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Posted: 4/20/2023 6:50:57 AM EDT
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They're gonna shutdown GD next
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Posted: 4/20/2023 6:53:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Man, the progressives have done an outstanding job on you all. You think you're being resistant and obstructive to their cause, but you've played right into it. They've got you so twisted around that you are now supporting foreign propagandists sowing disinformation in our country with the intent of damaging it. They are using our freedoms to destroy us. And the patriots are helping them do it. Well done. Last time I checked the federal government is in charge of who immigrates into the United States. If they let in Russian intelligence agents then that’s kind of a federal government problem created by the federal government. It’s responsible for the 5,000,000 illegals who have crashed the borders in the last two years for instance. I would imagine that a lot of people have been killed, raped, robbed, harassed and raped as a result. If American citizens are paid to do bullshit race baiting because the federal government allows Russian intelligence agencies operatives to shit stir, then that’s also a federal government problem created by the federal government. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:01:11 AM EDT
[#3]
The KGB using American Communist stooges and useful idiots to foment discord in the United States?
It’s so old school! |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:01:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Last time I checked the federal government is in charge of who immigrates into the United States. If they let in Russian intelligence agents then that’s kind of a federal government problem created by the federal government. It’s responsible for the 5,000,000 illegals who have crashed the borders in the last two years for instance. I would imagine that a lot of people have been killed, raped, robbed, harassed and raped as a result. If Americans citizens are paid to do bullshit race baiting because the federal government allows Russian intelligence agencies operatives shit stir, then that’s also a federal government problem created by the federal government. Do you think on their visa applications the Russians write they are coming to America to cause problems? Most of the Russian Agents will say they are doing something innocent at an embassy or whatever. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:04:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you think on their visa applications the Russians write they are coming to America to cause problems? Most of the Russian Agents will say they are doing something innocent at an embassy or whatever. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Last time I checked the federal government is in charge of who immigrates into the United States. If they let in Russian intelligence agents then that’s kind of a federal government problem created by the federal government. It’s responsible for the 5,000,000 illegals who have crashed the borders in the last two years for instance. I would imagine that a lot of people have been killed, raped, robbed, harassed and raped as a result. If Americans citizens are paid to do bullshit race baiting because the federal government allows Russian intelligence agencies operatives shit stir, then that’s also a federal government problem created by the federal government. Do you think on their visa applications the Russians write they are coming to America to cause problems? Most of the Russian Agents will say they are doing something innocent at an embassy or whatever. Does America have a strategic Russian immigration gap or something? |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:06:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Does America have a strategic Russian immigration gap or something? That's not what I said. They can just pretend to be diplomats. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:13:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's not what I said. They can just pretend to be diplomats. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Does America have a strategic Russian immigration gap or something? That's not what I said. They can just pretend to be diplomats. So you are telling me that the Russian Embassy is directing human resources directly to black separatists instead of doing corporate espionage and shit? Seems low rent. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:13:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Actually, every single one of the indicted who legally could, kicked up money to the Dems. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:14:21 AM EDT
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When is Biden and Hillary getting arrested?
