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Posted: 7/14/2018 8:24:23 PM EST
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Why does his being a veteran have anything to do with the Story?
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Posted: 7/14/2018 8:24:57 PM EST
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Note, the cops DID come for the guns when ordered to. |
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Posted: 7/14/2018 8:31:19 PM EST
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I have zero sympathy for anyone who chooses to live in New Jersey.
You are free to live anywhere and choose to live in the worst shithole in the country. But muh job. Muh wifes family. |
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Posted: 7/14/2018 8:43:11 PM EST
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We'll never know what was truly said between the two kids at school. More than likely whoever overheard them either blew what was said out of proportion or only heard what they wanted to hear. We're talking about two kids who probably when they were talking were saying things that may be made sense to them but didn't make sense or alarmed the person that overheard them. Whatever the truth is, the fact is-these red flag laws are going to end up getting people killed. It's only a matter of time. Either the person the law enforcement is trying to interact with does something stupid or the law enforcement themselves does something stupid or both. Whatever sets it off, the outcome is going to be bad. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I like how the author has left out everything as to what was reported to the state police. I bet it went something along the lines of, "OMG!!!! A kid, who has access to guns is talking about shooting up the school!!" So the cops went to investigate. The very thing we would expect them to do. I know if we get such a report it is acted on very quickly. We're talking about two kids who probably when they were talking were saying things that may be made sense to them but didn't make sense or alarmed the person that overheard them. Whatever the truth is, the fact is-these red flag laws are going to end up getting people killed. It's only a matter of time. Either the person the law enforcement is trying to interact with does something stupid or the law enforcement themselves does something stupid or both. Whatever sets it off, the outcome is going to be bad. At the same time, I think as gun owners we should be wary of click bait. |
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Posted: 7/14/2018 8:44:21 PM EST
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Why does his being a veteran have anything to do with the Story? |
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Posted: 7/14/2018 8:44:42 PM EST
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I would fully expect if LE had been told the minor son of a gun owner had been reported to be a potential future active shooter to secure the firearms first in some manner. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I like how the author has left out everything as to what was reported to the state police. I bet it went something along the lines of, "OMG!!!! A kid, who has access to guns is talking about shooting up the school!!" So the cops went to investigate. The very thing we would expect them to do. I know if we get such a report it is acted on very quickly. Second, if all that is required for cops to collect the guns is have an unsubstantiated report of a future active shooter....well then, why not report any/all gun owners who have kids, because hey you never know! |
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Posted: 7/14/2018 8:52:35 PM EST
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Those guys aren't wearing jackboots.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: But NJ cops are fine upstanding supporters of the second amendment and are not fascists in any way--or so the NJ cop in ARFCOM has assured us. https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/pressofatlanticcity.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/6/0f/60ffa0fa-00e5-11e5-b510-d7c5acef7235/555fce6a6bed4.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C803 
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Posted: 7/14/2018 9:10:04 PM EST
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New Jersey is a bad place to live |
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Posted: 7/16/2018 10:37:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, I was wondering about that. Might be the author wasn't given or had access to that info. Hard to tell. There's probably some effort given to conceal the identity of the reporting kid at school to keep the info pipeline open. I don't know. Sometimes here on GD you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. If the police didn't respond, and a mass shooting occurred, I'm sure we'd hear a scenario like the Parkland shooting and the fine response...or lack thereof...of the FBI and SO. These Jersey cops did respond and apparently assessed that no one needed to be arrested, and they didn't seize the guns regardless of how that played out. Everyone wants to take reports seriously, but there's a danger there. If you roll the full code three for everything, you run the risk of inducing more calls, because the descending on the call with lots of colorful Christmas cars and battle rattle enlivens the day and alleviates the mundanity. It's fun to be excited. |
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