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Quoted: The more I see the more I like it. More practical than a car and larger than the Bronco Sport that it's based on. I'll probably buy one in a year or two. View Quote When you say bigger you mean other than the bed? |
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Watching some reviews on this thing and some dude was bashing his Ecoboost version pretty good. Little thing was doing 0-60 in 6.5s, the damn hybrid was under 8s. Be a neat daily beater to hand off to my son in a few yrs.
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Of course they're gonna option the shit out of them
Couple of xlt and one xl near seattle. None below $30k |
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Quoted: Watching some reviews on this thing and some dude was bashing his Ecoboost version pretty good. Little thing was doing 0-60 in 6.5s, the damn hybrid was under 8s. Be a neat daily beater to hand off to my son in a few yrs. View Quote |
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Quoted: Of course they're gonna option the shit out of them Couple of xlt and one xl near seattle. None below $30k View Quote Historically the middle trim options are the highest volume sellers with the budget and top trim being the slowest, so when you can only make so many I can see why they would put the ones most likely to sell on the lot first. |
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Have they said what the tax break on the electric one is yet?
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Quoted: Yet. If it were not for covidWorld supply issues, I was betting they were going to announce a plug in electric for 2023. But not yet. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: There’s no electric one available, is there a tax break for hybrids? Yet. If it were not for covidWorld supply issues, I was betting they were going to announce a plug in electric for 2023. But not yet. When they said the first one was a "full hybrid" I assumed that it was just electric with no gas motor. Just checked the website, it says the hybrid has a 13.8 gallon gas tank. Do we know what the tax break on that is? |
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Quoted: Historically the middle trim options are the highest volume sellers with the budget and top trim being the slowest, so when you can only make so many I can see why they would put the ones most likely to sell on the lot first. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Of course they're gonna option the shit out of them Couple of xlt and one xl near seattle. None below $30k Historically the middle trim options are the highest volume sellers with the budget and top trim being the slowest, so when you can only make so many I can see why they would put the ones most likely to sell on the lot first. That makes sense. You can order whatever you like anyway. Unfortunately you might not see it for a year. The options packages for this one really push you to the middle. The base model isn't bad for the price but it really is stripped and the available options are limited. The top one has a bunch of shit that you don't really need. The sweet spot is the middle one with all the option packages except for the luxury pack. |
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Quoted: When they said the first one was a "full hybrid" I assumed that it was just electric with no gas motor. Just checked the website, it says the hybrid has a 13.8 gallon gas tank. Do we know what the tax break on that is? View Quote I’ve never seen the term hybrid to describe a electric vehicle. The battery has to be a certain size to be eligible for a tax credit and most hybrids aren’t. Only the ones like the Toyota Prime’s and similar. I haven’t heard anything about these Mavericks being eligible. I assume it’s a similar setup to the escape hybrids which have been around a long time amd aren’t eligible except for the latest few years of plug ins (PHEV) |
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Quoted: When they said the first one was a "full hybrid" I assumed that it was just electric with no gas motor. Just checked the website, it says the hybrid has a 13.8 gallon gas tank. Do we know what the tax break on that is? View Quote The only hybrids that get tax credits are those that are considered plug in hybrids that can fully operate on electric for a small amount of time. The Maverick's current hybrid powertrain doesn't qualify. |
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Quoted: When they said the first one was a "full hybrid" I assumed that it was just electric with no gas motor. Just checked the website, it says the hybrid has a 13.8 gallon gas tank. Do we know what the tax break on that is? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: There’s no electric one available, is there a tax break for hybrids? Yet. If it were not for covidWorld supply issues, I was betting they were going to announce a plug in electric for 2023. But not yet. When they said the first one was a "full hybrid" I assumed that it was just electric with no gas motor. Just checked the website, it says the hybrid has a 13.8 gallon gas tank. Do we know what the tax break on that is? “Full hybrid” is a bit of an oxymoron. All hybrids are a combination of things by their very definition. |
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Quoted: When they said the first one was a "full hybrid" I assumed that it was just electric with no gas motor. Just checked the website, it says the hybrid has a 13.8 gallon gas tank. Do we know what the tax break on that is? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: There’s no electric one available, is there a tax break for hybrids? Yet. If it were not for covidWorld supply issues, I was betting they were going to announce a plug in electric for 2023. But not yet. When they said the first one was a "full hybrid" I assumed that it was just electric with no gas motor. Just checked the website, it says the hybrid has a 13.8 gallon gas tank. Do we know what the tax break on that is? Full hybrid just means it can travel short distances on electric alone. Non-full hybrids require the engine to be started at any point the car is being accelerated. Battery only no ICE vehicles are known as BEVs or Battery Electric Vehicles. |
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I read a couple reviews recently. If the hybrid had a decent AWD system, I'd be decently interested. A Maverick could likely do just about everything I do (or want to) with my Ridgeline. I don't have a camper trailer right now, but I may eventually want to get another. I think I'd go with a smaller, lighter popup, so the towing capacity of the Ecoboost Mav would likely do it. One review said someone from Ford stated they would keep an eye on demand, and maybe end up doing an AWD hybrid version.
