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Posted: 8/1/2018 5:59:41 AM EST
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Fair enough. Crazy how things work when you can actually speak with one another and recognize you might not agree on EVERYTHING. I ain't gonna tell you I am happy with Trump on guns. But I am not surprised. I really wanted to see HPA get passed. I am more pissed at congress. We need to raise holy hell about this new tweet. This new Tweet is Trump A-B testing and and right this very minute Brad Parscale is gauging the the response. This is a good chance to push Trump back on point concerning gun rights. "I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun," he wrote in his 2000 book, The America We Deserve. |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 6:10:14 AM EST
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Fair enough. Crazy how things work when you can actually speak with one another and recognize you might not agree on EVERYTHING. I ain't gonna tell you I am happy with Trump on guns. But I am not surprised. I really wanted to see HPA get passed. I am more pissed at congress. We need to raise holy hell about this new tweet. This new Tweet is Trump A-B testing and and right this very minute Brad Parscale is gauging the the response. This is a good chance to push Trump back on point concerning gun rights. "I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun," he wrote in his 2000 book, The America We Deserve. 
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Posted: 8/1/2018 6:37:08 AM EST
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Its so funny Hugh jumped in this thread AFTER the white house said they weren't going to do anything.
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Posted: 8/1/2018 6:52:03 AM EST
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You guys can bicker all you want, but this time we are dealing with a president that is somewhat malleable to these issues. He is trying to please the greatest number of Americans, we need to make our voice herd either way you feel on the matter.
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:08:44 AM EST
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Of course it doesn't make sense to a fucking life-long Democrat billionaire from NYC that has #NYValues. BETACuck.  Further, you have no dog in this fight. Your faux outrage is little more than gay squealing. Perhaps if you made hourly posts about how much of an idiotic stink-faggot your premier is up there in cuckville instead of whining that your preferred alcoholic be in charge of us here, you might be able to get Canada changed for the better. Now I dont expect much out of you Canadians, you've been taking the dick so long you only jump a little when it goes in, and rarely complain about the taste, so your next leader will be just as pants on head retarded. |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:10:51 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're Canadian. The very definition of cuck. You don't even understand the differences between liberals and conservatives here, so it is extraordinary that you of all people continuously post this. Further, you have no dog in this fight. Your faux outrage is little more than gay squealing. Perhaps if you made hourly posts about how much of an idiotic stink-faggot your premier is up there in cuckville instead of whining that your preferred alcoholic be in charge of us here, you might be able to get Canada changed for the better. Now I dont expect much out of you Canadians, you've been taking the dick so long you only jump a little when it goes in, and rarely complain about the taste, so your next leader will be just as pants on head retarded.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:13:21 AM EST
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Fair enough. Crazy how things work when you can actually speak with one another and recognize you might not agree on EVERYTHING. I ain't gonna tell you I am happy with Trump on guns. But I am not surprised. I really wanted to see HPA get passed. I am more pissed at congress. We need to raise holy hell about this new tweet. This new Tweet is Trump A-B testing and and right this very minute Brad Parscale is gauging the the response. This is a good chance to push Trump back on point concerning gun rights. He didn't go on TV and sit next to Feinstein and PUSH for gun laws. |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:14:40 AM EST
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Fair enough. Crazy how things work when you can actually speak with one another and recognize you might not agree on EVERYTHING. I ain't gonna tell you I am happy with Trump on guns. But I am not surprised. I really wanted to see HPA get passed. I am more pissed at congress. We need to raise holy hell about this new tweet. This new Tweet is Trump A-B testing and and right this very minute Brad Parscale is gauging the the response. This is a good chance to push Trump back on point concerning gun rights. |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:16:02 AM EST
