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Posted: 12/16/2023 5:37:54 PM EDT
Interesting video and article on how males in Ukraine are trying to flee to avoid literally getting snatched into vans by their gov (per videos elsewhere)
NYT Article ‘People Snatchers’: Ukraine’s Recruiters Use Harsh Tactics to Fill Ranks BBC The Ukrainian men fleeing the draft: ‘Not everyone is a warrior’ - BBC World Service Documentaries Another video I came across. Scenes of people being hauled into vans. Report of peoples' bank accounts being frozen if they don't report for service. Pending mobilization bill. Ukraine divided over controversial mobilisation bill • FRANCE 24 English Update: Those abroad who don't report for duty will get their assets frozen Ukraine Drafting 500K MORE MEN To Serve In LOSING War Against Russia: Rising |
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They’ll gladly take a handout from their government but the minute you ask them to sign up for service? They flee
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That southern border security bit, ironic given the funding issue
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My previous employer employed quite a few of them and it fucking disgusted me. I asked my boss about it and he said "they had the means to leave the country so they bought their way out and I should feel bad for them because they didn't know if they had a home to go back too!"
Maybe they would have had homes to go back to if they would have stayed and fought for their Slavic shithole instead of being a bunch of cowards and fleeing to America. |
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There were plenty hanging out in Greece, Italy, Spain, and the French mediterranean. News story showed them hanging out at the beach worried about their country.
Oh and plenty of miltary aged Russian males too. Refugees. I did my military service but if Joe Biden was asking or telling me to go I’d probably take a dive too. The Ukes with their home invaded and running, yea you soft ass pyssies. Your grandmas are tougher. |
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lol, the NYT & BBC are literally Russian propaganda...
...rating this thread as troll |
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Ukraine is being invaded. I understand not wanting to fund them, but I don’t understand the hate
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One of the telegram pages said a 15 year old was recently asked to show ID to a military recruiter at a sporting event. Was just joking that Scott Ritter was going to have competition for that age range, from ukrainian recruitment commissars
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If this was our land that was invaded, I would have no problem shooting those fleeing the fight.
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“Not everyone is a warrior.”
They need truck drivers too you pussy. |
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I keep wondering how that youtuber Pavlo from Ukraine hasn't sent to fight yet, he's still there.
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Quoted: First World problems :lol: When they "win" they can change it to Kiev and uncork their tampons over what qualifies as military age. https://unagb.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/child-soldier-in-sierra-leone-pic-ap-88239223.jpg View Quote This kid ‘s alright, trigger finger discipline and the good sense to use the premium FAL, of course that means the higher class inch pattern SLR. |
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Anybody with half a brain can see that the war was lost for Ukraine at the start and the continued fighting is just so Voldamort can keep the billions flowing in. Billions he’ll eventually flee to South America with courtesy of the US taxpayer. I can’t fault anybody for not wanting to be press ganged into dying for no good reason.
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Quoted: He’s being sarcastic, I saw OPs article and similar days ago but I’m more focused on the $ issues View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: He’s being sarcastic, I saw OPs article and similar days ago but I’m more focused on the $ issues Speaking of seeing the topic being one popping up a few days ago, looks like an evergreen topic, here is a video from 2mo ago. One guy who is pro-Ukranian military saying dying for your country is too high a price to pay for having a country The Ukrainians who refuse to fight and are trying to leave the country | DW Analysis |
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I helped hundreds when this first started. I would say 1/3 to 1/2 of each family group had a male that met the criteria to stay and fight. A lot of educated individuals that knew they had a chance in the US and sought asylum.
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Quoted: Anybody with half a brain can see that the war was lost for Ukraine at the start and the continued fighting is just so Voldamort can keep the billions flowing in. Billions he’ll eventually flee to South America with courtesy of the US taxpayer. I can’t fault anybody for not wanting to be press ganged into dying for no good reason. View Quote He's going to retire in Florida. |
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My college room mate is still in Canada. It happens in every war.
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Quoted: Ukraine is being invaded. I understand not wanting to fund them, but I don’t understand the hate View Quote I am routing for the normal everyday Ukrainians, but with the whole Biden kickbacks, the way the CIA helped overthrow their government in '14, the way the "foreign policy elites" have been pushing NATO membership for Ukraine when Russia has said from the start that that was a clear red line for them, as well as the whole Ukraine blackmail pretext to Trumps impeachment....... It's hard to see good guys on either side. I feel horrible for the Ukrainian people. I also feel bad for the young Russian conscripts given no choice but to fight or end up in some gulag. As always it's the people in power on both sides who should be forced to fight this war they started, but an even more certain constant is that they never are the ones to pay the butchers bill. |
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It’s a shitty situation to be sure.
Your choices are to fight for a fagot globalist puppet, fight for Russia or leave and start over. At this point I don’t think I’d be willing to fight for or even with democrats, I don’t consider them to be Americans. Running isn’t a choice though so I guess you just fight whoever gets there first. |
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I know a few Ukrainian guys who came to the US in the past 10-20 years. They generally are happy to have gotten out when they did. They are not chomping at the bit to go back to fight.
They left because they felt there were no good options and thus no future there. |
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The War Machine needs medics, supply techs, automotive mechanics and computer techs too.
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Quoted: Speaking of seeing the topic being one popping up a few days ago, looks like an evergreen topic, here is a video from 2mo ago. One guy who is pro-Ukranian military saying dying for your country is too high a price to pay for having a country https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzzXDDVajyY View Quote Yeah I’ve seen them before, just more so since last month https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-needs-troops-aggressive-military-recruiting-tactics-russia-war-2023-12?amp Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Quoted: Quoted: They’ll gladly take a handout from their government but the minute you ask them to sign up for service? They flee Lol you would fight for Ukraine? Ukraine fighting for its own country is every bit as honorable and likely more so then any war this country has fought for the last century. |
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