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Link Posted: 12/14/2015 10:59:16 PM EST
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Does aimpoint make anything with a 1moa dot or is 2moa the smallest?
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AFAIK, 2 MOA is the smallest you can go with AP.
Link Posted: 12/14/2015 11:17:18 PM EST
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Good luck with that. I almost sent mine through USPS for that reason only (my Dad has been a mailman for 40 years) but went with UPS because I realized the mail fraud claim for my sight, with USPS, would go nowhere......look into it. Mail fraud happens all the time. The USPS will not return your money if you get ripped off.
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So ya'll are just sending in your $400 sight with no proof they're going to give you money?
Yes, via USPS so the mail fraud department will get involved.  Approving a refund and then not refunding = theft = mail fraud.

 




Good luck with that. I almost sent mine through USPS for that reason only (my Dad has been a mailman for 40 years) but went with UPS because I realized the mail fraud claim for my sight, with USPS, would go nowhere......look into it. Mail fraud happens all the time. The USPS will not return your money if you get ripped off.
I suppose, but if several hundred people (at least on ARF) have the same problem, it'll probably be investigated.



 
Link Posted: 12/14/2015 11:24:56 PM EST
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Aimpoint employees are going to get some nice bonuses this year.
Link Posted: 12/14/2015 11:28:36 PM EST
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AFAIK, 2 MOA is the smallest you can go with AP.
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Does aimpoint make anything with a 1moa dot or is 2moa the smallest?


AFAIK, 2 MOA is the smallest you can go with AP.

2 MOA is way too big for a rifle IMO, I've hade instances that I thought 1  was a bit large.
Link Posted: 12/14/2015 11:33:04 PM EST
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I submitted my request for $650 for an EXPS2-0 with no receipt and recieved an approval within 10 minutes.
Seems a lil odd to get a responce that fast if they are so busy. I'm also uneasy about the "ship us your EOTech as soon as possible" sentence in the email.
They seem to be very eager to take them from us but not to hand out the refund.
Also the fact that nowhere does it say in what form the refund will be. Maybe I'm just paranoid. Now I'm debating to keep a sight I've loved until I logged
onto ARFCOM after a 2 year break.

Link Posted: 12/14/2015 11:58:56 PM EST
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This is a frigging disaster for me. I own four Eotechs that I have never had a problem with. Although I've never used them in cold weather.
But hearing all this, now I can't trust them!

I don't know what I'm going to do!
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 12:03:56 AM EST
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I submitted my request for $650 for an EXPS2-0 with no receipt and recieved an approval within 10 minutes.
Seems a lil odd to get a responce that fast if they are so busy. I'm also uneasy about the "ship us your EOTech as soon as possible" sentence in the email.
They seem to be very eager to take them from us but not to hand out the refund.
Also the fact that nowhere does it say in what form the refund will be. Maybe I'm just paranoid. Now I'm debating to keep a sight I've loved until I logged
onto ARFCOM after a 2 year break.

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The email didn't say "ship us as soon as possible", it said (pasted)

Your refund request has been received and approved. Please print and enclose this email with your optic and return it to: EOTech Refunds, 1201 E Ellsworth Rd, Ann Arbor, MI  48108.  EOTech will refund the purchase price plus $15 shipping cost as soon as possible.
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 1:01:53 AM EST
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This is a frigging disaster for me. I own four Eotechs that I have never had a problem with. Although I've never used them in cold weather.
But hearing all this, now I can't trust them!