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:15:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So you are telling me that the Russian Embassy is directing human resources directly to black separatists instead of doing corporate espionage and shit? Seems low rent. They have a lot of resources for the US |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:16:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They have a lot of resources. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So you are telling me that the Russian Embassy is directing human resources directly to black separatists instead of doing corporate espionage and shit? Seems low rent. They have a lot of resources. Suuuure they do. In your imagination. But we’re getting pretty far afield from American citizens being charged for violating FARA. That’s still bullshit. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:16:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Man, the progressives have done an outstanding job on you all. You think you're being resistant and obstructive to their cause, but you've played right into it. They've got you so twisted around that you are now supporting foreign propagandists sowing disinformation in our country with the intent of damaging it. They are using our freedoms to destroy us. And the patriots are helping them do it. Well done. The last two Democratic nominees have taken money from Russia, China, Ukraine and others, do you not see the hypocrisy? The progressives really have done a number on you. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:21:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not like you're registering your car. The whole point to the law is you are acting on behalf of a foreign power, which looks suspiciously like treason in many places. Here in the enlightened U.S, you can still do that legally and get paid handsomely for it. You just have to register yourself as an agent of a foreign country lobbying on their behalf. When you don't register until after you're caught, it looks more like the traitor thing. What like Podesta's, Biden's? |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:24:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So you are telling me that the Russian Embassy is directing human resources directly to black separatists instead of doing corporate espionage and shit? Seems low rent. Surprisingly, the Soviets (and then the Russians) were very big on "agents of influence" rather than what we'd see as traditional espionage. Look at Anna Chapman for an example. She literally didn't steal a single secret you couldn't get from a newspaper. Her job was to fuck her way to the top and influence decision-makers. had she been born in the U.S. and paid for it all with Uncle Joe's money instead of Uncle Vova's, she'd still be OK. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:25:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Apparently not enough money. Always a risk when you kick up to mobsters. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:25:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Suuuure they do. In your imagination. But we’re getting pretty far afield from American citizens being charged for violating FARA. That’s still bullshit. You only have to read some history to know this... use your head for once. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:30:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The KGB using American Communist stooges and useful idiots to foment discord in the United States? It’s so old school! What's the purpose of going after them, when our own intelligence and federal law enforcement has clearly been protecting and facilitating that sort of activity by high ranking officials? |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:34:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You only have to read some history to know this... use your head for once. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Suuuure they do. In your imagination. But we’re getting pretty far afield from American citizens being charged for violating FARA. That’s still bullshit. You only have to read some history to know this... use your head for once. Considering you were as convinced that Trump was literally a Russian bed pisser as any Q person was convinced of The Plan, I think I will go with my own insight. No offense. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:38:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Surprisingly, the Soviets (and then the Russians) were very big on "agents of influence" rather than what we'd see as traditional espionage. Look at Anna Chapman for an example. She literally didn't steal a single secret you couldn't get from a newspaper. Her job was to fuck her way to the top and influence decision-makers. had she been born in the U.S. and paid for it all with Uncle Joe's money instead of Uncle Vova's, she'd still be OK. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So you are telling me that the Russian Embassy is directing human resources directly to black separatists instead of doing corporate espionage and shit? Seems low rent. Surprisingly, the Soviets (and then the Russians) were very big on "agents of influence" rather than what we'd see as traditional espionage. Look at Anna Chapman for an example. She literally didn't steal a single secret you couldn't get from a newspaper. Her job was to fuck her way to the top and influence decision-makers. had she been born in the U.S. and paid for it all with Uncle Joe's money instead of Uncle Vova's, she'd still be OK. Yeah but SDS and infiltration of the state department and other subversive operations actually had strategic value. The efforts to drive animosity amongst blacks and other minority groups against whites was to create muscle for SDS to lead. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:39:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Considering you were as convinced that Trump was literally a Russian bed pisser as any Q person was convinced of The Plan, I think I will go with my own insight. No offense. I actually said that was unlikely. But quick.. come up with another misdirection.. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:42:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I actually said that was unlikely. But quick.. come up with another misdirection.. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Considering you were as convinced that Trump was literally a Russian bed pisser as any Q person was convinced of The Plan, I think I will go with my own insight. No offense. I actually said that was unlikely. But quick.. come up with another misdirection.. Misdirection from what towards what? |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:43:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's the purpose of going after them, when our own intelligence and federal law enforcement has clearly been protecting and facilitating that sort of activity by high ranking officials? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The KGB using American Communist stooges and useful idiots to foment discord in the United States? It’s so old school! What's the purpose of going after them, when our own intelligence and federal law enforcement has clearly been protecting and facilitating that sort of activity by high ranking officials? That type of nonsene is exactly what the Russia has been trying to encourage. The story states that Russian intelligence agents have been arrested. Even if Joe Biden and the entire CIA/FBI were filmed kicking puppies: arresting suspected Russian agents on a operation is a good thing for America and the rest is solvable by America itself. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:43:52 AM EDT
[#23]
If the doj is involved it is probably not in the best interest of America.
