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Posted: 2/3/2023 10:42:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What great fucking logic--if we shoot it down debris falls down. That's like the army logic of: "If I issue you that, ill have nothing to inventory." The causality risk isn't worth it. 
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Posted: 2/3/2023 10:48:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Could a governor order it shot down by an Air National Guard unit? |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 10:48:37 AM EDT
[#3]
I'm sure we could both jam and eavesdrop on this thing.
Weapons payload? Calm your man-tits panic. Covid payload?  Come on.
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Posted: 2/3/2023 10:50:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought it was a bit breezy up there? How does a balloon “loiter?”  |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 10:51:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm sure we could both jam and eavesdrop on this thing. Weapons payload? Calm your man-tits panic. Covid payload? Come on. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 10:51:56 AM EDT
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Will be interesting when the details come out on how long this has actually been going on.
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Posted: 2/3/2023 10:53:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cordyceps dispersal. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm sure we could both jam and eavesdrop on this thing. Weapons payload? Calm your man-tits panic. Covid payload? Come on.And you know what that leads to! 
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Posted: 2/3/2023 10:53:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do they really need to think about this ? Blast that fucker out of the sky . Quote HistoryQuoted: Do they really need to think about this ? Blast that fucker out of the sky . I would guess they are figuring out how to get the sensor package in tact to the ground? |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 10:54:14 AM EDT
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How the hell did it get all that way past our border without anyone taking notice, and now that its in the center of our country it gets attention?
Wonder if there are cowboys left in Montana with nuts the size of basketballs who also happen to own a Barrett M82???? |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 10:55:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have to wonder if that thing just got swept up in the jet stream winds and somebody lost control of it. Right over our missile fields  Attached FileLet it hover over DC and see what happens. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 10:56:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: China has a legit spy sat network. What intelligence would the balloon obtain that the satellites wouldn't? From a quick search the lowest spy satellites are around 200Km, 656,000 ft and the balloon is floating around 70,000 ft. That puts any sensors 8x closer and would allow them to pick up much weaker signals. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 10:57:07 AM EDT
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Shoot it down. They are making us look like a cuck husband sitting in the corner watching his wife get gang banged. This is a national embarrassment, one of many lately.
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Posted: 2/3/2023 10:57:32 AM EDT
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This balloon is real time mapping the northern United States. For what? Nuke silos? Military bases? Invasion from the north?
WHY THE FUCK HASN'T IT BEEN DESTROYED? |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 10:58:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How the hell did it get all that way past our border without anyone taking notice, and now that its in the center of our country it gets attention? Wonder if there are cowboys left in Montana with nuts the size of basketballs who also happen to own a Barrett M82???? I love arfcom. Lets shoot down a balloon at 80 thousand feet with a rifle that has an effective range of 6000 feet. Forget intercepting signals just get cletus out there. The 50 cal can rip flesh from bone just with its shockwaves |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 10:59:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wonder if there are cowboys left in Montana with nuts the size of basketballs who also happen to own a Barrett M82???? Still wouldn't reach the altitude that thing is at. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:01:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder what China is going to say about it, if anything at all. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Or.......we released it to make it look like China did to get people on board for a conflict. FJB needs support. I wonder what China is going to say about it, if anything at all. They admitted it's theirs. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:04:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I love arfcom. Lets shoot down a balloon at 80 thousand feet with a rifle that has an effective range of 6000 feet. Forget intercepting signals just get cletus out there. The 50 cal can rip flesh from bone just with its shockwaves Hey, its the thought that counts ;-) I'll bet Beth from Yellowstone would come up with a quick & effecient solution...... |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:05:25 AM EDT
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If this thing drifts my way, I'll hook up a broadband directional antenna and an SDR. Might be able to see what it's transmitting. Are there any bored hams in the balloons current AO? Looks like you may be able to see it from the ground?
If it's riding the jet stream, it looks like it'll head SE. Lower level winds will push it NE. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:06:53 AM EDT
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Milley the traitor advising tater to not destroy.
