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This is the latest is a long string of crises to keep the war on drugs going. We have turned a social issue into a multi billion dollar a year industry of law enforcement and criminals and jails
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I've know people that got hooked on pain meds after surgery.
I also know people who need extreme pain management. While I think these drugs are a good tool to have in the box, I think a little more patient .edu needs to happen. Nobody can be an expert on everything, and they trust their doctor. If these pills are good now, they are better later, right? Lets give docs more than 30 seconds with a patient, and let the doc talk about the VERY REAL side effects of these pain meds. If a person still wants to get on an addictive pain med, that is between the patient and their doctor. But to hand out drugs that 100% have nasty side effects, but ban a natural plant that could possibly do the same job, is beyond stupid. |
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Op what in the hell would you have people do? I live in constant pain and have had a pain management doc for the past 10 years, and I taper myself off to nothing at least once per month just to prove to myself there's no issue, but this shouldn't be anyone's business but mine. Why in the heck should you or the government get in the middle of what's best for my family? You or anyone else never give a good plan of what should be done in place of these "evil Opiates". It's such a silly liberal argument that these medications are bad so you can't have them, but you know some folks get addicted so everyone can't have them. Some people shoot up schools so you can't have a gun is the same retarded argument. How about everyone stays out of their neighbors life? I get chronic kidney stones about once per month, and I'd love to see these people who keep saying we shouldn't have relief beg for relief from one kidney stone only to be told nope sorry you just need to stretch and push through the pain because hey you might get addicted. Keep this crap up and see how many suicides start happening. View Quote |
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Quoted: There are not known addictive properties associated with NSAID's, thus they are correctly labeled as non habit forming, but yes, long term use of them certainly leads to plenty of issues and is no better than opioids. View Quote These are being prescribed like candy because "it's better than opiates!" Sad. |
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So, what would you have someone who is in excruciating pain and has found an opioid that works for them, take? Just tough it out with some ibuprofen? "Oh, you have 5 crushed disks and constant nerve pain? Well, we can't have you taking an opioid. You might get addicted. Much better for you to live in agonizing pain so we feel better about ourselves". View Quote For every person like you, there are several others who are getting Medicaid to buy them so they can sell them to junkies. The doctors can’t deny the patients the prescription because they will get bad ratings from the junkies, which severely affects their standing with both private and public insurance. The doctors are in a catch 22. Long term opioid prescriptions just cover up the problem. You still have 5 crushed vertebrae. No insurance company wants to pay for a real fix for the problem because it’s cheaper to just cover it up with OxyContin. Drying up the supply of pills just covers up the addition problem. Existing opioid addicts will find opioid come hell or high water, but the new batch of addicts growing up will just find a new drug to get high. No matter what is done, innocent people are going to get fucked while the cartels rake it in. |
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lol The opiod crisis, just like the obesity crisis, is the result of human nature, nothing else. It's not the government's "fault" it's not the FDA's "fault" - it the fault of peoples' choices. View Quote Physicians, per .gov regs, have been obligated to regard pain as the fifth vital sign. Putting it on par with blood pressure, heart rate, temperature, et al. This is very new. Physicians have had their reimbursement tied to patient satisfaction scores. Also new. Don’t write an RX to a patient and piss him off......and your pay goes down. It’s nuts. Physicians no longer have the authority to moderate a patients pain meds......and patients, especially the drug seekers, know this. It is a mess, and it is TRULY a .gov created mess. |
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This is not a clear cut issue. For every person like you, there are several others who are getting Medicaid to buy them so they can sell them to junkies. The doctors can’t deny the patients the prescription because they will get bad ratings from the junkies, which severely affects their standing with both private and public insurance. The doctors are in a catch 22. Long term opioid prescriptions just cover up the problem. You still have 5 crushed vertebrae. No insurance company wants to pay for a real fix for the problem because it’s cheaper to just cover it up with OxyContin. Drying up the supply of pills just covers up the addition problem. Existing opioid addicts will find opioid come hell or high water, but the new batch of addicts growing up will just find a new drug to get high. No matter what is done, innocent people are going to get fucked while the cartels rake it in. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So, what would you have someone who is in excruciating pain and has found an opioid that works for them, take? Just tough it out with some ibuprofen? "Oh, you have 5 crushed disks and constant nerve pain? Well, we can't have you taking an opioid. You might get addicted. Much better for you to live in agonizing pain so we feel better about ourselves". For every person like you, there are several others who are getting Medicaid to buy them so they can sell them to junkies. The doctors can’t deny the patients the prescription because they will get bad ratings from the junkies, which severely affects their standing with both private and public insurance. The doctors are in a catch 22. Long term opioid prescriptions just cover up the problem. You still have 5 crushed vertebrae. No insurance company wants to pay for a real fix for the problem because it’s cheaper to just cover it up with OxyContin. Drying up the supply of pills just covers up the addition problem. Existing opioid addicts will find opioid come hell or high water, but the new batch of addicts growing up will just find a new drug to get high. No matter what is done, innocent people are going to get fucked while the cartels rake it in. |
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OP watched a 43 minute TV show called 60 minutes, so he's now an authority on the subject. We'd better listen to him, guys.