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You stated you voted for Obama a while back. That indicates your stance was "WAY OTHERWISE". There is absolutely no way you can be rabidly pro gun and vote for Obama. You are trying to make people believe 2 + 2 = 5. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: But.... the shall not be infringed part of this isn’t clear and could use some additional legislation to clear it up. LMAO A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed Either you believe in infringement or you don't. I assume you to be an absolutionist and therefore any restriction to be the sign of an "anti-gunner" Your support for Barrack Obama and Hillary Clinton notwithstanding for the purposes of this discussion. You will not find ANYWHERE where my stance was otherwise. Feel free to look through my posts and while your at it please look for comments supporting Hillary as well. I’m sure that if we look back through your posts we will find more than a few that are contrarian to your present stance. Just one “shall not be infringed” or “Molon Labe” and your position becomes less defendable and a whole lot more obtuse. And since your so obsessed with this arming children gotcha. My minor child is already listed as a member of my trust which contains several machine guns and other class three fun. But I guess I’m a little bit of a hypocrite because I didn’t add her till she was about two. One the plus side I didn’t wait for the socialist MG handout to arm my preschooler.I know that you just think I’m a leftist troll but that’s just because your so blinded by partisan BS that you either can’t or won’t see that not everyone falls neatly into one or the other neat tidy little groups that your mindset thinks that everyone fits in. In your world everything is black and white but in reality it’s 95% grey zone. That indicates your stance was "WAY OTHERWISE". There is absolutely no way you can be rabidly pro gun and vote for Obama. You are trying to make people believe 2 + 2 = 5. Your assertion that a vote for Obama was a vote for gun regulation but in reality he did NOTHING but play lip service to it. Well except he removed the ban on concealed carry in federal parks. What a gun grabber. Then along comes this champion of freeedom Mr Trump and you vote for him because you support the 2A and now here we are discussing the legality of printed gun blueprints, re-examining bumpstocks and trying to justify praising state lawmakers for raising the bar on gun ownership. But this guy is a staunch conservative who believes in gun rights. We have gotten to the point that this shit is comical. He blows the dog whistle and his base starts howling and barking. He will be the dumbest person to ever hold the office elected by the dumbest electorate in history. I would love to see Trump supporters try and support his policies without saying Obama or Hillary. Never been done before.... |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:18:24 AM EST
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Said in an election year debate to shut up dems. He didn't go on TV and sit next to Feinstein and PUSH for gun laws. and it worked. what did Feinstein get? Be specific now, bob. Also, The Trump administration supports an existing law they say makes it illegal to own or make homemade plastic guns, a White House official said Tuesday, coming hours after President Donald Trump tweeted that the availability of the firearms "doesn't seem to make much sense!" "The President is committed to the safety and security of all Americans; he considers this his highest responsibility," deputy press secretary Hogan Gidley said to reporters aboard Air Force One. "In the United States, it's currently illegal to own or make a wholly plastic gun of any kind, including those made on a 3D printer." The administration supports the three-decade-old law, Gidley said, "and will continue to look at all options available to us to do what is necessary to protect Americans while also supporting the First and Second amendments." In 24 hours Trump looked at an issue, and determined nothing needed to be done. And you missed all the drama. Seriously, you are posting in an expired thread. For a paranoid loner, how could you have missed it? |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:19:51 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Once again you are trying to paint a dichotomy that isn’t real. Your assertion that a vote for Obama was a vote for gun regulation but in reality he did NOTHING but play lip service to it. Well except he removed the ban on concealed carry in federal parks. What a gun grabber. Then along comes this champion of freeedom Mr Trump and you vote for him because you support the 2A and now here we are discussing the legality of printed gun blueprints, re-examining bumpstocks and trying to justify praising state lawmakers for raising the bar on gun ownership. But this guy is a staunch conservative who believes in gun rights. We have gotten to the point that this shit is comical. He blows the dog whistle and his base starts howling and barking. He will be the dumbest person to ever hold the office elected by the dumbest electorate in history. I would love to see Trump supporters try and support his policies without saying Obama or Hillary. Never been done before.... |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:21:54 AM EST