I don't know what I'm going to do!
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Get all your money back for the EOTechs you enjoyed loaning at no cost, and buy other kickass optics at no loss?
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 3:11:58 AM EST
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Lol, I have an old broken eotech I basically got in trade for next to nothing.  I'm going to submit a request for a refund for the amount I paid, which was like $14 dollars.
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 3:21:13 AM EST
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The email didn't say "ship us as soon as possible", it said (pasted)

Your refund request has been received and approved. Please print and enclose this email with your optic and return it to: EOTech Refunds, 1201 E Ellsworth Rd, Ann Arbor, MI  48108.  EOTech will refund the purchase price plus $15 shipping cost as soon as possible.
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I submitted my request for $650 for an EXPS2-0 with no receipt and recieved an approval within 10 minutes.
Seems a lil odd to get a responce that fast if they are so busy. I'm also uneasy about the "ship us your EOTech as soon as possible" sentence in the email.
They seem to be very eager to take them from us but not to hand out the refund.
Also the fact that nowhere does it say in what form the refund will be. Maybe I'm just paranoid. Now I'm debating to keep a sight I've loved until I logged
onto ARFCOM after a 2 year break.



The email didn't say "ship us as soon as possible", it said (pasted)

Your refund request has been received and approved. Please print and enclose this email with your optic and return it to: EOTech Refunds, 1201 E Ellsworth Rd, Ann Arbor, MI  48108.  EOTech will refund the purchase price plus $15 shipping cost as soon as possible.


I just went read it again and your absolutely correct. I knew it had ASAP in there somewhere. I need to read a lil better before I post.
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 3:57:35 AM EST
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2 MOA is way too big for a rifle IMO, I've hade instances that I thought 1  was a bit large.
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Does aimpoint make anything with a 1moa dot or is 2moa the smallest?


AFAIK, 2 MOA is the smallest you can go with AP.

2 MOA is way too big for a rifle IMO, I've hade instances that I thought 1  was a bit large.


Meh, an Aimpoint's primary intended usage is short to medium range engagements on man size targets.  When looked at in that light, 2 MOA is perfectly fine.  If you're trying to shoot for groups, you'd be better off choosing something else.
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 7:21:41 AM EST
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So Im the only one who has been called by Eotech, or did everyone just ignore my post?

Link Posted: 12/15/2015 7:41:17 AM EST
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I've not personally received a call from L3/EOTech nor have I read anything where anyone else has received a phone call. Let us know if you determine what that was all about.
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 7:48:01 AM EST
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So Im the only one who has been called by Eotech, or did everyone just ignore my post?

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One guy called and spoke to the president but thats all ive heard of phone contact.
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 7:57:58 AM EST
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I submitted a request for a 553.  They came back and asked if I had a receipt.  I said that I did not, which I don't.  They returned with "we need a receipt as this is a military model optic".  Has anybody ran into that one yet?
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 8:08:40 AM EST
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I used 469 for my 2003 551.A65.......

RAR -12/9
Approved - 12/11
Mailed - 12/11
Received - 12/14
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 8:08:48 AM EST
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I submitted a request for a 553.  They came back and asked if I had a receipt.  I said that I did not, which I don't.  They returned with "we need a receipt as this is a military model optic".  Has anybody ran into that one yet?
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SU-231 markings or just plain 553?

I got mine approved yesterday no problem, plain ole black 553.
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 8:11:40 AM EST
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I submitted a request for a 553.  They came back and asked if I had a receipt.  I said that I did not, which I don't.  They returned with "we need a receipt as this is a military model optic".  Has anybody ran into that one yet?
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I submitted my refund request for my 553 last Thursday night and it was approved the next day (Friday afternoon ).  No request for my receipt was asked even though I still have it from 2007. I sent her back yesterday via UPS ground.
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 8:20:49 AM EST
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SU-231 markings or just plain 553?

I got mine approved yesterday no problem, plain ole black 553.
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I submitted a request for a 553.  They came back and asked if I had a receipt.  I said that I did not, which I don't.  They returned with "we need a receipt as this is a military model optic".  Has anybody ran into that one yet?


SU-231 markings or just plain 553?

I got mine approved yesterday no problem, plain ole black 553.



SU-231 markings on the FDE optic
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 8:48:47 AM EST
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FWIW. .....mine was marked SU231/PEQ above the serial number.
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 8:50:55 AM EST
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FWIW. .....mine was marked SU231/PEQ above the serial number.
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Did you have a copy of your receipt?
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 8:59:59 AM EST
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FWIW. .....mine was marked SU231/PEQ above the serial number.
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As was mine...got my approval no problem.
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 9:17:19 AM EST
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So folks are now finally understanding why we in the military ALWAYS ran our rear BUIS in the up position when issued an EOTech.

