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Posted: 2/6/2022 10:51:32 PM EDT
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They should let the tow trucks remove them.
Take the trucks to the yard. Pay an impound fee. Then swing by the gas station. Guarantee that the time it takes to hook up a big rig is equal or greater than the time it takes to refill. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 10:51:43 PM EDT
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Hmm.
I'm thinking the nasty calls from wealthy donors have made their mark on the politicians, who got to the PD. I don't think they saw this going a week, and growing. Once they saw the bouncy castles and the fuel depots, it became an "occupation", which as we know is only okay if you're 1) Left wing 2) "fighting" for a lefty cause and hurting normal people's businesses 3) NOT in the capital city, because, THOSE people are important.  I think the line drawn is "occupation" protest, with concern over a "next time". I'm guessing the truckers would go to Phase2, a halftime adjustment. Leave city, refuel, return. If they make THAT hard? Sit home. Sit home and let them suffer. There won't be honking, but their precious cardboard boxes won't arrive. And it looks like these protests get mainstream and big on the weekends. The way I see it? The PEACEFUL nature of the nature of the protest is the magic. IMHO politically they are ahead on the scoreboard, and because their offensive line is too big for the commies to do anything about. Keep running the ball, keep running the protest, and peacefully. If they hold the vote of no confidence - and Castro Jr survives because it's a sham vote? And the PD kicks them out. And they make honking a horn in the city a $14,000 fine and jailtime and all that? Fine. Sit home. Alll the truckers sit home. NOW what. You already banned them from working, eat the fucking cake you baked dumbasses. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 10:51:49 PM EDT
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People, save the web pages ... file/save/html-complete, save the videos, stick them on thumb drives or burn it to disc.
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Posted: 2/6/2022 10:53:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The lack of food can and will change things. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 10:55:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They are blocking "All material support" for the truckers. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I agree.. and.. Start bringing in a shit load of 2 liter MtDew bottles filled with diesel, Pack it in with the food deliveries. Good luck with that. The truckers can block "all material support" to them. They don't have the resources for a Berlin Airlift. If the truckers decide to squeeze the cops out of existence, the cops lose. Simple as that. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 10:57:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They should let the tow trucks remove them. Take the trucks to the yard. Pay an impound fee. Then swing by the gas station. Guarantee that the time it takes to hook up a big rig is equal or greater than the time it takes to refill. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 10:57:16 PM EDT
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Lincoln Jay just confronted a cop about their seizing fuel and putting people in danger and the cop basically said, Just following orders.
Sounds like there are reinforcement coming in from a wide area. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 10:57:27 PM EDT
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The problem with 'Go Home' is they didn't know their own strength until they saw it materialize, nor did the Left.
The media will start bombarding them, and independents, with lies and doctored stories about how evil the movement is, and how its falling apart, and almost everyone has gone back to work and is getting the jab. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 10:58:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: People, save the web pages ... file/save/html-complete, save the videos, stick them on thumb drives or burn it to disc. Yup. HDD is cheap and plentiful. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:00:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ... snip The way I see it? The PEACEFUL nature of the nature of the protest is the magic. IMHO politically they are ahead on the scoreboard, and because their offensive line is too big for the commies to do anything about. Keep running the ball, keep running the protest, and peacefully. ... snip  Attached FileGovernments are loaded for bear for violent riots and protests they don't want to happen. Every one of us knows what tank man means for a reason. ETA: I mean, sacrifice is powerful stuff. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:02:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I understand that people have a lot mentally invested into lobby day or armed protest/marches. Folks really need to step back and look at the big picture. You really think what's happening in Canada is even a tiny bit like Lobby day was? Really??? Think about that for a moment! Pick a high number, let's say 40,000 armed Canadians showed up in Ottawa for a "lobby Day" just like VA. Fences went up, extra LE called in, schedules adjusted, nerves on edge FOR ONE DAY. Nothing of any significance happens, nobody resigns, no policy changes, then everyone packs up and goes home. A week later you'd never know anything unusual occurred. Oh, but we got all these armed citizens together!!!! So fucking what????? Did the citizenry show themselves mission capable? Did we see basics of teamwork/chain of command like drill and Ceremony performed? Were there impromptu squads, platoons and companies doing dry practicing fire and maneuver???? Anything other than proving a bunch of people being armed in and of itself doesn't mean shit?????? Canadians have a different culture than us. Similar, but different. They have been smart enough to mount a meaningful protest, one that is actually lasting more than a day and "may" lead to achieving some goals. It'll be a while before we know how successful the Freedom Convoy was. We already have the benefit of hindsight to know that Lobby Day didn't accomplish shit in the big picture. Rather than live in a delusional bubble believing something major was accomplished, why not instead try figuring out a successful strategy???? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Maybe, maybe not. Richmond 2020 Lobby Day was pure bottled lightning. Not one shot fired, city left cleaner than originally found, ruling class scared shitless. Sorry friend, but that's completely delusional. 2020 Lobby Day did exactly NOTHING for our side. It did provide intel for the .gov. Also it was EXTREAMELY reassuring to them that "we" are no actual threat. We don't know for sure what might have actually accomplished something. Maybe, perhaps leaving all the guns at home but bringing hand tools and tents? Tearing down the fences and camping on the lawn for weeks??? I don't claim to have an answer, but I can tell you that in the big picture, only a tiny number of people in a little dinky state were affected by lobby day. People were scared of the unknown on lobby day. Nobody knew what *might* happen. The fear was some nutball setting off a tragic chain reaction. Virtually NOBODY was scared of fathers, mothers, teachers, plumbers, etc standing around with guns. Lobby day PROVED that without some kind of radical lighting a fuse there is ZERO to be worried or afraid of since it's clearly proven to be a bunch of useless posturing. At this point in American history, Civil disobedience that puts fear into tyrants is going to require stashing the guns and getting out different tools. Right now, the Canadians have found a working formula. It remains to be seen how effective .gov countermeasures will be and whether the Canadian people can out last them. What complete equine excrement. Lobby Day 2020 stopped a certain-to-pass AWB dead in its tracks. Period. Second, and more importantly, it completely and utterly destroyed the lame-stream press narrative that there were only a few "fringe" gun owners that didn't support that. What was demonstrated in *SPECTACULAR* fashion was exactly the opposite. This is *precisely* what is happening in Canada right now. Oh, and in case nobody told you, LD2020 was only the second time in history the Governor of Virginia fled Richmond.  I understand that people have a lot mentally invested into lobby day or armed protest/marches. Folks really need to step back and look at the big picture. You really think what's happening in Canada is even a tiny bit like Lobby day was? Really??? Think about that for a moment! Pick a high number, let's say 40,000 armed Canadians showed up in Ottawa for a "lobby Day" just like VA. Fences went up, extra LE called in, schedules adjusted, nerves on edge FOR ONE DAY. Nothing of any significance happens, nobody resigns, no policy changes, then everyone packs up and goes home. A week later you'd never know anything unusual occurred. Oh, but we got all these armed citizens together!!!! So fucking what????? Did the citizenry show themselves mission capable? Did we see basics of teamwork/chain of command like drill and Ceremony performed? Were there impromptu squads, platoons and companies doing dry practicing fire and maneuver???? Anything other than proving a bunch of people being armed in and of itself doesn't mean shit?????? Canadians have a different culture than us. Similar, but different. They have been smart enough to mount a meaningful protest, one that is actually lasting more than a day and "may" lead to achieving some goals. It'll be a while before we know how successful the Freedom Convoy was. We already have the benefit of hindsight to know that Lobby Day didn't accomplish shit in the big picture. Rather than live in a delusional bubble believing something major was accomplished, why not instead try figuring out a successful strategy???? Sorry, actually bovine excrement. You have no concept whatsoever of what you are talking about. The rally was the largest armed gathering of civilians in US history. You also clearly have no clue what went on behind the scenes. If things had gone sideways, there was zero likelihood of the .gov prevailing. Zero. In hindsight, it was a much, much larger accomplishment than was anticipated. The only person living in a delusional bubble is the one living in ignorance. (That would be you, btw.) The Freedom Convoy is already successful. If you can't understand why, you haven't read the thread or have no reading comprehension. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:03:36 PM EDT
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Ladies being interviewed on Uottawascotty says there are locals that have come to see the protest to show their displeasure and have flipped to support the truckers after being talked to with respect and welcomed and treated like family. They say the generosity by the protestors is overwhelming and has changed people minds, While most of the people that are still against it are simply against it because they don't want these people in their town.. They are just selfish and antisocial.
