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View Quote God damn it I automatically read that in Hank Hill's voice and lost it |
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Quoted: I used to bulls eye womp-mice in my T-16 back home. They're not much bigger than 2". View Quote Attached File |
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Quoted: Something like 10 shots at 40yrds in 15 seconds against a man size silhouette, gotta make 8 of the shots hits. However, as far as I can tell that's just not how things happened. From what I gather (and this could be completely wrong because I don't watch the news and I don't really care very much) he was walking toward the BG while engaging and using his non-firing hand to usher people dafuq out. For the last 15 years I haven't practiced defensive handgun shooting in any way other than while moving except for a few drills at training classes. The training classes stressed mastering shooting in motion unless using solid cover so just standing there in one spot driving shots at a target wasn't something they spent much time on. In my opinion, if I'm not able to keep the X in motion while making reliable center mass hits then I'm training to have a duel, not a gunfight. If you want to train with some drill, train with it. Train with all the drills you can google up. If you only train one way then you're rehearsing, not training. In any event, as far as I can tell, the Dicken drill is pretty much gunnie larping + mental masturbation meant to make people feel better about themselves while others pat them on the back for pretending to be as badass as Mr. Dicken apparently is. It is kinda neat though that we've got just unbelievable performances by 2 defensive shooters who are (apparently) essentially untrained. Mr. Rittenhouse, who's performance was nothing less than stunning given the dynamic situation & close range & the trigger control he executed. Mr. Dicken who seems to have dove into action with zero hesitation or fucks given and also seems to have not only behaved as a heroic keeper of his fellow man but also as a truly competent pistol driver in a dynamic long range situation where he displayed obviously fantastic scene control, communications, trigger control and sight picture. View Quote So you would move even if your initial position provided cover and concealment? |
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Quoted: Quoted: I guarantee I could not. 03RN was going to try but I didn’t see if he did it yet. ETA. Speak of the devil. Hmm I sense a weekend challenge You guys are better than I am. I am doing some slow fire precision shooting tonight though. I hope to do better than last week. |
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Quoted: Kind of want to do the dickens drill with a revolver now View Quote move seen it done several times online now Dicken Drill. Cold. Snub. Deep Carry. |
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View Quote With a .22? Man Idk if I count that one personally |
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My brother and I were doing the drill yesterday, me with an optic equipped canik and he with a stock sights Glock. The optic definitely makes the difference. At that distance our target was mostly covered by his sights but the optic made it much easier to see and hit.
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I don't know why anyone would get hung up on it. It's a training tool, not the only training tool. Training and skill checks are good things. It isn't replacing long held doctrine or negating anything, it's just an addition.
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Quoted: The Charles Dickens drill. Using 3 different ghost guns shoot the Christmas goose as many times as you can before the clock strikes one. Extra points for shooting one handed while holing a crutch. View Quote Attached File |
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Quoted: The Charles Dickens drill. Using 3 different ghost guns shoot the Christmas goose as many times as you can before the clock strikes one. Extra points for shooting one handed while holing a crutch. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: How about what the fuck is a Dickens drill and why should I care? The Charles Dickens drill. Using 3 different ghost guns shoot the Christmas goose as many times as you can before the clock strikes one. Extra points for shooting one handed while holing a crutch. It is the best of drills, it is the worst of drills. |
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Quoted: With a .22? Man Idk if I count that one personally View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: With a .22? Man Idk if I count that one personally he's got 8 rounds, but 22 DA revolvers are maybe the hardest to shoot for accuracy. His triggers probably 12+ pounds in a 14 ounce gun |
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Quoted: I guarantee I could not. 03RN was going to try but I didn’t see if he did it yet. ETA. Speak of the devil. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: NY reload is the way to go. I really think I could get it done with a reload I guarantee I could not. 03RN was going to try but I didn’t see if he did it yet. ETA. Speak of the devil. I might try with my m19 but sometimes shells don't slide perfectly in during reloads. |
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If (and likely when) somebody gets a confirmed self defense kill at say 100 yards+ with a pistol, are people going to create the "100 yard dash drill" and proclaim its necessity?
I think you train for what you are able to effectively do. Most of these people doing "drills" on youtube knows "Dicken" is currently "IN" and gets clicks and views (see MONEY) *Cryptobro who understands how fads work in relation to making money off of them* |
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The Dicken Drill - 10 shots at 40 Yards in 15 Seconds here's a revolver with a reload |
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Quoted: he's got 8 rounds, but 22 DA revolvers are maybe the hardest to shoot for accuracy. His triggers probably 12+ pounds in a 14 ounce gun this guy did it too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RgQk93VrJ0 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: With a .22? Man Idk if I count that one personally he's got 8 rounds, but 22 DA revolvers are maybe the hardest to shoot for accuracy. His triggers probably 12+ pounds in a 14 ounce gun this guy did it too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RgQk93VrJ0 The Ruger 22 LCR has a better trigger than .38 j frames |
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The drill itself seems a little superfluous and naming it after the guy before he's given any public indication of whether he'd prefer not to be famous for this seems kind of cringey, but the limited details of the shooting that we have do provide food for thought and a helpful reminder that you should go outside your comfortable and expected practice sometimes just in case.