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This is very wrong. Physicians, per .gov regs, have been obligated to regard pain as the fifth viral sign. Putting it on par with blood pressure, heart rate, temperature, et al. This is very new. Physicians have had their reimbursement tied to patient satisfaction scores. Also new. Physicians no longer have the authority to moderate a patients pain meds......and patients, especially the drug seekers, know this. It is a mess, and it is TRULY a .gov created mess. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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lol The opiod crisis, just like the obesity crisis, is the result of human nature, nothing else. It's not the government's "fault" it's not the FDA's "fault" - it the fault of peoples' choices. Physicians, per .gov regs, have been obligated to regard pain as the fifth viral sign. Putting it on par with blood pressure, heart rate, temperature, et al. This is very new. Physicians have had their reimbursement tied to patient satisfaction scores. Also new. Physicians no longer have the authority to moderate a patients pain meds......and patients, especially the drug seekers, know this. It is a mess, and it is TRULY a .gov created mess. |
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This is not a clear cut issue. For every person like you, there are several others who are getting Medicaid to buy them so they can sell them to junkies. The doctors can't deny the patients the prescription because they will get bad ratings from the junkies, which severely affects their standing with both private and public insurance. The doctors are in a catch 22. View Quote So we are saying that something like what? 70-80% of all prescriptions are bullshit? Is that the claim here? |
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This is very wrong. Physicians, per .gov regs, have been obligated to regard pain as the fifth viral sign. Putting it on par with blood pressure, heart rate, temperature, et al. This is very new. Physicians have had their reimbursement tied to patient satisfaction scores. Also new. Physicians no longer have the authority to moderate a patients pain meds......and patients, especially the drug seekers, know this. It is a mess, and it is TRULY a .gov created mess. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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lol The opiod crisis, just like the obesity crisis, is the result of human nature, nothing else. It's not the government's "fault" it's not the FDA's "fault" - it the fault of peoples' choices. Physicians, per .gov regs, have been obligated to regard pain as the fifth viral sign. Putting it on par with blood pressure, heart rate, temperature, et al. This is very new. Physicians have had their reimbursement tied to patient satisfaction scores. Also new. Physicians no longer have the authority to moderate a patients pain meds......and patients, especially the drug seekers, know this. It is a mess, and it is TRULY a .gov created mess. In many cases they are damned if they do, and damned if they don’t, just like these unfortunate patients are. |
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As good as modern medicine is some things just can't be fixed at our current technology levels. He can get a multi level fusion and is going to very likely be in the same level of pain as prior to surgery. Fusions over time destroy the vertebra above and below the fusion site, thus needing more fusions 5,10,15 years down the line. In some cases doing nothing and easing pain is the best option View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So, what would you have someone who is in excruciating pain and has found an opioid that works for them, take? Just tough it out with some ibuprofen? "Oh, you have 5 crushed disks and constant nerve pain? Well, we can't have you taking an opioid. You might get addicted. Much better for you to live in agonizing pain so we feel better about ourselves". For every person like you, there are several others who are getting Medicaid to buy them so they can sell them to junkies. The doctors can’t deny the patients the prescription because they will get bad ratings from the junkies, which severely affects their standing with both private and public insurance. The doctors are in a catch 22. Long term opioid prescriptions just cover up the problem. You still have 5 crushed vertebrae. No insurance company wants to pay for a real fix for the problem because it’s cheaper to just cover it up with OxyContin. Drying up the supply of pills just covers up the addition problem. Existing opioid addicts will find opioid come hell or high water, but the new batch of addicts growing up will just find a new drug to get high. No matter what is done, innocent people are going to get fucked while the cartels rake it in. It's interesting that when drugs are discussed anyone in favor of less regulation is assumed to be a user. |