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:45:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah but SDS and infiltration of the state department and other subversive operations actually had strategic value. Sewing dissent and dividing a population has no strategic value? You should read more |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:50:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The DOJ isn't deciding that speech constitutes "illegal propaganda." They are alleging these Americans are operating as unregistered agents of a foreign power, which you know, you can easily avoid by not taking said foreign power's money. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 1) I neither believe nor trust a single word that comes out of DOJ at this point 2) I am not real big on the idea of the DOJ deciding that some speech constitutes "illegal propaganda" 3) I'm also not real big on the idea of them deciding to put people in prison for "sowing discord". That all sounds an awful lot like the DOJ trying to put people in jail for having unpopular opinions and then voicing them. Also, if the DOJ is suddenly interested in foreign governments giving money to and supporting political candidates for office, then they can probably find a nice, juicy target at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. The DOJ isn't deciding that speech constitutes "illegal propaganda." They are alleging these Americans are operating as unregistered agents of a foreign power, which you know, you can easily avoid by not taking said foreign power's money. So taking a foreign mega company's money to promote them and the country in which they reside doesnt count? |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:50:13 AM EDT
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FBI: Say it.
RUSSIAN: Say what? FBI: Say "moose and squirrel", say it. RUSSIAN: Why? FBI: Just do it! Say it! RUSSIAN: OK, moose and squirrel FBI: Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:52:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's the purpose of going after them, when our own intelligence and federal law enforcement has clearly been protecting and facilitating that sort of activity by high ranking officials? 
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:53:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sewing dissent and dividing a population has no strategic value? You should read more Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yeah but SDS and infiltration of the state department and other subversive operations actually had strategic value. Sewing dissent and dividing a population has no strategic value? You should read more No. You should read more. This specifically. State enforcement of speech codes is bad. Deporting foreign subversives is good. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:54:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No. You should read more. This specifically. State enforcement of speech codes is bad. Deporting foreign subversives is good. Being a paid agent of a foreign government is OK because it's commerce?  Ok then. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:57:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Being a paid agent of a foreign government is OK because it's commerce? Ok then. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No. You should read more. This specifically. State enforcement of speech codes is bad. Deporting foreign subversives is good. Being a paid agent of a foreign government is OK because it's commerce? Ok then. Paid to do what? Assassination? Actively participating in a war? Sell secrets? No. Say some shit? Absolutely. If your responsibility is to decide which foreigners should be allowed in to the country then get better at it. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:57:26 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The last two Democratic nominees have taken money from Russia, China, Ukraine and others, do you not see the hypocrisy? The progressives really have done a number on you. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Man, the progressives have done an outstanding job on you all. You think you're being resistant and obstructive to their cause, but you've played right into it. They've got you so twisted around that you are now supporting foreign propagandists sowing disinformation in our country with the intent of damaging it. They are using our freedoms to destroy us. And the patriots are helping them do it. Well done. The last two Democratic nominees have taken money from Russia, China, Ukraine and others, do you not see the hypocrisy? The progressives really have done a number on you. Two things can be true at the same time. That point is lost on the simple-minded. "I hate the government. The government says those people are enemies and are doing illegal things to try to harm me. Therefore, I must immediately conclude with no further information that they are NOT my enemies and that I must support and defend them doing the things that are harming me." |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:59:00 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That type of nonsene is exactly what the Russia has been trying to encourage. The story states that Russian intelligence agents have been arrested. Even if Joe Biden and the entire CIA/FBI were filmed kicking puppies: arresting suspected Russian agents on a operation is a good thing for America and the rest is solvable by America itself. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The KGB using American Communist stooges and useful idiots to foment discord in the United States? It’s so old school! What's the purpose of going after them, when our own intelligence and federal law enforcement has clearly been protecting and facilitating that sort of activity by high ranking officials? That type of nonsene is exactly what the Russia has been trying to encourage. The story states that Russian intelligence agents have been arrested. Even if Joe Biden and the entire CIA/FBI were filmed kicking puppies: arresting suspected Russian agents on a operation is a good thing for America and the rest is solvable by America itself. What nonsense? This is like saying Russians paying less than a couple hundred grand for some Facebook ads, was a bigger threat than the democrats/Clintons paying for Fusion GPS to work with Russians and corrupt US gov officals to fabricate intel and a narrative to engage in a coup against an elected President. The Bidens etc weren't receiving payments from Ukrainians, Russians, Chinese etc. To kick puppies. This story sounds like going after low hanging fruit for appearances. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:59:36 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Absolutely. If your responsibility is to decide which foreigners should be allowed in to the country then get better at it. Most would consider it treason but ok. What if done remotely, is that just international commerce? |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 8:02:15 AM EDT
[#34]
Lol. Imagine being so fucked in the head that you get upset about actual counter intelligence work.
