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Posted: 5/23/2024 9:34:16 PM EST
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Posted: 5/23/2024 9:36:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sleek bird. The first time I saw a B2 flying in person was awe inspiring. It was the first time it ever did a fly-by at the Dayton air show. Even though I knew what it was, seeing that black Dorito shaped hole in the sky was almost hard for my brain to process. I saw one at Edwards in ‘85. Was sneaking with my GF in my MG, in the desert. It was night, dark but not totally dark. It flew over, it was darker than the night. Did hear it, though it wasn’t your typical jet howl. Had no idea what it was at the time, but living on Edwards back then you accreting seeing crazy stuff. And there was. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 9:40:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The F-22's stealth capability is better than most. If the Chinese system works and is deployed (lab testing and operational systems are not the same thing), this would almost certainly limit the B-21's usefulness B-2s, and by extension B-21s, are not design constrained by the need to dogfight. Both are far stealthier than a 22 or 35. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 9:46:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: B-2s, and by extension B-21s, are not design constrained by the need to dogfight. Both are far stealthier than a 22 or 35. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The F-22's stealth capability is better than most. If the Chinese system works and is deployed (lab testing and operational systems are not the same thing), this would almost certainly limit the B-21's usefulness B-2s, and by extension B-21s, are not design constrained by the need to dogfight. Both are far stealthier than a 22 or 35. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 9:49:34 PM EST
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Cool, build a lot more than 21 of them.
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Posted: 5/23/2024 9:50:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have zero clue. You wouldn't exactly need to blow it to smitherines to cause it to fail though, correct? Isn't it such a piece of shit it's at risk of failing without any Spec Ops intervention? I know skyscrapers are imploded with a shockingly small amount of ordinance. You’re telling about thousands of tonnes most likely. You won’t be keistering that in as a tourist. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 9:52:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think you’re right about this. Definitely a badass bomber but i think I would be a waste to not use it as a missile truck slinging AIM 260s. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It is much smaller. A little more than half the payload. But it's going to do much more than bomb. I think you’re right about this. Definitely a badass bomber but i think I would be a waste to not use it as a missile truck slinging AIM 260s. This paper argues for basically exactly that, using a B21 type aircraft as the future of air superiority. Stealth + long range sensors + a shitload of missiles. https://csbaonline.org/uploads/documents/Air-to-Air-Report-.pdf    We should be ordering 200+ B21's to use a bombers, fighters, and possibly stealth refueling platforms. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 9:55:20 PM EST
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Looks difficult to see out of. Probably has plenty of cameras to make up for it.
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Posted: 5/23/2024 9:57:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: yea, ok.. Half of me wants to see how modern stealth does against modern radars and the other half of me is petrified to see it play out. I think i just want to know if the hypes true and if its been money well spent. Truth is a ground based radar would be dead for thinking of turning itself on. Those are much larger and more capable than what you can fit in the nose of an aircraft. SEAD is a thing. F35s can get closer to the radar and shoot at them before the radar can get target grade locks on the aircraft and shoot back. From there, just running the radar is the signal the missile is locking onto. Also, check out what the F35s radar is capable of. It’s not limited to detection, and it’s EW capabilities is impressive. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 9:58:34 PM EST
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I hear it flying over from time to time. Always an hour or two after sun down, and a new sound that started soon after the delivery.
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Posted: 5/23/2024 10:06:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow, I would've guessed that tidbit recipe-worthy. Although, if only counterforce options are available in the SIOP... The SIOP hasn't existed for over a decade. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 10:10:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Man has always gotten his inspiration from nature, for the entirety of humanity. The "beak" at the nose is designed that way for low observable and aerodynamic purposes. Its resemblance to a bird is purely coincidental. Birds have not evolved based on their radar low observability characteristics. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 10:17:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We should be ordering 200+ B21's to use a bombers, fighters, and possibly stealth refueling platforms. Yet again...there is a reason that "missile truck" is neither a role or mission in combat airpower, regardless of what John Stillion -- who was in the USAF for 8 years and lost his access to classified air tactics and weapon and sensor capabilities in 1992 -- postulates in a thinktank paper. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 10:21:08 PM EST
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The skin of an F-35 looks in places like organic technology. Like the airplane has muscles.