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On one hand I feel like if I break my toe and need a few norco for a week I shouldn't have to ask uncle sugar for permission. On the other I personally know someone who got a bottle of lortabs after wisdom tooth surgery and it literally destroyed his life and family. Full blown heroin addict a few years later. View Quote I am calling bullshit on all of these "my buddy had his appendix removed and was sucking dick for heroin 48 hours later" stories. |
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As good as modern medicine is some things just can't be fixed at our current technology levels. He can get a multi level fusion and is going to very likely be in the same level of pain as prior to surgery. Fusions over time destroy the vertebrata above and below the fusion site, thus needing more fusions 5,10,15 years down the line. In some cases doing nothing and easing pain is the best option View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So, what would you have someone who is in excruciating pain and has found an opioid that works for them, take? Just tough it out with some ibuprofen? "Oh, you have 5 crushed disks and constant nerve pain? Well, we can't have you taking an opioid. You might get addicted. Much better for you to live in agonizing pain so we feel better about ourselves". For every person like you, there are several others who are getting Medicaid to buy them so they can sell them to junkies. The doctors can’t deny the patients the prescription because they will get bad ratings from the junkies, which severely affects their standing with both private and public insurance. The doctors are in a catch 22. Long term opioid prescriptions just cover up the problem. You still have 5 crushed vertebrae. No insurance company wants to pay for a real fix for the problem because it’s cheaper to just cover it up with OxyContin. Drying up the supply of pills just covers up the addition problem. Existing opioid addicts will find opioid come hell or high water, but the new batch of addicts growing up will just find a new drug to get high. No matter what is done, innocent people are going to get fucked while the cartels rake it in. Nobody is denying that fucking addicts are fucking people over with their BS. I feel for people like ridgerunner, but look at posters in this thread who think it is appropriate to prescribe opioids for a few broken toes. Guess what, broken bones are supposed to hurt. That is your body telling you to lay up until the bones knit. Opioids just make you feel better, they don’t solve the bones knitting, and cause reinjuries because it suppressed the bodies way of keeping you from aggravating it. |
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This. "Is the FDA at fault" is the kind of mindset that caused me to go to the pharmacy yesterday and not be able to refill a prescription until this morning. Because it's scheduled (not an opiate) and I have 4 pills left. If I travel toward the end of a bottle, I'll need to secure "special authorization" from my Dr to get a refill a few days early. Fucking idiocy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Get government out of medicine. If I travel toward the end of a bottle, I'll need to secure "special authorization" from my Dr to get a refill a few days early. Fucking idiocy. |
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The alignment of the political means to disarm a society, and using the power to misrepresent a RX ? I am trying to really understand, not being a typical GD'er View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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No. Its a pretty direct allegory. I am trying to really understand, not being a typical GD'er Nope. I don't see a single similarity there. Not one. |
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Several others soliciting prescriptions just to sell them, for each responsible user? Cite? So we are saying that something like what? 70-80% of all prescriptions are bullshit? Is that the claim here? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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This is not a clear cut issue. For every person like you, there are several others who are getting Medicaid to buy them so they can sell them to junkies. The doctors can't deny the patients the prescription because they will get bad ratings from the junkies, which severely affects their standing with both private and public insurance. The doctors are in a catch 22. So we are saying that something like what? 70-80% of all prescriptions are bullshit? Is that the claim here? |
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There are not known addictive properties associated with NSAID's, thus they are correctly labeled as non habit forming, but yes, long term use of them certainly leads to plenty of issues and is no better than opioids. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Keep taking NSAIDs and other OTC long term and see what happens, most people take more then they should also! But keep parroting what they're telling you. Holy moly |