Seems like there’s a lot of nervous accounts in this thread… 
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Posted: 4/20/2023 8:05:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Most would consider it treason but ok. What if done remotely, is that just international commerce? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Absolutely. If your responsibility is to decide which foreigners should be allowed in to the country then get better at it. Most would consider it treason but ok. What if done remotely, is that just international commerce? I’m pretty sure it’s just you talking so speak for yourself. Let’s leave the appeal to the hypothetical most out of it. What are they being paid to do? Bomb railways? Destruction of the means of manufacture of war materials? assassinations? Poisoning food or water supplies? Acts that if done anyway would be a crime? Those are crimes. Saying words that aren’t in advocacy of crimes? Yup, just commerce. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 8:09:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are going to get a lot of people that didn't read the article at all, but I did. I get the mistrust of our government, and it's completely justified mistrust, but I'm thinking, just in this case, they are actually doing good work. I feel a little sick just saying that, because I have next to no trust at all for our government myself. One thing really stuck out to me in the article. The leader of Black Hammer was charged in this. They were those commies that said they bought property in CO, but were run out by the sherriff of that area for trespassing. I agree. These people are shit birds and this is a good arrest GD hates the Feds so much that it overrides their logic when the Feds actually do something right. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 8:11:08 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m pretty sure it’s just you talking so speak for yourself. Let’s leave the appeal to the hypothetical most out of it. What are they being paid to do? Bomb railways? Destruction of the means of manufacture of war materials? assassinations? Poisoning food or water supplies? Acts that if done anyway would be a crime? Those are crimes. Saying words that aren’t in advocacy of crimes? Yup, just commerce. Coming from someone that clearly doesn't read any history books? Good luck. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 8:13:16 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Coming from someone that clearly doesn't read any history books? Good luck. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I’m pretty sure it’s just you talking so speak for yourself. Let’s leave the appeal to the hypothetical most out of it. What are they being paid to do? Bomb railways? Destruction of the means of manufacture of war materials? assassinations? Poisoning food or water supplies? Acts that if done anyway would be a crime? Those are crimes. Saying words that aren’t in advocacy of crimes? Yup, just commerce. Coming from someone that clearly doesn't read any history books? Good luck. I mean, I am not into burning heretics either. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 8:14:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So taking a foreign mega company's money to promote them and the country in which they reside doesnt count? If you're referring to Hunter, I imagine the legalities were addressed. And if they weren't, that's great fodder for the current House investigation, especially given the recent broad interpretations of that law. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 8:15:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree. These people are shit birds and this is a good arrest GD hates the Feds so much that it overrides their logic when the Feds actually do something right. Feds indicted a bunch of human smugglers last September. I expected GD to side with the human smugglers now. Here-feds indict human smugglers.   
