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Posted: 9/20/2019 2:28:46 AM EDT
After reigning in the auto industry as the powertrain of choice for a century, the internal combustion engine is finally dying. Now even Daimler says that it is stopping development of new internal combustion engines to focus on electric cars. The German automaker whose namesake, Gottlieb Daimler, is credited for having invented the prototype of the modern gasoline engine recently released its latest generation internal combustion engine and it might be its last. According to German magazine Auto Motor und Sport, Daimler development chief Markus Schaefer said that they currently have no plans to develop a next-generation combustion engine and they are focusing on new electric powertrains. View Quote |
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Soon to be the next victims of "Get woke go broke". Electric will eventually be the future but it isn't here yet and betting the farm that you'll make it viable in the next 5-10 years is a bold/retarded strategy. |
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Colt Mfg reported on Fox Business Network earlier yesterday that they bought majority interest in Daimler Benz.
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So says this development chief. And the next one will be brought in to take the company back to its roots to refocus of new gas engines, then the next chief will be brought in to usher in the future again. Rinse. Repeat.
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They might as well be focusing on unicorn farts. It is not the place of large organizations to force discovery. They should be using their budgets to refine technology and purchase or license others’ revolutionary innovations.
Batteries are heavy and carry far less energy by weight than combustible fuels. |
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Who cares. The world ends in 12 years anyhow right? Get working on those bucket lists boys.
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It could be that IC engines are just about as good as they can be without using insanely expensive materials.
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All while Germany produces electricity by coal plants.
Fucking retards Another reason to hate Mercedes |
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Now I see why Chrysler broke up with them. https://68.media.tumblr.com/b28308c5b4977e3bd22ee9cd690ec35b/tumblr_n87mk3v9Mb1qib7wuo7_r1_500.gif View Quote |
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I guess they figure the gasoline engine technologies they currently possess are adequate.
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It could be that IC engines are just about as good as they can be without using insanely expensive materials. View Quote When they say, “we are stopping further development” it really means: Our current development projects encompass our next generation engine programs for the next 12-15 years. Further resources will now be spent on electric development for future deployment. |
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Either madness, or convergence, unfortunately no one here who is running their mouth is smart enough to tell the difference.
Let’s wait and see shall we? |
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Quoted: When they say, “we are stopping further development” it really means: Our current development projects encompass our next generation engine programs for the next 12-15 years. Further resources will now be spent on electric development for future deployment. View Quote That little turbo 4 is the SHITS as far as development |
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All while Germany produces electricity by coal plants. Fucking retards Another reason to hate Mercedes View Quote Attached File |
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I guess they figure the gasoline engine technologies they currently possess are adequate. View Quote Tell me Mercedes, what got you to do that in 28 hours with an electric car? Because so far, only an internal combustion vehicle can do that. MB is virtue signalling to their ignorant buyer base insulated from reality. |
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They should be focusing on hybrid electric powertrains not just pure Electric
That's a pretty dumb move |
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Many European countries are straight up banning the sale of the ICE cars by 2030 so I imagine that plays a significant role in the decision.
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Quoted: Using Tesla's recharging stations and working with the timetables, it takes you two weeks to cross the United States. Tell me Mercedes, what got you to do that in 28 hours with an electric car? Because so far, only an internal combustion vehicle can do that. MB is virtue signalling to their ignorant buyer base insulated from reality. View Quote Here is a canonball run time in a Tesla for you. Better time than a few ICE cars I’ve done it in 2.75 days on a bit more leasurely route The last half carrying 5 adults and luggage https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-3-ev-cannonball-run-record-video/amp/ 2 weeks? You are woefully uneducated on the |
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They might as well be focusing on unicorn farts. It is not the place of large organizations to force discovery. They should be using their budgets to refine technology and purchase or license others' revolutionary innovations. Batteries are heavy and carry far less energy by weight than combustible fuels. View Quote Attached File How soon peeps forget. Big issue - worldwide production capacity. We'll see if forecasts for production, cost and density hold true. Even so, 70-80% of capacity will remain in China. Which is a consideration few concern themselves with. |
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Now I see why Chrysler broke up with them. https://68.media.tumblr.com/b28308c5b4977e3bd22ee9cd690ec35b/tumblr_n87mk3v9Mb1qib7wuo7_r1_500.gif View Quote |
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The manufacturers are giving up on cars and only making SUV's and trucks. How is that battery system going to make it with heavier vehicles, towing, and long distance.
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Quoted: Using Tesla's recharging stations and working with the timetables, it takes you two weeks to cross the United States. Tell me Mercedes, what got you to do that in 28 hours with an electric car? Because so far, only an internal combustion vehicle can do that. MB is virtue signalling to their ignorant buyer base insulated from reality. View Quote Or they could rely on existing ICE and hybrid technology which is pretty damn good already. |
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Quoted: Complete and total BS Here is a canonball run time in a Tesla for you. Better time than a few ICE cars I’ve done it in 2.75 days on a bit more leasurely route The last half carrying 5 adults and luggage https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-3-ev-cannonball-run-record-video/amp/ 2 weeks? You are woefully uneducated on the View Quote |
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Mercedes' biggest problem is that their value/quality has dropped below all the Japanese manufacturers, Ford, and others. The value of used Mercedes have dropped like rocks. Maybe they figure a simple electric design will save the company. But, I don't think they can compete with the Chinese in the electric car market. Most likely, Daimler is on its last breaths.
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The manufacturers are giving up on cars and only making SUV's and trucks. How is that battery system going to make it with heavier vehicles, towing, and long distance. View Quote Funny thing only 278k were Hybrid 190k Plug-in hybrid/full Batt in Europe (about 350k/150k). MB is a premium brand which insulates them some from general market trends, but Daimler is hoping to benefit from various forms of govt subsidation to make their vehicles more attractive. Real question is - where's the batteries for 40M cars. This ain't happening tomorrow - and likely never |
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So when will the electric grid be updated to support all of these electric vehicles? It sounds like the cart before the horse
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This guy gets it. There is not enough juice left in the IC engine for the squeeze required to get it. View Quote |
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This has been the case for roughly 3 years now with all Euro automakers. They have all essentially abandoned development of all new IC engines. Resources have shifted to electric. Nobody wants to be left behind. Believe me when I say the supply base manufacturing these engine components is freaking out.
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They should be focusing on hybrid electric powertrains not just pure Electric That's a pretty dumb move View Quote |
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It could be that IC engines are just about as good as they can be without using insanely expensive materials. View Quote |
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stupid idea on their part.
Wide scale adoption of electric is 25-50 years out |
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Hybrid is the way to go. I know most of you laugh at the Prius, but mine is going on 4 years old and it is bullet proof transportation. Point A to B. makes its own electricity, sips on gas. Not a super car but it was designed for every day driving. Tesla is an example of a family super car but it has a limited range because it is 100% electric. Put a small gas motor in one and you have a winner. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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They should be focusing on hybrid electric powertrains not just pure Electric That's a pretty dumb move Personally, I have no interest in a hybrid, but would love a pure EV to DD. |
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