They are both from Ottawa |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:04:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lincoln Jay just confronted a cop about their seizing fuel and putting people in danger and the cop basically said, Just following orders. But meh dental plan 
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:05:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ladies being interviewed on Uottawascotty says there are locals that have come to see the protest to show their displeasure and have flipped to support the truckers after being talked to with respect and welcomed and treated like family. They say the generosity by the protestors is overwhelming and has changed people minds, While most of the people that are still against it are simply against it because they don't want these people in their town.. They are just selfish and antisocial. They are both from Ottawa 
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:07:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good luck with that. The truckers can block "all material support" to them. They don't have the resources for a Berlin Airlift. If the truckers decide to squeeze the cops out of existence, the cops lose. Simple as that. The truckers in this country are a mixed bunch, and squabble just like any profession. I am sure Canadians are the same. But when attacked, they will fight together. And shame any trucker that crosses the line and supports .Gov Giving up now is snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.  |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:09:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry friend, but that's completely delusional. 2020 Lobby Day did exactly NOTHING for our side. It did provide intel for the .gov. Also it was EXTREAMELY reassuring to them that "we" are no actual threat. We don't know for sure what might have actually accomplished something. Maybe, perhaps leaving all the guns at home but bringing hand tools and tents? Tearing down the fences and camping on the lawn for weeks??? I don't claim to have an answer, but I can tell you that in the big picture, only a tiny number of people in a little dinky state were affected by lobby day. People were scared of the unknown on lobby day. Nobody knew what *might* happen. The fear was some nutball setting off a tragic chain reaction. Virtually NOBODY was scared of fathers, mothers, teachers, plumbers, etc standing around with guns. Lobby day PROVED that without some kind of radical lighting a fuse there is ZERO to be worried or afraid of since it's clearly proven to be a bunch of useless posturing. At this point in American history, Civil disobedience that puts fear into tyrants is going to require stashing the guns and getting out different tools. Right now, the Canadians have found a working formula. It remains to be seen how effective .gov countermeasures will be and whether the Canadian people can out last them. Wrong and right. We did learn that it is possible to stand in defiance against a State, armed, to prove a political point. That time has now passed and will likely no longer work. It is now an outdated model of protest. The Cannucks have now discovered the next logical conclusion, that logistics are the key. About 10 - 20% of the Canadian truck industry is now idle to make a political point. The deferred logistics deliveries at this point are incalculable and growing each day. Even if every protesting truck driver tomorrow says "fuck it, I'm going back to work" the delayed, deferred and lost shipments already embedded into the system are slated to wreck the JIT system for months in the future. Another week or two introduces near famine like conditions to Ontario. Transportation logistics is the weak point that utterly breaks the stronghold of government at all levels. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:10:46 PM EDT
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 Breaking: Ottawa Police Seizing Fuel From Protesters |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:11:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ladies being interviewed on Uottawascotty says there are locals that have come to see the protest to show their displeasure and have flipped to support the truckers after being talked to with respect and welcomed and treated like family. They say the generosity by the protestors is overwhelming and has changed people minds, While most of the people that are still against it are simply against it because they don't want these people in their town.. They are just selfish and antisocial. They are both from Ottawa |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:12:20 PM EDT
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Much brave.
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:12:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But meh dental plan Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lincoln Jay just confronted a cop about their seizing fuel and putting people in danger and the cop basically said, Just following orders. But meh dental plan  “Evil that arises out of ordinary thinking and is committed by ordinary people is the norm, not the exception.”14” ? Christopher R. Browning, Ordinary Men: Reserve Police Battalion 101 and the Final Solution in Poland “Along with ideological indoctrination, a vital factor touched upon but not fully explored in Milgram’s experiments was conformity to the group. The battalion had orders to kill Jews, but each individual did not. Yet 80 to 90 percent of the men proceeded to kill, though almost all of them—at least initially—were horrified and disgusted by what they were doing. To break ranks and step out, to adopt overtly nonconformist behavior, was simply beyond most of the men. It was easier for them to shoot.” ? Christopher R. Browning, Ordinary Men: Reserve Police Battalion 101 and the Final Solution in Poland One of the most important lessons of that war: evil is banal. Everyday. "Normal" people do it. This is why you pull away from that stuff at the start, not somewhere downslope. Once you get past an invisible undetectable point, getting away from the evil is too much for anyone to do. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:12:36 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:14:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:15:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wrong and right. We did learn that it is possible to stand in defiance against a State, armed, to prove a political point. That time has now passed and will likely no longer work. It is now an outdated model of protest. The Cannucks have now discovered the next logical conclusion, that logistics are the key. About 10 - 20% of the Canadian truck industry is now idle to make a political point. The deferred logistics deliveries at this point are incalculable and growing each day. Even if every protesting truck driver tomorrow says "fuck it, I'm going back to work" the delayed, deferred and lost shipments already embedded into the system are slated to wreck the JIT system for months in the future. Another week or two introduces near famine like conditions to Ontario. Transportation logistics is the weak point that utterly breaks the stronghold of government at all levels. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Sorry friend, but that's completely delusional. 2020 Lobby Day did exactly NOTHING for our side. It did provide intel for the .gov. Also it was EXTREAMELY reassuring to them that "we" are no actual threat. We don't know for sure what might have actually accomplished something. Maybe, perhaps leaving all the guns at home but bringing hand tools and tents? Tearing down the fences and camping on the lawn for weeks??? I don't claim to have an answer, but I can tell you that in the big picture, only a tiny number of people in a little dinky state were affected by lobby day. People were scared of the unknown on lobby day. Nobody knew what *might* happen. The fear was some nutball setting off a tragic chain reaction. Virtually NOBODY was scared of fathers, mothers, teachers, plumbers, etc standing around with guns. Lobby day PROVED that without some kind of radical lighting a fuse there is ZERO to be worried or afraid of since it's clearly proven to be a bunch of useless posturing. At this point in American history, Civil disobedience that puts fear into tyrants is going to require stashing the guns and getting out different tools. Right now, the Canadians have found a working formula. It remains to be seen how effective .gov countermeasures will be and whether the Canadian people can out last them. Wrong and right. We did learn that it is possible to stand in defiance against a State, armed, to prove a political point. That time has now passed and will likely no longer work. It is now an outdated model of protest. The Cannucks have now discovered the next logical conclusion, that logistics are the key. About 10 - 20% of the Canadian truck industry is now idle to make a political point. The deferred logistics deliveries at this point are incalculable and growing each day. Even if every protesting truck driver tomorrow says "fuck it, I'm going back to work" the delayed, deferred and lost shipments already embedded into the system are slated to wreck the JIT system for months in the future. Another week or two introduces near famine like conditions to Ontario. Transportation logistics is the weak point that utterly breaks the stronghold of government at all levels. To reinforce that point (posted this earlier in the thread): Popular Sovereignty Convoy Snippet: ...Still, the caravan of Canadian truckers reveals a serious flaw in the plans our ruling elites have laid out for their brave new world. The professional-managerial class that rules over much of the west built their power on technology and propaganda. Their loyal followers make up the staff of the universities, newsrooms, corporate HR offices, and public schools. They are the party of the laptop class, ruling through the manipulation of procedure and information. Automating away the working class is their eventual goal, but for now, they are heavily reliant on exactly that class to keep the already fragile infrastructure of their regimes running. They have attempted to abandon the working class before they can make them obsolete, and that is a serious tactical error. Transportation seems to be a particular vulnerability for these regimes. In October, Southwest Airlines was forced to withdraw a planned vaccine mandate for their employees after a wildcat strike forced the company to cancel hundreds of flights. Southwest simply could not figure out how to operate their company while enforcing the looming government mandate, and one coordinated action by their employees brought them to their knees. Despite their counter-revolutionary zeal, the attempts by governments to enforce the restrictions have been arrogant and sloppy. The weight of propaganda and some clumsy legal restrictions were expected to do the job, and the ruling class had no plan on how to handle collective action from essential workers.. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:17:57 PM EDT
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This crowd is wore than BLM, just look at the destruction.
 Please Hear This Message Before It’s Too Late | Freedom Convoy-Police Cutting Fuel Off From Drivers |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:19:28 PM EDT
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Protestors shaming the thieves. (video) Trying to freeze people to support a totalitarian - someone who is a control freak. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:22:36 PM EDT
