User Panel
Quoted: Perhaps because it is ugly as fuck from every angle you view it from? I avert my eyes from looking at them as if trying to avoid looking into the headlight/highbeams of oncoming cars. Have tried to find some feature I like and I have yet to do it. Fuckin ugly. Outgoing C7 Z06 and Grandsports going out as best looking corvettes. The new 24 Mustang is similarly fucked up tho. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: How is the Corvette fucked up ? Perhaps because it is ugly as fuck from every angle you view it from? I avert my eyes from looking at them as if trying to avoid looking into the headlight/highbeams of oncoming cars. Have tried to find some feature I like and I have yet to do it. Fuckin ugly. Outgoing C7 Z06 and Grandsports going out as best looking corvettes. The new 24 Mustang is similarly fucked up tho. That's a pretty strong opinion about something you don't want to purchase or care about. |
|
Quoted: Well yes but the dude who is widely considered the father of the vette Mr. Zora wanted it mid engine decades ago. The front engine vette is like the forward assist of the automotive world. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Chevrolet Royally fucked up the Corvette. Now Ford will Royally fuck up the Mustang. How is the Corvette fucked up ? Are you serious it was a front engine, leaf spring for like 70 years Well yes but the dude who is widely considered the father of the vette Mr. Zora wanted it mid engine decades ago. The front engine vette is like the forward assist of the automotive world. Explain leaf spring |
|
Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Chevrolet Royally fucked up the Corvette. Now Ford will Royally fuck up the Mustang. How is the Corvette fucked up ? Are you serious it was a front engine, leaf spring for like 70 years Well yes but the dude who is widely considered the father of the vette Mr. Zora wanted it mid engine decades ago. The front engine vette is like the forward assist of the automotive world. Explain leaf spring General Motors. |
|
Is it going to look like fucking sex or is it going to look like smashed asshole...
Quoted: Bro. It LOOKS like they just extended that back out and kept the front of the body. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/219476/Screenshot_20230816_145043_Chrome-2921805.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: https://www.7thmustang.com/threads/mid-engine-ford-mustang-leaked.809/ ahh shit, I need to grow a mullet! Click To View Spoiler Doesn't look very mid-engined https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/334296/stang_png-2921774.JPG Bro. It LOOKS like they just extended that back out and kept the front of the body. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/219476/Screenshot_20230816_145043_Chrome-2921805.jpg Oh. Kharn |
|
|
|
|
|
Quoted: Isn't the Aztek considered one of the biggest auto failures in history? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: and gm found buyers for the aztek. do sales numbers define what is good? Isn't the Aztek considered one of the biggest auto failures in history? Yes. C8s are selling like hot cakes because they're amazing fuckin vehicles. |
|
Quoted: This. Imagine a factory stripped Mustang GT with no rear seats, no A/C, no power window/locks/seats, but still with all the power and braking of the GT? That would be badass. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Yeah, the dilution of the mustang name by turning it into a brand is really questionable. A more affordable GT would have been cool. This. Imagine a factory stripped Mustang GT with no rear seats, no A/C, no power window/locks/seats, but still with all the power and braking of the GT? That would be badass. |
|
Quoted: Isn't the Aztek considered one of the biggest auto failures in history? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes that even one person walked in to a dealership and thought it was a good idea to buy one tells me that sales numbers do not dictate what a good car is, much less what an attractive car looks like. Quoted: Yes. C8s are selling like hot cakes because they're amazing fuckin vehicles. they are selling like hot cakes because they are the newest thing and somewhat affordable. even non-car people know what a corvette is. there is no denying its performance capabilities. there is however disagreement on what it looks like, especially how that look relates to its storied history. that they've sold all of them built so far does not mean they look good. |
|