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Quoted: I read a couple reviews recently. If the hybrid had a decent AWD system, I'd be decently interested. A Maverick could likely do just about everything I do (or want to) with my Ridgeline. I don't have a camper trailer right now, but I may eventually want to get another. I think I'd go with a smaller, lighter popup, so the towing capacity of the Ecoboost Mav would likely do it. One review said someone from Ford stated they would keep an eye on demand, and maybe end up doing an AWD hybrid version. View Quote I’m holding out for another year in the hopes that there is a hybrid AWD, I’m not interested in the Ecoboost if I’m going to lose 60% of the fuel economy. |
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Quoted: I’m holding out for another year in the hopes that there is a hybrid AWD, I’m not interested in the Ecoboost if I’m going to lose 60% of the fuel economy. View Quote Same here. except also because the car market is batshit insane right now. Hybrid AWD is what would make this thing perfect for me. I don't need crazy tow capacity. |
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Quoted: Diesel or gas... wouldn't matter to me. I would buy one. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Ford should make a regular cab long bed 4x4 diesel with manual locks/windows/trans and vinyl seats and floors for $25k. They would sell millions every year Diesel or gas... wouldn't matter to me. I would buy one. I would buy one. Damn right I would. |
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Quoted: Full hybrid just means it can travel short distances on electric alone. Non-full hybrids require the engine to be started at any point the car is being accelerated. Battery only no ICE vehicles are known as BEVs or Battery Electric Vehicles. View Quote So what are the non full hybrids as the main ones I am aware of like the Toyota and Ford will drive on battery alone for a short distance. Quoted: I’m holding out for another year in the hopes that there is a hybrid AWD, I’m not interested in the Ecoboost if I’m going to lose 60% of the fuel economy. View Quote Where did the 60% come from? I thought they were pretty close. |
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Quoted: So what are the non full hybrids as the main ones I am aware of like the Toyota and Ford will drive on battery alone for a short distance. Where did the 60% come from? I thought they were pretty close. View Quote The claim is 40mpg city with the hybrid, while the ecoboost will likely be closer to 20 with AWD. Highway driving will be pretty similar between the two as the hybrid powertrain isn't doing much. |
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I ordered one on June the 9th,,, not made yet..... I'll probably get it in Dec. or Jan.,, we'll see..... [ a loaded out Lariat ]
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There were 3 on a lot that I looked at this weekend. The window prices with options for them were roughly 25k XL, 28K XLT, and 35k for Lariat with all 3 being AWD. All were pre-sold so not able to test drive. My DD is a RAV4 so I’m used to a smaller vehicle and this was as comfortable or more for me. My RAV4 does most of what I want but I don’t like hauling trash etc in it. I don’t need a real truck for most of what I do, just something cheap on gas and comfortable. This will do everything my RAV4 does along with the ability to do a small of amount of hauling.