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Protestors shaming the thieves. (video) Trying to freeze people to support a totalitarian - someone who is a control freak. Awesome video! |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:22:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This crowd is wore than BLM, just look at the destruction.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiAQrX6tuf8 |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:24:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry, actually bovine excrement. You have no concept whatsoever of what you are talking about. The rally was the largest armed gathering of civilians in US history. You also clearly have no clue what went on behind the scenes. If things had gone sideways, there was zero likelihood of the .gov prevailing. Zero. In hindsight, it was a much, much larger accomplishment than was anticipated. The only person living in a delusional bubble is the one living in ignorance. (That would be you, btw.) The Freedom Convoy is already successful. If you can't understand why, you haven't read the thread or have no reading comprehension. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Maybe, maybe not. Richmond 2020 Lobby Day was pure bottled lightning. Not one shot fired, city left cleaner than originally found, ruling class scared shitless. Sorry friend, but that's completely delusional. 2020 Lobby Day did exactly NOTHING for our side. It did provide intel for the .gov. Also it was EXTREAMELY reassuring to them that "we" are no actual threat. We don't know for sure what might have actually accomplished something. Maybe, perhaps leaving all the guns at home but bringing hand tools and tents? Tearing down the fences and camping on the lawn for weeks??? I don't claim to have an answer, but I can tell you that in the big picture, only a tiny number of people in a little dinky state were affected by lobby day. People were scared of the unknown on lobby day. Nobody knew what *might* happen. The fear was some nutball setting off a tragic chain reaction. Virtually NOBODY was scared of fathers, mothers, teachers, plumbers, etc standing around with guns. Lobby day PROVED that without some kind of radical lighting a fuse there is ZERO to be worried or afraid of since it's clearly proven to be a bunch of useless posturing. At this point in American history, Civil disobedience that puts fear into tyrants is going to require stashing the guns and getting out different tools. Right now, the Canadians have found a working formula. It remains to be seen how effective .gov countermeasures will be and whether the Canadian people can out last them. What complete equine excrement. Lobby Day 2020 stopped a certain-to-pass AWB dead in its tracks. Period. Second, and more importantly, it completely and utterly destroyed the lame-stream press narrative that there were only a few "fringe" gun owners that didn't support that. What was demonstrated in *SPECTACULAR* fashion was exactly the opposite. This is *precisely* what is happening in Canada right now. Oh, and in case nobody told you, LD2020 was only the second time in history the Governor of Virginia fled Richmond. I understand that people have a lot mentally invested into lobby day or armed protest/marches. Folks really need to step back and look at the big picture. You really think what's happening in Canada is even a tiny bit like Lobby day was? Really??? Think about that for a moment! Pick a high number, let's say 40,000 armed Canadians showed up in Ottawa for a "lobby Day" just like VA. Fences went up, extra LE called in, schedules adjusted, nerves on edge FOR ONE DAY. Nothing of any significance happens, nobody resigns, no policy changes, then everyone packs up and goes home. A week later you'd never know anything unusual occurred. Oh, but we got all these armed citizens together!!!! So fucking what????? Did the citizenry show themselves mission capable? Did we see basics of teamwork/chain of command like drill and Ceremony performed? Were there impromptu squads, platoons and companies doing dry practicing fire and maneuver???? Anything other than proving a bunch of people being armed in and of itself doesn't mean shit?????? Canadians have a different culture than us. Similar, but different. They have been smart enough to mount a meaningful protest, one that is actually lasting more than a day and "may" lead to achieving some goals. It'll be a while before we know how successful the Freedom Convoy was. We already have the benefit of hindsight to know that Lobby Day didn't accomplish shit in the big picture. Rather than live in a delusional bubble believing something major was accomplished, why not instead try figuring out a successful strategy???? Sorry, actually bovine excrement. You have no concept whatsoever of what you are talking about. The rally was the largest armed gathering of civilians in US history. You also clearly have no clue what went on behind the scenes. If things had gone sideways, there was zero likelihood of the .gov prevailing. Zero. In hindsight, it was a much, much larger accomplishment than was anticipated. The only person living in a delusional bubble is the one living in ignorance. (That would be you, btw.) The Freedom Convoy is already successful. If you can't understand why, you haven't read the thread or have no reading comprehension. Yes, the freedom convoy is already many times more successful than lobby day was. I hope they are successful at ALL their goals, which remains to be seen. I'm going to back off of lobby day discussion before it derails the thread. My final comment is that some folks are just so mentally invested in the fact lobby day happened; they just can't accept that some things just don't matter. So it was the largest armed gathering of civilians in US history. Cool!! Great trivia and something to be proud of but doesn't mean or accomplish a damn thing politically. Back on topic- Canadians braving the weather, risking jobs and jail have my utmost respect. I hope you develop countermeasures that work against the fuel theft and other tactics. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:25:15 PM EDT
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/fundraiser-cancelled-convoy-quebec-city-1.6341936
