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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:08:04 PM EST
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Who says Progressivism had been good? You know who the Progressives of the 20th century have been? The Statists. All Statists. Wilson, Mussolini, Lenin,Stalin, Hitler, etc... I bet you are conflating 'Progress' with 'Progressivism'... You know who showed up in this thread defending FB? All the resident 'Statists'.... Wanting to regulate Facebook by any means possible is Statist. |
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:08:15 PM EST
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Who says Progressivism had been good? You know who the Progressives of the 20th century have been? The Statists. All Statists. Wilson, Mussolini, Lenin,Stalin, Hitler, etc... I bet you are conflating 'Progress' with 'Progressivism'... You know who showed up in this thread defending FB? All the resident 'Statists'.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol, "the communists are the real fascists". Socialists/communists, are indeed cut from the same cloth as fascists. You know who showed up in this thread defending FB? All the resident 'Statists'.... It is fucking uncanny. |
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:09:07 PM EST
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Who says Progressivism had been good? You know who the Progressives of the 20th century have been? The Statists. All Statists. Wilson, Mussolini, Lenin,Stalin, Hitler, etc... I bet you are conflating 'Progress' with 'Progressivism'... You know who showed up in this thread defending FB? All the resident 'Statists'.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:09:49 PM EST
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You people and your undying attempts to equate Nazis and Marxists are adorable. Their methods may have been vaguely analogous but their goals could not be more diametrically opposed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who says Progressivism had been good? You know who the Progressives of the 20th century have been? The Statists. All Statists. Wilson, Mussolini, Lenin,Stalin, Hitler, etc... I bet you are conflating 'Progress' with 'Progressivism'... You know who showed up in this thread defending FB? All the resident 'Statists'.... |
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:10:32 PM EST
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Hold on, I am not defending Facebook, I am defending the Ruling, which is correct. Facebook is not a Public forum. Constitutional law tells us this. That doesn't mean they aren't a shit, socialist, evil company. Wanting to regulate Facebook by any means possible is Statist. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who says Progressivism had been good? You know who the Progressives of the 20th century have been? The Statists. All Statists. Wilson, Mussolini, Lenin,Stalin, Hitler, etc... I bet you are conflating 'Progress' with 'Progressivism'... You know who showed up in this thread defending FB? All the resident 'Statists'.... Wanting to regulate Facebook by any means possible is Statist. |
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:10:58 PM EST
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Correct. The Constitution is a living document and can and should be modified for thing the Founders couldn’t imagine. Listen to yourself. However, that leaves the problem of Facebook dominating the new forum, the global private forum, and there is no competition. I believe in a Strict reading of the Constitution, but it doesn't give a good long term answer here. But I will live with that for the bigger Constitutional picture. |
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:12:08 PM EST
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Well, that was already true. They aren't held liable for what is said and done on their platform. |
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:12:23 PM EST
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No, the difference is that you bought into the lies of communism. In the end, when the communists seize the means of production, they'll snuff out the revolutionaries, because they can't have tried and tested revolutionaries challenging the new status quo. I know, I know, it'll be different this time, because people like you are involved in making sure it's done right. When in fact, if you and your fellow travelers are successful, that thought will be the second to last thing that goes through your head. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol, "the communists are the real fascists". Socialists/communists, are indeed cut from the same cloth as fascists. In the end, when the communists seize the means of production, they'll snuff out the revolutionaries, because they can't have tried and tested revolutionaries challenging the new status quo. I know, I know, it'll be different this time, because people like you are involved in making sure it's done right. When in fact, if you and your fellow travelers are successful, that thought will be the second to last thing that goes through your head. |
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:12:40 PM EST
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Socialize it, then regulate it under the first Amendment. Fire everyone, hire new gov. employees to run it and give them, from top to bottom the same wage, let's say, $10.50 an hour. Tax Zuckerberg into oblivion for reasons Profit? errr, socialism?   THIS is why I come here! BRILLIANT ... dear Senator Fineswine, it has come to my attention ... |
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:13:51 PM EST
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TAXATION.IS.THEFT Taxation.Is.Slavery Stew on that! |
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:14:00 PM EST
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Hold on, I am not defending Facebook, I am defending the Ruling, which is correct. Facebook is not a Public forum. Constitutional law tells us this. That doesn't mean they aren't a shit, socialist, evil company. Wanting to regulate Facebook by any means possible is Statist. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who says Progressivism had been good? You know who the Progressives of the 20th century have been? The Statists. All Statists. Wilson, Mussolini, Lenin,Stalin, Hitler, etc... I bet you are conflating 'Progress' with 'Progressivism'... You know who showed up in this thread defending FB? All the resident 'Statists'.... Wanting to regulate Facebook by any means possible is Statist. |