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To shut up dems. and it worked. what did Feinstein get? Be specific now, bob. Also, The Trump administration supports an existing law they say makes it illegal to own or make homemade plastic guns, a White House official said Tuesday, coming hours after President Donald Trump tweeted that the availability of the firearms "doesn't seem to make much sense!" "The President is committed to the safety and security of all Americans; he considers this his highest responsibility," deputy press secretary Hogan Gidley said to reporters aboard Air Force One. "In the United States, it's currently illegal to own or make a wholly plastic gun of any kind, including those made on a 3D printer." The administration supports the three-decade-old law, Gidley said, "and will continue to look at all options available to us to do what is necessary to protect Americans while also supporting the First and Second amendments." In 24 hours Trump looked at an issue, and determined nothing needed to be done. And you missed all the drama. Seriously, you are posting in an expired thread. For a paranoid loner, how could you have missed it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Said in an election year debate to shut up dems. He didn't go on TV and sit next to Feinstein and PUSH for gun laws. and it worked. what did Feinstein get? Be specific now, bob. Also, The Trump administration supports an existing law they say makes it illegal to own or make homemade plastic guns, a White House official said Tuesday, coming hours after President Donald Trump tweeted that the availability of the firearms "doesn't seem to make much sense!" "The President is committed to the safety and security of all Americans; he considers this his highest responsibility," deputy press secretary Hogan Gidley said to reporters aboard Air Force One. "In the United States, it's currently illegal to own or make a wholly plastic gun of any kind, including those made on a 3D printer." The administration supports the three-decade-old law, Gidley said, "and will continue to look at all options available to us to do what is necessary to protect Americans while also supporting the First and Second amendments." In 24 hours Trump looked at an issue, and determined nothing needed to be done. And you missed all the drama. Seriously, you are posting in an expired thread. For a paranoid loner, how could you have missed it? We're still waiting to see which way the ATF goes now that the comment period is over after Trump ordered them to ban bumpstocks. What bullshit beta cuck shit were you saying again? |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:23:17 AM EST
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Obama: The Pro-Gun president. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Once again you are trying to paint a dichotomy that isn’t real. Your assertion that a vote for Obama was a vote for gun regulation but in reality he did NOTHING but play lip service to it. Well except he removed the ban on concealed carry in federal parks. What a gun grabber. Then along comes this champion of freeedom Mr Trump and you vote for him because you support the 2A and now here we are discussing the legality of printed gun blueprints, re-examining bumpstocks and trying to justify praising state lawmakers for raising the bar on gun ownership. But this guy is a staunch conservative who believes in gun rights. We have gotten to the point that this shit is comical. He blows the dog whistle and his base starts howling and barking. He will be the dumbest person to ever hold the office elected by the dumbest electorate in history. I would love to see Trump supporters try and support his policies without saying Obama or Hillary. Never been done before.... I don't trust Trump either... |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:23:40 AM EST
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The dems got the expanded background check Obama couldn't pass after Sandy Hook, and Trump encouraged the states to pass the shit Florida did. He even called Scott and congratulated him for passing gun control laws. We're still waiting to see which way the ATF goes now that the comment period is over after Trump ordered them to ban bumpstocks. What bullshit beta cuck shit were you saying again? How so? |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:25:38 AM EST
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Trump can't do shit without assaulting the first ammendment.
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:26:08 AM EST
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I know you get a lot of heat, but many of your posts are like pottery to my ears. |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:26:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're Canadian. The very definition of cuck. You don't even understand the differences between liberals and conservatives here, so it is extraordinary that you of all people continuously post this. Further, you have no dog in this fight. Your faux outrage is little more than gay squealing. Perhaps if you made hourly posts about how much of an idiotic stink-faggot your premier is up there in cuckville instead of whining that your preferred alcoholic be in charge of us here, you might be able to get Canada changed for the better. Now I dont expect much out of you Canadians, you've been taking the dick so long you only jump a little when it goes in, and rarely complain about the taste, so your next leader will be just as pants on head retarded. |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:27:58 AM EST
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Trump can't do shit without assaulting the first ammendment. |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:28:41 AM EST
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:30:00 AM EST
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Oh yeah, I'd rather have Hillary as our president. 
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Quoted: Do you think she could have put together a group of republican lawmakers and the NRA together to form a group of the willing to re-examine bumpstocks and state minimum age requirements? Or do you think that she would have been cock blocked on party lines?