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I do not envy doctors, for the mess the country is in over this. In many cases they are damned if they do, and damned if they don’t, just like these unfortunate patients are. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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lol The opiod crisis, just like the obesity crisis, is the result of human nature, nothing else. It's not the government's "fault" it's not the FDA's "fault" - it the fault of peoples' choices. Physicians, per .gov regs, have been obligated to regard pain as the fifth viral sign. Putting it on par with blood pressure, heart rate, temperature, et al. This is very new. Physicians have had their reimbursement tied to patient satisfaction scores. Also new. Physicians no longer have the authority to moderate a patients pain meds......and patients, especially the drug seekers, know this. It is a mess, and it is TRULY a .gov created mess. In many cases they are damned if they do, and damned if they don’t, just like these unfortunate patients are. Prescription opioids fail rigorous new test for chronic pain |
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It’s no different than the heroin epidemic, or meth epidemic, or drunk driving/alcohol epidemic. The only reason it’s at the forefront right now is because it’s the current pet issue of pols.
The gov screws up damn near every single thing it touches, they suck at fixing shit so right now they’re going to “focus” on an issue they hope they’ll be able to point to and say “look, we’re fixing something, ignore all our other screw ups!”. But they’ll screw this up too, it’s inevitable. And the other poster who was ignored is correct. If the medicine is at fault, then invent or approve something else that actually works for chronic pain. Until then, I’m simply not interested in hearing a bunch of pols try and feather their caps at the expense of folks who live in chronic pain. |
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I thought the argument was - opiates work great for short term pain relief, like the first couple days after a surgery, but over a longer term, the patient develops a tolerance.
To provide the same level of relief, the patient has to take ever increasing dosages. Over the longer term, the patients become opiate addicts because they are ingesting relatively large amounts of opiates. As a result, according to the argument, the trade off here for the long term pain relief is become both an opiate addict and potentially suffer the health consequences of using large quantities of opiates each and every day. If that is in fact the trade off, then the Doctors need to be telling people that up front, before they begin taking opiates over an extended period. |
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So long as they're not addicts, who cares if their kidneys and liver are destroyed? Holy moly View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Keep taking NSAIDs and other OTC long term and see what happens, most people take more then they should also! But keep parroting what they're telling you. Holy moly |
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The addicts and junkies will find a way and some are actually scary smart. At my wife's practice about 1-2 years ago they had a person come in for a consult , but unbeknownst to them it was a stake out. This person went online and somehow was able to order scrip pads and was filling about 4k of Vicodin and Norco a week. Took about 2-4 weeks before the several dozen pharmacies involved caught on and called my wife's practice. It was a huge deal at the time, but you know what happened? Nothing not a dam thing happened and nobody to my wife's or doc's knowledge were prosecuted View Quote Junkies will always figure a way. Always have, always will. The rates of addiction to drugs don't change over time, no matter what policies are put into place. I do have an issue with Grandma having to physically drive to the Dr and get a piece of paper just to attempt to block this imagined boogeyman. Why not fund an online system for verification of script fraud, which would undoubtedly save net resources from the wasted bureaucratic horseshit related to making it more difficult for normal everyday people to fill their fucking prescriptions. |
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My older step son is working full time on the class action suit that has the first court date nationally.
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Op I will ask once more, what is the solution? They're isn't one that I'm aware of, so until one is found opiates are the only game in town. I would love to hear real answers from those that are saying pain meds don't work, and only future heroin users take them.