It does not use any organic components and it certainly doesn't have muscle mass. The helmet can make the pilot look like some kind of science fiction alien insectoid entity. They are not, at least not any I know of. Its kinda funny how much a design driven by published requirements, built to fulfill a government contract can wind up looking like some strange living creature. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 10:23:39 PM EST
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Posted: 5/23/2024 10:28:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yet again...there is a reason that "missile truck" is neither a role or mission in combat airpower Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We should be ordering 200+ B21's to use a bombers, fighters, and possibly stealth refueling platforms. Yet again...there is a reason that "missile truck" is neither a role or mission in combat airpower What is the reason? |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 10:50:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is the reason? Short version: it does not make tactical sense. If it did...it would be part of current tactics. Does not negate the possibility that it might be part of future tactics depending on the development of weapons, sensors, EA, and RCS between allied and peer adversaries...and the B-21's capabilities aren't such that they'd trigger such a role/mission change. Been discussed several times before in GD, so you can search if you want the full discussion. Here's a screencap from one of the previous threads:  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 10:53:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The "beak" at the nose is designed that way for low observable and aerodynamic purposes. Its resemblance to a bird is purely coincidental. Birds have not evolved based on their radar low observability characteristics. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Man has always gotten his inspiration from nature, for the entirety of humanity. The "beak" at the nose is designed that way for low observable and aerodynamic purposes. Its resemblance to a bird is purely coincidental. Birds have not evolved based on their radar low observability characteristics. False. It helps them evade vampire bat sonar. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 10:59:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: False. It helps them evade vampire bat sonar. Never mind the fact that the B-2/B-21 "beaks" only resemble a bird's proboscis when viewed from the side.... |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 10:59:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd suggest you go look up the stuff done and made in the cities that are directly in the path of that.  There is a reason that the history of china is shaped by that river and the floods on it. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 11:01:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Never mind the fact that the B-2/B-21 "beaks" only resemble a bird's proboscis when viewed from the side.... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: False. It helps them evade vampire bat sonar. Never mind the fact that the B-2/B-21 "beaks" only resemble a bird's proboscis when viewed from the side.... Oblique and right angle is their favorite attack vector. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 11:07:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oblique and right angle is their favorite attack vector. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: False. It helps them evade vampire bat sonar. Never mind the fact that the B-2/B-21 "beaks" only resemble a bird's proboscis when viewed from the side.... Oblique and right angle is their favorite attack vector. I'm certain there is a vast depth of bat-predation-on-birds scholarship that is fascinating reference material for Northrop engineers. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 11:10:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd suggest you go look up the stuff done and made in the cities that are directly in the path of that. There is a reason that the history of china is shaped by that river and the floods on it. Sorry, but flooding everyone of those cities will not cripple China. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 11:13:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm certain there is a vast depth of bat-predation-on-birds scholarship that is fascinating reference material for Northrop engineers. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: False. It helps them evade vampire bat sonar. Never mind the fact that the B-2/B-21 "beaks" only resemble a bird's proboscis when viewed from the side.... Oblique and right angle is their favorite attack vector. I'm certain there is a vast depth of bat-predation-on-birds scholarship that is fascinating reference material for Northrop engineers. It’s part of the day 1 onboarding material.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 11:15:31 PM EST
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Posted: 5/23/2024 11:19:02 PM EST
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It's funny that Lockheed originally must the b2 contract because they went with a smaller plane. Even though Lockheed had better radar evasion it held less capacity therefore airforce considered more sorties a higher risk.
Years later here we are.. lol it's smaller |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 11:19:36 PM EST
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How soon before we see an Iranian or Chinese copy with 1/2" tall rivet heads all over it?