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:14:14 PM EST
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You people and your undying attempts to equate Nazis and Marxists are adorable. Their methods may have been vaguely analogous but their goals could not be more diametrically opposed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who says Progressivism had been good? You know who the Progressives of the 20th century have been? The Statists. All Statists. Wilson, Mussolini, Lenin,Stalin, Hitler, etc... I bet you are conflating 'Progress' with 'Progressivism'... You know who showed up in this thread defending FB? All the resident 'Statists'.... Everybody subjected to either system wallows in garbage unless they're ones sitting on the top of the garbage heap. |
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:14:16 PM EST
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Diametrically opposed how?. Both Anti-Capitalist. Both having a controlled economy. Both singing the praises of collectivism over the individual. Both saying the State above all else? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who says Progressivism had been good? You know who the Progressives of the 20th century have been? The Statists. All Statists. Wilson, Mussolini, Lenin,Stalin, Hitler, etc... I bet you are conflating 'Progress' with 'Progressivism'... You know who showed up in this thread defending FB? All the resident 'Statists'.... Luckily the good guys won that battle. |
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:17:12 PM EST
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The solution to Facebook is not to use it. 
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:17:30 PM EST
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Communism is intent on wiping on Western white civilization and the Nazis were standing in the way. Luckily the good guys won that battle. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who says Progressivism had been good? You know who the Progressives of the 20th century have been? The Statists. All Statists. Wilson, Mussolini, Lenin,Stalin, Hitler, etc... I bet you are conflating 'Progress' with 'Progressivism'... You know who showed up in this thread defending FB? All the resident 'Statists'.... Luckily the good guys won that battle. |
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:18:02 PM EST
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Lol, freedom for whom exactly? The Founding Fathers, the heroes of the American Right, were nothing but proto-Nazis. They talked a good game about freedom but they were unabashed white nationalists, they oppressed women and allowed the existence of slavery, the society that created the United States Constitution was profoundly immoral and that's why it needs to be deconstructed and replaced, along with those that prop it up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:20:02 PM EST
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The people arguing against government regulation are "statists"? lol Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol, "the communists are the real fascists". Socialists/communists, are indeed cut from the same cloth as fascists. You know who showed up in this thread defending FB? All the resident 'Statists'.... |
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:20:23 PM EST
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Communists are never good guys. Mass murdering thieves of human agency. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who says Progressivism had been good? You know who the Progressives of the 20th century have been? The Statists. All Statists. Wilson, Mussolini, Lenin,Stalin, Hitler, etc... I bet you are conflating 'Progress' with 'Progressivism'... You know who showed up in this thread defending FB? All the resident 'Statists'.... Luckily the good guys won that battle. |
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:21:14 PM EST
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Communism is intent on wiping on Western white civilization and the Nazis were standing in the way. Luckily the good guys won that battle. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who says Progressivism had been good? You know who the Progressives of the 20th century have been? The Statists. All Statists. Wilson, Mussolini, Lenin,Stalin, Hitler, etc... I bet you are conflating 'Progress' with 'Progressivism'... You know who showed up in this thread defending FB? All the resident 'Statists'.... Luckily the good guys won that battle. But just so you are not taken out of context. Are you calling for the extermination of White men, especially in the United States? |
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:21:21 PM EST
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Well, that was already true. They aren't held liable for what is said and done on their platform. All the same shit they were known for is all over facebook and they get a pass. Mostly because facebook is lifelog. |
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:21:22 PM EST
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Freedom that can only be obtained through deferral regulation. BRILLIANT!!! I have no problem with Facebook and others having that sort of control on a local network, but if they want to tap into the public internet. Then there should be rules to follow. Simple as that. |
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:21:54 PM EST
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They've exploited a position granted by exclusion from regulating agencies as a mass media provider. They are not apolitical. They need to be stripped of protections if they are going to promote a political agenda. |
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:22:03 PM EST
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Fuck cultural communism. In the ass. With a baseball bat. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:22:08 PM EST
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:22:44 PM EST
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You've never argued against the state in any Mueller/ Steele dossier thread. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:23:02 PM EST
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What a ruling. She said they are not a forum. That means they cannot ask for forum protection, and they are more like a publisher. Fine. They can be a publisher and be subject to the rules for publishers.