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This. "Is the FDA at fault" is the kind of mindset that caused me to go to the pharmacy yesterday and not be able to refill a prescription until this morning. Because it's scheduled (not an opiate) and I have 4 pills left. If I travel toward the end of a bottle, I'll need to secure "special authorization" from my Dr to get a refill a few days early. Fucking idiocy. View Quote But add that the pharmacy is across state lines and an hour and a half drive each way. With no way to fill instate. |
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Massive government over regulation of a substance or inanimate object that is perceived to be dangerous to you or society? Nope. I don't see a single similarity there. Not one. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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No. Its a pretty direct allegory. I am trying to really understand, not being a typical GD'er Nope. I don't see a single similarity there. Not one. If liberty and freedom are the big draws here, I get it. It's your point to make. |
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How much research is being done on how to fix these sort of back problems? Nobody is denying that fucking addicts are fucking people over with their BS. I feel for people like ridgerunner, but look at posters in this thread who think it is appropriate to prescribe opioids for a few broken toes. Guess what, broken bones are supposed to hurt. That is your body telling you to lay up until the bones knit. Opioids just make you feel better, they don’t solve the bones knitting, and cause reinjuries because it suppressed the bodies way of keeping you from aggravating it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So, what would you have someone who is in excruciating pain and has found an opioid that works for them, take? Just tough it out with some ibuprofen? "Oh, you have 5 crushed disks and constant nerve pain? Well, we can't have you taking an opioid. You might get addicted. Much better for you to live in agonizing pain so we feel better about ourselves". For every person like you, there are several others who are getting Medicaid to buy them so they can sell them to junkies. The doctors can’t deny the patients the prescription because they will get bad ratings from the junkies, which severely affects their standing with both private and public insurance. The doctors are in a catch 22. Long term opioid prescriptions just cover up the problem. You still have 5 crushed vertebrae. No insurance company wants to pay for a real fix for the problem because it’s cheaper to just cover it up with OxyContin. Drying up the supply of pills just covers up the addition problem. Existing opioid addicts will find opioid come hell or high water, but the new batch of addicts growing up will just find a new drug to get high. No matter what is done, innocent people are going to get fucked while the cartels rake it in. Nobody is denying that fucking addicts are fucking people over with their BS. I feel for people like ridgerunner, but look at posters in this thread who think it is appropriate to prescribe opioids for a few broken toes. Guess what, broken bones are supposed to hurt. That is your body telling you to lay up until the bones knit. Opioids just make you feel better, they don’t solve the bones knitting, and cause reinjuries because it suppressed the bodies way of keeping you from aggravating it. |
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I thought the argument was - opiates work great for short term pain relief, like the first couple days after a surgery, but over a longer term, the patient develops a tolerance. To provide the same level of relief, the patient has to take ever increasing dosages. Over the longer term, the patients become opiate addicts because they are ingesting relatively large amounts of opiates. As a result, according to the argument, the trade off here for the long term pain relief is become both an opiate addict and potentially suffer the health consequences of using large quantities of opiates each and every day. If that is in fact the trade off, then the Doctors need to be telling people that up front, before they begin taking opiates over an extended period. View Quote |
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Massive government over regulation of a substance or inanimate object that is perceived to be dangerous to you or society? Nope. I don't see a single similarity there. Not one. View Quote So in gist, the .gov is not regulating anything, but pushing its use improperly. |
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That is still exactly the argument, and dr's aren't required to do that because the labeling approval states that the drug is safe for long term use. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I thought the argument was - opiates work great for short term pain relief, like the first couple days after a surgery, but over a longer term, the patient develops a tolerance. To provide the same level of relief, the patient has to take ever increasing dosages. Over the longer term, the patients become opiate addicts because they are ingesting relatively large amounts of opiates. As a result, according to the argument, the trade off here for the long term pain relief is become both an opiate addict and potentially suffer the health consequences of using large quantities of opiates each and every day. If that is in fact the trade off, then the Doctors need to be telling people that up front, before they begin taking opiates over an extended period. |
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I think what has happened is the street narcotics has gotten out of hand and the government is over reacting and punishing lawful opiod users.
