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Quoted: @BURN What magwell is that? I'm not really a fan of the one I have on my FS and wouldn't mind upgrading. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: @BURN What magwell is that? I'm not really a fan of the one I have on my FS and wouldn't mind upgrading. https://3dprintedgungear.com/ But requires replacing mag bases so for 6 magazines = $330 or so. @WI-2021 |
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View Quote This. The prices are still acceptable for the FS, so I'm going to get another one real soon to go with my LTT |
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Quoted: https://3dprintedgungear.com/ But requires replacing mag bases so for 6 magazines = $330 or so. @WI-2021 View Quote Ouch! Thanks for the info. I wonder if the Springer +4 basepads work with it, or could be made to work. That would make the cost a lot more reasonable, since I already have the Springers. |
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Quoted: I am a huge Beretta fan, specifically the 92 series. Got quite a few of them, so here's my two cents. The 92 cannot be separated into daily carry and nightstand gun on anything but aesthetics. The 92 comes in one size, it just has variants with a slightly shorter barrel (better part of an inch) and slightly shorter grip. IMHO the grip length really isn't enough to be substantive, and I have two Compacts. The shorter barrel length on the Compact is fairly substantial, and the loss of length doesn't really affect velocity so there is no reason beyond being a collector to get a full size. That leaves the Centurion size to be in my opinion the best "only one to have" Beretta 92. It has the full size grip, shorter barrel, it's as small as a 92 can get without losing capacity for a tiny bit shorter grip. However the Compact, if you get an X-Grip spacer and full size magazines, can be both a Centurion and a Compact as you can switch between the shorter and full size grip. So unless you must have that slightly longer barrel the Compact size is the most flexible and will serve as nightstand or carry. As for the rail, that's purely an aesthetic choice as it doesn't really ad much bulk to the frame, you won't notice it in size or weight while carrying. If you're going to use it as both get the railed version for the flexibility in mounting a light. If you're feeling flush with cash or simply love 92s like I do you will have a non-railed Compact with X-Grip spacer and a railed full-size LTT Elite to sit on your nightstand because it has many QoL improvements. Also try the Vertec Grip vs Standard, the former has grips that make it fit like a standard so it may just behoove you to get that and call it a day. In short: Compact Vertec (92x) with Rail, a few full size 17 round magazines, a few compact 15 round magazines, and a few X-Grip adapters is the best all-around 92 if you're going to have just one. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The 92 is something I've wanted for a while now. For you guys who use them as a daily carry, which variant is the best? Conversely, which is the best for a nightstand gun? (Assuming non railed for carry and railed for at home). Does anyone here carry a railed model? I am a huge Beretta fan, specifically the 92 series. Got quite a few of them, so here's my two cents. The 92 cannot be separated into daily carry and nightstand gun on anything but aesthetics. The 92 comes in one size, it just has variants with a slightly shorter barrel (better part of an inch) and slightly shorter grip. IMHO the grip length really isn't enough to be substantive, and I have two Compacts. The shorter barrel length on the Compact is fairly substantial, and the loss of length doesn't really affect velocity so there is no reason beyond being a collector to get a full size. That leaves the Centurion size to be in my opinion the best "only one to have" Beretta 92. It has the full size grip, shorter barrel, it's as small as a 92 can get without losing capacity for a tiny bit shorter grip. However the Compact, if you get an X-Grip spacer and full size magazines, can be both a Centurion and a Compact as you can switch between the shorter and full size grip. So unless you must have that slightly longer barrel the Compact size is the most flexible and will serve as nightstand or carry. As for the rail, that's purely an aesthetic choice as it doesn't really ad much bulk to the frame, you