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Posted: 8/9/2019 4:52:24 PM EDT
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I was fan. I was hoping he would say his statement was taken out of context or some shit, but the sentence he says at 49:50 is so fucked up, he should stop claiming veteran status.... "We monopolize the use of force as a govt to prevent injustices done against each other..." Can someone please slap this fucker with a pocket Constitution! Explain to him that that is NOT the role of Govt before he strips someone of their right to due process! FDC Last time I checked, the Govt was supposed to be comprised of ordinary citizens that are equally subject to the law. I guess his mental health is faltering. Someone should take his guns away. |
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You are being excedelingly hyperbolic.
out of everyone who’s thrown their hat in the gun control ring, his is the only one I’d trust to implement a red flag law, the protections and due process to protect gun owners is the kind such a law needs, multiple witnesses, and or compelling preponderance of evidence, consequences for liars and false reports, representation and due process. |
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You are being excedelingly hyperbolic. out of everyone who’s thrown their hat in the gun control ring, his is the only one I’d trust to implement a red flag law, the protections and due process to protect gun owners is the kind such a law needs, multiple witnesses, and or compelling preponderance of evidence, consequences for liars and false reports, representation and due process. View Quote |
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You are being excedelingly hyperbolic. out of everyone who’s thrown their hat in the gun control ring, his is the only one I’d trust to implement a red flag law, the protections and due process to protect gun owners is the kind such a law needs, multiple witnesses, and or compelling preponderance of evidence, consequences for liars and false reports, representation and due process. View Quote The whole point of red flag laws is to reduce due process. Dan Crenshaw knows this. But he thinks he can fool you into thinking it's possible to both make it easier to take people's guns away without the government having to really prove someone is a criminal or has criminal intent and yet keep the government from being able to capriciously violate people's rights. Because he thinks you're a fucking moron. |
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You are being excedelingly hyperbolic. out of everyone who’s thrown their hat in the gun control ring, his is the only one I’d trust to implement a red flag law, the protections and due process to protect gun owners is the kind such a law needs, multiple witnesses, and or compelling preponderance of evidence, consequences for liars and false reports, representation and due process. View Quote This is literally "Guilty until proven innocent." |
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You are being excedelingly hyperbolic. out of everyone who’s thrown their hat in the gun control ring, his is the only one I’d trust to implement a red flag law, the protections and due process to protect gun owners is the kind such a law needs, multiple witnesses, and or compelling preponderance of evidence, consequences for liars and false reports, representation and due process. View Quote |
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Ya he kicked a hornets nest on this one. He’s getting lit up on social media. Good.
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Quoted: Allow me to free you from your delusion. The whole point of red flag laws is to reduce due process. Dan Crenshaw knows this. But he thinks he can fool you into thinking it's possible to both make it easier to take people's guns away without the government having to really prove someone is a criminal or has criminal intent and yet keep the government from being able to capriciously violate people's rights. Because he thinks you're a fucking moron. View Quote |
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He definitely didn't clear it up enough. Seal's aren't known for sound political policy though.
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Monopolization of the use of force by government is a conservative principle?
Where in the fuck is he getting this shit? |
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I tried to write my displeasure with his stance on Red Flag laws using his congressional web page, but because I am not in his Houston district it prevented me from submitting my views.
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I always find it refreshingly face-palm when everyone assumes that because someone has endured BUD/s or SF or Ranger training, that they are now somehow sainted with common sense.
He's a statist that happened to be in good enough physical and mental condition to withstand harsh training. There's millions more just like him. |
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You are being excedelingly hyperbolic. out of everyone who's thrown their hat in the gun control ring, his is the only one I'd trust to implement a red flag law, the protections and due process to protect gun owners is the kind such a law needs, multiple witnesses, and or compelling preponderance of evidence, consequences for liars and false reports, representation and due process. View Quote |
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Fucking clown thinks he's gonna rewrite "Conservative" philosophies
Fuck that one eyed fuck |
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I didn’t think my Respect for a politician has been so high, and then drop so low, so quickly.