Quoted: Performance wise, yes. Looks wise, I’ll take a C7. View Quote Meh, the C7 interior and seats still left a lot to be desired. I hated the steering wheel design in the c7. Verts were still a soft top. Sooo many improvements with the new car. Lots of purists hated the C7 for changing the tail light shape when it came out so I guess they need to hate on the total redesign now. Those people are missing out on a great driving and performing car. |
|
Quoted: The fact that GM sells them as quickly as they can build them says your opinion is in the vast minority. They have no problems finding buyers. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: The fact that GM sells them as quickly as they can build them says your opinion is in the vast minority. They have no problems finding buyers. The fact that the NB wearing crowd drinks the KoolAid is of no surprise to me. Still does not mean that have taste. Things are fucking hideously ugly and look like they were designed by team of idiots. Quoted: That's a pretty strong opinion about something you don't want to purchase or care about. If Amy Shumer whipped her tits out in public and you saw them you would have a right to a strong opinion over something so hideous. Midcap might like it but that doesn't mean everybody wants to go hoggin. Quoted: Those people are missing out on a great driving and performing car. And I am fine with that. I very much like a specific lay out of a car design wise. Maybe it is some kind of deep rooted autism but styling wise I like long hoods and short overhangs that come from a front engine rear wheel drive layout. Viper Daytona Jaguar E Type Corvettes excluding the C8 Ferrari's cars like the 812 Pony Cars of the big 3 To the point that yes I will give up performance for a car that does not make me wince to look at it. I am not lying in saying I have not found a single body line on a C8 that I like. Z06s are starting to show up in town and even they cannot be saved. GT40 is among the sexiest cars ever designed, Porsche 918 goddamn sexy as fuck. The C8 misses terribly on styling. |
|
Quoted: that even one person walked in to a dealership and thought it was a good idea to buy one tells me that sales numbers do not dictate what a good car is, much less what an attractive car looks like. they are selling like hot cakes because they are the newest thing and somewhat affordable. even non-car people know what a corvette is. there is no denying its performance capabilities. there is however disagreement on what it looks like, especially how that look relates to its storied history. that they've sold all of them built so far does not mean they look good. View Quote Funny, most comments I have gotten on mine in person were positive. Cool car, sharp, bad ass…..etc etc. lots of folks like the C8. |
|
Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yeah, the dilution of the mustang name by turning it into a brand is really questionable. A more affordable GT would have been cool. This. Imagine a factory stripped Mustang GT with no rear seats, no A/C, no power window/locks/seats, but still with all the power and braking of the GT? That would be badass. They make something like that, and they sell a few, but track only. The 500S was actually built on the assembly line. I believe all the others are built offsite from a body in white. The Ford guys in Dearborn told us they would build anything if you ordered like 50+ of them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Mustang_FR500 |
|
Quoted: They make something like that, and they sell a few, but track only. The 500S was actually built on the assembly line. I believe all the others are built offsite from a body in white. The Ford guys in Dearborn told us they would build anything if you ordered like 50+ of them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Mustang_FR500 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yeah, the dilution of the mustang name by turning it into a brand is really questionable. A more affordable GT would have been cool. This. Imagine a factory stripped Mustang GT with no rear seats, no A/C, no power window/locks/seats, but still with all the power and braking of the GT? That would be badass. They make something like that, and they sell a few, but track only. The 500S was actually built on the assembly line. I believe all the others are built offsite from a body in white. The Ford guys in Dearborn told us they would build anything if you ordered like 50+ of them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Mustang_FR500 The 93/95/00 Cobra Rs of SVT were pretty remarkable for back in the day. That largely disappeared until the FR500s and Boss 302S came along. Just wish Ford made more of the damned things. Very few of those Cobra Rs made it to the track even after Ford required a racing license to get one. Somebody on the forum has a 302S and possibly a comparable FP350S but I think those were crossplane 5.2 Aluminators. |
