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Posted: 2/3/2023 7:17:48 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How is a weather balloon with a radar reflector attached to it a spy balloon? Why are you making excuses for and providing cover to the ChiComs? lol |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 7:20:35 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Presumably they were tracking it the whole way and it wasn't just first detected by some one who went out side looked up and said, 'hey, whats that?" If that's the case, we have a lot of problems on our hands we need to start addressing. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 7:23:14 AM EST
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Or.......we released it to make it look like China did to get people on board for a conflict. FJB needs support.
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Posted: 2/3/2023 7:24:55 AM EST
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Posted: 2/3/2023 7:26:03 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't see what the big deal is. We have satellites over China, Russia has satellites over us, why is this balloon so important? Just because it's not in an orbit? |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 7:27:44 AM EST
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Would it be important if it dispensed 10 glide bomb nukes over Montana to cripple our ability to retaliate as we would have no time to react? In strategic value it seems far worse than the threat posed by the Cuban missile crisis. Legit question, how much does something like that weigh? And what can a balloon carry? |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 7:30:50 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Legit question, how much does something like that weigh? And what can a balloon carry? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Would it be important if it dispensed 10 glide bomb nukes over Montana to cripple our ability to retaliate as we would have no time to react? In strategic value it seems far worse than the threat posed by the Cuban missile crisis. Legit question, how much does something like that weigh? And what can a balloon carry? This. I am more worried about what it could drop / spread / disperse than spying - they have more than enough satelites and human sources for that. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 7:31:53 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Or.......we released it to make it look like China did to get people on board for a conflict. FJB needs support. I wonder what China is going to say about it, if anything at all. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 7:33:03 AM EST
[#9]
So where is it now?
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Posted: 2/3/2023 7:33:23 AM EST
[#10]
Not Roswell?
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Posted: 2/3/2023 7:40:40 AM EST
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Legit question, how much does something like that weigh? And what can a balloon carry? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Would it be important if it dispensed 10 glide bomb nukes over Montana to cripple our ability to retaliate as we would have no time to react? In strategic value it seems far worse than the threat posed by the Cuban missile crisis. Legit question, how much does something like that weigh? And what can a balloon carry? |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 8:07:49 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder how the U.S. government would react if a group of civilian engineers got together and launched a weather balloon to do Balloon Battle® with it. Like battle bots.... but in the troposphere. That would be awesome. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 8:16:58 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. I am more worried about what it could drop / spread / disperse than spying - they have more than enough satelites and human sources for that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Would it be important if it dispensed 10 glide bomb nukes over Montana to cripple our ability to retaliate as we would have no time to react? In strategic value it seems far worse than the threat posed by the Cuban missile crisis. Legit question, how much does something like that weigh? And what can a balloon carry? This. I am more worried about what it could drop / spread / disperse than spying - they have more than enough satelites and human sources for that. I'm not saying your wrong, not all comms/data/whatever can be picked up from LEO. Plus, if you're looking for a way to break our encrypted comms, the more data you have the better. A loitering balloon can relay that much easier that a LEO sat that is only on station for a few minutes a day. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 8:19:30 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your .gov is literally fucking retarded. And you lost your country. Shameful. Didn’t it fly over Canada to get here? |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 8:19:44 AM EST
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What great fucking logic--if we shoot it down debris falls down. That's like the army logic of: "If I issue you that, ill have nothing to inventory."
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Posted: 2/3/2023 8:21:42 AM EST
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Probably has a detection unit looking for all the low energy telemetry units embedded in chinese plastic pistol braces.
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Posted: 2/3/2023 8:24:14 AM EST
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I was talking about this with my kids last night, and my 14 year old said. "Dad, what if the Chinese are spreading COVID or something else all over the U.S.?"
He has more common sense than the current administration. 
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Posted: 2/3/2023 8:27:17 AM EST
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It's transmitting the newest version of Tik Tok.
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Posted: 2/3/2023 8:28:42 AM EST
[#19]
Just go up there with a huge fan and blow it across the border into Canada.
They deserve it. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 8:35:32 AM EST
[#20]
China showing the world they can piss on our lawn
and Biden Admin can't decide who's Chicom balls to gargle first. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 8:37:53 AM EST
[#21]
Is there a SECOND balloon being tracked by the Canadians , on the same track ??? 
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Posted: 2/3/2023 8:40:57 AM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: it’s true, but laughable coming from someone who elected Trudeau Didn’t it fly over Canada to get here? My .gov is also retarded. And we elected Trudeau; I did not. Did you, singular, elect Biden? I look to the US as a bastion of hope for the free world, but that bastion is shrinking rapidly. Everywhere are these little hints that we have slipped farther into the darkness. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 8:42:51 AM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is there a SECOND balloon being tracked by the Canadians , on the same track ??? Possibly. I love the way China is "looking into whether it is theirs". Like they really do not know who to call or it might take a while as they have many and its not easy to keep track of them https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/china-spy-balloon-us-montana-canada-rcna68953 |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 8:43:36 AM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This. I am more worried about what it could drop / spread / disperse than spying - they have more than enough satelites and human sources for that. African or European? |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 8:46:41 AM EST
[#25]
Seems odd in a age of satellites
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Posted: 2/3/2023 8:47:40 AM EST
[#26]
Could a UAV with a tail hook snag it and fly it down?