won't notice it in size or weight while carrying. If you're going to use it as both get the railed version for the flexibility in mounting a light. If you're feeling flush with cash or simply love 92s like I do you will have a non-railed Compact with X-Grip spacer and a railed full-size LTT Elite to sit on your nightstand because it has many QoL improvements. Also try the Vertec Grip vs Standard, the former has grips that make it fit like a standard so it may just behoove you to get that and call it a day. In short: Compact Vertec (92x) with Rail, a few full size 17 round magazines, a few compact 15 round magazines, and a few X-Grip adapters is the best all-around 92 if you're going to have just one. I pretty much don't carry a gun without a light, so it's a lot more than aesthetics. Lights aren't nearly the PITA people make them out to be, especially with some of the modern options from Streamlight (TLR-7A, TLR-9), but I still prefer the TLR-1HL when I can get away with it. And once you're carrying something that long there's really not much advantage to a shorter barrel. But then I'm also the weirdo who carries two lights most of the time and goes to bed around when most people get up. |
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Quoted: I snagged my M9 last year before the current panic for $440 and ffl. I wish I had grabbed 2 or 3 of them now View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Nice. I prefer the M1911A1 series due to it being made up of fewer parts and thus less prone to breakage (such as trigger springs or magazine release assemblies that I've witnessed), but I still own two Beretta 92s that I enjoy, so call me conflicted. For all their faults, they are well made and a high quality handgun. Arms Unlimited had M9s for $525.00 last week and I was sooooo tempted to buy a third. I snagged my M9 last year before the current panic for $440 and ffl. I wish I had grabbed 2 or 3 of them now That was a really good price. |
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Quoted: Inox Beret; https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1143/4886/products/KNITWOOLBERETTAUPE.jpg?v=1602708470 View Quote Beretta thread, Now with Bad Dad Jokes! ;) |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Nice. I prefer the M1911A1 series due to it being made up of fewer parts and thus less prone to breakage (such as trigger springs or magazine release assemblies that I've witnessed), but I still own two Beretta 92s that I enjoy, so call me conflicted. For all their faults, they are well made and a high quality handgun. Arms Unlimited had M9s for $525.00 last week and I was sooooo tempted to buy a third. I snagged my M9 last year before the current panic for $440 and ffl. I wish I had grabbed 2 or 3 of them now That was a really good price. Gunprime, back before the panic. PSA was also selling either those or 92Fs's cheap summer 2019.....back in the good old salad days |
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Quoted: Gunprime, back before the panic. PSA was also selling either those or 92Fs's cheap summer 2019.....back in the good old salad days View Quote Yep,got mine for $428.00 My FFL could not believe it,was a $100 less than his buy price for them.[GunPrime] Has became one of my favorite handguns ever.Just over 1K thru it now. |
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Quoted: Yep,got mine for $428.00 My FFL could not believe it,was a $100 less than his buy price for them.[GunPrime] Has became one of my favorite handguns ever.Just over 1K thru it now. View Quote I've kept my M9 NIB, since I had a 92FS already. I was wanting a Italian made one also when the panic hit. I told myself if I saw a gun before Xmas decent price I'd snag it and the Beretta I posted this thread was in a local shop I checked out I figured current market and it was my stimulus payment of $600 I "had" to buy a gun with it. The 1st one I got I used to snag a red box Sig P-229 Elite for $700 bucks and a case of Korean .30 Carbine ammo. The Hiden/Ho people send my that 2K I'll use it to pay for this https://www.fulton-armory.com/carbineuscal30m1.aspx Ordered that last week. I have 1 here but you know the ARFCOM rule, 2 is 1 and 1 is none |