And 50% bigger? |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 11:22:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's funny that Lockheed originally must the b2 contract because they went with a smaller plane. Even though Lockheed had better radar evasion it held less capacity therefore airforce considered more sorties a higher risk. Years later here we are.. lol it's smaller Strategic bombing weapons, tactics, and peer threat capabilities have changed since the late 1970s when the ATB RFP was released and the AF made it's design/manufacturer selection. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 11:27:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've spent days traveling along that river including going through the 3 Gorges Dam and locks. I've also lived in and travelled extensively around China. Sorry, but flooding everyone of those cities will not cripple China. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'd suggest you go look up the stuff done and made in the cities that are directly in the path of that. There is a reason that the history of china is shaped by that river and the floods on it. Sorry, but flooding everyone of those cities will not cripple China. Toss all those cities and that production and the military and the power plants in the floodplane for that river literally in the soup and what do you think the CCP would be doing on the world stage? They'd be so busy dealing with the economic and physical hit from that ... that they'd be far far into their birth rate collaps before they got back to anthing like pre-flood-levels; not to mention the loss of 90-120 TWH from the generators in that dam itself. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 11:34:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Toss all those cities and that production and the military and the power plants in the floodplane for that river literally in the soup and what do you think the CCP would be doing on the world stage? They'd be so busy dealing with the economic and physical hit from that ... that they'd be far far into their birth rate collaps before they got back to anthing like pre-flood-levels; not to mention the loss of 90-120 TWH from the generators in that dam itself. And what stops them from using a full scale strategic nuclear response? Some American weapon system that doesn't officially exist but when things go active will swing into action and stop a whole bunch of cities from going bye bye? The nature of the system precludes a "hit here to win war." Sort of target. Unless Comrade Xi is able to centralize power far, far more than he has already. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 11:40:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And what stops them from using a full scale strategic nuclear response? Some American weapon system that doesn't officially exist but when things go active will swing into action and stop a whole bunch of cities from going bye bye? The nature of the system precludes a "hit here to win war." Sort of target. Unless Comrade Xi is able to centralize power far, far more than he has already. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Toss all those cities and that production and the military and the power plants in the floodplane for that river literally in the soup and what do you think the CCP would be doing on the world stage? They'd be so busy dealing with the economic and physical hit from that ... that they'd be far far into their birth rate collaps before they got back to anthing like pre-flood-levels; not to mention the loss of 90-120 TWH from the generators in that dam itself. And what stops them from using a full scale strategic nuclear response? Some American weapon system that doesn't officially exist but when things go active will swing into action and stop a whole bunch of cities from going bye bye? The nature of the system precludes a "hit here to win war." Sort of target. Unless Comrade Xi is able to centralize power far, far more than he has already. You'll note I didn't say it was a good idea, I just said that it would gut them. I've read that they consider any attack on that dam as being worthy of a nuclear response. They would have to be threatening the existence of a nation or culture for someone to think the tradeoff would be worth it. IDK but I suspect the taiwanese just might be willing to do it if china came over in force. It's ludicrious that the gangsters running china are so scared of people having chinese culture successfully without CCP overlords... it really shows off their pathetic weakness culturally. |
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Posted: 5/23/2024 11:48:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You'll note I didn't say it was a good idea, I just said that it would gut them. I've read that they consider any attack on that dam as being worthy of a nuclear response. They would have to be threatening the existence of a nation or culture for someone to think the tradeoff would be worth it. IDK but I suspect the taiwanese just might be willing to do it if china came over in force. It's ludicrious that the gangsters running china are so scared of people having chinese culture successfully without CCP overlords... it really shows off their pathetic weakness culturally. What the CCP has done to China and the world is the greatest ongoing crime in the world today in my view. I know there is a metric fuck-ton of vicious competition for that title. But I think they win. What they have done is more than just destroying and molesting Chinese culture. It is an ongoing and concentrated effort to squeeze humanity itself right out of the bodies of everyone under their dominion. Nothing would please me more than to see them liquidated like the assholes in charge of Romania under communism. But no one right now has the nerve or resources to do that. Not anyone in China and for now not anyone in any other countries although I do expect this to change at some point. I wonder what the final tally will wind up being for indulging these monsters? General Turgidson in Dr Strangelove talking about "depending on the breaks." Comes to mind. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 12:16:45 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What the CCP has done to China and the world is the greatest ongoing crime in the world today in my view. I know there is a metric fuck-ton of vicious competition for that title. But I think they win. What they have done is more than just destroying and molesting Chinese culture. It is an ongoing and concentrated effort to squeeze humanity itself right out of the bodies of everyone under their dominion. Nothing would please me more than to see them liquidated like the assholes in charge of Romania under communism. But no one right now has the nerve or resources to do that. Not anyone in China and for now not anyone in any other countries although I do expect this to change at some point. I wonder what the final tally will wind up being for indulging these monsters? General Turgidson in Dr Strangelove talking about "depending on the breaks." Comes to mind. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You'll note I didn't say it was a good idea, I just said that it would gut them. I've read that they consider any attack on that dam as being worthy of a nuclear response. They would have to be threatening the existence of a nation or culture for someone to think the tradeoff would be worth it. IDK but I suspect the taiwanese just might be willing to do it if china came over in force. It's ludicrious that the gangsters running china are so scared of people having chinese culture successfully without CCP overlords... it really shows off their pathetic weakness culturally. What the CCP has done to China and the world is the greatest ongoing crime in the world today in my view. I know there is a metric fuck-ton of vicious competition for that title. But I think they win. What they have done is more than just destroying and molesting Chinese culture. It is an ongoing and concentrated effort to squeeze humanity itself right out of the bodies of everyone under their dominion. Nothing would please me more than to see them liquidated like the assholes in charge of Romania under communism. But no one right now has the nerve or resources to do that. Not anyone in China and for now not anyone in any other countries although I do expect this to change at some point. I wonder what the final tally will wind up being for indulging these monsters? General Turgidson in Dr Strangelove talking about "depending on the breaks." Comes to mind. We will have to keep surviving until they finally collapse under the weight of their corruption and incompetence. I wish nixon had never gone there, and we were the biggest raging idiots in the world for allowing the chinese communists to gain the position they had in the 30s-40s-50s. CKS was a piece of work, but we still did not have to let the commies steamroll china. From what I have seen (there are videos of this stuff) they have destroyed chinese culture so badly that you can literally kidnap children off of a crowded street in broad daylight and have the parents be shrieking for help and people will do their best to look away and get away. That is what a no-trust culture looks like. A few years back youtube was auto-censoring "gongfei." ETA: https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/26/21270290/youtube-deleting-comments-censorship-chinese-communist-party-ccp https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/youtube-ccp-comment-deletion-controversy |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 12:19:31 AM EST
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Narwhal! Narwhal!
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Posted: 5/24/2024 12:57:32 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's funny that Lockheed originally must the b2 contract because they went with a smaller plane. Even though Lockheed had better radar evasion it held less capacity therefore airforce considered more sorties a higher risk. Years later here we are.. lol it's smaller They want to be able to operate off more fields and fly farther. It makes sense. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 1:06:43 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Portable microwave ovens. Perfect for cooking hot pockets on the go. Quote HistoryQuoted: Portable microwave ovens. Perfect for cooking hot pockets on the go. Quoted: Quoted: Wouldn't a more reasonable way to do it be some kind of clandestine operation with some explosives planted near the base of the dam? I'm not an engineer but I do like seeing things blow up  Do you have any idea how much explosive this would take? Take two of my avatar and call me in the morning if symptoms persist. But they won't <<<<<<<<<<<<<< |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 1:06:59 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If pictures of the B21 give you an erection lasting longer than 4 hours, please call your doctor. I called but was put on hold. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 1:19:09 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Considering its only been tested on rice I find that highly speculative Take two of my avatar and call me in the morning if symptoms persist. But they won't <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Portable microwave ovens. Perfect for cooking hot pockets on the go. Quoted: Quoted: Wouldn't a more reasonable way to do it be some kind of clandestine operation with some explosives planted near the base of the dam? I'm not an engineer but I do like seeing things blow up Do you have any idea how much explosive this would take? Take two of my avatar and call me in the morning if symptoms persist. But they won't <<<<<<<<<<<<<< I had to reverse image search that and find the video it was from to know the dude in your avatar is pointing at the detonator.