Oh, I forgot you're a known troll. Carry on. It’s only gun control if the left suggests it. Otherwise it’s just common sense legislation. We always here people on here claim to be a single issue voter, Muh gun rights but at the end of the day they will cave on the 2a and in some cases rabidly support the actual gun grabbers. You guys fucking crack me up. |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:30:42 AM EST
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You're Canadian. The very definition of cuck. You don't even understand the differences between liberals and conservatives here, so it is extraordinary that you of all people continuously post this. Further, you have no dog in this fight. Your faux outrage is little more than gay squealing. Perhaps if you made hourly posts about how much of an idiotic stink-faggot your premier is up there in cuckville instead of whining that your preferred alcoholic be in charge of us here, you might be able to get Canada changed for the better. Now I dont expect much out of you Canadians, you've been taking the dick so long you only jump a little when it goes in, and rarely complain about the taste, so your next leader will be just as pants on head retarded. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Of course it doesn't make sense to a fucking life-long Democrat billionaire from NYC that has #NYValues. BETACuck. Further, you have no dog in this fight. Your faux outrage is little more than gay squealing. Perhaps if you made hourly posts about how much of an idiotic stink-faggot your premier is up there in cuckville instead of whining that your preferred alcoholic be in charge of us here, you might be able to get Canada changed for the better. Now I dont expect much out of you Canadians, you've been taking the dick so long you only jump a little when it goes in, and rarely complain about the taste, so your next leader will be just as pants on head retarded. |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:31:16 AM EST
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“Known Troll” also known as “independent thinker” or “people who have a position not a side”. It’s only gun control if the left suggests it. Otherwise it’s just common sense legislation. We always here people on here claim to be a single issue voter, Muh gun rights but at the end of the day they will cave on the 2a and in some cases rabidly support the actual gun grabbers. You guys fucking crack me up. as a freeloader, no less. You are a troll. |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:32:34 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The cucks are the people that let Donald fuck the Second Amendment. 
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:32:55 AM EST
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Quoted: Once again you are trying to paint a dichotomy that isn’t real. Your assertion that a vote for Obama was a vote for gun regulation but in reality he did NOTHING but play lip service to it. Well except he removed the ban on concealed carry in federal parks. What a gun grabber. Then along comes this champion of freeedom Mr Trump and you vote for him because you support the 2A and now here we are discussing the legality of printed gun blueprints, re-examining bumpstocks and trying to justify praising state lawmakers for raising the bar on gun ownership. But this guy is a staunch conservative who believes in gun rights. We have gotten to the point that this shit is comical. He blows the dog whistle and his base starts howling and barking. He will be the dumbest person to ever hold the office elected by the dumbest electorate in history. I would love to see Trump supporters try and support his policies without saying Obama or Hillary. Never been done before.... He did say he was going to make stuff happen. 
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:35:04 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know it sounds crazy but it appears that he will do less to limit 2a rights in his 8 years than Mr Trump in half a term. He did say he was going to make stuff happen. |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:38:11 AM EST
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When something actually happens about it, I'll care. Same old same old. You'd think people would have this figured out by now. Also, plastic guns aren't being sold. Plans to make homemade guns are. Homemade guns are completely legal as long as the maker isn't prohibited... and the plans themselves are protected by the First Amendment. Seems like he get out in front of an issue and “does something “ about it. Then....nothing. I don’t think that he is a gun guy but I’m pretty sure he is pro-2a and likes poking libs in the eyes. I’m never fully sure about him, but it usually plays out well. Between the first amendment and the current laws there’s it much that can come of this. I think he knows this. It’s illegal to make a plastic gun already. Have to add metal to it somewhere. Anybody that makes an “illegal” gun is already breaking the law. Not any different from having a perfectly legal shotgun...and a hacksaw |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:39:31 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Weird. Amnesty, bumpstocks... Seems like he get out in front of an issue and “does something “ about it. Then....nothing. I don’t think that he is a gun guy but I’m pretty sure he is pro-2a and likes poking libs in the eyes. I’m never fully sure about him, but it usually plays out well. Between the first amendment and the current laws there’s it much that can come of this. I think he knows this. It’s illegal to make a plastic gun already. Have to add metal to it somewhere. Anybody that makes an “illegal” gun is already breaking the law. Not any different from having a perfectly legal shotgun...and a hacksaw |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:39:53 AM EST