Man is a liar. Once a liar, ALWAYS a liar. American Citizens have learned this hard lesson over the last couple decades. Remember DANnn..This ain’t the day an age of your mentor, times are a changin’ Maybe as individuals in the past we wouldn’t of remembered.....but Pepperridge Farm remembers. |
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You are being excedelingly hyperbolic. out of everyone who’s thrown their hat in the gun control ring, his is the only one I’d trust to implement a red flag law, the protections and due process to protect gun owners is the kind such a law needs, multiple witnesses, and or compelling preponderance of evidence, consequences for liars and false reports, representation and due process. View Quote This place is off the rails. |
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You are being excedelingly hyperbolic. out of everyone who's thrown their hat in the gun control ring, his is the only one I'd trust to implement a red flag law, the protections and due process to protect gun owners is the kind such a law needs, multiple witnesses, and or compelling preponderance of evidence, consequences for liars and false reports, representation and due process. View Quote |
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LOL, it was former Seals with Trident Security that were pointing guns at people who didn't want the statues to come down in NO. Contracted civilian snipers given special authority to point Sniper Rifles at Americans, and to infiltrate groups opposed to the taking down of the statues
https://www.nola.com/news/politics/article_5b78a021-9a56-5f55-b95b-79720920b0b9.html |
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I have noticed a trend of former spec ops types thinking of every other gun owner as plebs and themselves as special. It seems Dan is one of those types.
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You are being excedelingly hyperbolic. out of everyone who’s thrown their hat in the gun control ring, his is the only one I’d trust to implement a red flag law, the protections and due process to protect gun owners is the kind such a law needs, multiple witnesses, and or compelling preponderance of evidence, consequences for liars and false reports, representation and due process. View Quote |
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You are being excedelingly hyperbolic. out of everyone who’s thrown their hat in the gun control ring, his is the only one I’d trust to implement a red flag law, the protections and due process to protect gun owners is the kind such a law needs, multiple witnesses, and or compelling preponderance of evidence, consequences for liars and false reports, representation and due process. View Quote |
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You are being excedelingly hyperbolic. out of everyone who’s thrown their hat in the gun control ring, his is the only one I’d trust to implement a red flag law, the protections and due process to protect gun owners is the kind such a law needs, multiple witnesses, and or compelling preponderance of evidence, consequences for liars and false reports, representation and due process. View Quote He is plainly stating that government has a monopoly on use of force... and that they should. |
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You are being excedelingly hyperbolic. out of everyone who’s thrown their hat in the gun control ring, his is the only one I’d trust to implement a red flag law, the protections and due process to protect gun owners is the kind such a law needs, multiple witnesses, and or compelling preponderance of evidence, consequences for liars and false reports, representation and due process. View Quote |
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just watched the clip. He's pissing me off but if it was written the way he described it, at least he's aware of some things that would keep it from being abused. Still a shit law and we need to fight the hell out of it. Totally Unconstitutional
couple of things he mentioned, that he thinks will keep it from being abused. - standing to file a RFL limited to police or immediate family members - punishments for frivolous use - a defined process to fight it Crowder asked some good questions, and like us, clearly disagrees with it. |
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I saw him try to explain his way out of it on Crowder’s show last night. Expanding local LEO’s access to the profiling database is one thing, given a court order is one thing but as I understand this is beyond that and gets into “Red Flag” territory. That’s a no-go for me, RFL is a violation of several Amendments and as we’ve recently seen in the Md case, deadly.
Sorry, I don’t trust the Feds to play by the rules and damn sure won’t hand them more “wiggle room.” Dan and others need to wise the fuck up on these. |
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ARFGD isn't going to like anyone talking gun policy that doesn't walk around all day in a modified Weaver Stance. I think that's ok. I happen to believe we should implement ObamaCarry...everyone MUST own and carry a gun or face tax penalties. You can't board a plane without a handgun. The country would get very polite overnight. We may even see an increase in turn-signal use and a decrease in littering. Everybody wins.
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NO government deserves a monopoly on the use of force. That only fully enables abuse of power. What does this turd thinks he is...an Afghani warlord? A Somali General?
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As has been said, red flag laws are the real-world version of Pre-crime. You identify who you believe might violate the law and you treat them as though they already have.
It's a 4th Amendment nightmare. |
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You are being excedelingly hyperbolic. out of everyone who’s thrown their hat in the gun control ring, his is the only one I’d trust to implement a red flag law, the protections and due process to protect gun owners is the kind such a law needs, multiple witnesses, and or compelling preponderance of evidence, consequences for liars and false reports, representation and due process. View Quote |
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Weird. He's ok with fighting for due process in some cases but not others. Today he posted:
This is good news. The lack of due process in the Navy is frightening. Time to stick up for our service members who are being targeted by investigators and the JAG Corps. View Quote |
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ARFGD isn't going to like anyone talking gun policy that doesn't walk around all day in a modified Weaver Stance. I think that's ok. I happen to believe we should implement ObamaCarry...everyone MUST own and carry a gun or face tax penalties. You can't board a plane without a handgun. The country would get very polite overnight. We may even see an increase in turn-signal use and a decrease in littering. Everybody wins. "Excuse me sir if you want to go through this check point I need to see your plane gun" |
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Quoted: I just want to see an overweight African American woman in a TSA uniform say. "Excuse me sir if you want to go through this check point I need to see your plane gun" View Quote |
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