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Posted: 11/11/2013 9:49:33 AM EST
China Unveils New AWACS
AVwebFlash
November 11, 2013

The Chinese military has offered a glimpse of its new advance warning and control system (AWACS) aircraft.
The KJ-500 is an adaptation of the Shanxi Y-9 cargo plane, a four-engine turboprop with a configuration similar to that of the C-130 Hercules.
http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/China-Unveils-New-AWACS220950-1.html


The Base Leg Blog
Thursday, Nov 7, 2013

New photos of China's new KJ-500 AEW emerge
More photos have emerged of the prototype KJ-500 Airborne Early Warning Aircraft. The new aircraft is based on the Shaanxi Y-9 turboprop transport, and features a fixed rotodome on the top fuselage, reportedly housing 3 Active Electronically Scanned Array radars providing 360° coverage.
http://thebaseleg.blogspot.com/2013/11/new-photos-of-chinas-new-kj-500-aew.html


Chinese Military Aircraft
Surveillance Aircraft II

At least two KJ-500 prototypes were constructed by late 2013. KJ-500 is speculated to be in the same class of KJ-2000 in terms of AEW capability and is expected to replace KJ-200.
http://chinese-military-aviation.blogspot.com/p/surveillance-aircraft-ii.html
Link Posted: 11/11/2013 9:52:04 AM EST
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I bet them capturing a few of our planes over the years, has helped with this.
Link Posted: 11/11/2013 9:54:04 AM EST
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Who's betting the Radome isn't shielded, so all those 'brave soldiers of the Revolution' will shortly end up with Testicular Cancer and brain damage from being microwaved in their flying whirlygig tin-can?
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You think they used CHINESE ball bearings, or did they IMPORT critical parts  ?
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looks derpy
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why bother, build something 90% as good for half the cost and just build a bunch more of them.
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nocat jpeg
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You can get decent kit in China, you just have to pay a lot more for it and audit them constantly. Ok, nevermind, the bearings are probably from Taiwan....
Link Posted: 11/11/2013 10:10:26 AM EST
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Based on the Anatov An-12 - a "newish" Chinese design copied from the Russians original design of 1957...

Technology from...  

Link Posted: 11/11/2013 10:12:54 AM EST
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Hope it flies better than what the Iranians got


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why bother, build something 90% as good for half the cost and just build a bunch more of them.
Logistics by Wal-Mart?

 
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Splash one!
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Its TAPE!
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In this case the basic design works.
One only needs a suitable aircraft and then the radar / electronics.



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That was pure and simple pilot error, it had nothing to do with the design of the aircraft.
Link Posted: 11/11/2013 10:35:46 AM EST
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Chinese junk
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Achmed and Saliiiiiiiimmmm!

Cracks me up every time I see it.

In last weeks episode, Achmed and Salim blow up a bus:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXMIQDVOs98
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You don't think the Chinese are a world-class electronics manufacturer? Hell, 1/4 of the EEs at my company are from China and let me tell you: They're not working here because they're stupid. And who do you think is assembling all these fancy electronics gadgets like iPhones?

If you think the Chinese are incapable of building good stuff, you are sorely mistaken.
 
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You don't think the Chinese are a world-class electronics manufacturer? Hell, 1/4 of the EEs at my company are from China and let me tell you: They're not working here because they're stupid. And who do you think is assembling all these fancy electronics gadgets like iPhones?

If you think the Chinese are incapable of building good stuff, you are sorely mistaken.
 



My personal belief is that the only thing holding them back is busines ethics. Until get around the 'conflict of interest' thing they will continue to be contract manufacturers.
Link Posted: 11/11/2013 10:56:37 AM EST
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This it?

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Only a matter of time until they had their own EW plane, with our intel leaks, captured planes and Chinese espionage.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hainan_Island_incident Clinton's fault the beginning of the red encroachment to American world military might.
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You don't think the Chinese are a world-class electronics manufacturer? Hell, 1/4 of the EEs at my company are from China and let me tell you: They're not working here because they're stupid. And who do you think is assembling all these fancy electronics gadgets like iPhones?

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You don't think the Chinese are a world-class electronics manufacturer? Hell, 1/4 of the EEs at my company are from China and let me tell you: They're not working here because they're stupid. And who do you think is assembling all these fancy electronics gadgets like iPhones?

If you think the Chinese are incapable of building good stuff, you are sorely mistaken.
 


Most of the time any worker that does a good job, gets promoted to management. Once there, they no longer contribute to the design process. It is few and far between that I see any competent engineers in working mainland China.
Link Posted: 11/11/2013 11:10:32 AM EST
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I wonder how well they work. I would assume they could keep an eye on Taiwan, etc.
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They invented noodles and gun powder.
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It's all fun and games until someone loses a collection platform.
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American Capitalist pigs lie!!!!!!!!  That was Rodan being shot down by brave Iranian Fighter pilots from the Monster Fighting Organization Squadron.
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You don't think the Chinese are a world-class electronics manufacturer? Hell, 1/4 of the EEs at my company are from China and let me tell you: They're not working here because they're stupid. And who do you think is assembling all these fancy electronics gadgets like iPhones?



If you think the Chinese are incapable of building good stuff, you are sorely mistaken.