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:07:05 AM EDT
[#20]
China: Balloon over US skies is for research, wind pushed it
China said Friday that a balloon spotted over American airspace was used for weather research and was blown off course, despite U.S. suspicion it was spying. The discovery further strained already tense relations between Beijing and Washington. The Pentagon decided not to shoot down the balloon, which was potentially flying over sensitive sites, because of concerns of hurting people on the ground. The U.S. had no immediate response to the Chinese explanation, which came as U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken was expected to make his first trip to Beijing this weekend. The visit has not been formally announced, and it was unclear if the balloon’s discovery would affect his travel plans. More |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:07:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This balloon is real time mapping the northern United States. For what? Nuke silos? Military bases? Invasion from the north? WHY THE FUCK HASN'T IT BEEN DESTROYED? The mission of riling the peasants will be over if they shoot the balloon down. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:12:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryTPNI |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:15:30 AM EDT
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There should be some method of taking down the balloon with the electronics intact. Wouldn't it make sense to reverse engineer as much as possible to see what data it's collecting?
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:17:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shoot it down. They are making us look like a cuck husband sitting in the corner watching his wife get gang banged. This is a national embarrassment, one of many lately. Deal with it quietly and release a claim that it failed due to poor design. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:19:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There should be some method of taking down the balloon with the electronics intact. Wouldn't it make sense to reverse engineer as much as possible to see what data it's collecting? It may have a self destruct to prevent examination. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:20:05 AM EDT
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Busting That Chinese Spy Balloon Is Harder Than You Think (Updated)
The Pentagon has been tracking a suspected Chinese surveillance balloon which flew over sensitive areas in Montana in recent days, apparently the latest of several such incursions. President Biden reportedly proposed that the intruder be shot down, but the Pentagon opposed this action, citing the risk of civilian casualties. In fact, bringing down this type of balloon may be extremely difficult, as it is likely to be highly resistant to the available weapons. It may look fragile, but the sheer size and construction of a stratospheric balloon makes it all but invulnerable. Such balloons typically fly at 80,000 feet or more – NASA’s version cruises at 120,000 feet.. The U.S. Air Force’s F-15 Eagle and F-22 Raptor both have a stated operating altitude of around 65,000 feet. While they might be able to get close enough to fire a missile, the balloon may be too high for them to shoot. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2023/02/03/busting-that-chinese-balloon-is-harder-than-you-think/amp/ |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:21:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Amazing lack of response to a foreign power spying in the US. It almost seems deliberate. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:23:13 AM EDT
[#28]
Can’t the Montana governor order the state’s Air National Guard to shoot it down?
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:28:43 AM EDT
[#29]
Is there a predicted path this thing gunna be on?
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:30:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So pop it, WTF? We're just going to watch a balloon that's watching us? "suspected" "soucres" all bullshit mealy mouth bullshit....days after that dipshit admiral talks about "war with china in 2 years..." and everyone STILL FALLS FOR IT that being said...who gives a shit...if millions of illegals crossing the southern border ever few months isn't a problem...i don't give a fuck about this |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:31:51 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Busting That Chinese Spy Balloon Is Harder Than You Think (Updated) The Pentagon has been tracking a suspected Chinese surveillance balloon which flew over sensitive areas in Montana in recent days, apparently the latest of several such incursions. President Biden reportedly proposed that the intruder be shot down, but the Pentagon opposed this action, citing the risk of civilian casualties. In fact, bringing down this type of balloon may be extremely difficult, as it is likely to be highly resistant to the available weapons. It may look fragile, but the sheer size and construction of a stratospheric balloon makes it all but invulnerable. Such balloons typically fly at 80,000 feet or more – NASA’s version cruises at 120,000 feet.. The U.S. Air Force’s F-15 Eagle and F-22 Raptor both have a stated operating altitude of around 65,000 feet. While they might be able to get close enough to fire a missile, the balloon may be too high for them to shoot. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2023/02/03/busting-that-chinese-balloon-is-harder-than-you-think/amp/ Is Major Amelia "Buns" Nakamura still around? |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:34:42 AM EDT
[#32]
Blinken has delayed his China trip due to the balloon.