|
|
Quoted: Funny, most comments I have gotten on mine in person were positive. Cool car, sharp, bad ass…..etc etc. lots of folks like the C8. View Quote i don't think people will come up to you and say Shooter66, that sure is an ugly pos i'm glad you like it. as i said there is no denying the technology and performance improvement over the c7. the problem at least for this purist is the engine is in the wrong spot and the car looks like it was designed by a committee of people that never met during the design process. again, this is my opinion based on how my brain reacts to seeing one. but i'd be lying if i said it wasn't also shared amongst many of my fellow white new balance owners. |
|
|
Quoted: You should write harlequin romance novels. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Oh god...Ford is going to royally fuck this up without questions. Remember that last cool thing Ford did? The 5.2L voodoo flat plane....well the retards at ford managed to make a flat plane v8 sound like a bag of smashed ass holes screaming for help. A flat plane is supposed to sound like a symphony of dead dinosaur juice exploding under pressure and FIRE! Instead they made a nasty sounding engine that sounds like a hoarse coyote is shitting out a stuck rock You should write harlequin romance novels. |
|
Quoted: i don't think people will come up to you and say Shooter66, that sure is an ugly pos i'm glad you like it. as i said there is no denying the technology and performance improvement over the c7. the problem at least for this purist is the engine is in the wrong spot and the car looks like it was designed by a committee of people that never met during the design process. again, this is my opinion based on how my brain reacts to seeing one. but i'd be lying if i said it wasn't also shared amongst many of my fellow white new balance owners. View Quote Well…….I have friends that called the McLaren 570S I was considering “The ugliest car I have ever seen”. LOL!! As someone that has owned and driven C5-C8 I have to say the engine is where it belonged the whole time now. |
|
Quoted: As someone that has owned and driven C5-C8 I have to say the engine is where it belonged the whole time now. View Quote Attached File i've had enough of you and your midengined cars. i'm going out to the garage to sit in my c7 and pretend we never talked |
|
Quoted: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/reportedKlingon-344.gif i've had enough of you and your midengined cars. i'm going out to the garage to sit in my c7 and pretend we never talked View Quote Attached File |
|
Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yeah, the dilution of the mustang name by turning it into a brand is really questionable. A more affordable GT would have been cool. This. Imagine a factory stripped Mustang GT with no rear seats, no A/C, no power window/locks/seats, but still with all the power and braking of the GT? That would be badass. Ford had something similar back in the day with the LX 5.0 Mustangs. They were universally considered "sleeper" Mustangs because they had all the performance of the GTs but none of the fancy, distinct extras that the GTs had. I had one, a 1987 LX 5.0 with no A/C, roll-up windows, non-powered locks, and no powered anything else for that matter. The same demographics that were interested in the LX 5.0 back in the '80s would be the target market for a modern one: high school and college grads who wanted a performance Mustang but at a lower price point, guys their 20s who were interested in performance but not necessarily the look of a performance car (ie., the sleeper concept), and older buyers who think it might be worth something some day because it was a special Mustang. Lastly, Ford sort of dabbles with the concept every ten years or so with the Bullitt Mustang, where they toss a few extra performance goodies at the car, paint it dark green, black out the wheels, and don't put any distinctive GT spoilers or stuff on it. Ford could call a new, stripped GT the GT-S or use the old LX moniker again. |
|
|
I think it looks pretty good. Now we see if it can stand up against the C8 in the performance department.
|
|
|
I didn't realize the pictures were leaked, I thought those were more random internet pictures. It looks like a Mustang raped a Z4 so hard it created an extra chromosome.
|
|
Buncha Vette haters in here. C8 Corvettes are great performers, and look badass doing it.
