). A full on electric version would be the game changer model, though. "...The Model S delivers immediate and scorching acceleration both from a standstill and at any speed. All trim levels have a top speed of 155 mph and come with two electric motors and a 100-kilowatt-hours lithium-ion battery pack. The principal differences between the trims are acceleration rates and range. The base Model S (previously called the 100D) can drive up to 370 miles on a single charge and goes from zero to 60 mph in 3.7 seconds. It has an mpg-equivalent rating of 111 combined city/highway. The Model S Performance, formerly known as the P100D, can reach 60 mph in 2.4 seconds. It has an estimated range of 345 miles and a 104 MPGe rating..." https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/tesla/model-s/performance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdV-HIDRC1I 0-60 in 2.3 seconds will put a smile on your face. |
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Quoted: Rumor is the Zora variant will be the hybridized ICE rear/e-drive front. If true, the Z06 will be the true "pure" version (ie. I dislike hybrids). A full on electric version would be the game changer model, though. "...The Model S delivers immediate and scorching acceleration both from a standstill and at any speed. All trim levels have a top speed of 155 mph and come with two electric motors and a 100-kilowatt-hours lithium-ion battery pack. The principal differences between the trims are acceleration rates and range. The base Model S (previously called the 100D) can drive up to 370 miles on a single charge and goes from zero to 60 mph in 3.7 seconds. It has an mpg-equivalent rating of 111 combined city/highway. The Model S Performance, formerly known as the P100D, can reach 60 mph in 2.4 seconds. It has an estimated range of 345 miles and a 104 MPGe rating..." https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/tesla/model-s/performance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdV-HIDRC1I 0-60 in 2.3 seconds will put a smile on your face. The problem I have is the weight when it comes to cornering. |
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Here is how I feel about the claim. They have tremendous reputational risk to claim that then not deliver. I get it's mid engine and still a tremendous value, but with the pre order volume if they don't deliver the blowback would be huge. You'd think there would be a video rather than their word. That said the formula makes me think they achieved it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Just to be clear - I hope everyone doesn't think I am loudly calling GM liars, or want the C8 to fail or anything like that. I think the C8 Corvette looks amazing, and everything about it seems really cool. I genuine think it's awesome, and I want it to succeed. I am just SKEPTICAL about the specific claim that a car costing less than $65k can do 0-60 in less than 3 seconds. I would love to be wrong ... even if it would emasculate my 911. |
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2020 C8 pricing starts at $59,995.00 after destination charges.
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/2020-chevy-c8-corvette-midengine-price-msrp/ When Chevrolet finally brought the mid-engine 2020 Corvette before the public, it made the audacious comment that this eighth-generation muscle car's base price would slide in under $60,000. Many figured that would be the price before the mandatory destination charge, but the truth is even better.
Chevrolet on Thursday announced pricing for the 2020 Corvette. It will start at $59,995, which includes a $1,095 destination charge. You're still on the hook for taxes, title fees and all that good stuff, however, and the true out-the-door price is subject to all that good stuff. That base price isn't exactly a penalty box, either. There's a whole bunch of quality standard equipment, including eight-way power seats, dual-zone automatic climate control, rear parking sensors, a 10-speaker Bose sound system, an 8-inch infotainment screen with Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, a 12-inch gauge display and LED headlights. More at link... View Quote |
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2020 C8 pricing starts at $59,995.00 after destination charges. https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/2020-chevy-c8-corvette-midengine-price-msrp/ View Quote |
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~Not content to drop just one piece of news, this morning Chevrolet reveals the official MSRP pricing of the 2020 Corvette Stingray as well as the fact that it will do 194 mph top speed as tested.