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The whole "opioid crisis" is another stupid left-wing manufactured propaganda piece foisted on the ill-informed and dimwitted by the Democrat Party. It's no different than them focusing on firearms instead of the underlying problem (bad people doing bad stuff). The underlying problem [in the "opioid crisis"] is addiction. If you eliminated all opioids today the addicts would just transition to something else (more than likely meth, cocaine, alcohol, etc.). People need to stop being so gullible and focusing on the inanimate "thing" and instead focus on the underlying behavior. View Quote |
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I think I am grossly misreading this thread. Is OP pointing out that the government purposefully mislabeled these drugs? That is how I read it. So in gist, the .gov is not regulating anything, but pushing its use improperly. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Massive government over regulation of a substance or inanimate object that is perceived to be dangerous to you or society? Nope. I don't see a single similarity there. Not one. So in gist, the .gov is not regulating anything, but pushing its use improperly. |
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Yes, big pharma paid big money to influence a labeling change (bride, pay to play, however you want to describe it) in order to sell more drugs, and the FDA was complicit in doing so. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Massive government over regulation of a substance or inanimate object that is perceived to be dangerous to you or society? Nope. I don't see a single similarity there. Not one. So in gist, the .gov is not regulating anything, but pushing its use improperly. |
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I am in no pain and have no injury It's interesting that when drugs are discussed anyone in favor of less regulation is assumed to be a user. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So, what would you have someone who is in excruciating pain and has found an opioid that works for them, take? Just tough it out with some ibuprofen? "Oh, you have 5 crushed disks and constant nerve pain? Well, we can't have you taking an opioid. You might get addicted. Much better for you to live in agonizing pain so we feel better about ourselves". For every person like you, there are several others who are getting Medicaid to buy them so they can sell them to junkies. The doctors can’t deny the patients the prescription because they will get bad ratings from the junkies, which severely affects their standing with both private and public insurance. The doctors are in a catch 22. Long term opioid prescriptions just cover up the problem. You still have 5 crushed vertebrae. No insurance company wants to pay for a real fix for the problem because it’s cheaper to just cover it up with OxyContin. Drying up the supply of pills just covers up the addition problem. Existing opioid addicts will find opioid come hell or high water, but the new batch of addicts growing up will just find a new drug to get high. No matter what is done, innocent people are going to get fucked while the cartels rake it in. It's interesting that when drugs are discussed anyone in favor of less regulation is assumed to be a user. |
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Quoted: Yes, big pharma paid big money to influence a labeling change (bride, pay to play, however you want to describe it) in order to sell more drugs, and the FDA was complicit in doing so. View Quote The .gov is not handing out more assurances to protect 2A freedoms, or positively "labeling gun owners"/ so I see no allegory. If the .gov is understood by so many here in the past and present putting drugs in play to suppress a group, what are we waiting for? |
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Quoted: ROFL. Then you know a week-willed individual who probably had compulsion issues anyway. I am calling bullshit on all of these "my buddy had his appendix removed and was sucking dick for heroin 48 hours later" stories. View Quote |
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There are a handful of people in this thread talking about personally needing their pain meds every day. Ever hear of the term functioning alcoholic? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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lol The opiod crisis, just like the obesity crisis, is the result of human nature, nothing else. It's not the government's "fault" it's not the FDA's "fault" - it the fault of peoples' choices. |
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I love how it's big pharma's fault that junkies are on the streets snorting pills or graduating to injecting heroin.