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The cucks are the people that let Donald fuck the Second Amendment. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Of course it doesn't make sense to a fucking life-long Democrat billionaire from NYC that has #NYValues. BETACuck. Further, you have no dog in this fight. Your faux outrage is little more than gay squealing. Perhaps if you made hourly posts about how much of an idiotic stink-faggot your premier is up there in cuckville instead of whining that your preferred alcoholic be in charge of us here, you might be able to get Canada changed for the better. Now I dont expect much out of you Canadians, you've been taking the dick so long you only jump a little when it goes in, and rarely complain about the taste, so your next leader will be just as pants on head retarded. Which specific law has Trump made or changed that was detrimental to guns? Further, considering that this is both a 2nd Amendment *AND* a 1st Amendment issue, what, specifically, can he, or will he do to change the law? Lastly, in your opinion, what specifically could he do to make you happy in regards to this issue? |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:43:24 AM EST
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Lastly, in your opinion, what specifically could he do to make you happy in regards to this issue? That and a Top_Secret sandwich with comey on top and Mueller underneath. As for Trump Get rid of the 91 Import EO, reinstate trusts w/o fingerprints for all, and let 7n6 back in would be nice. a MG amnesty in the guise of registering bump stocks (as the NRA proposed) would be pretty nifty. He owes gun owners a solid. |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:44:27 AM EST
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Quoted: I know it sounds crazy but it appears that he will do less to limit 2a rights in his 8 years than Mr Trump in half a term. He did say he was going to make stuff happen. Still waiting for a ruling. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/15/gun-control-measures-proposed-by-trump-lawmakers-after-florida-school-shooting.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/trump-congratulates-florida-for-very-good-gun-legislation/2018/03/08/de8e3a32-22f1-11e8-946c-9420060cb7bd_video.html?utm_term=.ce533af1f2b1 |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:45:16 AM EST
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You voted for Obama and Hillary and want to camp out on a gun board. as a freeloader, no less. You are a troll. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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“Known Troll” also known as “independent thinker” or “people who have a position not a side”. It’s only gun control if the left suggests it. Otherwise it’s just common sense legislation. We always here people on here claim to be a single issue voter, Muh gun rights but at the end of the day they will cave on the 2a and in some cases rabidly support the actual gun grabbers. You guys fucking crack me up. as a freeloader, no less. You are a troll. You are a minor low power troll dude. You have no point so you just scream Obama and Hillary and why you no pay to be on site. People like you are how we have ended up in this place in American politics. Low info voters who are willing to go down with the ship to prove their loyalty to the party. Face it your president doesn’t give a single shit about your gun rights all he cares about is being in power and blasting out barely litterate tweets like he is some B list pop star. Your guy is fabulous. [rolls eyes] |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:51:57 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No I voted for O on his first term and haven’t voted in a national election since... You are a minor low power troll dude. You have no point so you just scream Obama and Hillary and why you no pay to be on site. People like you are how we have ended up in this place in American politics. Low info voters who are willing to go down with the ship to prove their loyalty to the party. Face it your president doesn’t give a single shit about your gun rights all he cares about is being in power and blasting out barely litterate tweets like he is some B list pop star. Your guy is fabulous. [rolls eyes]  You voted for this guy and lecturing me on trolling?
Barack Obama on Gun Control • Ok for states & cities to determine local gun laws. (Apr 2008) • FactCheck: Yes, Obama endorsed Illinois handgun ban. (Apr 2008) • Respect 2nd Amendment, but local gun bans ok. (Feb 2008) • Provide some common-sense enforcement on gun licensing. (Jan 2008) • 2000: cosponsored bill to limit purchases to 1 gun per month. (Oct 2007) • Concealed carry OK for retired police officers. (Aug 2007) • Stop unscrupulous gun dealers dumping guns in cities. (Jul 2007) • Keep guns out of inner cities--but also problem of morality. (Oct 2006) • Bush erred in failing to renew assault weapons ban. (Oct 2004) • Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions. (Jul 1998) • Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. (Jul 2005) So what was it about Obama that attracted you to him in 2008? Since you aren't a "free loading troll", lets delve into your free thinking spirit. As for Trump, I don't live in Florida. Doesn't bother me a bit what Rick Scott and the legislatures do there. Scott supported Trump and Trump has reciprocated support. That is what he does. You do know you are bashing Trump in a thread where Trump hasn't done anything and isn't going to do anything. You think your boy Obama went to the NRA for advice on what to do about guns? |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:53:07 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He owes gun owners a solid. |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:54:23 AM EST
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I am pissed, sure as running his shitter got bans on gun parts in Florida, but to be honest I need to focus a but had he lost the election, I have little doubt Clinton would be so mild. So far Trump isn't campaigning on gun control and making a platform of it. If he does then I will absolutely do everything I can to see him lose if he is Primaried.
I can bitch and moan and be a butthurt baby about my guys not winning (Paul or Cruz were mu guys) but fact is, they didn't win the Primary. It was a choice between Hillary or Trump. My conscience could not allow a Hillary POTUS. I don't know how you never Trumps were fine with allowing her to stack the court. My guys lost, I grew up and got over it. I will criticize Trump when deserved unlike some of his cult members but I am also living in reality where no matter how much I bitch and whine, nothing changes the fact that my guys didn't win and I have to admit Trump is nowhere the Liberal I was worried that he is. |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:56:00 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You voted for this guy and lecturing me on trolling?
