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Posted: 2/11/2021 2:28:43 PM EDT
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under current production?
impossible to say. none of them have been around long enough to know. historically. this little motor.  I see these things with 300k plus miles, all the damn time. weekly. I have one in the shop now getting a window regulator. |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 2:29:10 PM EDT
[#2]
International Harvester
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Posted: 2/11/2021 2:30:27 PM EDT
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Typically the Cummins engine will last longer than the shitbox it's installed in.
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Posted: 2/11/2021 2:31:19 PM EDT
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CUMMINS 5.9 because 5.9 CUMMINS is 5.9 CUMMINS
You CUMMINS? |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 2:31:46 PM EDT
[#5]
Bro thread
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Posted: 2/11/2021 2:31:54 PM EDT
[#6]
Kubota!
I'd say you mean in vehicles though. |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 2:32:54 PM EDT
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If you are talking new light duty trucks, most likely Cummins. They even went and changed the CP4 to a modified CP3 to increase reliability, so they obviously are on top of shit. Of course the emissions and Fiat wrapper will take its toll on reliability...
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Posted: 2/11/2021 2:33:42 PM EDT
[#8]
And here...we....go.
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Posted: 2/11/2021 2:34:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Kubota! I'd say you mean in vehicles though. Kubota + Ford Fiesta!  Super Milage Car - Diesel Ford Festiva 60 MPG City |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 2:35:28 PM EDT
[#10]
Cummins
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Posted: 2/11/2021 2:36:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: under current production? impossible to say. none of them have been around long enough to know. historically. this little motor. https://cdn.drivingline.com/media/2323598/bosch-ve-injection-pump-volkswagen-alh-diesel.jpg I see these things with 300k plus miles, all the damn time. weekly. I have one in the shop now getting a window regulator. Old VW?? |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 2:37:09 PM EDT
[#12]
Current production? Cummins ISB
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Posted: 2/11/2021 2:39:43 PM EDT
[#13]
Cummins 6BT CPL 2175
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Posted: 2/11/2021 2:43:12 PM EDT
[#14]
Cummins.
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Posted: 2/11/2021 2:43:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Old VW?? yep. the first two generations of TDI. after 05 they turned to poop. they're slow as hell, but a little maintenance and they just keep running, like little industrial generator motors. |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 2:43:46 PM EDT
[#16]
I like C15’s.
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Posted: 2/11/2021 2:47:04 PM EDT
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The two that immediately come to mind are the Cummins 5.9L and the Powerstroke 7.3L.
After that, it's all a crapshoot because they're "emissions" engines and most of their respective problems are related to the emissions equipment, not the engines themselves. If I was buying a brand new diesel pickup, I'd lean towards the Ford, but the Cummins in the RAM is nice, too. |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 2:55:51 PM EDT
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Cat engines.
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Posted: 2/11/2021 2:56:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: under current production? impossible to say. none of them have been around long enough to know. historically. this little motor. https://cdn.drivingline.com/media/2323598/bosch-ve-injection-pump-volkswagen-alh-diesel.jpg I see these things with 300k plus miles, all the damn time. weekly. I have one in the shop now getting a window regulator. ohhhhhh TDI.. 2005 jetta TDI BEW engine, 45 mpg, 50 on the Hwy in 5th gear running 2300 rpms. 250,000 miles +, and all maintenace done. just needed a stupid EGR :( damn smog.. LOVE those I hear the Golfs could do better in MPG. edit: as stated below - ALH > BEW BEW's had direct inject, each injector big $$. ALH, you could replace all injectors for 200 bucks. Other poor design was the hose clamp connectors to the turbo. Biggest POS clamp design ever. |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 3:10:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ohhhhhh TDI.. 2005 jetta TDI BEW engine, 45 mpg, 50 on the Hwy in 5th gear running 2300 rpms. 250,000 miles, and all maintenace done. just needed a stupid EGR :( damn smog.. LOVE those I hear the Golfs could do better in MPG. ALH was better... BEW wasn't too bad but those EGR coolers were terrible, and the valve covers warp and leak oil. the BRM was fucking horrible. worn cam, egr cooler failure, turbo failure by one of many different ways. at least they were easy to work on. |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 3:16:05 PM EDT
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John Deere 6.6L found in the 4020s.
CAT C15 6NZ. Either will make 5.9 Cummins look unreliable. |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 3:17:06 PM EDT
[#22]
Mercedes diesels run forever with good maintenance.
As mentioned, Ford & Cummins do well on the pick-up level. Not sure where a Volvo diesel might be found in something but they're known for longevity. Detroit Diesels used to be swapped in to GMC trucks & did well as they're two-strokes, turbo'd AND supercharged (in some models). I don't think they were ever OEM issue in pick-ups though. My .o2 |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 3:29:20 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: John Deere 6.6L found in the 4020s. CAT C15 6NZ. Either will make 5.9 Cummins look unreliable. |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 3:33:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: John Deere 6.6L found in the 4020s. CAT C15 6NZ. Either will make 5.9 Cummins look unreliable. Can't even think of what the last engine repair was on the farm's 4020. Or the transmission. Or anything else for that matter. Well, there was the leaking fuel gasket for the filter, but I won't hold it against the old JD. |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 3:37:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: International Harvester Not even close. The 6.0 Powerstroke and all subsequent Navistar "Maxxforce" engines are a crime against humanity. |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 3:38:34 PM EDT
[#26]
Yanmar
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Posted: 2/11/2021 3:40:31 PM EDT
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1HZ is still being made AFAIK
you won't get there fast but you'll get there... 