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Quoted: I am a huge Beretta fan, specifically the 92 series. Got quite a few of them, so here's my two cents. The 92 cannot be separated into daily carry and nightstand gun on anything but aesthetics. The 92 comes in one size, it just has variants with a slightly shorter barrel (better part of an inch) and slightly shorter grip. IMHO the grip length really isn't enough to be substantive, and I have two Compacts. The shorter barrel length on the Compact is fairly substantial, and the loss of length doesn't really affect velocity so there is no reason beyond being a collector to get a full size. That leaves the Centurion size to be in my opinion the best "only one to have" Beretta 92. It has the full size grip, shorter barrel, it's as small as a 92 can get without losing capacity for a tiny bit shorter grip. However the Compact, if you get an X-Grip spacer and full size magazines, can be both a Centurion and a Compact as you can switch between the shorter and full size grip. So unless you must have that slightly longer barrel the Compact size is the most flexible and will serve as nightstand or carry. As for the rail, that's purely an aesthetic choice as it doesn't really ad much bulk to the frame, you won't notice it in size or weight while carrying. If you're going to use it as both get the railed version for the flexibility in mounting a light. If you're feeling flush with cash or simply love 92s like I do you will have a non-railed Compact with X-Grip spacer and a railed full-size LTT Elite to sit on your nightstand because it has many QoL improvements. Also try the Vertec Grip vs Standard, the former has grips that make it fit like a standard so it may just behoove you to get that and call it a day. In short: Compact Vertec (92x) with Rail, a few full size 17 round magazines, a few compact 15 round magazines, and a few X-Grip adapters is the best all-around 92 if you're going to have just one. View Quote Great answer and right along with what I had suspected. Thank you! |
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Quoted: I have EDC both full sized and compact. https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/uu220/ramairfour/image_zpsalwjmg3b.jpeg There are a couple of issues with the Beretta design, say compared to a similar period designed wonder 9 such as the CZ75. Front sight. Quoted as a military feature, they were slow to adopt baseline models with an easily changed front sight. Trigger guard. Quoted as a military feature for gloves, they made it so large on the ore military versions it made the mag release very low. This made for very little real estate for your fingers when they go to a compact or sub compact design. The compact version, because of the low magazine release was not able to trim much length off the grip. They then used the same hammer strut/spring as the full sized and have never designed a shorter one. They were unable to get the level of reliability they wanted when shortening the upper. This led to the Centurion and Compact basically only being 1/2 inch shorter than full sized. They were never, until very recently, all that responsive to the market. CZ swept in and gave the market everything it asked for. The design of the CZ was amenable to shorter uppers, plus true compact and true subcompact grip sizes. They were also much more responsive, and at a better price point, for a variety of materials, steel, allow, polymer frames, etc. Beretta price accessories and parts more than other companies, plus had spotty availability and support on top of that. Beretta kind of ignored their flagship 92 for decades with a let them eat cake attitude, and dropped a failed pistol line, another failed pistol line, another failed 92 version, a 92 version nobody asked for, and another failed but they have not admitted has failed pistol line. (Cougar, 9000, 90-two, 92A1, PX4). They went all in on a new polymer striker Gun, currently on fire sale, that was a very mediocre offering despite decades of data. https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/uu220/ramairfour/image_zpsalwjmg3b.jpeg View Quote You know why???? They made there money off the .Gov.... Until Sig broke their rice bowl. There is a trend in that slow to civy market.. Colt had it for years.. Same with Leupold and Trijicon and FN. Seems that they have to loose that sweet .Gov check before they then decide to look at the civillian market. |
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I agree .gov contracts can be a full trough for companies,
Then be their undoing when they need to be on the market. |
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Dammit, Miami.