Barack Obama on Gun Control • Ok for states & cities to determine local gun laws. (Apr 2008) • FactCheck: Yes, Obama endorsed Illinois handgun ban. (Apr 2008) • Respect 2nd Amendment, but local gun bans ok. (Feb 2008) • Provide some common-sense enforcement on gun licensing. (Jan 2008) • 2000: cosponsored bill to limit purchases to 1 gun per month. (Oct 2007) • Concealed carry OK for retired police officers. (Aug 2007) • Stop unscrupulous gun dealers dumping guns in cities. (Jul 2007) • Keep guns out of inner cities--but also problem of morality. (Oct 2006) • Bush erred in failing to renew assault weapons ban. (Oct 2004) • Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions. (Jul 1998) • Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. (Jul 2005) So what was it about Obama that attracted you to him in 2008? Since you aren't a "free loading troll", lets delve into your free thinking spirit. As for Trump, I don't live in Florida. Doesn't bother me a bit what Rick Scott and the legislatures do there. Scott supported Trump and Trump has reciprocated support. That is what he does. You do know you are bashing Trump in a thread where Trump hasn't done anything and isn't going to do anything. You think your boy Obama went to the NRA for advice on what to do about guns? Nice position. Funny how close Trunp and Obama are on their 2A stance isn’t it ?!?? |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:57:31 AM EST
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https://culberson.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=398944 Still waiting for a ruling. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/15/gun-control-measures-proposed-by-trump-lawmakers-after-florida-school-shooting.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/trump-congratulates-florida-for-very-good-gun-legislation/2018/03/08/de8e3a32-22f1-11e8-946c-9420060cb7bd_video.html?utm_term=.ce533af1f2b1
1. Earlier this year, the Fix NICS Act of 2017, a bipartisan piece of legislation that requires federal and state authorities to comply with existing law and accurately report relevant criminal history records to NICS, passed in the House of Representatives. So you support arming criminals. Good to know. 2. NRA's position. If, after Vegas shooting, you thought ANYONE was going to come out and say "bump stocks are awesome" you are fucking high. BTW, still nothing has happened. Go buy a bump stock. Nothing stopping you. 3. So nothing other than crushing Feinstein's dreams. “To no one’s surprise, the president’s words of support for stronger gun safety laws proved to be hollow,” Senator Dianne Feinstein, Democrat of California, said. “Responding to the murder of 17 students and educators by endorsing the gun lobby’s platform is a shameful abdication of the president’s responsibility to lead. Shame on you, Mr. President.” I don't know who is more disappointed, diane feinstein or the I_Wish_Hillary_Won_So_I_would_be_right crowd in Trump not doing anything. 4. Florida is florida's problem. Not mine. Because that shit was happening after Broward County no matter what Trump said or did. |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 7:59:18 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t always care about gun rights but when I do they have to directly affect me. Nice position. Funny how close Trunp and Obama are on their 2A stance isn’t it ?!?? Obama wanted to be dictator. You wanted him to be dictator. Think of Sotomayor and Kagan voting on gun rights (wait, don't have to think, we already know). Thats the judges your boy put in charge of protecting gun rights. |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 8:00:05 AM EST
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Yeah, I'm not touching that shit. Obama would have banned handguns and all had he had the chance. I don't trust Trump either... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 8/1/2018 8:03:05 AM EST
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1. Earlier this year, the Fix NICS Act of 2017, a bipartisan piece of legislation that requires federal and state authorities to comply with existing law and accurately report relevant criminal history records to NICS, passed in the House of Representatives. So you support arming criminals. Good to know. 2. NRA's position. If, after Vegas shooting, you thought ANYONE was going to come out and say "bump stocks are awesome" you are fucking high. BTW, still nothing has happened. Go buy a bump stock. Nothing stopping you. 3. So nothing other than crushing Feinstein's dreams. “To no one’s surprise, the president’s words of support for stronger gun safety laws proved to be hollow,” Senator Dianne Feinstein, Democrat of California, said. “Responding to the murder of 17 students and educators by endorsing the gun lobby’s platform is a shameful abdication of the president’s responsibility to lead. Shame on you, Mr. President.” I don't know who is more disappointed, diane feinstein or the I_Wish_Hillary_Won_So_I_would_be_right crowd in Trump not doing anything. 4. Florida is florida's problem. Not mine. Because that shit was happening after Broward County no matter what Trump said or did. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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https://culberson.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=398944 Still waiting for a ruling. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/15/gun-control-measures-proposed-by-trump-lawmakers-after-florida-school-shooting.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/trump-congratulates-florida-for-very-good-gun-legislation/2018/03/08/de8e3a32-22f1-11e8-946c-9420060cb7bd_video.html?utm_term=.ce533af1f2b1
