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Posted: 6/22/2022 12:23:06 PM EDT
We've learned the importance of ammo and tp forts, but is the hype about food shortages a concern to the average American? It seems like a pretty cheap investment, you can buy cheap and stack real deep today. Is tomorrow a concern?
ETA- looking for some decent 1 or 2 gallons mylar bags. PayPal payment method is a huge plus. I'm avoiding eBay because they suck. ETA 2- My order from USA Emergency Supply arrived within a week of ordering. I ended up ordering some 1 gallon MYLAR bags and 1000cc O2 absorbers. YouTube'd how to do it, than sealed them all up using my wife's hair straightener lol. Stood on a couple afterward to make sure they were sealed well. 100% success! Fyi, I recommend the 1 gallon bags. Figure on 7 pounds of rice per gallon bag, ie 10 1 gallon bags will hold 70# of rice. |
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Why? When in the history of the US was anyone NOT be able to get food?
And you have 100,000 rounds of SS109? OK, now what? |
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A couple pails of wheat, rice, and beans is a good investment. Prices are only going to increase this fall.
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A rice and beans "fort" is never *not* important - but how immediately critical is it? IMO not very.
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Quoted: Quoted: Why? When in the history of the US was anyone NOT be able to get food? And you have 100,000 rounds of SS109? OK, now what? Not sure if serious. He and everyone else saying shit like that are completely serious and completely delusional. |
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Rice is very empty of calories. Beans are much better. But, energy is needed to cool them.
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Quoted: He and everyone else saying shit like that are completely serious and completely delusional. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why? When in the history of the US was anyone NOT be able to get food? And you have 100,000 rounds of SS109? OK, now what? Not sure if serious. He and everyone else saying shit like that are completely serious and completely delusional. And this is who you will be defending your food supply from. Desperate starving neighbors. |
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You'll need plenty of seasoning to go with the Beans and Rice.
Otherwise, talk about bland meals. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Why? When in the history of the US was anyone NOT be able to get food? And you have 100,000 rounds of SS109? OK, now what? Not sure if serious. Not an uncommon mentality. One that hasn't been thought through, nor researched. So, although completely ignorant and short sighted, it is a notion that is probably more popular than not. |
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I don't think the average American knows how to properly cook dried beans.
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a high priority. why wouldn't you buy 90 days of food insurance for your family for 200 bucks?
being prepared is about balance over all aspects of life. if someone has credit card debt i'd rather see them tackle that than go out and spend money of long term food preps. |
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Quoted: Rice is very empty of calories. Beans are much better. But, energy is needed to cool them. View Quote Lol. Half the world lives on rice. And I doubt you've eaten beans for very many meals in a row. When combined with beans it makes a complete protein. OP, include wheat berries, barley, oats, peas, several kinds of beans, corn, flour of corn and wheat, yeast, dry milk, salt, pepper, masa, a grain grinder, a means of cooking if you've no power and you'll have a start. Increase canned goods purchases when at the grocery. Learn pantry rotation and cooking. |
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Yes... And other stuff. Rice will make you feel full and keep you from starving. Ignore the Normalcy bias that comes from people that refuse to see what's right in front of them. Those same people will be screaming for you to give up what you have so they can have something to eat when things get bad.
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Quoted: Not an uncommon mentality. One that hasn't been thought through, nor researched. So, although completely ignorant and short sighted, it is a notion that is probably more popular than not. View Quote Do you guys see us turning in a Venezuela or North Korea anytime soon? Researched? That's why I asked - when in the history of the US was a person not able to procure food for survival? |
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Quoted: Are you dumb ignorant or did you just flunk out of school and not pay attention? Have you ever heard of the Great Depression? View Quote Did anyone actually STARVE during the Depression? When, in the history of the US did people have to rely on SURVIVAL caches for their meals? I lived thru the LA fires, the big earthquake, the riots and all the grocery stores and restaurants stayed open. |
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How do you add flavor to rice and beans? Eaten them when I had to but they don’t taste all that great.
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Quoted: If your stuck with rice and beans only...the taste will not rank very on high on the "concern list." View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: You'll need plenty of seasoning to go with the Beans and Rice. Otherwise, talk about bland meals. If your stuck with rice and beans only...the taste will not rank very on high on the "concern list." You would think, but this is a misconception. Some people(few) can readily eat the same thing day in and day our. More common is people get very calorie deficient when the available food pales on the palate. They decline in health and then illness starts setting in. It is well documented. Variety, even on occasion, makes a big difference. I forgot to mention sugar and fat in my previous post. Hard working, or stressed, or cold people will start to crave sugar and fat like nobody's business. Honey, turbinado sugar, and other long term stable sweets are worth their weight in gold |
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I cannot stand rice. Three different kinds of beans and corn meal is my prep in it's place.