Fundraiser for protest organizers in Quebec City cancelled The fundraising platform did not disclose how much money had been raised CBC News · Posted: Feb 06, 2022 9:31 PM ET | Last Updated: 1 hour ago Crowdfunding for organizers of the protests against COVID-19 restrictions in Quebec City was cancelled this weekend after the platform cancelled payments to their site. The CEO of the website, Simplyk, said donations to the fundraiser were cancelled because the campaign violated the conditions of the site since it is not a non-profit The funds were previously being collected by Keven Bilodeau, one of the organizers of the protest that lasted for four days in Quebec City and ended on Sunday. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:25:23 PM EDT
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Protestors shaming the thieves. (video) Trying to freeze people to support a totalitarian - someone who is a control freak. Fucking Snowstazi. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:27:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, the freedom convoy is already many times more successful than lobby day was. I hope they are successful at ALL their goals, which remains to be seen. I'm going to back off of lobby day discussion before it derails the thread. My final comment is that some folks are just so mentally invested in the fact lobby day happened; they just can't accept that some things just don't matter. So it was the largest armed gathering of civilians in US history. Cool!! Great trivia and something to be proud of but doesn't mean or accomplish a damn thing politically. Back on topic- Canadians braving the weather, risking jobs and jail have my utmost respect. I hope you develop countermeasures that work against the fuel theft and other tactics. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Maybe, maybe not. Richmond 2020 Lobby Day was pure bottled lightning. Not one shot fired, city left cleaner than originally found, ruling class scared shitless. Sorry friend, but that's completely delusional. 2020 Lobby Day did exactly NOTHING for our side. It did provide intel for the .gov. Also it was EXTREAMELY reassuring to them that "we" are no actual threat. We don't know for sure what might have actually accomplished something. Maybe, perhaps leaving all the guns at home but bringing hand tools and tents? Tearing down the fences and camping on the lawn for weeks??? I don't claim to have an answer, but I can tell you that in the big picture, only a tiny number of people in a little dinky state were affected by lobby day. People were scared of the unknown on lobby day. Nobody knew what *might* happen. The fear was some nutball setting off a tragic chain reaction. Virtually NOBODY was scared of fathers, mothers, teachers, plumbers, etc standing around with guns. Lobby day PROVED that without some kind of radical lighting a fuse there is ZERO to be worried or afraid of since it's clearly proven to be a bunch of useless posturing. At this point in American history, Civil disobedience that puts fear into tyrants is going to require stashing the guns and getting out different tools. Right now, the Canadians have found a working formula. It remains to be seen how effective .gov countermeasures will be and whether the Canadian people can out last them. What complete equine excrement. Lobby Day 2020 stopped a certain-to-pass AWB dead in its tracks. Period. Second, and more importantly, it completely and utterly destroyed the lame-stream press narrative that there were only a few "fringe" gun owners that didn't support that. What was demonstrated in *SPECTACULAR* fashion was exactly the opposite. This is *precisely* what is happening in Canada right now. Oh, and in case nobody told you, LD2020 was only the second time in history the Governor of Virginia fled Richmond. I understand that people have a lot mentally invested into lobby day or armed protest/marches. Folks really need to step back and look at the big picture. You really think what's happening in Canada is even a tiny bit like Lobby day was? Really??? Think about that for a moment! Pick a high number, let's say 40,000 armed Canadians showed up in Ottawa for a "lobby Day" just like VA. Fences went up, extra LE called in, schedules adjusted, nerves on edge FOR ONE DAY. Nothing of any significance happens, nobody resigns, no policy changes, then everyone packs up and goes home. A week later you'd never know anything unusual occurred. Oh, but we got all these armed citizens together!!!! So fucking what????? Did the citizenry show themselves mission capable? Did we see basics of teamwork/chain of command like drill and Ceremony performed? Were there impromptu squads, platoons and companies doing dry practicing fire and maneuver???? Anything other than proving a bunch of people being armed in and of itself doesn't mean shit?????? Canadians have a different culture than us. Similar, but different. They have been smart enough to mount a meaningful protest, one that is actually lasting more than a day and "may" lead to achieving some goals. It'll be a while before we know how successful the Freedom Convoy was. We already have the benefit of hindsight to know that Lobby Day didn't accomplish shit in the big picture. Rather than live in a delusional bubble believing something major was accomplished, why not instead try figuring out a successful strategy???? Sorry, actually bovine excrement. You have no concept whatsoever of what you are talking about. The rally was the largest armed gathering of civilians in US history. You also clearly have no clue what went on behind the scenes. If things had gone sideways, there was zero likelihood of the .gov prevailing. Zero. In hindsight, it was a much, much larger accomplishment than was anticipated. The only person living in a delusional bubble is the one living in ignorance. (That would be you, btw.) The Freedom Convoy is already successful. If you can't understand why, you haven't read the thread or have no reading comprehension. Yes, the freedom convoy is already many times more successful than lobby day was. I hope they are successful at ALL their goals, which remains to be seen. I'm going to back off of lobby day discussion before it derails the thread. My final comment is that some folks are just so mentally invested in the fact lobby day happened; they just can't accept that some things just don't matter. So it was the largest armed gathering of civilians in US history. Cool!! Great trivia and something to be proud of but doesn't mean or accomplish a damn thing politically. Back on topic- Canadians braving the weather, risking jobs and jail have my utmost respect. I hope you develop countermeasures that work against the fuel theft and other tactics. I will not argue the comparisons between the two. Many of the Canadians there aren't risking their jobs.. The have already lost them. They are there as a last resort. Their .gov doesn't care. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:28:13 PM EDT
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Protestors shaming the thieves. (video) Trying to freeze people to support a totalitarian - someone who is a control freak. Would be funny if the cops went back their boss and we're like " we tried, but there were just too many eh, soory" |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:29:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Would be funny if the cops went back their boss and we're like " we tried, but there were just too many eh, soory" |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:30:06 PM EDT
[#34]
Ottawa Truck Convoy Leaders Respond to News of Ottawa "State of Emergency"
https://odysee.com/@SixthSense-Truth-Search-Labs:0/Ottawa-Truck-Convoy-Leaders-Respond-to-News-of-Ottawa-State-:a |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:32:40 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That would be great. Make the boss go do it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Would be funny if the cops went back their boss and we're like " we tried, but there were just too many eh, soory" It would be a way for them to make up for being common thieves just because some pencil pushing bureaucrat who's never risked their neck for anything told them to. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:33:04 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ottawa Truck Convoy Leaders Respond to News of Ottawa "State of Emergency" https://odysee.com/@SixthSense-Truth-Search-Labs:0/Ottawa-Truck-Convoy-Leaders-Respond-to-News-of-Ottawa-State-:a Look at the former RCMP officer. His body language is pretty telling, He knows shit is going to get real. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:33:32 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ottawa Truck Convoy Leaders Respond to News of Ottawa "State of Emergency" https://odysee.com/@SixthSense-Truth-Search-Labs:0/Ottawa-Truck-Convoy-Leaders-Respond-to-News-of-Ottawa-State-:a @Goatboy Any way to get odysee embeds working? |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:34:04 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wrong and right. We did learn that it is possible to stand in defiance against a State, armed, to prove a political point. That time has now passed and will likely no longer work. It is now an outdated model of protest. The Cannucks have now discovered the next logical conclusion, that logistics are the key. About 10 - 20% of the Canadian truck industry is now idle to make a political point. The deferred logistics deliveries at this point are incalculable and growing each day. Even if every protesting truck driver tomorrow says "fuck it, I'm going back to work" the delayed, deferred and lost shipments already embedded into the system are slated to wreck the JIT system for months in the future. Another week or two introduces near famine like conditions to Ontario. Transportation logistics is the weak point that utterly breaks the stronghold of government at all levels. How long until they’re eating long pork in Ottawa? |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:35:04 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, few hundred people 5 deep interlocked with the fuel in the middle and march forward. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Link arms, sing "We Shall Overcome" and make the police baton you while someone is live-streaming it. I'm not even joking. This is a civil rights issue, treat it like one. Yeah, few hundred people 5 deep interlocked with the fuel in the middle and march forward. How much fuel could they carry for all those trucks ? Seems like it is probably going to take vehicles hauling it. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:36:31 PM EDT
[#40]
American Socialist media beginning to awaken tonight:
MSN heading: “US closely tied to 'nationwide insurrection' in Canada against COVID mandates: Live updates” “Under no circumstances should any group in the USA fund disruptive activities in Canada. Period. Full stop,” said Bruce Heyman, a former U.S. ambassador to Canada under President Barack Obama, on Twitter. "How is it many Republicans are publicly more 'concerned' about events in Canada than Russia?" |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:36:49 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How much fuel could they carry for all those trucks ? Seems like it is probably going to take vehicles hauling it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Link arms, sing "We Shall Overcome" and make the police baton you while someone is live-streaming it. I'm not even joking. This is a civil rights issue, treat it like one. Yeah, few hundred people 5 deep interlocked with the fuel in the middle and march forward. How much fuel could they carry for all those trucks ? Seems like it is probably going to take vehicles hauling it. Doesn't take much to keep a truck idling. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:38:00 PM EDT
[#42]
Hour and a half till midnight in ottowa and the farcical enforcement is said to start really happening.