1. Earlier this year, the Fix NICS Act of 2017, a bipartisan piece of legislation that requires federal and state authorities to comply with existing law and accurately report relevant criminal history records to NICS, passed in the House of Representatives. So you support arming criminals. Good to know. 2. NRA's position. If, after Vegas shooting, you thought ANYONE was going to come out and say "bump stocks are awesome" you are fucking high. BTW, still nothing has happened. Go buy a bump stock. Nothing stopping you. 3. So nothing other than crushing Feinstein's dreams. “To no one’s surprise, the president’s words of support for stronger gun safety laws proved to be hollow,” Senator Dianne Feinstein, Democrat of California, said. “Responding to the murder of 17 students and educators by endorsing the gun lobby’s platform is a shameful abdication of the president’s responsibility to lead. Shame on you, Mr. President.” I don't know who is more disappointed, diane feinstein or the I_Wish_Hillary_Won_So_I_would_be_right crowd in Trump not doing anything. 4. Florida is florida's problem. Not mine. Because that shit was happening after Broward County no matter what Trump said or did. |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 8:04:00 AM EST
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target target is as american as shepards pie and cricket.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well keep studying those Meet The Press polls, save up some money, and then someday maybe you can travel here on vacation and explain to us how things work in the US.  I've probably step foot in more states than you have. ....Now, that being said, you are absolutely right in that I have totally and completely misunderstood and misjudged Americans -- particularly American conservatives. I never thought to account for quasi-conservative 'conservatives', or barely-conservative 'conservatives'. I never honestly thought I'd see the day when pro-gun American 'conservatives' would champion a NYC billionaire to be their 'leader', and then defend his 'I like taking the guns early' bullshit. I did NOT account for any of that -- you're absolutely right. now that changes everything. Clearly I underestimated just how almost American you kinda are. I guess that means the Meet the Press polls you cited probably carry a bit more weight. I'm starting to think you'll be right, and Ted Cruz will win the 2016 Republican Primary. |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 8:04:43 AM EST
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Posted: 8/1/2018 8:07:25 AM EST
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No I voted for O on his first term and haven’t voted in a national election since... You are a minor low power troll dude. You have no point so you just scream Obama and Hillary and why you no pay to be on site. People like you are how we have ended up in this place in American politics. Low info voters who are willing to go down with the ship to prove their loyalty to the party. Face it your president doesn’t give a single shit about your gun rights all he cares about is being in power and blasting out barely litterate tweets like he is some B list pop star. Your guy is fabulous. [rolls eyes] Quote HistoryQuoted:
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“Known Troll” also known as “independent thinker” or “people who have a position not a side”. It’s only gun control if the left suggests it. Otherwise it’s just common sense legislation. We always here people on here claim to be a single issue voter, Muh gun rights but at the end of the day they will cave on the 2a and in some cases rabidly support the actual gun grabbers. You guys fucking crack me up. as a freeloader, no less. You are a troll. You are a minor low power troll dude. You have no point so you just scream Obama and Hillary and why you no pay to be on site. People like you are how we have ended up in this place in American politics. Low info voters who are willing to go down with the ship to prove their loyalty to the party. Face it your president doesn’t give a single shit about your gun rights all he cares about is being in power and blasting out barely litterate tweets like he is some B list pop star. Your guy is fabulous. [rolls eyes] He is definitely a beta and making any excuse for trump's gun control, but I doubt he voted for Obongo. I'm glad you've seen the light though. Glad to say my first vote was for GHWB in 1988. |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 8:07:25 AM EST