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Posted: 2/3/2023 8:52:56 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. I am more worried about what it could drop / spread / disperse than spying - they have more than enough satelites and human sources for that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Would it be important if it dispensed 10 glide bomb nukes over Montana to cripple our ability to retaliate as we would have no time to react? In strategic value it seems far worse than the threat posed by the Cuban missile crisis. Legit question, how much does something like that weigh? And what can a balloon carry? This. I am more worried about what it could drop / spread / disperse than spying - they have more than enough satelites and human sources for that. Much like you and I, there’s a reason you go to certain places for more information or you don’t have the access to information you think you have. Or you just don’t have it at all. And if a hot air balloon can carry a couple hundred pounds of engine, basket, and people… there’s your baseline for something like this |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 8:53:41 AM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Possibly. I love the way China is "looking into whether it is theirs". Like they really do not know who to call or it might take a while as they have many and its not easy to keep track of them https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/china-spy-balloon-us-montana-canada-rcna68953 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is there a SECOND balloon being tracked by the Canadians , on the same track ??? Possibly. I love the way China is "looking into whether it is theirs". Like they really do not know who to call or it might take a while as they have many and its not easy to keep track of them https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/china-spy-balloon-us-montana-canada-rcna68953 * s i g h * China Is Balloon Knot |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 8:58:27 AM EST
[#29]
The border is wide open. Why do we care about a balloon?
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Posted: 2/3/2023 9:03:08 AM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems odd in a age of satellites They needed an antenna a little lower in the sky to activate all the secret microphones and tracking devices built into Baofang radios bought by arfcommers! 
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Posted: 2/3/2023 9:03:21 AM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Could a UAV with a tail hook snag it and fly it down? At 70,000ft? No, there's just no flight margin up there. All the crazy stuff we've done with C-130s over the years? That doesn't translate to higher altitudes like this, even when considering higher flying aircraft. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 9:04:05 AM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems odd in a age of satellites its certainly not "spying" because you are right. much easier to do with a satellite. however if there is a payload on board it makes more sense, maybe WuFlu-2. Maybe a test to see if they could get a balloon over the US. That's the reason we havent popped it. The news says its because there is a risk of damage to whoever it lands on below, but its friggin Billings Montana. The entire town is 15 miles long and there is literally nothing but country all around it. We don't know if it has a payload. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 9:04:27 AM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems odd in a age of satellites I thought the same. A Reuters article outlines some reasons that seem to make sense. * The advantages of balloons over satellites include the ability to scan wide swathes of territory from closer in, and to be able to spend more time over a target area, according to a 2009 report to the U.S. Air Force's Air Command and Staff College. * Unlike satellites, which require space launchers that cost hundreds of millions of dollars, balloons can be launched cheaply. * The balloons are not directly steered, but can be roughly guided to a target area by changing altitudes to catch different wind currents, according to a 2005 study for the Air Force's Airpower Research Institute. https://www.reuters.com/world/high-altitude-spy-balloons-old-concept-new-applications-2023-02-03/ I have to wonder if that thing just got swept up in the jet stream winds and somebody lost control of it. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 9:08:33 AM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: its certainly not "spying" because you are right. much easier to do with a satellite. however if there is a payload on board it makes more sense, maybe WuFlu-2. Maybe a test to see if they could get a balloon over the US. That's the reason we havent popped it. The news says its because there is a risk of damage to whoever it lands on below, but its friggin Billings Montana. The entire town is 15 miles long and there is literally nothing but country all around it. We don't know if it has a payload. LOL I just posted the same thing at the same time in the Let's Shoot It Down thread. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 9:14:32 AM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems odd in a age of satellites Interstellar dude ! |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 9:17:09 AM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dollars to doughnuts we haven't done anything because we can't. Team harbor freight managed to hit some gap of too high for air defence, to low for satellite defence, and too slow for missile defence. Also this may explain the frenetic eam action lately. Team Harbor Freight…. 
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Posted: 2/3/2023 9:17:23 AM EST
[#37]
That thing must be transmitting some sort of signal, I would imagine there are several assets honing in on it trying to snoop out just what it is transmitting.
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Posted: 2/3/2023 9:22:46 AM EST
[#38]
Could a governor order it shot down by an Air National Guard unit?
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Posted: 2/3/2023 9:24:19 AM EST
[#39]
Looks like it's going to be drifting over ICBM fields.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/montana-sen-daines-alarmed-chinese-spy-balloon-infiltration-calls-senate-briefing |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 9:26:48 AM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems odd in a age of satellites Everything old is new again . |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 9:28:01 AM EST
[#41]
China is just confirming the accuracy of secrets it obtained from its paid off .gov spies.
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Posted: 2/3/2023 9:29:46 AM EST
[#42]
They're just checking out all the farmland they bought from us
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Posted: 2/3/2023 9:30:36 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryGo "Buns!" |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 9:34:36 AM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: At 60,000+, it is a difficult shootdown. Laser target. Burn a small hole in it, or several and let it settle to the ground slowly. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 9:36:24 AM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's reckless to shoot it down. This isn't a war zone. This is insufficient reason to turn it into one. ETA / Correct. I was wrong, It has been a long time since I cared about airspace higher than I can fly. I recall, and it has been a long long time, some high altitude flight levels under the military control. But I'm probably having a senior moment and am 100% wrong...
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Posted: 2/3/2023 9:37:12 AM EST
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Posted: 2/3/2023 9:37:23 AM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My .gov is also retarded. And we elected Trudeau; I did not. Did you, singular, elect Biden? I look to the US as a bastion of hope for the free world, but that bastion is shrinking rapidly. Everywhere are these little hints that we have slipped farther into the darkness. I didnt lose my country, "we" did. Did I singularly lose my country? Dont be daft. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 9:39:08 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Go "Buns!" I understood that reference JPG |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 9:40:31 AM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Everything old is new again . Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Seems odd in a age of satellites Everything old is new again . "If it ain't broke..." Makes one wonder how many we haven't noticed before. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 9:40:39 AM EST
[#50]
I thought it was a bit breezy up there? How does a balloon “loiter?”
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