Yet - - - I'm going to hang on to my one & only EOTech for now since its on one of my "fun-guns" and not my social firearms that all have Aimpoints.

Having had a less than enjoyable experience dealing with L3 as the Army's User Proponent on a billion dollar simulator program....., I'm going to wait and see if the "checks-in-the-mail" really ever arrive.

I wouldn't put it pass those L3 SOBs to put EOTech into bankruptcy and then sell the return inventory to Cheaper Than Dirt.  
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 9:49:32 AM EST
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I'm guessing at least 6 to 8 weeks for a refund check and I'm sure for tax purposes they wanna get as much done as fast as possible.
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 10:10:14 AM EST
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I think I am going to wait to see some reports of actual received funds before I start boxing up my EoTech units


Link Posted: 12/15/2015 10:16:58 AM EST
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Did you have a copy of your receipt?


I do but they didn't ask for it and it was approved.
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 11:39:35 AM EST
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I spoke to Eotech this morning.

To clear up my personal situation, and help others with the "MAGNIFIER" confusion, the MAGNIFIER MUST BE INCLUDED.


That is NOT what I was told in 3 different emails from "Patrice"

But I can assure you, they want both pieces back, since in the HHSI and HHSII they are a "SET"


I was told to send my magnifier back or I would need to adjust the refund amount down to account for the magnifier.


I was ok with that, and actually think it lends credibility to this.


FOR THOSE WHO KEEP PUSHING THE "CREDIT" VS MONEY DEBATE, STOP.   ITS A MONEY REFUND, NOT CREDIT  
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 11:41:31 AM EST
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I SPOKE TO EOTECH THIS MORNING


To clear up my personal situation, and help others with the "MAGNIFIER" confusion, the MAGNIFIER MUST BE INCLUDED.


That is NOT what I was told in 3 different emails from "PATRICE"

But I can assure you, they want both pieces back, since in the HHSI and HHSII they are a "SET"


I was told to send my magnifier back or I would need to adjust the refund amount down to account for the magnifier.


I was ok with that, and actually think it lends credibility to this.


FOR THOSE WHO KEEP PUSHING THE "CREDIT" VS MONEY DEBATE, STOP.   ITS A MONEY REFUND, NOT CREDIT
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Thanks for the info.
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 11:52:06 AM EST
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I spoke to Eotech this morning.



To clear up my personal situation, and help others with the "MAGNIFIER" confusion, the MAGNIFIER MUST BE INCLUDED.





That is NOT what I was told in 3 different emails from "Patrice"



But I can assure you, they want both pieces back, since in the HHSI and HHSII they are a "SET"





I was told to send my magnifier back or I would need to adjust the refund amount down to account for the magnifier.





I was ok with that, and actually think it lends credibility to this.





FOR THOSE WHO KEEP PUSHING THE "CREDIT" VS MONEY DEBATE, STOP.   ITS A MONEY REFUND, NOT CREDIT  
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Agreed. I'm one of those approved for refund on a combo set. The snag seems to be if you're trying to return a magnifier that was bought stand alone.

 
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 11:56:40 AM EST
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Guys that are sending in 231 marked 553's... Are any of them Law Guns units?

I'm debating if I should RMA mine. I still have the $350 receipt, but scared to go through with it.
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 11:57:52 AM EST
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They approved my refund on my Eotech made in 2000, still working fine but does look to be delaminating some. I will mail it Thursday.
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 12:00:09 PM EST
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Fuckin' post office...
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 12:05:43 PM EST
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So far I have gotten the run around and still own a broken 552.

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 12:07:33 PM EST
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My tracking says the same damn thing.
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 12:10:59 PM EST
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lol.  Mine was delivered yesterday.