As far as looks, it was better than I expecting in person. I don’t really get the looks comparison to the Ridgeline. Ridgeline is taller but the nose looks like a minivan with a truck bed, the Maverick just looks like a small truck upfront. |
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Quoted: I read a couple reviews recently. If the hybrid had a decent AWD system, I'd be decently interested. A Maverick could likely do just about everything I do (or want to) with my Ridgeline. I don't have a camper trailer right now, but I may eventually want to get another. I think I'd go with a smaller, lighter popup, so the towing capacity of the Ecoboost Mav would likely do it. One review said someone from Ford stated they would keep an eye on demand, and maybe end up doing an AWD hybrid version. View Quote Really surprising they didn't offer hybrid AWD right off the bat. given the current market pressure to put out hybrids and electrics. In a forced choice (which is what we are being offered) I'd go AWD over hybrid every time. The additional complexity of hybrid systems still makes me a little leery but if it had AWD or 4WD I'd take the plunge. 4k lbs towing isn't bad - I've been thinking of a popup or small pop out trailer as well and 4k towing would cover it. |
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Quoted: So what are the non full hybrids as the main ones I am aware of like the Toyota and Ford will drive on battery alone for a short distance. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Full hybrid just means it can travel short distances on electric alone. Non-full hybrids require the engine to be started at any point the car is being accelerated. Battery only no ICE vehicles are known as BEVs or Battery Electric Vehicles. So what are the non full hybrids as the main ones I am aware of like the Toyota and Ford will drive on battery alone for a short distance. They mostly don't exist anymore... Honda's IMA system, Ram's eTorque system that used the starter to accelerate the truck from a stop, but simultaneously starts the ICE, there's a few. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mild_hybrid |
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Quoted: There were 3 on a lot that I looked at this weekend. The window prices with options for them were roughly 25k XL, 28K XLT, and 35k for Lariat with all 3 being AWD. View Quote |
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Quoted: Wow, that's crazy. I thought the main selling point was they were cheaper than the popular mid sized truck market. Guess not. May as well go with a midsized truck at those prices, unless you really need AWD drive for something, but even then? A base Tacoma SR is $26k and can haul 1600lbs more of groceries. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: There were 3 on a lot that I looked at this weekend. The window prices with options for them were roughly 25k XL, 28K XLT, and 35k for Lariat with all 3 being AWD. A Ranger with 4wd is low 30s. It's not 2005 anymore. A base Tacoma with 4wd also starts about 30 as well. |
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Quoted: A Ranger with 4wd is low 30s. It's not 2005 anymore. A base Tacoma with 4wd also starts about 30 as well. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: There were 3 on a lot that I looked at this weekend. The window prices with options for them were roughly 25k XL, 28K XLT, and 35k for Lariat with all 3 being AWD. A Ranger with 4wd is low 30s. It's not 2005 anymore. A base Tacoma with 4wd also starts about 30 as well. There is no other truck you can touch for the price of the maverick with the same options. Crew cab AWD/4wd and towing package you are getting near $40k. |
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Quoted: A Ranger with 4wd is low 30s. It's not 2005 anymore. A base Tacoma with 4wd also starts about 30 as well. View Quote |
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Quoted: I feel like this statement should be in every single pickup truck thread in GD, in the OP, before people complain about wanting a small truck/how big trucks have become/how if there was only a small, cheap truck out there/if only there was a pickup for $20k/if only someone made a small, cheap pickup truck that was shitty and had zero amenities then they'd buy it. View Quote I think this little truck is pretty cool and I think it will sell well. It annoys me that it’s almost $4500 over base to get awd and as mentioned doesn’t even have cruise control. Some of us actually want one for truck stuff which for me means a motorcycle in the bed which is tough on these. By the time I get it close I’m damn near in Ranger territory which I would rather have but doesn’t fill the commuter role near as well as I’d like. I’m still pretty tempted by a 2wd hybrid cost wise even though it would be my first 2wd vehicle ever |
