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Posted: 9/13/2022 5:25:47 PM EDT
Wife found this in our yard today. There was a shooting and police standoff for like 7 hours last week, and we heard on the MRAP speakers they were going in with gas. Saw the guys mask up and heard what pop smoke actually sounds like, so that’s cool.
Figured I would turn to the experts here. What the hell is this thing? Wife also found a smashed “night vision/gun flashlight battery” that’s just a worse brand of CR 123 than is currently in my holster ;-) Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Shooting and police standoff in the yard? Glad you are okay.
I’m curious where the rest of it is. Maybe some sort of device that burns up the lower part? |
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Quoted: Part of the fuze igniter assembly. Screws in the top. Pull pin while holding spoon. Either drop or throw and the spoon releases and the spring loaded part strikes and ignites the fuse which ignited the smoke. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/367483/00760F7C-8998-4CCC-9573-32DA3AC2D2C8-2525148.jpg View Quote A cali bro would screw this up |
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Quoted: Quoted: Part of the fuze igniter assembly. Screws in the top. Pull pin while holding spoon. Either drop or throw and the spoon releases and the spring loaded part strikes and ignites the fuse which ignited the smoke. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/367483/00760F7C-8998-4CCC-9573-32DA3AC2D2C8-2525148.jpg A cali bro would screw this up Ooops. |
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Quoted: Part of the fuze igniter assembly. Screws in the top. Pull pin while holding spoon. Either drop or throw and the spoon releases and the spring loaded part strikes and ignites the fuze which ignites the smoke. Something similar to this. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/367483/00760F7C-8998-4CCC-9573-32DA3AC2D2C8-2525148.jpg Or it may have been the type that the whole smoke canister burns away. View Quote This. If you lift the top the spring is pushing down you can see the primer and the spike. I’m surprised the police didn’t take that as evidence. |
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Quoted: Its the registered no no part https://media1.tenor.com/images/95ecb20486b206a7bafe9096e12569d7/tenor.gif?itemid=15886187 View Quote Is it something that should be returned? Being serious. |
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Quoted: Is it something that should be returned? Being serious. View Quote Id probably just throw it in the trash can I think the fuses are what atf gets bent out of shape about in some cases when they are live But yours is no different than one of the fake grenades from a army store since its used <---- not a grenade expert though so ymmv |
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Quoted: OP were you involved in a View Quote No. Neighbors thought it was a good idea to shoot 2 police officers in their yard over their failure to appear for dumb petty shit. The SWAT, FAST, and a number of actual big swinging dicks thought it was a bad idea and then drove an mrap into their house to make sure the message was heard. |
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Quoted: How do we tell the difference? View Quote They don't actually have to be recovered. ATF prefers to be notified of the expenditure of any DDs that are registered to the agency on Form 5. If not, they'll assume the agency still has it. The smaller flashbangs/NFDDs and stuff like smoke grenades are uncontrolled, so they wouldn't have been transferred on F5 anyway. |
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Quoted: Id probably just throw it in the trash can I think the fuses are what atf gets bent out of shape about in some cases when they are live But yours is no different than one of the fake grenades from a army store since its used <---- not a grenade expert though so ymmv View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Is it something that should be returned? Being serious. Id probably just throw it in the trash can I think the fuses are what atf gets bent out of shape about in some cases when they are live But yours is no different than one of the fake grenades from a army store since its used <---- not a grenade expert though so ymmv The spike and spring are removed on the ones I have. I have a green spoon (meaning live grenade) on one of mine. |
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The military smoke grenades were all metal cans that stayed attached and intact after use (unless they’ve changed), so I’m guessing flash bang or something.
Years back a really nice house close to me go raided early in the morning. I saw a large truck blocking my drive and went out ready to cuss someone out. It was the swat truck and I got out just as they were knocking the door in and tossing flash bangs. They weren’t that loud outside of the house. Maybe what you were hearing. |
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Quoted: No. Neighbors thought it was a good idea to shoot 2 police officers in their yard over their failure to appear for dumb petty shit. The SWAT, FAST, and a number of actual big swinging dicks thought it was a bad idea and then drove an mrap into their house to make sure the message was heard. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: OP were you involved in a No. Neighbors thought it was a good idea to shoot 2 police officers in their yard over their failure to appear for dumb petty shit. The SWAT, FAST, and a number of actual big swinging dicks thought it was a bad idea and then drove an mrap into their house to make sure the message was heard. Link to video?... |
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Recover the spoons and pins, and your kids will have something unique to play with.