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This. "Is the FDA at fault" is the kind of mindset that caused me to go to the pharmacy yesterday and not be able to refill a prescription until this morning. Because it's scheduled (not an opiate) and I have 4 pills left. If I travel toward the end of a bottle, I'll need to secure "special authorization" from my Dr to get a refill a few days early. Fucking idiocy. View Quote |
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The whole "opioid crisis" is another stupid left-wing manufactured propaganda piece foisted on the ill-informed and dimwitted by the Democrat Party. It's no different than them focusing on firearms instead of the underlying problem (bad people doing bad stuff). The underlying problem [in the "opioid crisis"] is addiction. If you eliminated all opioids today the addicts would just transition to something else (more than likely meth, cocaine, alcohol, etc.). People need to stop being so gullible and focusing on the inanimate "thing" and instead focus on the underlying behavior. The frequent long term use of opiates to manage pain is creating addicts. Creating addicts. Taking people that were not addicted to opiates, and via long term use, they become addicted. Its basically nothing like firearms. Its not bad people doing bad stuff. Its people in pain, following their doctor's orders, and in a few months, becoming addicted to opiates. My mother in law was addicted to opiates at the end of her life. She was taking a huge amount of Oxy to get thru the day. She was not a bad person. Just an old women with major health/back issues. She died in her mid-80's, after numerous issues associated with long term opiate use. But, the strategy for her was palliative care. Addiction was part of the trade off for her quality of life for the last two or three years. This same thing is happening to young people. People in their 20's and 30's. Now facing a lifetime of opiate addiction. |
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I love how it's big pharma's fault that junkies are on the streets snorting pills or graduating to injecting heroin. View Quote Yes, some of these people do suffer from chronic pain and the meds help them. And there are a whole lot more who have become dependent on them for no other reason than it being a highly addictive long term prescription. |
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Um, needing pain meds every day might be because they are junkies, or maybe they have severe chronic pain and the pain meds are what allows them to function. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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lol The opiod crisis, just like the obesity crisis, is the result of human nature, nothing else. It's not the government's "fault" it's not the FDA's "fault" - it the fault of peoples' choices. |
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No. I don't think you all are following this, at all. The frequent long term use of opiates to manage pain is creating addicts. Creating addicts. Taking people that were not addicted to opiates, and via long term use, they become addicted. Its basically nothing like firearms. Its not bad people doing bad stuff. Its people in pain, following their doctor's orders, and in a few months, becoming addicted to opiates. My mother in law was addicted to opiates at the end of her life. She was taking a huge amount of Oxy to get thru the day. She was not a bad person. Just an old women with major health/back issues. She died in her mid-80's, after numerous issues associated with long term opiate use. But, the strategy for her was palliative care. Addiction was part of the trade off for her quality of life for the last two or three years. This same thing is happening to young people. People in their 20's and 30's. Now facing a lifetime of opiate addiction. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The whole "opioid crisis" is another stupid left-wing manufactured propaganda piece foisted on the ill-informed and dimwitted by the Democrat Party. It's no different than them focusing on firearms instead of the underlying problem (bad people doing bad stuff). The underlying problem [in the "opioid crisis"] is addiction. If you eliminated all opioids today the addicts would just transition to something else (more than likely meth, cocaine, alcohol, etc.). People need to stop being so gullible and focusing on the inanimate "thing" and instead focus on the underlying behavior. The frequent long term use of opiates to manage pain is creating addicts. Creating addicts. Taking people that were not addicted to opiates, and via long term use, they become addicted. Its basically nothing like firearms. Its not bad people doing bad stuff. Its people in pain, following their doctor's orders, and in a few months, becoming addicted to opiates. My mother in law was addicted to opiates at the end of her life. She was taking a huge amount of Oxy to get thru the day. She was not a bad person. Just an old women with major health/back issues. She died in her mid-80's, after numerous issues associated with long term opiate use. But, the strategy for her was palliative care. Addiction was part of the trade off for her quality of life for the last two or three years. This same thing is happening to young people. People in their 20's and 30's. Now facing a lifetime of opiate addiction. |
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I had thought that .gov cutting back on pain meds *created* the opioid crisis....
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I love how it's big pharma's fault that junkies are on the streets snorting pills or graduating to injecting heroin. I guarantee the vast majority of addicts didn't come from legitimate medical use channels. It's a tiny piece of the pie and there are other medications (not opiates) that get prescribed for a myriad of things that can be addictive, it's just something that needs to be discussed between you and your doctor. |
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