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Quoted: I think this little truck is pretty cool and I think it will sell well. It annoys me that it’s almost $4500 over base to get awd and as mentioned doesn’t even have cruise control. Some of us actually want one for truck stuff which for me means a motorcycle in the bed which is tough on these. By the time I get it close I’m damn near in Ranger territory which I would rather have but doesn’t fill the commuter role near as well as I’d like. I’m still pretty tempted by a 2wd hybrid cost wise even though it would be my first 2wd vehicle ever View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I feel like this statement should be in every single pickup truck thread in GD, in the OP, before people complain about wanting a small truck/how big trucks have become/how if there was only a small, cheap truck out there/if only there was a pickup for $20k/if only someone made a small, cheap pickup truck that was shitty and had zero amenities then they'd buy it. I think this little truck is pretty cool and I think it will sell well. It annoys me that it’s almost $4500 over base to get awd and as mentioned doesn’t even have cruise control. Some of us actually want one for truck stuff which for me means a motorcycle in the bed which is tough on these. By the time I get it close I’m damn near in Ranger territory which I would rather have but doesn’t fill the commuter role near as well as I’d like. I’m still pretty tempted by a 2wd hybrid cost wise even though it would be my first 2wd vehicle ever Additional axles, drive line, awd box / "transfer case", user controls, etc |
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Quoted: I think this little truck is pretty cool and I think it will sell well. It annoys me that it’s almost $4500 over base to get awd and as mentioned doesn’t even have cruise control. Some of us actually want one for truck stuff which for me means a motorcycle in the bed which is tough on these. By the time I get it close I’m damn near in Ranger territory which I would rather have but doesn’t fill the commuter role near as well as I’d like. I’m still pretty tempted by a 2wd hybrid cost wise even though it would be my first 2wd vehicle ever View Quote I’ll likely order one of these myself before long. I’d have preferred an AWD hybrid but will probably just choose the front wheel hybrid in the XLT package. Pricing it out with the options that I want would put me at around 26k. It’d be at least mid 30’s for a similar packaged Ranger but getting half the mpg. |
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Quoted: Additional axles, drive line, awd box / "transfer case", user controls, etc View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I feel like this statement should be in every single pickup truck thread in GD, in the OP, before people complain about wanting a small truck/how big trucks have become/how if there was only a small, cheap truck out there/if only there was a pickup for $20k/if only someone made a small, cheap pickup truck that was shitty and had zero amenities then they'd buy it. I think this little truck is pretty cool and I think it will sell well. It annoys me that it’s almost $4500 over base to get awd and as mentioned doesn’t even have cruise control. Some of us actually want one for truck stuff which for me means a motorcycle in the bed which is tough on these. By the time I get it close I’m damn near in Ranger territory which I would rather have but doesn’t fill the commuter role near as well as I’d like. I’m still pretty tempted by a 2wd hybrid cost wise even though it would be my first 2wd vehicle ever Additional axles, drive line, awd box / "transfer case", user controls, etc Yeah I understand I just don’t like the way stuff is advertised and the build options and cost. |
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Posted this in its own thread before I realized this big one existed. Saw a couple on the lot today, 25k for one, 26k for the other.