Now I want a 92x Performance and 92x Compact in addition to the M9A3. Stop costing me money. Also for fellow 92 fans see Mike_314's thread on Beretta's president's day sale. |
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Quoted: Dammit, Miami. Now I want a 92x Performance and 92x Compact in addition to the M9A3. Stop costing me money. Also for fellow 92 fans see Mike_314's thread on Beretta's president's day sale. View Quote I agree, I’m back to wanting an M9A1 again now |
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I love my M9, but it’s constant failures at cola warrior have relegated it to a purely range gun. I wouldn’t want to carry it or rely on it for self defense
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Quoted: I love my M9, but it’s constant failures at cola warrior have relegated it to a purely range gun. I wouldn’t want to carry it or rely on it for self defense View Quote Something is not right. I went to dozens of matches, have seen dozens train over a decade, and it’s reliability is pretty solid. |
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Quoted: My 92FS is the most reliable gun I've ever owned, something isn't right with your M9. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I love my M9, but it’s constant failures at cola warrior have relegated it to a purely range gun. I wouldn’t want to carry it or rely on it for self defense My 92FS is the most reliable gun I've ever owned, something isn't right with your M9. Attached File Yeah the 92 series is very reliable. Check for a crack in the locking block, or the slide. Check the recoil spring and the ejector. Something is broken, worn out or about to break. |
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Quoted: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/hes_right_you_know-328.jpg Yeah the 92 series is very reliable. Check for a crack in the locking block, or the slide. Check the recoil spring and the ejector. Something is broken, worn out or about to break. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I love my M9, but it’s constant failures at cola warrior have relegated it to a purely range gun. I wouldn’t want to carry it or rely on it for self defense My 92FS is the most reliable gun I've ever owned, something isn't right with your M9. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/hes_right_you_know-328.jpg Yeah the 92 series is very reliable. Check for a crack in the locking block, or the slide. Check the recoil spring and the ejector. Something is broken, worn out or about to break. Check those mags too. |
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My favorite Beretta
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I love my M9, but it’s constant failures at cola warrior have relegated it to a purely range gun. I wouldn’t want to carry it or rely on it for self defense My 92FS is the most reliable gun I've ever owned, something isn't right with your M9. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/hes_right_you_know-328.jpg Yeah the 92 series is very reliable. Check for a crack in the locking block, or the slide. Check the recoil spring and the ejector. Something is broken, worn out or about to break. Check those mags too. This. |
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Quoted: https://i.imgur.com/ZZrsXrL.jpg https://i.imgur.com/3bZ3EET.jpg https://i.imgur.com/w9as435.jpg https://i.imgur.com/mi7Pkmp.jpg?1 View Quote I just missed out on a well used Elite II a few years back for cheap. It was posted on a local gun sale board. I was going to pair the slide with an M9A1 frame I have. It would have been a great fighting pistol. Basically a pre-LTT. I missed the ad by 5ish minutes. |
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Quoted: I just missed out on a well used Elite II a few years back for cheap. It was posted on a local gun sale board. I was going to pair the slide with an M9A1 frame I have. It would have been a great fighting pistol. Basically a pre-LTT. I missed the ad by 5ish minutes. View Quote |
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Quoted: @Charlie_Foxtrot, I paid $200 for my 96G Brigader Elite II. Lou's Police Supply of Hialeah, FL had it along with a regular 96FS at that price. It was when EVERYONE was ditching DA/SA and going to GLOCK in the mid 00s. It was a no brainer. I snagged the 96G Elite II and it is honestly my favorite .40 S&W handgun and Beretta. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I just missed out on a well used Elite II a few years back for cheap. It was posted on a local gun sale board. I was going to pair the slide with an M9A1 frame I have. It would have been a great fighting pistol. Basically a pre-LTT. I missed the ad by 5ish minutes. Before the M9A3 came out Beretta’s would sit and sit on the local gun board here. I got a 92FS for $300. I bought an Inox from 1998 for $400. I snatched up a lot of good deals back then. Nobody wanted Beretta’s. When the A3 came out people stated noticing how good the 92 series actually is and all the deals dried up. At one point I had so many 92s I started stripping them down for spare parts. Back then you could buy checkmate mags for $9 each. At one point I had over 100 checkmate mags. Bought a lot of them off the EE. |