That, my friends, is Chevrolet keeping their promise of being true to the Corvette heritage. It’s all about offering attainable performance and a great exotic sports car design for the everyday American car buyer. Here’s a quick look at the official prices Chevrolet has included in the press release, and then we’ll get into what each package comes with so that you can best determine what you want (or on the flip side, which options you can live without). The 2020 Corvette Stingray: PACKAGE/OPTIONPRICE 1LT$59,995 2LT$67,295 3LT$71,945 Z51 Performance Package$5,000 NPP Performance Exhaust$1,195 Front Lift System$1,495 The pricing that’s shown on the three different packages INCLUDES the $1,095 Destination Charge. So in reality, the real base price of the car is $58,900. I think the biggest surprise for us is the fact that the 2LT trim package which has always been the sweet spot is now showing an increase of over $3,000 from the C7’s 2LT price. Granted, there is a lot of great technology offered but at $7,300, we may have more than a few opting for the 1LT, especially if the Z51 package is a must-have box that must be checked! Speaking of the Z51, that package price remains the same as the C7’s price and includes bigger brakes, a manually adjustable suspension and more. Well done, Chevy!! There’s still a lot of unanswered questions including pricing for the various exterior trim, the interior carbon fiber package, optional wheels and more. We will be following up this post with that info and more when it comes available. So now let’s dive in and take a look at the various standard and optional equipment that’s included in each of the three trim packages as well as the Z51 Performance Package. 1LT – Starts at $59,995 The base 2020 Corvette Stingray includes: 6.2L Small Block V-8 LT2 engine, producing an SAE-rated 490 horsepower (965 kW) and 465 lb-ft of torque (630 Nm) 8-speed dual-clutch transmission with paddle shifters 8-way power GT1 Seats with Mulan leather Removable body-color roof panel Front and Rear E-boost assisted disc brakes with Brembo four-piston/two-piece front calipers and four-piston/ monoblock rear calipers Michelin Pilot Sport ALS run-flat performance all-season tires with tire pressure and temperature monitoring. Traction control with active handling and launch control Keyless access with push-button start Driver mode selector (Tour, Sport, Track, Weather, MyMode and Z-Made) Dual-zone electronic climate control Capless fueling Cruise control Dual power remote heated sport mirror Central locking interior storage ~ glove box / console HD Rear Vision Camera and Rear Park Assist Power pull-down hatch Leather-wrapped steering wheel with power tilt and telescoping functionality Bose 10-speaker premium sound system with 3-month SiriusXM free trial 8-in diagonal color touch screen with Chevrolet’s latest infotainment system 12-in configurable color cluster display One-touch Bluetooth pairing through Near Field Communication Apple CarPlay and Android Auto capabilities Steering wheel controls OnStar one month trial Power window express up/down LED lighting with automatic headlamps Cabin air filtration 2LT – Starts at $67,295 Includes most of the standard content on the 1LT, plus: Full-color head-up display Power lumbar and wing seat adjustment Wireless phone charging Heated and ventilated seats Heated steering wheel Bose 14-speaker Performance Series audio system Navigation with traffic Performance Data Recorder Universal Home Remote Power folding mirrors Rear Camera Mirror with auto-dimming Driver and passenger side seat memory package Front Curb View Camera SirusXM Satellite Radio with a one-year subscription Side Blind Zone Alert Rear Cross Traffic Alert Advanced theft deterrent system Parcel nets 3LT – Starts at $71,945 Includes most of the standard content on the 1LT and 2LT, plus: GT2 seats with Napa and Mulan leather seating surfaces and carbon fiber trim Custom leather-wrapped interior Suede-wrapped upper interior trim Leather-wrapped door panels Z51 Performance Package – $5,000 The popular Z51 Performance Package price remains unchanged at $5,000 and takes any trim of Corvette to new heights. The package launches the new mid-engine Stingray from 0-60 mph in fewer than 3 seconds, nearly a second faster than the 2019 Corvette Stingray Paired with the 1LT trim, that level of performance can be had for less than $65,000. The Z51 Performance Package adds: NPP Performance exhaust Performance suspension with manually adjustable threaded spring seats Electronic limited-slip differential Front splitter Rear spoiler Larger than standard front end rear E-Boost-assisted disc brakes with Brembo four-piston monobloc caliper at front and rear with Z51 logo Michelin Pilot Sport 4S summer only Performance tires Enhanced cooling Specific axle ratio Front brake cooling inlets Other Key Options The NPP Performance exhaust is priced at $1,195. This exhaust system boosts the Stingray’s power output to an SAE-rated 495 horsepower (369 kW) and 470 lb-ft (637 Nm) of torque. The Innovative front suspension lift system that can store up to 1,000 locations for automatic activation will be available on 2LT and 3LT trims for $1,495. Customers have an unprecedented level at personalization and can select from 12 exterior colors, six interior color themes, six seat belt colors, two optional stitch packages and three seat choices. https://media.chevrolet.com/media/us/en/chevrolet/home.detail.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2019/aug/0815-corvette-pricing.html Basically, the 2LT with Z51 and front suspension lift has the same MSRP as my current 2LT Z51 C7. ETA: Adding the MSRC will add another $2K to the price, so it's slightly more expensive than the MSRP on my 2017 |