Attached File |
|
Quoted: Buncha Vette haters in here. C8 Corvettes are great performers, and look badass doing it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/209554/c8_daytona1_jpg-2922668.JPG View Quote Reminds me of the Henry Ford quote People are always hesitant to accept changes |
|
Quoted: Buncha Vette haters in here. C8 Corvettes are great performers, and look badass doing it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/209554/c8_daytona1_jpg-2922668.JPG View Quote I’m still shocked they don’t offer these things with denim interiors. |
|
Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Chevrolet Royally fucked up the Corvette. Now Ford will Royally fuck up the Mustang. How is the Corvette fucked up ? Are you serious it was a front engine, leaf spring for like 70 years Well yes but the dude who is widely considered the father of the vette Mr. Zora wanted it mid engine decades ago. The front engine vette is like the forward assist of the automotive world. Explain leaf spring My C7 does quite well with leaf springs.. |
|
From the pics:
1) It does NOT look like there is nearly enough room in the back for any non-flat4 motor. 2) If it is rear mid engine, what is under that long front hood? According to the linked article: "Additionally, it may not be a mid-engine design either, but that remains a possibility at this moment in time." I suspect the leaked photos are not actual rear mid engine at all. Perhaps the oddly-named "Front mid engine" where a longitudinally-short motor (like a V6) is positioned completely behind the front axle line, but still ahead of the driver compartment? |
|
Quoted: Reminds me of the Henry Ford quote https://paper.studio/images/articles/henry-ford-quote-faster-horses.png People are always hesitant to accept changes View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Buncha Vette haters in here. C8 Corvettes are great performers, and look badass doing it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/209554/c8_daytona1_jpg-2922668.JPG Reminds me of the Henry Ford quote https://paper.studio/images/articles/henry-ford-quote-faster-horses.png People are always hesitant to accept changes At the very least Chevy pushed the Vette as far as they could with the FR set up. But once the Z06 and Zr1 C7 were out and struggling to put that power down, they had no choice. Should have been mid engined since the 70's but better late than never. |
|
Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yeah, the dilution of the mustang name by turning it into a brand is really questionable. A more affordable GT would have been cool. This. Imagine a factory stripped Mustang GT with no rear seats, no A/C, no power window/locks/seats, but still with all the power and braking of the GT? That would be badass. I would argue that people would buy those cars. Look back to the 1993/1995/2000 Cobra Rs and the 2008 Cobra Jet drag cars. They were limited run but they sold all of them, many with ADMs of 20% or more. Would these cars sell as regular production run cars? Probably not but, in limited runs, they'll sell out almost immediately. |
|
Quoted: At the very least Chevy pushed the Vette as far as they could with the FR set up. But once the Z06 and Zr1 C7 were out and struggling to put that power down, they had no choice. Should have been mid engined since the 70's but better late than never. View Quote I think they could have gone a bit further with it but they chose to make the jump to mid/rear engine setup. Active aero would have made a huge impact. |
|
Quoted: I would argue that people would buy those cars. Look back to the 1993/1995/2000 Cobra Rs and the 2008 Cobra Jet drag cars. They were limited run but they sold all of them, many with ADMs of 20% or more. Would these cars sell as regular production run cars? Probably not but, in limited runs, they'll sell out almost immediately. View Quote Limited runs does kill the whole "make it cheaper" proposition. Shit, getting rid of power windows to R&D manual window tracks for a limited run car pretty much kills any idea of saving money on top of that. |
|
Quoted: The 5.2L voodoo flat plane....well the retards at ford managed to make a flat plane v8 sound like a bag of smashed ass holes screaming for help. View Quote Simply and stunningly incorrect. The exhaust note of the Voodoo (and that of the Coyote Gen3 in the Mach 1 as well) is a symphonic masterpiece. Some of the best sounding off-the-shelf sounds in the business, and arguably, the best thing the retards at Ford have come up with. |
|