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Quoted: I might try with my m19 but sometimes shells don't slide perfectly in during reloads. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: NY reload is the way to go. I really think I could get it done with a reload I guarantee I could not. 03RN was going to try but I didn’t see if he did it yet. ETA. Speak of the devil. I might try with my m19 but sometimes shells don't slide perfectly in during reloads. I have faith in you. |
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Quoted: Regarding this shooting, did the shooter ever return the good guy’s fire? View Quote From what i read, Mr Dicken's first couple of shots hit Mr Crazy somewhere vital or structural and he "whithered". The final closing/charging shots were insurance to make sure Mr Crazy did not continue his rampage. If I'm wrong, i stand corrected. |
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Quoted: That sounds awful, why would you buy one? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: he's got 8 rounds, but 22 DA revolvers are maybe the hardest to shoot for accuracy. His triggers probably 12+ pounds in a 14 ounce gun That sounds awful, why would you buy one? cause you can still shoot the Dicken Drill with one and it weighs very little this episode seems a very strong case for Indian>arrow |
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Quoted: True, but we don't know those details yet. The drill was created with what little information we have. Once we see the video we can update the drill to be more accurate. I don't see it as masturbatory fantasies, just people wanting to celebrate him for exercising his right to carry and being willing to do the right thing to protect himself, his loved ones and other people. It also changes what most people thought the typical self-defense scenario looked like. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The "Dicken Drill" makes me cringe. the poor guy probably hates all this attention and masterbating but isn't allowed to speak yet about it. he also didn't shoot all his rounds from the god tier 40 yards away range. he did a damn fine job stopping that threat, and has my respect. I can appreciate people motivated to train some more because of this, but still..... True, but we don't know those details yet. The drill was created with what little information we have. Once we see the video we can update the drill to be more accurate. I don't see it as masturbatory fantasies, just people wanting to celebrate him for exercising his right to carry and being willing to do the right thing to protect himself, his loved ones and other people. It also changes what most people thought the typical self-defense scenario looked like. It most certainly should not change "what most people thought the typical self-defense scenario looked like". It was a real outlier. The typical self-defense pistol use is still very much being fast, accurate, at close quarters against an assailant who is FOCUSED on YOU. I deeply admire what this young man accomplished. I hope he and his very conscientious girl friend get married, raise ten kids like them and have long prosperous lives. This country needs that, desperately. But, lets not get confused on the world we actually live in. I have always practiced pistols at longer range because what that takes makes me a better shooter at close range. No argument there. But, there is a a bit of a crowd posing feature of this now that should be beneath gun owners. |
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Quoted: The Ruger 22 LCR has a better trigger than .38 j frames View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: With a .22? Man Idk if I count that one personally he's got 8 rounds, but 22 DA revolvers are maybe the hardest to shoot for accuracy. His triggers probably 12+ pounds in a 14 ounce gun this guy did it too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RgQk93VrJ0 The Ruger 22 LCR has a better trigger than .38 j frames Probably true, still heavy though- the 22 LCRs have a heavier trigger than the rest |
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Quoted: Using iron sights! https://i.pinimg.com/originals/74/1f/6a/741f6a1cf2128ea0a99e1df2bc3d69de.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: 10 rounds at 40 yards in 15 seconds. You know, the 22 year old that stopped a mass shooter from across the food court with a concealed carry gun. Using iron sights! https://i.pinimg.com/originals/74/1f/6a/741f6a1cf2128ea0a99e1df2bc3d69de.jpg That is hilarious! |
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Quoted: Lol. That’s about 85% of this place. The median age here has to be around 55-60 ish years old. View Quote That’s because old folks actually have money to buy guns. We didn’t spend it all on avocado toast and video games. We believed in firm handshakes, hair on a pussy, and pistol malfunctions. |
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Quoted: Do you two read ANY news? View Quote I read a fuckton of news, MSM and otherwise. I have not once seen any reference to this guy's name, or how many rounds were fired or from what distance. The media is fucking worthless. Anything past 25 yards - yeah this is going to turn into an optics on carry pistols thread. I always used to do at least a bit of pistol shooting from 25-60 yards; now I shoot quite a bit at 50 or so. |
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Quoted: That's because old folks actually have money to buy guns. We didn't spend it all on avocado toast and video games. We believed in firm handshakes, hair on a pussy, and pistol malfunctions. View Quote |
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View Quote I need a comp 3. At least for competitions. |
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Quoted: Holy fuck, I've never seen so much revolver hate from the small wiener community. We need more people to carry, more people to support the 2nd amendment, more people out there ready to shoot back. And the community keep taking a giant shit on anyone who carries a revolver. Have you ever even fired a revolver? Keep going. Keep sowing hate in the community and then wonder why high cap bans and shit get enacted. View Quote You must work for the NRA. |
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Quoted: It's odd to call the 333 rule silly and then cite a source that generally supports it. Maybe it should be 3 rounds, 3 seconds, 5 yards- but that's far from "silliness." Lucky Gunner link I don't understand hate towards the Dickens Drill. This is obviously a rare occurrence (which is why we're discussing it) but I find training for a higher bar helps with success at a lower bar. I shot this a couple days ago at 6 yards with 1 second target presentations (that target hanger spins) as a general believer in the 3-3-5 (?) rule knowing 6 is harder than 5 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/179834/AE999127-BA38-4A55-A189-F121F641D9AA_jpe-2469400.JPG View Quote Friends and I used to do a LOT of night shooting a drills. The idea was that if we were proficient in low-light, a self-defense shooting during daylight would be like cheating. I never thought I would be engaging a bunch of people attacking me at night across a field. |
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So does anyone know what type/model/caliber pistol he made his fame with?
That kind of shooting would be impossible I think with a small .380 pocket pistol. Probably impossible for me overall with his results at that distance. |
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