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Posted: 5/24/2024 1:28:14 AM EST
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IDK but I suspect the taiwanese just might be willing to do it if china came over in force. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 3:11:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How long till the ukraine asks for one? it's one of the line items in the $61 billion. Classified, so you can't see it, of course. 2 of them, plus a spare. The Ukraine is the new proving ground for modern weapons. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 3:28:20 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Short version: it does not make tactical sense. If it did...it would be part of current tactics. Does not negate the possibility that it might be part of future tactics depending on the development of weapons, sensors, EA, and RCS between allied and peer adversaries...and the B-21's capabilities aren't such that they'd trigger such a role/mission change. Been discussed several times before in GD, so you can search if you want the full discussion. Here's a screencap from one of the previous threads: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/470117/Screen_Shot_2024-05-23_at_20_56_28_png-3221971.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What is the reason? Short version: it does not make tactical sense. If it did...it would be part of current tactics. Does not negate the possibility that it might be part of future tactics depending on the development of weapons, sensors, EA, and RCS between allied and peer adversaries...and the B-21's capabilities aren't such that they'd trigger such a role/mission change. Been discussed several times before in GD, so you can search if you want the full discussion. Here's a screencap from one of the previous threads: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/470117/Screen_Shot_2024-05-23_at_20_56_28_png-3221971.JPG Thank you. I guess for me, the question is, what aircraft other then the B21 is going to be able to deliver anti air missiles within the first island chain / inside china itself, given that US airbases in the 1st island chain region will be under nearly continuous missile threat from China? |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 3:36:57 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm genuinely curious if Taiwan would have the ability to successfully breach the damn in a single attack....and how much ordnance it would take. Quote HistoryQuoted: IDK but I suspect the taiwanese just might be willing to do it if china came over in force. I'm genuinely curious if Taiwan would have the ability to successfully breach the damn in a single attack....and how much ordnance it would take. Per google, its 40m thick reinforced concrete at its thinnest. A former Taiwanese official thought cruise missiles would barely scratch it. Previous 'dambusters' were gigantic warheads, against much smaller dams. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bouncing_bomb In the operational version of Upkeep, known by its manufacturer as "Vickers Type 464", the explosive charge was Torpex, originally designed for use as in torpedoes, to provide a longer explosive pulse for greater effect against underwater targets; the principal means of detonation was by three hydrostatic pistols, as used in depth charges, set to fire at a depth of 30 feet (9 m); and its overall weight was 9,250 lb (4,200 kg), of which 6,600 lb (3,000 kg) was Torpex. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 3:47:24 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thank you. I guess for me, the question is, what aircraft other then the B21 is going to be able to deliver anti air missiles within the first island chain / inside china itself, given that US airbases in the 1st island chain region will be under nearly continuous missile threat from China? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: What is the reason? Short version: it does not make tactical sense. If it did...it would be part of current tactics. Does not negate the possibility that it might be part of future tactics depending on the development of weapons, sensors, EA, and RCS between allied and peer adversaries...and the B-21's capabilities aren't such that they'd trigger such a role/mission change. Been discussed several times before in GD, so you can search if you want the full discussion. Here's a screencap from one of the previous threads: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/470117/Screen_Shot_2024-05-23_at_20_56_28_png-3221971.JPG Thank you. I guess for me, the question is, what aircraft other then the B21 is going to be able to deliver anti air missiles within the first island chain / inside china itself, given that US airbases in the 1st island chain region will be under nearly continuous missile threat from China? I suspect it’s too soon to comment on exactly how they’ll use the B-21 other than bombing. The presence of two small bays besides the large one likely indicate the ability to fire AAMs and almost certainly indicate a SEAD capability not present on subsonic bombers in many decades. USAF has always tried to have at least one strategic bomber capable of penetrating without escort and the B-21 is going to be that bomber. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 4:17:19 AM EST
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Posted: 5/24/2024 4:29:24 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I suspect it’s too soon to comment on exactly how they’ll use the B-21 other than bombing. The presence of two small bays besides the large one likely indicate the ability to fire AAMs and almost certainly indicate a SEAD capability not present on subsonic bombers in many decades. USAF has always tried to have at least one strategic bomber capable of penetrating without escort and the B-21 is going to be that bomber. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What is the reason? Short version: it does not make tactical sense. If it did...it would be part of current tactics. Does not negate the possibility that it might be part of future tactics depending on the development of weapons, sensors, EA, and RCS between allied and peer adversaries...and the B-21's capabilities aren't such that they'd trigger such a role/mission change. Been discussed several times before in GD, so you can search if you want the full discussion. Here's a screencap from one of the previous threads: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/470117/Screen_Shot_2024-05-23_at_20_56_28_png-3221971.JPG Thank you. I guess for me, the question is, what aircraft other then the B21 is going to be able to deliver anti air missiles within the first island chain / inside china itself, given that US airbases in the 1st island chain region will be under nearly continuous missile threat from China? I suspect it’s too soon to comment on exactly how they’ll use the B-21 other than bombing. The presence of two small bays besides the large one likely indicate the ability to fire AAMs and almost certainly indicate a SEAD capability not present on subsonic bombers in many decades. USAF has always tried to have at least one strategic bomber capable of penetrating without escort and the B-21 is going to be that bomber. This account mentions the possibility those sub-bays are for holding SiAW - Stand In Attack Weapon - which is a sort of 'anti everything on the ground' missile also developed by Northrop:  |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 5:18:13 AM EST
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The bay would almost certainly have similar dimensions to F-35 as a minimum, since all new developments in munitions are designed around that size constraint. We know it’ll have an advanced radar and expect advanced ECM. This thing is going to be a beast for SEAD.