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:23:27 PM EST
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I didn't say that. I am saying there is no good answer, other then Facebook isn't a Public forum by a strict definition of the Constitution, which is the only current answer. However, that leaves the problem of Facebook dominating the new forum, the global private forum, and there is no competition. I believe in a Strict reading of the Constitution, but it doesn't give a good long term answer here. But I will live with that for the bigger Constitutional picture. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Correct. The Constitution is a living document and can and should be modified for thing the Founders couldn’t imagine. Listen to yourself. However, that leaves the problem of Facebook dominating the new forum, the global private forum, and there is no competition. I believe in a Strict reading of the Constitution, but it doesn't give a good long term answer here. But I will live with that for the bigger Constitutional picture.  . No principle is universally true.
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:24:37 PM EST
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Wanting to regulate Facebook by any means possible is Statist. We live in a Constitutional Republic. Majority rules, but the state is there to keep the majority's whims from crushing the rights of the minority. Capitalism is the most fundamentally democratic method of ordering our economy, but it's still subject to the same foibles of a purely democratic politics. Namely, mob rule. So the state is there to keep the majority's whims from crushing the rights of the minority. It isn't perfect, we're only human after all, but it beats the hell out of command economies enforced at the point of a gun or pure democratic might/majority makes it right. In short, Facebook should be regulated to allow competing political points of view as a condition for being permitted to do business in our country using the infrastructure built by our taxes, laboring and developing it's business in the business environment that we fostered and nurtured, much in the same way they could be forced to allow African-Americans to use their website if they chose to ban black folks for whatever stupid reason they might have. |
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:24:43 PM EST
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You've never argued against the state in any Mueller/ Steele dossier thread. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:24:58 PM EST
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That's how wars work, not all wars are external, sometimes the greatest threats are internal and they must be fought the same as an outside invader. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who says Progressivism had been good? You know who the Progressives of the 20th century have been? The Statists. All Statists. Wilson, Mussolini, Lenin,Stalin, Hitler, etc... I bet you are conflating 'Progress' with 'Progressivism'... You know who showed up in this thread defending FB? All the resident 'Statists'.... Luckily the good guys won that battle. |
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:25:03 PM EST
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LOL. My you really have a incomplete knowledge of history. But just so you are not taken out of context. Are you calling for the extermination of White men, especially in the United States? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who says Progressivism had been good? You know who the Progressives of the 20th century have been? The Statists. All Statists. Wilson, Mussolini, Lenin,Stalin, Hitler, etc... I bet you are conflating 'Progress' with 'Progressivism'... You know who showed up in this thread defending FB? All the resident 'Statists'.... Luckily the good guys won that battle. But just so you are not taken out of context. Are you calling for the extermination of White men, especially in the United States? 
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:25:57 PM EST
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I'm beyond that. See if you can own this: Taxation.Is.Slavery Stew on that! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:26:10 PM EST
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Well, it is pretty much a goat rodeo. Napster, Backpage and Silkroad have been taken out. All the same shit they were known for is all over facebook and they get a pass. Mostly because facebook is lifelog. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, that was already true. They aren't held liable for what is said and done on their platform. All the same shit they were known for is all over facebook and they get a pass. Mostly because facebook is lifelog. |
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:26:24 PM EST
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How is Facebook public property or domain? |
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:26:54 PM EST
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I know exactly what the end state will look like and it's worth it to eliminate the evils of western white civilization. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Lol, "the communists are the real fascists". Socialists/communists, are indeed cut from the same cloth as fascists. In the end, when the communists seize the means of production, they'll snuff out the revolutionaries, because they can't have tried and tested revolutionaries challenging the new status quo. I know, I know, it'll be different this time, because people like you are involved in making sure it's done right. When in fact, if you and your fellow travelers are successful, that thought will be the second to last thing that goes through your head. 