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:38:12 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wrong and right. We did learn that it is possible to stand in defiance against a State, armed, to prove a political point. That time has now passed and will likely no longer work. It is now an outdated model of protest. The Cannucks have now discovered the next logical conclusion, that logistics are the key. About 10 - 20% of the Canadian truck industry is now idle to make a political point. The deferred logistics deliveries at this point are incalculable and growing each day. Even if every protesting truck driver tomorrow says "fuck it, I'm going back to work" the delayed, deferred and lost shipments already embedded into the system are slated to wreck the JIT system for months in the future. Another week or two introduces near famine like conditions to Ontario. Transportation logistics is the weak point that utterly breaks the stronghold of government at all levels. Man… Yep. Prolonged unarmed road block protests have been the way for years, and some of us have been saying it for years. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:38:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry friend, but that's completely delusional. 2020 Lobby Day did exactly NOTHING for our side. It did provide intel for the .gov. Also it was EXTREAMELY reassuring to them that "we" are no actual threat. We don't know for sure what might have actually accomplished something. Maybe, perhaps leaving all the guns at home but bringing hand tools and tents? Tearing down the fences and camping on the lawn for weeks??? I don't claim to have an answer, but I can tell you that in the big picture, only a tiny number of people in a little dinky state were affected by lobby day. People were scared of the unknown on lobby day. Nobody knew what *might* happen. The fear was some nutball setting off a tragic chain reaction. Virtually NOBODY was scared of fathers, mothers, teachers, plumbers, etc standing around with guns. Lobby day PROVED that without some kind of radical lighting a fuse there is ZERO to be worried or afraid of since it's clearly proven to be a bunch of useless posturing. At this point in American history, Civil disobedience that puts fear into tyrants is going to require stashing the guns and getting out different tools. Right now, the Canadians have found a working formula. It remains to be seen how effective .gov countermeasures will be and whether the Canadian people can out last them. GTFO |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:38:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: American Socialist media beginning to awaken tonight: MSN heading: “US closely tied to 'nationwide insurrection' in Canada against COVID mandates: Live updates” “Under no circumstances should any group in the USA fund disruptive activities in Canada. Period. Full stop,” said Bruce Heyman, a former U.S. ambassador to Canada under President Barack Obama, on Twitter. "How is it many Republicans are publicly more 'concerned' about events in Canada than Russia?" Fuck the MSM. They are commies. They are the cause of the division that we see today, Moreso than the government goons. They are the wedge that is parroting lies to push the divide. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:39:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: American Socialist media beginning to awaken tonight: MSN heading: “US closely tied to 'nationwide insurrection' in Canada against COVID mandates: Live updates” “Under no circumstances should any group in the USA fund disruptive activities in Canada. Period. Full stop,” said Bruce Heyman, a former U.S. ambassador to Canada under President Barack Obama, on Twitter. "How is it many Republicans are publicly more 'concerned' about events in Canada than Russia?" Oh look. Modern marxists being absolute hypocrites and showing they are absolutely FOR oppression and hell on earth. They don't care about people, they care about their religion, it is absolutely their opiate. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:41:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They should let the tow trucks remove them. Take the trucks to the yard. Pay an impound fee. Then swing by the gas station. Guarantee that the time it takes to hook up a big rig is equal or greater than the time it takes to refill. Would be better if the tow trucks pulled all the red coats vehicles, allow no quartering of red coats. Let them feel the cold of the Canadian winter. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:41:45 PM EDT
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Still a page behind, but from the videos and tweets it appears police are robbing citizens of lawfully possessed property and charging them with "mischief" for aiding protestors. How is gifting legal possessions "mischief" when the recipients are not criminals nor conducting criminal activity?
The only crime here is being committed by the royal canadian mounted police. How shameful, stealing from citizens and abusing their authority. Citizens should retrieve their stolen property. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:42:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: American Socialist media beginning to awaken tonight: MSN heading: “US closely tied to 'nationwide insurrection' in Canada against COVID mandates: Live updates” “Under no circumstances should any group in the USA fund disruptive activities in Canada. Period. Full stop,” said Bruce Heyman, a former U.S. ambassador to Canada under President Barack Obama, on Twitter. "How is it many Republicans are publicly more 'concerned' about events in Canada than Russia?" Heyman; how about fuck off? |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 11:42:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The trucker he is interviewing now escaped communism. He says this is life or death for him. He says many of the truckers are losing everything. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So far all the truckers Uottawascotty has interviewed have say we have no more fuel, But we are not going anywhere. Rumor is that wrecker services still will not tow anyone. Another trucker says the police are essentially allowing vandals to attack the truckers trucks. The police are telling them they don care when the truckers complain. Some of the truckers say they are there without jobs because of the canadian .gov. He is interviewing a Romanian that escaped communism right now. If true things may heat up a bit. The trucker he is interviewing now escaped communism. He says this is life or death for him. He says many of the truckers are losing everything. It is fucking sad what people across all the western world have allowed to become of their nations. I hope this is the first step of an offensive to take liberty back. |
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