The problem with “loyal wingman” is its range. Aircraft cost is driven heavily by size and building a wingman for an aircraft with a 6000NM range would be very expensive. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 5:35:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What the CCP has done to China and the world is the greatest ongoing crime in the world today in my view. I know there is a metric fuck-ton of vicious competition for that title. But I think they win. What they have done is more than just destroying and molesting Chinese culture. It is an ongoing and concentrated effort to squeeze humanity itself right out of the bodies of everyone under their dominion. Nothing would please me more than to see them liquidated like the assholes in charge of Romania under communism. But no one right now has the nerve or resources to do that. Not anyone in China and for now not anyone in any other countries although I do expect this to change at some point. I wonder what the final tally will wind up being for indulging these monsters? General Turgidson in Dr Strangelove talking about "depending on the breaks." Comes to mind. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You'll note I didn't say it was a good idea, I just said that it would gut them. I've read that they consider any attack on that dam as being worthy of a nuclear response. They would have to be threatening the existence of a nation or culture for someone to think the tradeoff would be worth it. IDK but I suspect the taiwanese just might be willing to do it if china came over in force. It's ludicrious that the gangsters running china are so scared of people having chinese culture successfully without CCP overlords... it really shows off their pathetic weakness culturally. What the CCP has done to China and the world is the greatest ongoing crime in the world today in my view. I know there is a metric fuck-ton of vicious competition for that title. But I think they win. What they have done is more than just destroying and molesting Chinese culture. It is an ongoing and concentrated effort to squeeze humanity itself right out of the bodies of everyone under their dominion. Nothing would please me more than to see them liquidated like the assholes in charge of Romania under communism. But no one right now has the nerve or resources to do that. Not anyone in China and for now not anyone in any other countries although I do expect this to change at some point. I wonder what the final tally will wind up being for indulging these monsters? General Turgidson in Dr Strangelove talking about "depending on the breaks." Comes to mind. My favorite part about that is Elena's last words were: “Look they are going to kill us like dogs. I don't believe this." And then they did. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 8:41:33 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The SIOP hasn't existed for over a decade. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wow, I would've guessed that tidbit recipe-worthy. Although, if only counterforce options are available in the SIOP... The SIOP hasn't existed for over a decade. TIL, thank-you. Huh, wonder when they changed the nomenclature? Anyway, the succesful project to rename it---I don't believe for one second that the US has gotten rid of default targeting options for the NCA in the insanely-unlikely event of the strategic deterrent being threatened---probably did give some O-6 their star. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 8:46:34 AM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm certain there is a vast depth of bat-predation-on-birds scholarship that is fascinating reference material for Northrop engineers. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: False. It helps them evade vampire bat sonar. Never mind the fact that the B-2/B-21 "beaks" only resemble a bird's proboscis when viewed from the side.... Oblique and right angle is their favorite attack vector. I'm certain there is a vast depth of bat-predation-on-birds scholarship that is fascinating reference material for Northrop engineers. Though hawks do eat bats. Which I didn't realize until I saw it in person. Houston has a bridge (Waugh Avenue over Buffalo Bayou) that is like the Dollar General version of the First and Congress Street Bridges in Austin, as far as the Mexican Freetail Bat colonies living underneath them. Around sunset, the bats leave en masse to go graze upon the sea of mosquitoes and other flying bugs you find in a swamp. The hawks sit up, on thermals from the roadways/vortices coming off the multiple highrises along the Bayou, and zoom down for dinner. |
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Posted: 5/24/2024 8:49:55 AM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Indeed. The B-21 is the most altruistic of America's strategic bomber assets. "To the B-21, dams have become symbols of the destruction of the natural world and of the corruption and arrogance of over-powerful and secretive corporations and governments. Dams have depleted fisheries, degraded river ecosystems, and altered recreational opportunities on nearly all of China's rivers. The B-21 seeks to restore natural balance to China's waterways." Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Do b21 eat dams or do they really just want to give dry soil down stream a drink. I think they are more well meaning and misunderstood Indeed. The B-21 is the most altruistic of America's strategic bomber assets. "To the B-21, dams have become symbols of the destruction of the natural world and of the corruption and arrogance of over-powerful and secretive corporations and governments. Dams have depleted fisheries, degraded river ecosystems, and altered recreational opportunities on nearly all of China's rivers. The B-21 seeks to restore natural balance to China's waterways." 
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