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Posted: 2/11/2021 3:40:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Truth. Can't even think of what the last engine repair was on the farm's 4020. Or the transmission. Or anything else for that matter. Well, there was the leaking fuel gasket for the filter, but I won't hold it against the old JD. 4020s were the worst financial tractor for John Deere. So over built and reliable they never had to sell parts. The iron horse series. 4240, 4440, 4450, etc. Are also up there. The 7.6L Deere engine was bomb proof. |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 3:41:35 PM EDT
[#29]
6.2 / 6.5 Detroit Diesel found in mid 80s CUCVs and HMMWVs seem pretty robust. I've also heard good things about the 4BT and 6BT engines.
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Posted: 2/11/2021 4:08:50 PM EDT
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I would vote for the old non turbo vw in the rabbit. I had a 5.9 12 valve, lots of miles and repairs.
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Posted: 2/11/2021 4:21:08 PM EDT
[#31]
B model 4 1/4 CAT.
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Posted: 2/11/2021 4:51:56 PM EDT
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EMD 645
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Posted: 2/11/2021 4:58:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cat engines. This, no light duty pickup/car engine will ever come close to the big rig engines...only thing that might out do the big rigs would be the diesels running the generators in trains...Cat/Detroit/IH all put the light duty shit to shame... |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 5:00:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 6.2 / 6.5 Detroit Diesel found in mid 80s CUCVs and HMMWVs seem pretty robust. I've also heard good things about the 4BT and 6BT engines. Those weren’t Detroit’s they were GM engines. They broke cranks and mains for the power they made. The 6.5’s ate pumps. The military version of that engine was a 6.7 a 6.2 with a stroked crank in it. The military 6.7 had a straight mechanical pump in it. |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 5:01:43 PM EDT
[#35]
Detroit Series 60?
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Posted: 2/11/2021 5:02:09 PM EDT
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VW 1.9l ALH
5.9 cummins Inline MB engines before the V-6 OM642 |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 5:03:59 PM EDT
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The PACCAR MX13 in the '14 Peterbilt I recently moved out of was pretty good. 700k miles and it never used a drop of oil or coolant. Only issues I ever had were the usual electric gremlins with sensors and such. Never even had to do a parked regen. Ever.
As for light trucks? The pre-emission 5.9 Cummins was the high water mark of diesels. The gutless GM 6.2 was pretty stout as well. I would buy any of Big Three diesels today (and I did- 6.7 Powerstroke) with the understanding that I might have some issues, but I could improve my odds with obsessive preventative maintenance. Mercedes diesels were legendary back in the day. |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 5:05:30 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 6.2 / 6.5 Detroit Diesel found in mid 80s CUCVs and HMMWVs seem pretty robust. I've also heard good things about the 4BT and 6BT engines. 6.2 and 6.5 are crap and severely underpowered. |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 5:16:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryHa cool! I'm putting one in a Wrangler LJ right now. |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 5:23:09 PM EDT
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Some guy I surf fish with has an isuzu diesel he transplanted out of a 1980's Trooper into his old wrangler, damm thing has close to 500k miles in it & it won't die, just keeps chugging away.
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Posted: 2/11/2021 5:34:28 PM EDT
[#41]
GM 350 Diesel.
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Posted: 2/11/2021 5:37:05 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Typically the Cummins engine will last longer than the shitbox it's installed in. That's not saying much though. Buddy of mine just traded off a '19 Ram 3500 diesel because it was in the shop non-stop with emissions issues. It was in limp mode or on a rollback as much as it wasn't. ALL new diesels are garbage. |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 5:39:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: B model 4 1/4 CAT. Hell yes. I had one in an '85 359 with 3.55s and a 15-over. I should have kept it around just to have a spare vehicle while my new shit was in the shop.
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Posted: 2/11/2021 5:40:54 PM EDT
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cummins.
get rid of the emissions shit and it will chug along forever. |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 5:41:46 PM EDT
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Detroit Diesel 671.
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Posted: 2/11/2021 5:43:30 PM EDT
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CAT.
And old John Deeres. Modern Deere marine engines are pretty good too. |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 5:43:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Kubota! I'd say you mean in vehicles though. They've been swapped into various vehicles, ranging from two wheels to four wheels. |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 5:44:37 PM EDT
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EMD locomotive engine
 EMD V20-710 Start-up and rated load. The original video! |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 5:47:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those weren’t Detroit’s they were GM engines. They broke cranks and mains for the power they made. The 6.5’s ate pumps. The military version of that engine was a 6.7 a 6.2 with a stroked crank in it. The military 6.7 had a straight mechanical pump in it. Uhh....Every single thing in this post is nonsense. Like all of it. |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 5:47:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ALH was better... BEW wasn't too bad but those EGR coolers were terrible, and the valve covers warp and leak oil. the BRM was fucking horrible. worn cam, egr cooler failure, turbo failure by one of many different ways. at least they were easy to work on. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: ohhhhhh TDI.. 2005 jetta TDI BEW engine, 45 mpg, 50 on the Hwy in 5th gear running 2300 rpms. 250,000 miles, and all maintenace done. just needed a stupid EGR :( damn smog.. LOVE those I hear the Golfs could do better in MPG. ALH was better... BEW wasn't too bad but those EGR coolers were terrible, and the valve covers warp and leak oil. the BRM was fucking horrible. worn cam, egr cooler failure, turbo failure by one of many different ways. at least they were easy to work on. What years and models should I be looking for, if I was thinking about buying a used car, pulling the ALH engine out to put in something else, then either parting the car out or selling it to a salvage yard? My experience is limited to the 1.6 normally aspirated diesels used in the Rabbits and Jettas in the 1980s. |
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