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Quoted: Before the M9A3 came out Beretta's would sit and sit on the local gun board here. I got a 92FS for $300. I bought an Inox from 1998 for $400. I snatched up a lot of good deals back then. Nobody wanted Beretta's. When the A3 came out people stated noticing how good the 92 series actually is and all the deals dried up. At one point I had so many 92s I started stripping them down for spare parts. Back then you could buy checkmate mags for $9 each. At one point I had over 100 checkmate mags. Bought a lot of them off the EE. View Quote |
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Quoted: Never bought the Checkmates. But I have a literal pile of factory Beretta 15rd mags. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Before the M9A3 came out Beretta's would sit and sit on the local gun board here. I got a 92FS for $300. I bought an Inox from 1998 for $400. I snatched up a lot of good deals back then. Nobody wanted Beretta's. When the A3 came out people stated noticing how good the 92 series actually is and all the deals dried up. At one point I had so many 92s I started stripping them down for spare parts. Back then you could buy checkmate mags for $9 each. At one point I had over 100 checkmate mags. Bought a lot of them off the EE. The post 2010 Checkmates are good to go. If you find them cheap buy em. Prior to 2010 they had a parkerized finish inside and out. The finish on the inside caused the follower to drag. This issue was caused by the Army specing out the magazines wrong. Checkmate tried to avoid making them like this but in the end the checkmate mags made from 2003 to 2009 had this issue. The issue was addressed and like I said the 2010 mags and up are fine. The checkmate mags all have a year date on them so it’s easy to know which is which. |
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Quoted: The post 2010 Checkmates are good to go. If you find them cheap buy em. Prior to 2010 they had a parkerized finish inside and out. The finish on the inside caused the follower to drag. This issue was caused by the Army specing out the magazines wrong. Checkmate tried to avoid making them like this but in the end the checkmate mags made from 2003 to 2009 had this issue. The issue was addressed and like I said the 2010 mags and up are fine. The checkmate mags all have a year date on them so it’s easy to know which is which. View Quote Yep. All mine are post-2009 and work fine. |
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In all fairness to Checkmate,
Yes, the MHS of that period, combined with that fine sand powder of the AO were shit. But that was a design feature they were directed and required to meet. |
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I have 2 92FS and a M9A3. this was supposed to be the wife's but she likes her cheapo PPX better. My favorite service pistol by far is the 92 series. We should have gone for the M9A3 instead of the Sig. Another procurement fuckup.
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My first 9mm was a S&W M39 ( single stack vs the 59)
Sadly ,what a POS (hell the RO at the time noticed I was a decent shooter & asked to try it out, his conclusion was the same as mine. Shoot towards Oklahoma but find the round landed in Louisiana Put a Beretta 92s on layaway. Loved that girl. Sadly, like most handguns I’ve owned, sold them for various needs to support my young family. Well, the decades of the past find me owning a new Beretta. Another Italian . M93A Now the thought & desire to own another 1970’s Colt Python, is sadly our of the question. Suffice it for say, Just glad to have this beauty. Attached File |
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I've shot a couple of his pistols and Langdon Tactical makes the best 92 I've ever seen.
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You just gotta love James Woods.
A post on Gab of a graphic of a Joy Reid Tweet in 2017 and Woods' reply- Her comment was, "The NRA is soaked and bathed in blood. How do it's adherents sleep at night?" James Woods replied, "With a Beretta on the nightstand in case yet another Democrat decides to go on a rampage." |
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Quoted: @Charlie_Foxtrot, I paid $200 for my 96G Brigader Elite II. Lou's Police Supply of Hialeah, FL had it along with a regular 96FS at that price. It was when EVERYONE was ditching DA/SA and going to GLOCK in the mid 00s. It was a no brainer. I snagged the 96G Elite II and it is honestly my favorite .40 S&W handgun and Beretta. View Quote Change the recoil and mainsprings at 1k to 1500 rounds intervals. Buy a multi-pack from Wolf or spend more money and get ISMI. The 96 series was really not designed for .40. They just threw a bigger barrel in and said, "Finito." The Brigadier is an attempt to rectify that. But, really, frequent spring changes and lubrication will help keep your 96 running. I attended Beretta LE Armorer school in 98 and carried a Vertec 96G on-duty for a couple of years. |
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Here is a great interview with Ernest Langdon on many of the 92 models, especially special and aftermarket editions of the last 20 or so years.
Talking Guns with Ernest Langdon | Higher Line Podcast #54 |
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I have a pile of milsurp mags I got dirt cheap, most are checkmate. All the rough finish is wore off. I replaced all the springs and they run great.
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