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Quoted: Wow, that's crazy. I thought the main selling point was they were cheaper than the popular mid sized truck market. Guess not. May as well go with a midsized truck at those prices, unless you really need AWD drive for something, but even then? A base Tacoma SR is $26k and can haul 1600lbs more of groceries. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: There were 3 on a lot that I looked at this weekend. The window prices with options for them were roughly 25k XL, 28K XLT, and 35k for Lariat with all 3 being AWD. "Payload" is the combined mass of passengers, fuel, and cargo, without a trailer. The Maverick has a 1500lb maximum payload, the Tacoma SR has 1685lbs for 4x2 Access Cab, and 1285lbs for 4x4 Access Cab (TRD Off-Road 4x4 is only 1105lbs). The new Tundra TRD Pro has a 1600lb payload and other Tundras only go as high as ~1950lbs. So it really just depends how far apart you want to sit from each other vs the Tacoma, and if your friends are fat or chonky, all three are about the same. Or spend $60k+ for an F150, if you can ever decipher Ford's website. Kharn |
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Quoted: "Payload" is the combined mass of passengers, fuel, and cargo, without a trailer. The Maverick has a 1500lb maximum payload, the Tacoma SR has 1685lbs for 4x2 Access Cab, and 1285lbs for 4x4 Access Cab (TRD Off-Road 4x4 is only 1105lbs). The new Tundra TRD Pro has a 1600lb payload and other Tundras only go as high as ~1950lbs. So it really just depends how far apart you want to sit from each other vs the Tacoma, and if your friends are fat or chonky, all three are about the same. Or spend $60k+ for an F150, if you can ever decipher Ford's website. Kharn View Quote Crazy that a Tundra only has 100 lbs more payload than the maverick. |
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Quoted: This is the model/paint job of the Maverick my parents had back in the early 80's when I was in high school. I think it was a V6 if I remember correctly. https://img.hmn.com/900x0/stories/2018/10/1976-Stallion.jpg View Quote Yep...thats a maverick ....Pinto up front Mustang out back |
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Quoted: "Payload" is the combined mass of passengers, fuel, and cargo, without a trailer. The Maverick has a 1500lb maximum payload, the Tacoma SR has 1685lbs for 4x2 Access Cab, and 1285lbs for 4x4 Access Cab (TRD Off-Road 4x4 is only 1105lbs). The new Tundra TRD Pro has a 1600lb payload and other Tundras only go as high as ~1950lbs. So it really just depends how far apart you want to sit from each other vs the Tacoma, and if your friends are fat or chonky, all three are about the same. Or spend $60k+ for an F150, if you can ever decipher Ford's website. Kharn View Quote |
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That's with the turbo 4 and the tow package. Comparable base trucks it's 2000 vs 3500. Top Tacoma is around 6400.
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https://www.thedrive.com/news/42819/hybrid-ford-maverick-gets-42-mpg-city-epa
Hybrid Ford Maverick Gets 42 MPG City: EPA It seems the 2022 Ford Maverick is a hit in the making. It's cheap, it's gotten good reviews, and its fuel economy was initially reported by Ford to be well above average in terms of pickups, at roughly 40 miles per gallon. That was just an estimate by the automaker, however, but now we know for sure that Ford's numbers were actually a tiny bit conservative. The EPA has gotten around to testing the compact Maverick for itself, and the numbers are in: 42 mpg city, 33 mpg highway, and 37 mpg combined. That's much better than anybody was expecting. As a result, the Maverick is officially the most efficient hybrid pickup out there. It achieves these impressive numbers thanks mostly to its drivetrain; a 2.5-liter Atkinson cycle four-cylinder engine in combination with a continuously variable transmission and an electric motor. A small suitcase-sized battery mounted under the rear seats provides the charge that helps the vehicle get off the line in the city, saving—as it turns out—a whole bunch of fuel. The combined output of this system is 191 horsepower, which actually makes it more capable than you might think. Even a hair less than 200 horsepower is enough to tow around 2,000 pounds or haul 1,500 pounds worth of stuff in the bed. The only caveat is this drivetrain is front-wheel drive only. If you want an all-wheel-drive Maverick, you'll have to go for the more powerful 2.0-liter turbocharged drivetrain that's not nearly as efficient. Maverick sales are already off to a good start, but so far only the aforementioned 2.0-liter turbo models have been sold. If you want a fuel-sipping hybrid Maverick, you'll have to wait until December for units to start shipping. And according to Ford, you should order one fast. The Dearborn automaker claims allocations are expected to run dry by early November. View Quote |
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What’s the ecoboost get in 2wd and 4wd |
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Had one pass me on the interstate the other day. Didn't seem much different in size than my 1st gen Canyon/Colorado.
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Quoted: Reviewers are seeing ~32mpg highway. 2WD vs. AWD shouldn't really matter beyond the weight increase. The FX4 trim gets slightly shorter gearing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: What’s the ecoboost get in 2wd and 4wd Reviewers are seeing ~32mpg highway. 2WD vs. AWD shouldn't really matter beyond the weight increase. The FX4 trim gets slightly shorter gearing. So the same as the Hybrid on the highway which is where I spend 99% of my time. |
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