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Quoted: This. If you lift the top the spring is pushing down you can see the primer and the spike. I’m surprised the police didn’t take that as evidence. View Quote Or piss themselves, arrest OP for stealing law enforcement weapons of mass destruction, and kill his dogs while throwing up a cordon around the neighborhood and calling in the DEA, BATFE, and National Guard to quell those deplorables. Will OP invite The Man into his life and call them reporting finding the scary war munition? |
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It’s considered waste, disposable, and there’s no legal issue with you having it. Keep it as a souvenir if you want.
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Bouchon or fuze, not to be confused with fuse.
Easy to reactivate, per the interwebz & YT. The lack of a jungle clip notch in the lower outer part where the spoon sits means it’s either a smoke, flash bang or Thermate M201A1 vs the M213 fuze. Or, so I’ve read…. |
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Quoted: Or piss themselves, arrest OP for stealing law enforcement weapons of mass destruction, and kill his dogs while throwing up a cordon around the neighborhood and calling in the DEA, BATFE, and National Guard to quell those deplorables. Will OP invite The Man into his life and call them reporting finding the scary war munition? View Quote Man was already in my life after Thursday Attached File Attached File |
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OP, I wasn't trying to be edgy. I would have given anything as a kid to have found one of those.
We lost two dummy pineapples in the vacant lot across the street. Years later after a house was built there, someone left a muddy dummy pineapple at my parent's front door. The fuse was broken off. I guess the builders knew where it came from. Yep, we were those kids. |
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Quoted: No. Neighbors thought it was a good idea to shoot 2 police officers in their yard over their failure to appear for dumb petty shit. The SWAT, FAST, and a number of actual big swinging dicks thought it was a bad idea and then drove an mrap into their house to make sure the message was heard. View Quote Attached File |
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Quoted: (assuming officers are safe) /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/BAF8FBC3-D9DC-4235-94E3-187BAC8B7396-93.jpg View Quote The first 2 unfortunate passed. The remaining 400 or so that showed up pushed the bad guys shit in. |
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Quoted: Is it something that should be returned? Being serious. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Its the registered no no part https://media1.tenor.com/images/95ecb20486b206a7bafe9096e12569d7/tenor.gif?itemid=15886187 Is it something that should be returned? Being serious. As far as I know, it is NOT illegal to possess. I have seen them for sale at gun shows over the years and I once saw a demonstration of them being used along with a 209 shotgun primer and a pin to create a pull sting perimeter alarm (legit, that is not code for a DD). DISCLAIMER - I am NOT a Lawyer and I am NOT giving legal advice. |
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Quoted: Is it something that should be returned? Being serious. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Its the registered no no part https://media1.tenor.com/images/95ecb20486b206a7bafe9096e12569d7/tenor.gif?itemid=15886187 Is it something that should be returned? Being serious. No. They are not typically reloaded unless you do it yourself by drilling out the popped primer. |
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Quoted: Or piss themselves, arrest OP for stealing law enforcement weapons of mass destruction, and kill his dogs while throwing up a cordon around the neighborhood and calling in the DEA, BATFE, and National Guard to quell those deplorables. Will OP invite The Man into his life and call them reporting finding the scary war munition? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: This. If you lift the top the spring is pushing down you can see the primer and the spike. I’m surprised the police didn’t take that as evidence. Or piss themselves, arrest OP for stealing law enforcement weapons of mass destruction, and kill his dogs while throwing up a cordon around the neighborhood and calling in the DEA, BATFE, and National Guard to quell those deplorables. Will OP invite The Man into his life and call them reporting finding the scary war munition? You might want to talk to your doctor about upping the dose. |
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Quoted: Recover the spoons and pins, and your kids will have something unique to play with. View Quote @markypie I think I found some Of the spoon this morning Attached File Attached File |
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Quoted: @markypie I think I found some Of the spoon this morning https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/CE516F04-CD08-41AC-9A91-7DF258950A9B_jpe-2527941.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/66320AF2-07A3-4608-9B73-78EEC99705F2_jpe-2527942.JPG View Quote Yep, that's the spoon. Most likely from a flash bang. |
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Quoted: Yep, that's the spoon. Most likely from a flash bang. View Quote Or smoke/CS/OC. As mentioned earlier in the thread, looks to be an M201 style fuze. The spoon probably got ran over by a vehicle and split at the bend. ETA: https://cat-uxo.com/explosive-hazards/fuzes/m201-fuze |
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