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:27:27 PM EST
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So, what the judge is saying is that libel and slander suits can move forward against Facecrook?
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:28:23 PM EST
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I don't have to, it's already happening.
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Who says Progressivism had been good? You know who the Progressives of the 20th century have been? The Statists. All Statists. Wilson, Mussolini, Lenin,Stalin, Hitler, etc... I bet you are conflating 'Progress' with 'Progressivism'... You know who showed up in this thread defending FB? All the resident 'Statists'.... Luckily the good guys won that battle. But just so you are not taken out of context. Are you calling for the extermination of White men, especially in the United States?
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:28:23 PM EST
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You are misunderstanding. Facebook and similar media were granted immunity from lawsuits as the publisher over content on their sites because they were considered de facto public fora. This is acknowledgment that they are not acting like public fora. That should mean they lose their immunity. Will it? It is an opening for DOJ to go after them. |
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:29:22 PM EST
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So we don’t have to be them to beat them? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:29:55 PM EST
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Holy non sequitur, Batman... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:30:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, it is pretty much a goat rodeo. Napster, Backpage and Silkroad have been taken out. All the same shit they were known for is all over facebook and they get a pass. Mostly because facebook is lifelog. |
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:31:42 PM EST
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Fine, but do it correctly or not at all. Trying to argue they are a public forum is the wrong way to do it. Use Data Privacy violations, Anti-Trust, or even Utility regulations. Don't claim they are a Public Forum, because they are not, and it has sweeping repercussions. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They've exploited a position granted by exclusion from regulating agencies as a mass media provider. They are not apolitical. They need to be stripped of protections if they are going to promote a political agenda. |
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:31:47 PM EST
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So you are for the physical extermination of conservative white men? I mean you are in support of them being murdered simply because they have a differing ideology than you? Is this limited to a certain age? is it limited to just the men or the women also. How about children, both male and female? I mean don't beat around the bush. If you support it say so.
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:32:32 PM EST
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So many closet statists here. Wow. |
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:34:15 PM EST
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Don't have to do any of that, it's happening organically via demographics. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So you are for the physical extermination of conservative white men? I mean you are in support of them being murdered simply because they have a differing ideology than you? Is this limited to a certain age? is it limited to just the men or the women also. How about children, both male and female? I mean don't beat around the bush. If you support it say so. |
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:34:37 PM EST
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Do you think businesses should be able to obtain indefinite leases to use all public property and enforce their own rules and regulations on public property to discriminate against free speech, etc? I have no problem with Facebook and others having that sort of control on a local network, but if they want to tap into the public internet. Then there should be rules to follow. Simple as that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Freedom that can only be obtained through deferral regulation. BRILLIANT!!! I have no problem with Facebook and others having that sort of control on a local network, but if they want to tap into the public internet. Then there should be rules to follow. Simple as that. If you’re ok with paying the taxes to make Alex Jones and Facebook submit to the proposed regulation, tell me about your regulation. Until then it’s inconsistency favoring one side or the other. You know, government playing politics. |
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:36:32 PM EST
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You need to listen to the Antifa type podcasts. This is some ugly shit. There's some really twisted logic (it's not logic). They don't see debate or reciprocity as values, just exploitable angles to attack from. They are all bikelock professor. |
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:37:26 PM EST
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Okay I see you're just slinging buzzwords as insults irrespective of their actual meaning. Carry on, I guess. |
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:38:01 PM EST
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Don't have to do any of that, it's happening organically via demographics. |
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Posted: 7/21/2019 4:38:08 PM EST
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So you are for the physical extermination of conservative white men? I mean you are in support of them being murdered simply because they have a differing ideology than you? Is this limited to a certain age? is it limited to just the men or the women also. How about children, both male and female? I mean don't beat around the bush. If you support it say so. |
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