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Posted: 4/20/2023 8:17:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I mean, I am not into burning heretics either. Not quite the same though, is it. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 8:22:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In this thread we wil complain about arresting Russian intelligence officers on some conspiracy charge  New GD just being new GD. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Are we at war with Russia or something? Declare it or GTFO We need to be in a war to realize there are nations that are hostile to the USA out there? In this thread we wil complain about arresting Russian intelligence officers on some conspiracy charge New GD just being new GD. We are suspicious of much of what a politicized DOJ puts out, know they don't a0ply the law equally, and think this is close to criminalizing speech - a current goal of our government. Off topic: Will donbass girl be arrested? |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 8:22:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not quite the same though, is it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I mean, I am not into burning heretics either. Not quite the same though, is it. Yes? One group is punished because they have profaned the authority of god’s absolute authority over creation This group has profaned the federal government’s absolute authority over who can speak in return for federal reserve notes. They didn’t slaughter a goat on the proper altar. Ok. Let’s meet in the middle here. We save millions prosecuting these people to fill pot holes in interstate highways. We make them pay the proper fees. But instead of deporting the Russians we grind them up to fill the potholes. We both win. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 8:25:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What nonsense? This is like saying Russians paying less than a couple hundred grand for some Facebook ads, was a bigger threat than the democrats/Clintons paying for Fusion GPS to work with Russians and corrupt US gov officals to fabricate intel and a narrative to engage in a coup against an elected President. The Bidens etc weren't receiving payments from Ukrainians, Russians, Chinese etc. To kick puppies. This story sounds like going after low hanging fruit for appearances. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The KGB using American Communist stooges and useful idiots to foment discord in the United States? It’s so old school! What's the purpose of going after them, when our own intelligence and federal law enforcement has clearly been protecting and facilitating that sort of activity by high ranking officials? That type of nonsene is exactly what the Russia has been trying to encourage. The story states that Russian intelligence agents have been arrested. Even if Joe Biden and the entire CIA/FBI were filmed kicking puppies: arresting suspected Russian agents on a operation is a good thing for America and the rest is solvable by America itself. What nonsense? This is like saying Russians paying less than a couple hundred grand for some Facebook ads, was a bigger threat than the democrats/Clintons paying for Fusion GPS to work with Russians and corrupt US gov officals to fabricate intel and a narrative to engage in a coup against an elected President. The Bidens etc weren't receiving payments from Ukrainians, Russians, Chinese etc. To kick puppies. This story sounds like going after low hanging fruit for appearances. Interweaving the two. Russia as a active operation to weaken American society and thrawting that is good. US national issues should be solvable by the US itself but the proper evidence needs to be there. I've said it in a differnt thread: Conservatives mistrust the government and a check on governemt power is a positive thing BUT Russia has maginified the mistrust it to such an extent that it becomes strategically detrimental to America in the sense that every government action is presumed to be evil and the ability to counter hostile nations is diminished. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 8:36:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes? One group is punished because they have profaned the authority of god’s absolute authority over creation This group has profaned the federal government’s absolute authority over who can speak in return for federal reserve notes. They didn’t slaughter a goat on the proper altar. The government's authority equals God's authority. That's quite a leap. Please just read 1 history book. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 8:42:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The government's authority equals God's authority. That's quite a leap. Please just read 1 history book. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yes? One group is punished because they have profaned the authority of god’s absolute authority over creation This group has profaned the federal government’s absolute authority over who can speak in return for federal reserve notes. They didn’t slaughter a goat on the proper altar. The government's authority equals God's authority. That's quite a leap. Please just read 1 history book. Yeah, they’re both made up bullshit to keep the priests fat and wrangle retards into being slaves in this life for the promise of imaginary rewards in death. The main upgrade being the pension plan in the federal governments case. I learned that after reading some history books. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 8:56:09 AM EDT
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The 80s called, they want their foreign policy back.
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Posted: 4/20/2023 9:04:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The 80s called, they want their foreign policy back. The 80s called, Russia is back at it again. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 9:05:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: These guys were smuggling illegal aliens for the Russians? Those bastards. Only the federal government is allowed to smuggle illegal aliens. Nope, for profit. Are you sticking up for them now? |
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