Quoted: At the very least Chevy pushed the Vette as far as they could with the FR set up. But once the Z06 and Zr1 C7 were out and struggling to put that power down, they had no choice. Should have been mid engined since the 70's but better late than never. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Buncha Vette haters in here. C8 Corvettes are great performers, and look badass doing it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/209554/c8_daytona1_jpg-2922668.JPG Reminds me of the Henry Ford quote https://paper.studio/images/articles/henry-ford-quote-faster-horses.png People are always hesitant to accept changes At the very least Chevy pushed the Vette as far as they could with the FR set up. But once the Z06 and Zr1 C7 were out and struggling to put that power down, they had no choice. Should have been mid engined since the 70's but better late than never. And if they really wanted to go mid-engine there was no requirement that they release the hideous thing that's called the C8. There are plenty of amazing looking mid-engine cars out there but the C8 looks like it was designed by two separate teams... and the team who designed the rear half of the C8 had spent their whole careers designing vans and pickup truck beds. |
|
Quoted: Simply and stunningly incorrect. The exhaust note of the Voodoo (and that of the Coyote Gen3 in the Mach 1 as well) is a symphonic masterpiece. Some of the best sounding off-the-shelf sounds in the business, and arguably, the best thing the retards at Ford have come up with. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The 5.2L voodoo flat plane....well the retards at ford managed to make a flat plane v8 sound like a bag of smashed ass holes screaming for help. Simply and stunningly incorrect. The exhaust note of the Voodoo (and that of the Coyote Gen3 in the Mach 1 as well) is a symphonic masterpiece. Some of the best sounding off-the-shelf sounds in the business, and arguably, the best thing the retards at Ford have come up with. |
|
|
Quoted: Oh god...Ford is going to royally fuck this up without questions. Remember that last cool thing Ford did? The 5.2L voodoo flat plane....well the retards at ford managed to make a flat plane v8 sound like a bag of smashed ass holes screaming for help. A flat plane is supposed to sound like a symphony of dead dinosaur juice exploding under pressure and FIRE! Instead they made a nasty sounding engine that sounds like a hoarse coyote is shitting out a stuck rock View Quote You're the first person I've heard say the Voodoo doesn't incredible. Voodoo had other issues but sound wasn't one of them. |
|
Quoted: There was no requirement to keep adding more and more power to a car that's mostly sold to the geriatric crowd at this point. And if they really wanted to go mid-engine there was no requirement that they release the hideous thing that's called the C8. There are plenty of amazing looking mid-engine cars out there but the C8 looks like it was designed by two separate teams... and the team who designed the rear half of the C8 had spent their whole careers designing vans and pickup truck beds. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Buncha Vette haters in here. C8 Corvettes are great performers, and look badass doing it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/209554/c8_daytona1_jpg-2922668.JPG Reminds me of the Henry Ford quote https://paper.studio/images/articles/henry-ford-quote-faster-horses.png People are always hesitant to accept changes At the very least Chevy pushed the Vette as far as they could with the FR set up. But once the Z06 and Zr1 C7 were out and struggling to put that power down, they had no choice. Should have been mid engined since the 70's but better late than never. And if they really wanted to go mid-engine there was no requirement that they release the hideous thing that's called the C8. There are plenty of amazing looking mid-engine cars out there but the C8 looks like it was designed by two separate teams... and the team who designed the rear half of the C8 had spent their whole careers designing vans and pickup truck beds. Ok. Please name a successful performance car that had less power than the previous generation. |
|
They should just copy the 88 fiero gt ...change to 6-speed box and all aluminum v6 ...call it the 'Pinto'...
|
|
Quoted: You're the first person I've heard say the Voodoo doesn't incredible. Voodoo had other issues but sound wasn't one of them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Oh god...Ford is going to royally fuck this up without questions. Remember that last cool thing Ford did? The 5.2L voodoo flat plane....well the retards at ford managed to make a flat plane v8 sound like a bag of smashed ass holes screaming for help. A flat plane is supposed to sound like a symphony of dead dinosaur juice exploding under pressure and FIRE! Instead they made a nasty sounding engine that sounds like a hoarse coyote is shitting out a stuck rock You're the first person I've heard say the Voodoo doesn't incredible. Voodoo had other issues but sound wasn't one of them. Agreed. The Voodoo is an angry, self-destructive, high-strung psychopath on meth, but sounds reallllly goooooood... |
|
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.