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Oroville Spillway Flyover September 30, 2017 |
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Would have been cheaper to just put a hole in the dam, then the precious fish could have swam through. California would rejoice, until it rained.
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Approximately what date do the rains return to the region? Are they very close to running out of time?
I don't think they can place concrete on site if its raining there, regardless of the lake level. |
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Approximately what date do the rains return to the region? Are they very close to running out of time? I don't think they can place concrete on site if its raining there, regardless of the lake level. View Quote |
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They have made some progress
August 7 Attached File August 14 Attached File August 23 Attached File September 6 Attached File September 29 Attached File |
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Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4 https://i.imgur.com/mVzWj6k.jpg https://i.imgur.com/m8cGc8k.jpg https://i.imgur.com/nOUQudz.jpg https://i.imgur.com/I5hHTuJ.jpg View Quote They've probably sold far more of everything with these photos anyway. |
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Kinda amazed at the pics at the backside of the dam knowing months ago all of it was under 100+ feet of water.
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Now how quickly is it going to fill back up? View Quote Betting PMags and memberships is so passé. |
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Oroville Update 4 Oct "4 Weeks and 85 feet to Go!" |
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Oroville Spillway Update October 3, 2017 |
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I will bet you one waxed box of Czech 26.5mm White Flares that it will fill slower than last year if they keep the current power plant output going. This includes the prediction that this will be a wetter winter than last year. Betting PMags and memberships is so passé. View Quote |
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Lol, thanks for the laugh but I'm going to pass. This dam is still being run by CA DWR. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I will bet you one waxed box of Czech 26.5mm White Flares that it will fill slower than last year if they keep the current power plant output going. This includes the prediction that this will be a wetter winter than last year. Betting PMags and memberships is so passé. If they go into storage mode once the new spillway is completed, the Corps of Engineers should revoke all CA .gov control of their dams. |
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Oroville Spillway Flyover October 4, 2017 |
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They will need to pour about 3 feet of RCC every 24 hours to meet the 11/1 deadline. I think they will be able to get it done because the surface area gets smaller with every inch the can pour, but it's still going to be a tight schedule. Very impressive work!
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Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4 Fire nearby... https://i.imgur.com/22IjNIt.jpg https://i.imgur.com/evPQG47.jpg getting closer to filling that hole. https://i.imgur.com/lVxh8uU.jpg View Quote |
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They're saying the stream is down because of the fires.
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Oroville Spillway Update October 5, 2017 |
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Where is Juan and the mighty Luscombe? View Quote Local fire update near Grass Valley, CA Nevada Co. Ca. 9 Oct. |
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View Quote I'm sure they have flow charts figuring everything down to the last square yard of concrete. It looks like it is going to be a race to the finish. Every time I watch one of these fly over videos I keep seeing all the "stuff" that is going to have to be removed when they are done. All sorts of mechanized equipment, piles of supplies, crates of all sorts, trash and debris. It is going to take a long time to clean up. I wonder how much will be left on site till next summers phase starts up? |
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Oroville Spillway Update October 10, 2017 |
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Imagine how little would be done if the permitting and environmental process had not been lifted.
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Oroville Spillway Update October 11, 2017 |
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Oroville Update 12 Oct. 55' to go! |
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I think they could have dredged the hillside out of the river, or do they have an environmental law against that as well? I suppose where to dump the rock would have been an issue, as well as the gold content. I'm curious how much gold they recovered prior to making it into RCC aggregate.
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I wonder how they are progressing with the secant cutoff wall.
I haven't heard much about it recently but it doesn't look like they moved past where the shoo-fly (or is it shoe-fly?) power line was. |
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So with all the RCC going into that hole, is it just gonna be one big lump of concrete, with no rebar at all?
will it not crack at some stage in the future, because reasons? Just seems to be very contrary to the very little I know about concrete, and these sorts of projects, generally. |
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I think they could have dredged the hillside out of the river, or do they have an environmental law against that as well? I suppose where to dump the rock would have been an issue, as well as the gold content. I'm curious how much gold they recovered prior to making it into RCC aggregate. View Quote |
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So with all the RCC going into that hole, is it just gonna be one big lump of concrete, with no rebar at all? will it not crack at some stage in the future, because reasons? Just seems to be very contrary to the very little I know about concrete, and these sorts of projects, generally. View Quote |
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The RCC is going to get removed and replaced with normal concrete, I think next year. View Quote They do expect it to crack. The stuff that's there will be getting one more hardened layer over top of it this season... and then next season they'll grind way some of it and put the same reinforced concrete surface over top of it just like the rest of the spillway. As I understand it the RCC underneath will behave pretty much as if it were the bedrock that should have been there... |
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I think they could have dredged the hillside out of the river, or do they have an environmental law against that as well? I suppose where to dump the rock would have been an issue, as well as the gold content. I'm curious how much gold they recovered prior to making it into RCC aggregate. View Quote Sure there may have been some given the amount of dirt moved but I would be willing to bet it is far less then most speculate. I saw zero evidence of any teritary gravels which is were a decent amount of gold would have been if it was there. They used to hydraulic up highway 49 out of Nevada city, North San Juan and bloomingfield I believe are the names. to give you an idea of the amount of earth moved in those spots going after gold. All the gold mining in the Oroville area is done upstream of Lake Oroville in the Feather river canyon and such. Not so much anymore as dredging has been outlawed for about a decade now. |
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Probably a lot less then everyone seems to think. Here is the deal, gold mining has been happening in California for along time. If that hillside had any meaningful amounts of gold it would have been mined one way or another long ago, the fact that is hasn't tells me all I need to know about it's gold bearing content. Sure there may have been some given the amount of dirt moved but I would be willing to bet it is far less then most speculate. I saw zero evidence of any teritary gravels which is were a decent amount of gold would have been if it was there. They used to hydraulic up highway 49 out of Nevada city, North San Juan and bloomingfield I believe are the names. to give you an idea of the amount of earth moved in those spots going after gold. All the gold mining in the Oroville area is done upstream of Lake Oroville in the Feather river canyon and such. Not so much anymore as dredging has been outlawed for about a decade now. View Quote of this mess. So much that the State claimed ownership of said gold. |
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Early in this thread reports that people were finding lots of gold downstream after the first few weeks of this mess. So much that the State claimed ownership of said gold. View Quote Nobody in a recreational mining setup is going to move the amount of material in an entire summer of looking much less a few weeks compared to a dredge of any size 4 and up. It's also entirely likely the high flow event turned the river and re-stratified and moved gold already in the river channel. I was in this thread early and all I ever saw was speculation, never any actual results. |
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How were they finding gold?? You cannot dredge for gold in the entire state and haven't been able to for 10+ years, I know I have a 4 inch keene dredge on the side of my house. So this leaves gold panning which will never get you much gold. The other would be sluicing which you can do pretty good at if you have a good spot 6-7 pennyweight a day if you know what your doing. happen to know how many pennyweights in an ounce? Nobody in a recreational mining setup is going to move the amount of material in an entire summer of looking much less a few weeks compared to a dredge of any size 4 and up. It's also entirely likely the high flow event turned the river and re-stratified and moved gold already in the river channel. I was in this thread early and all I ever saw was speculation, never any actual results. View Quote |
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