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Quoted: Rice is very empty of calories. Beans are much better. But, energy is needed to cool them. View Quote wrong terminology -- Rice is missing a lot of nutrients, it is mostly empty calories. But it is cheap, dense, and stores well. You complement it with the right varietal(s) of beans, plus vitamins/fat/protein. |
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Quoted: Do you guys see us turning in a Venezuela or North Korea anytime soon? Researched? That's why I asked - when in the history of the US was a person not able to procure food for survival? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Not an uncommon mentality. One that hasn't been thought through, nor researched. So, although completely ignorant and short sighted, it is a notion that is probably more popular than not. Do you guys see us turning in a Venezuela or North Korea anytime soon? Researched? That's why I asked - when in the history of the US was a person not able to procure food for survival? Yes. People have starved in the US. Various rationing during wars. Depression. Think a little further. If food gets very expensive because of inflation or scarcity, a well stocked pantry isn't just insurance against starving. It can reduce your grocery bill so you can more easily afford other things like gas. Feel free to rely on the US government looking out for you. They have such a great track record. |
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Quoted: You would think, but this is a misconception. Some people(few) can readily eat the same thing day in and day our. More common is people get very calorie deficient when the available food pales on the palate. They decline in health and then illness starts setting in. It is well documented. Variety, even on occasion, makes a big difference. I forgot to mention sugar and fat in my previous post. Hard working, or stressed, or cold people will start to crave sugar and fat like nobody's business. Honey, turbinado sugar, and other long term stable sweets are worth their weight in gold View Quote In all seriousness - and I may have missed when this thread went from joking to serious - seasonings should be well-represented in any prepper stash. You can go to walmart and buy those $1 containers of various spices and for only a few bucks make the difference in quality of life as it relates to food palatability. We keep several different hot sauces, vinegar, garlic, and so on. Plus lots of salt. You can go spend $10 on a bag of salt at the feed store and never run out. |
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Give me a sister, I can't resist her
Red beans and rice didn't miss her |
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Quoted: How do you add flavor to rice and beans? Eaten them when I had to but they don’t taste all that great. View Quote The basics of cooking flavors: Salt, Acid, Sweet, Savory This really should be taught to everyone as a basic principle of food, instead of just "Oh Mom ads X and Y so I will too", as it's biological science and easy to explain. Add Salt, Pepper, Garlic, Onion to any carb (rice/beans are the carb here) or vegetable as a base seasoning. Acid can come from vinegar, citrus fruits, tomatoes, etc. Spicy and more herbs/seeds added in also depending on style, as well as animal protein flavors (meat, broth, bullion) and oils (olive, avocado, canola, butter) for texture/flavor/nutrition. |
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Quoted: Did anyone actually STARVE during the Depression? When, in the history of the US did people have to rely on SURVIVAL caches for their meals? I lived thru the LA fires, the big earthquake, the riots and all the grocery stores and restaurants stayed open. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Are you dumb ignorant or did you just flunk out of school and not pay attention? Have you ever heard of the Great Depression? Did anyone actually STARVE during the Depression? When, in the history of the US did people have to rely on SURVIVAL caches for their meals? I lived thru the LA fires, the big earthquake, the riots and all the grocery stores and restaurants stayed open. Lots of hungry people that were malnourished but data doesn't show an increase in starvation deaths. Actually some data suggests life expectancy increased during that period, improved sanitation and newer medicine played a role in that but not eating to excess probably did too. |
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Quoted: How do you add flavor to rice and beans? Eaten them when I had to but they don’t taste all that great. View Quote Any fatty meat including varmints you can trap like coon and groundhog. Hog jowls. Bacon. Ham. Fish. Veg like carrot, celery, etc. Hot peppers, onion, garlic. Sugar. Vinegar. Citrus. Ginger. Nutmeg. Clove. (Some for just rice, some for both) Serve on corn bread or tortillas etc. Baked beans are a treat. Rice pudding is easily done out of the pantry. |
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Quoted: Did anyone actually STARVE during the Depression? When, in the history of the US did people have to rely on SURVIVAL caches for their meals? I lived thru the LA fires, the big earthquake, the riots and all the grocery stores and restaurants stayed open. View Quote Look at it this way; why is it a bad idea to keep 3-6 months of long term shelf stable food on hand? |
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Ive been subtly slipping fattening foods to my neighbors in the disguise as gifts to plump them up a bit
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Quoted: Meh. They're just glorified seasonings. Not very calorie-dense. Of course, on week 132 of Build back Better Baked Beans, some seasoning might be nice. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Don’t forget the canned tomatoes Meh. They're just glorified seasonings. Not very calorie-dense. Of course, on week 132 of Build back Better Baked Beans, some seasoning might be nice. It balances out the vitamins and minerals otherwise missing from beans and rice |
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Quoted: The basics of cooking flavors: Salt, Acid, Sweet, Savory This really should be taught to everyone as a basic principle of food, instead of just "Oh Mom ads X and Y so I will too", as it's biological science and easy to explain. Add Salt, Pepper, Garlic, Onion to any carb (rice/beans are the carb here) or vegetable as a base seasoning. Acid can come from vinegar, citrus fruits, tomatoes, etc. Spicy and more herbs/seeds added in also depending on style. View Quote Adding to the acid part.. Vinegar based hot sauce is a great acid for flavor and keeps forever. |
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Quoted: Did anyone actually STARVE during the Depression? When, in the history of the US did people have to rely on SURVIVAL caches for their meals? I lived thru the LA fires, the big earthquake, the riots and all the grocery stores and restaurants stayed open. View Quote Did you live through the dust bowl? Or gold rush? |
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