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For Top_Secret, Trump resigning and appointing Hillary as VP to take over is the only thing to make him happy. That and a Top_Secret sandwich with comey on top and Mueller underneath. As for Trump Get rid of the 91 Import EO, reinstate trusts w/o fingerprints for all, and let 7n6 back in would be nice. a MG amnesty in the guise of registering bump stocks (as the NRA proposed) would be pretty nifty. He owes gun owners a solid. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lastly, in your opinion, what specifically could he do to make you happy in regards to this issue? That and a Top_Secret sandwich with comey on top and Mueller underneath. As for Trump Get rid of the 91 Import EO, reinstate trusts w/o fingerprints for all, and let 7n6 back in would be nice. a MG amnesty in the guise of registering bump stocks (as the NRA proposed) would be pretty nifty. He owes gun owners a solid. |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 8:12:57 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're Canadian. The very definition of cuck. You don't even understand the differences between liberals and conservatives here, so it is extraordinary that you of all people continuously post this. Further, you have no dog in this fight. Your faux outrage is little more than gay squealing. Perhaps if you made hourly posts about how much of an idiotic stink-faggot your premier is up there in cuckville instead of whining that your preferred alcoholic be in charge of us here, you might be able to get Canada changed for the better. Now I dont expect much out of you Canadians, you've been taking the dick so long you only jump a little when it goes in, and rarely complain about the taste, so your next leader will be just as pants on head retarded. |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 8:13:06 AM EST
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I am pissed, sure as running his shitter got bans on gun parts in Florida, but to be honest I need to focus a but had he lost the election, I have little doubt Clinton would be so mild. So far Trump isn't campaigning on gun control and making a platform of it. If he does then I will absolutely do everything I can to see him lose if he is Primaried. I can bitch and moan and be a butthurt baby about my guys not winning (Paul or Cruz were mu guys) but fact is, they didn't win the Primary. It was a choice between Hillary or Trump. My conscience could not allow a Hillary POTUS. I don't know how you never Trumps were fine with allowing her to stack the court. My guys lost, I grew up and got over it. I will criticize Trump when deserved unlike some of his cult members but I am also living in reality where no matter how much I bitch and whine, nothing changes the fact that my guys didn't win and I have to admit Trump is nowhere the Liberal I was worried that he is. Quote HistoryQuoted:
I am pissed, sure as running his shitter got bans on gun parts in Florida, but to be honest I need to focus a but had he lost the election, I have little doubt Clinton would be so mild. So far Trump isn't campaigning on gun control and making a platform of it. If he does then I will absolutely do everything I can to see him lose if he is Primaried. I can bitch and moan and be a butthurt baby about my guys not winning (Paul or Cruz were mu guys) but fact is, they didn't win the Primary. It was a choice between Hillary or Trump. My conscience could not allow a Hillary POTUS. I don't know how you never Trumps were fine with allowing her to stack the court. My guys lost, I grew up and got over it. I will criticize Trump when deserved unlike some of his cult members but I am also living in reality where no matter how much I bitch and whine, nothing changes the fact that my guys didn't win and I have to admit Trump is nowhere the Liberal I was worried that he is. “If we must have an enemy at the head of government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible.” - Alexander Hamilton |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 8:17:04 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To shut up dems. and it worked. what did Feinstein get? Be specific now, bob. Also, The Trump administration supports an existing law they say makes it illegal to own or make homemade plastic guns, a White House official said Tuesday, coming hours after President Donald Trump tweeted that the availability of the firearms "doesn't seem to make much sense!" "The President is committed to the safety and security of all Americans; he considers this his highest responsibility," deputy press secretary Hogan Gidley said to reporters aboard Air Force One. "In the United States, it's currently illegal to own or make a wholly plastic gun of any kind, including those made on a 3D printer." The administration supports the three-decade-old law, Gidley said, "and will continue to look at all options available to us to do what is necessary to protect Americans while also supporting the First and Second amendments." In 24 hours Trump looked at an issue, and determined nothing needed to be done. And you missed all the drama. Seriously, you are posting in an expired thread. For a paranoid loner, how could you have missed it? Perhaps he should have 'looked at the issue' before tweeting? It says something when his natural, unmitigated, unrehearsed reaction to something 2A always seems to be: "I don't like this. It seems wrong. Maybe Congress will finally do something about (this random 2A issue) for once!" |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 8:18:35 AM EST
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Posted: 8/1/2018 8:22:07 AM EST
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Yeah, with that post you surely did. You're just a damned liberal. On ignore you go. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 8/1/2018 8:22:34 AM EST
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