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Many new sports cars will do close to 200 pretty easily, unless they are limited. Even my type R's top speed is 174mph right off the lot, and that's a 4cyl 2.0 liter turbo. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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I’m sure you know, but that 20 mph is a big difference. View Quote All I'm saying is getting to 200mph (or close) is becoming fairly common in modern sports cars. |
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Yes it is. It becomes a horsepower game. Drag is velocity squared, so you usually just have to gain the speed through sheer power. Aero can make a difference, but not as much as people think for top speed. (unless it's like a purpose built streamliner type top speed car) All I'm saying is getting to 200mph (or close) is becoming fairly common in modern sports cars. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I’m sure you know, but that 20 mph is a big difference. All I'm saying is getting to 200mph (or close) is becoming fairly common in modern sports cars. SO WHY DOES EVERYONE MERGE AND DRIVE LIKE ITS 1974??? |
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I'm supposed to be on Road Atlanta in September and looking at the sign up sheet there is supposed to be someone there with a 2020 Corvette. Now that is planning ahead!
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2020 C8 pricing starts at $59,995.00 after destination charges. https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/2020-chevy-c8-corvette-midengine-price-msrp/ View Quote ... the cynical side of me wonders if there will be a price hike next year. Maybe they are willing to sell at a loss for a year, just to keep their promise and to get the buzz/hope out there. Regardless, that is awesome. |
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The more I see it, the more I like it. I would hold out till a Z06 or ZR1 model though.
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I love that episode. I always hated how Clarkson would poke the rear bumper and make fun of the “low build quality” flex. You can do the exact same thing to a number of “quality” sports cars. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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“Oh yeah! I forgot. I’m gonna pay another hundred grand to get walked on the highway by some good ol’ boy named Cleatus and his fat brother Roy!” View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
“Oh yeah! I forgot. I’m gonna pay another hundred grand to get walked on the highway by some good ol’ boy named Cleatus and his fat brother Roy!” An oil change on a Mclaren F1 is around $8,000, and it'll cost you about $30k per year to maintain. They're expensive as hell to buy, and expensive as hell to own, and everyone knows that. That's why people buy McLarens. |
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Quoted: People who buy a Mclaren aren't buying the car for it's performance. The fact that a man of relatively modest means can own a C8 corvette, is why they won't buy a C8. An oil change on a Mclaren F1 is around $8,000, and it'll cost you about $30k per year to maintain. They're expensive as hell to buy, and expensive as hell to own, and everyone knows that. That's why people buy McLarens. View Quote |
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Sheeeeeeeit! 8k for an oil change? They changing half the motor with it? I mean besides being expensive for the sake and prestige of being expensive....why? I'm just morbidly curious at this point. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: People who buy a Mclaren aren't buying the car for it's performance. The fact that a man of relatively modest means can own a C8 corvette, is why they won't buy a C8. An oil change on a Mclaren F1 is around $8,000, and it'll cost you about $30k per year to maintain. They're expensive as hell to buy, and expensive as hell to own, and everyone knows that. That's why people buy McLarens. |
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Sheeeeeeeit! 8k for an oil change? They changing half the motor with it? I mean besides being expensive for the sake and prestige of being expensive....why? I'm just morbidly curious at this point. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: People who buy a Mclaren aren't buying the car for it's performance. The fact that a man of relatively modest means can own a C8 corvette, is why they won't buy a C8. An oil change on a Mclaren F1 is around $8,000, and it'll cost you about $30k per year to maintain. They're expensive as hell to buy, and expensive as hell to own, and everyone knows that. That's why people buy McLarens. |