 
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You don't think the Chinese are a world-class electronics manufacturer? Hell, 1/4 of the EEs at my company are from China and let me tell you: They're not working here because they're stupid. And who do you think is assembling all these fancy electronics gadgets like iPhones?



If you think the Chinese are incapable of building good stuff, you are sorely mistaken.

 
They may be capable of producing quality but they often don't. They produce a ton of cheap and often counterfeit junk.

 
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If you bothered to go to the links I provided you would see that image.    
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I already have enough tabs open! We need pics man. Like instant access.
Link Posted: 11/11/2013 12:47:03 PM EST
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Not to be racisss...but it's yellow
Link Posted: 11/11/2013 12:52:20 PM EST
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Beg, borrow, buy or steal, that's the chicom way.
Not an original idea or design in the billion of them.
Link Posted: 11/11/2013 12:53:23 PM EST
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Well that's not gonna fit on the shelf at Walmart.
Link Posted: 11/11/2013 12:54:30 PM EST
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QFT

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You don't think the Chinese are a world-class electronics manufacturer? Hell, 1/4 of the EEs at my company are from China and let me tell you: They're not working here because they're stupid. And who do you think is assembling all these fancy electronics gadgets like iPhones?

If you think the Chinese are incapable of building good stuff, you are sorely mistaken.
 

Link Posted: 11/11/2013 12:56:51 PM EST
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AWACS do you little good if you can't protect them.
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You don't think the Chinese are a world-class electronics manufacturer? Hell, 1/4 of the EEs at my company are from China and let me tell you: They're not working here because they're stupid. And who do you think is assembling all these fancy electronics gadgets like iPhones?

If you think the Chinese are incapable of building good stuff, you are sorely mistaken.
 


Yup, what comes from China is only as good as the designer of said product. Apple isn't going to let their Chinese manufacturing plant, release junk iPhones. Much higher QA standard. We see crap from China because that is what the consumer wants. Cheap crap. But there are exceptions, many exceptions.
Link Posted: 11/11/2013 1:00:26 PM EST
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Why a circular radome if you are using aesa radars?  That is just poor packaging.  


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Yup, what comes from China is only as good as the designer of said product. Apple isn't going to let their Chinese manufacturing plant, release junk iPhones. Much higher QA standard. We see crap from China because that is what the consumer wants. Cheap crap. But there are exceptions, many exceptions.
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You don't think the Chinese are a world-class electronics manufacturer? Hell, 1/4 of the EEs at my company are from China and let me tell you: They're not working here because they're stupid. And who do you think is assembling all these fancy electronics gadgets like iPhones?

If you think the Chinese are incapable of building good stuff, you are sorely mistaken.
 


Yup, what comes from China is only as good as the designer of said product. Apple isn't going to let their Chinese manufacturing plant, release junk iPhones. Much higher QA standard. We see crap from China because that is what the consumer wants. Cheap crap. But there are exceptions, many exceptions.


Apple and many other manufacturers keep a tight leash on all of their vendors with on-site quality and development engineers
Link Posted: 11/11/2013 1:01:03 PM EST
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Might not be quite as good as our AWACS, but if they always have another that is the difference.
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Sorry, I am full of fail and fuck.  
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Oh come on, this is the one time it doesn't count. A plane of this type is like saying the Chinese copied the automobile because theirs also have 4 wheels and a steering wheel.

It's a flying radar station, what other type of aircraft could you mount a dish that large onto? Every country wants an AWACS, barely any can afford one.
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The Chinese already have a wedgetail type AWACS.



The Y-8W / KJ-200 Balanced Beam airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) uses a dual-sided Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) array housed in a dorsal 'plank' fairing which is mounted on the top of a modified Y-8F-600 Category III Platform with JL-4 6-blade propellers.



Damn Chinese copied our blue porta pottie design too.
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You don't think the Chinese are a world-class electronics manufacturer? Hell, 1/4 of the EEs at my company are from China and let me tell you: They're not working here because they're stupid. And who do you think is assembling all these fancy electronics gadgets like iPhones?

If you think the Chinese are incapable of building good stuff, you are sorely mistaken.
 

Yup, what comes from China is only as good as the designer of said product. Apple isn't going to let their Chinese manufacturing plant, release junk iPhones. Much higher QA standard. We see crap from China because that is what the consumer wants. Cheap crap. But there are exceptions, many exceptions.

Apple and many other manufacturers keep a tight leash on all of their vendors with on-site quality and development engineers

And I'm pretty sure the PLA will as well.
 


Unlike Apple, the PLA can shoot people for fuckups.
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I'd be willing to bet their military doesn't get cheap counterfeit junk.

 
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They may be capable of producing quality but they often don't. They produce a ton of cheap and often counterfeit junk.  


I'd be willing to bet their military doesn't get cheap counterfeit junk.

 
I'm sure they get the good stuff, but I know I have gotten a lot of the junk.



 
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That was pure and simple pilot error, it had nothing to do with the design of the aircraft.







What happened?  All I can see is the aircraft tumbling out of the sky - what did the pilot do that lead up to that?
-K
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The second mouse gets the cheese.
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Not like it'll be anywhere on par with ours.
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