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:35:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is there a predicted path this thing gunna be on? Billings, Bismark, Winnipeg? But, that assumes ground launch from Great Falls and a constant ascent to burst altitude, but none of that fits this particular thing with a steady buoyancy. Odds are, that if another balloon were launched under it, it would end up on a very different path, because that's just how lower/upper level winds often work. ETA: just looking at the uppermost winds I can find, I'm going to guess the next panic will be Whiteman AFB. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:37:46 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Blinken has delayed his China trip due to the balloon. https://apnews.com/article/politics-antony-blinken-china-314302278a5f05bdc2df146ed5b35ec6 |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:40:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Busting That Chinese Spy Balloon Is Harder Than You Think (Updated) The Pentagon has been tracking a suspected Chinese surveillance balloon which flew over sensitive areas in Montana in recent days, apparently the latest of several such incursions. President Biden reportedly proposed that the intruder be shot down, but the Pentagon opposed this action, citing the risk of civilian casualties. In fact, bringing down this type of balloon may be extremely difficult, as it is likely to be highly resistant to the available weapons. It may look fragile, but the sheer size and construction of a stratospheric balloon makes it all but invulnerable. Such balloons typically fly at 80,000 feet or more – NASA’s version cruises at 120,000 feet.. The U.S. Air Force’s F-15 Eagle and F-22 Raptor both have a stated operating altitude of around 65,000 feet. While they might be able to get close enough to fire a missile, the balloon may be too high for them to shoot. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2023/02/03/busting-that-chinese-balloon-is-harder-than-you-think/amp/ Mount an M2 50cal on a NASA U2 and put a few holes in it and watch it deflate. 
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:41:57 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Can’t the Montana governor order the state’s Air National Guard to shoot it down? Because the MT ANG has C-130's. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:43:14 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is Major Amelia "Buns" Nakamura still around?  |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:43:56 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:45:05 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Billings, Bismark, Winnipeg? But, that assumes ground launch from Great Falls and a constant ascent to burst altitude, but none of that fits this particular thing with a steady buoyancy. Odds are, that if another balloon were launched under it, it would end up on a very different path, because that's just how lower/upper level winds often work.
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:48:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m wetting my bed thinking about how we might be provoking a madman with his finger on the nuke switch. Most corrupt country on earth. 10% for the big guy. I don’t want to see my children die for some commie blimp, send yours. Secure our southern border against Mexican fentynal before we worry about a globohomo blimp. Better red than dead. I’d rather live on my knees than die on my feet. This kind of post is what keeps me coming back to GD. 
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:48:15 AM EDT
[#41]
The outrage from a nation that spies more than all others combined.
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:48:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is Major Amelia "Buns" Nakamura still around? That shit was legendary. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:49:52 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Blinken has delayed his China trip due to the balloon. He should fly over in the balloon |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:49:58 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hey, its the thought that counts ;-) I'll bet Beth from Yellowstone would come up with a quick & effecient solution...... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I love arfcom. Lets shoot down a balloon at 80 thousand feet with a rifle that has an effective range of 6000 feet. Forget intercepting signals just get cletus out there. The 50 cal can rip flesh from bone just with its shockwaves Hey, its the thought that counts ;-) I'll bet Beth from Yellowstone would come up with a quick & effecient solution...... You're serious aren't you? Your savior is a fictional character from a fictional tv show. You believe in make-believe? |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:54:14 AM EDT
[#45]
DON'T LOOK UP
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:54:40 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Can’t the Montana governor order the state’s Air National Guard to shoot it down? With what? All they fly is a C-130H that has a ceiling of around 33k ft. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:54:50 AM EDT
[#47]
See what you can get for buying one of Hunter’s paintings?
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:55:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Right over my house sometime today, looks like. 
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:56:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're serious aren't you? Your savior is a fictional character from a fictional tv show. You believe in make-believe? LOL,just havin some fun & a few laughs........... |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 11:57:55 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If this thing drifts my way, I'll hook up a broadband directional antenna and an SDR. Might be able to see what it's transmitting. Are there any bored hams in the balloons current AO? Looks like you may be able to see it from the ground? If it's riding the jet stream, it looks like it'll head SE. Lower level winds will push it NE. If you are in ND, and this thing is at 80k feet, you should have radio line-of-sight already. No need to wait. The trouble is getting an exact location on it so you can point at it with said directional antenna hooked up to a specan to see what it's putting out. Then tune a radio from there. If I were China, I would have a patch antenna on TOP of the sensor package and talking to a satellite. That way there would be no downward facing RF emissions from it. So I would be surprised if a terrestrial station in the balloon's target area picks anything up. |
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