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Sheeeeeeeit! 8k for an oil change? They changing half the motor with it? I mean besides being expensive for the sake and prestige of being expensive....why? I'm just morbidly curious at this point. View Quote If you own something like a 570 or 720s, expect to pay about 1200-1500 dollars per oil change. Source: I am good buddies with the sales manager at motorcars of GA. They also do service, obviously. |
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That is fucking awesome! ... the cynical side of me wonders if there will be a price hike next year. Maybe they are willing to sell at a loss for a year, just to keep their promise and to get the buzz/hope out there. Regardless, that is awesome. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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2020 C8 pricing starts at $59,995.00 after destination charges. https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/2020-chevy-c8-corvette-midengine-price-msrp/ ... the cynical side of me wonders if there will be a price hike next year. Maybe they are willing to sell at a loss for a year, just to keep their promise and to get the buzz/hope out there. Regardless, that is awesome. As much as the "purists" are decrying the engine move, the sales numbers aren't lying, people aren't just a little hyped over this, they are over the moon ecstatic about what GM has done. I watched a video showing the interior and exterior, how the targa gets stowed, leg room.... it's a really REALLY nice car. That said, that 60k number isn't reality, it's just a sales pitch. We all know that most people at a minimum are going to want the 2LT package, and probably the Z51 as well. So now we're looking at over $70k. Then again, my new truck MSRP'd at just about the same price as an 2LT+Z51 Corvette. I didn't pay anywhere close to that for it... but that's what the sticker said. |
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Quoted: Look up changing the oil on a Bugatti. You have to take half the back end of the car apart. It runs over $20k View Quote |
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Its a liquid, it doesn't need a lot of clearance to move around and gravity can help you. You have to actively try to design a $20k oil change. You could get 95% of the way through designing a car and have forgotten that it needs to be able to change the oil and find a way to change it without spending $20k. I mean that's just fuck you money because the owners have it. Which I understand, I mean not really, I don't have fuck you money, and at this point in life even if I won eleventy billion tomorrow I've been frugal my whole life...I'd die with most of it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Look up changing the oil on a Bugatti. You have to take half the back end of the car apart. It runs over $20k I want to know how one breaks into working on these ridiculous cars? Shit even the cheepy $1,500 oil change would be a sweet gig... |
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Quoted: I don't have an issue believing GM This is why I feel that way, what are the things you need for a go fast 0-60 which are not mutually exclusive. Power Light weight Traction Gearing a base c7 is a 3.7 0-60 car I beleive power, GM engines make the power no debate there Now with a C7 there's a lot of extra weight in there because the engine is ahead of the driver and the other stuff is behind. so the C8 is probably lighter traction, the new tires they have should be sticky icky...for illustrative purposes a c6 z06 with rag radials at sea level is a 10 second car. that's a quic 0-60 gearing...the new trans is probably going to be awesome and let you have 8 gears and you can probably pop off shits ricky tik. So that should help. We shall see. Don't worry about your 911 being slower, somthing will come along and be faster than the c8 |
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That is a little disappointing. My V6 4-door sedan (really holds 4 adults, not 2 adults + 2 midgets) does 191 stock. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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They probably do it to make the car expensive to maintain on purpose. Still it's shithouse engineering IMHO. Put a fucking drain plug and a fill hole and a fucking oil filter you can access. I want to know how one breaks into working on these ridiculous cars? Shit even the cheepy $1,500 oil change would be a sweet gig... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quoted: People who buy a Mclaren aren't buying the car for it's performance. The fact that a man of relatively modest means can own a C8 corvette, is why they won't buy a C8. An oil change on a Mclaren F1 is around $8,000, and it'll cost you about $30k per year to maintain. They're expensive as hell to buy, and expensive as hell to own, and everyone knows that. That's why people buy McLarens. Amen! Stop the c8 is a supercar/exotic nonsense. Its a chevy, not a McLaren/Ferrari/Lambo... it will put the power down and perform very well. But its a chevy and will always be a chevy. There will be 40,000 manufactured a year. Its the poor mans supercar. Not a hater, i am on the order list. Love what it is. Lets be realistic about what it is... View Quote |
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Imagine in 6 or 7 years when these fuckers hit the used market at $35-40k. Dad just got a 2011 Grand Sport, mint condition with 9k miles for $35k
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