ETA:  NVM, didn't see they tried to deliver late, haha.
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 12:14:26 PM EST
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Thanks, that settles it, I'm taking mine to the UPS hub in Austinburg.
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Thanks, that settles it, I'm taking mine to the UPS hub in Austinburg.


The USPS delivers packages on Sunday. If the business is not open on Sunday, how is it USPS
s fault?
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 12:30:01 PM EST
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My tracking says the same damn thing.
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My tracking says the same damn thing.


LOL sucks for you guys

Mine was USPS, delivered yesterday at 8am
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 12:31:56 PM EST
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Get all your money back for the EOTechs you enjoyed loaning at no cost, and buy other kickass optics at no loss?
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This is a frigging disaster for me. I own four Eotechs that I have never had a problem with. Although I've never used them in cold weather.

But hearing all this, now I can't trust them!



I don't know what I'm going to do!


Get all your money back for the EOTechs you enjoyed loaning at no cost, and buy other kickass optics at no loss?
Actually, he gave Eotech a zero interest loan for all these years.

 
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 12:47:10 PM EST
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UPS wouldn't ship my sight. Says it was a gun part. Stupid that they will take manufacturers and dealers money and ship but not from individuals. FUPS! Had to ship USPS. It was half as much through USPS anyways.
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Why would you tell them what it was? I would tell them it was electronics if they really needed to know.
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 12:58:07 PM EST
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This is a frigging disaster for me. I own four Eotechs that I have never had a problem with. Although I've never used them in cold weather.
But hearing all this, now I can't trust them!

I don't know what I'm going to do!
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Send them back and get something that is not faulty by design
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 1:01:23 PM EST
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Yep, they fucked me last night too.
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The 14th was yesterday.  I don't work a 9-5, but I think it was a Monday.  Not only that, how many offices are open at 8pm?
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Thanks, that settles it, I'm taking mine to the UPS hub in Austinburg.


The USPS delivers packages on Sunday. If the business is not open on Sunday, how is it USPS
s fault?


The 14th was yesterday.  I don't work a 9-5, but I think it was a Monday.  Not only that, how many offices are open at 8pm?


Dammit, you're right, my bad. My kid was sick yesterday and it made me think it was Sunday. Time means nothing to a stay at home parent.
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 1:07:01 PM EST
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I had the same. Shows delivered now...
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 1:13:33 PM EST
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Filled out the RMA for my 512-A yesterday. Just got an email that I'm approved for a $459 refund + $15 shipping.
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 1:25:31 PM EST
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Filled out my rma today for my xps2.

Kind of funny, I just got it back a couple weeks ago for warranty work because it would no longer get bright enough to see during daylight hours. 2013 manufacture date.... very lightly used, no cold, sand or humidity. I have a $69 Bushnell micro that has taken far more abuse with no issues. Makes me sick to think I could have picked up 7 or so of those for what I spent on the xps2.  


I'm glad I can just get a check and pick something else up now, I don't have a lot of faith in stuff once its failed me. For those on the fence I would take the money and run.
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 1:31:00 PM EST
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Wasn't sure that I was going to take advantage of this offer at first. But after thinking it over decided to sent in my request for a RMA# also.
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 1:32:33 PM EST
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I told the UPS store it was "optical equipment" she was kind of WTF but gave me no problems. Also got a WTF look about $1000 for insurance. She said there had to be a minimum of 2 inches of packing around the item or they wouldn't pay. I said that's fine and signed where I refused extra packing. I packed my 512's well and am only worried about theft anyway.

Is anyone else paranoid about sending two sights back in the same box? I sent my two rma's in the box on top of the Eotech box and wrapped the individual sights in copys or the rma. I just feel like I am going to get screwed on this somehow. Like, I won't get any refund or only get a refund for one instead of two.
Link Posted: 12/15/2015 2:10:24 PM EST
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I have always been a big Eotech supporter...

But after reading about the shenanigans that they have pulled...I am sending mine back got the approval this morning...

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