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AGAIN, too many people survived this battle for the North not to win. THIS IS MY PROBLEM WITH THE PLOT! Bran is literally a GOD! He sees the past and he sees the future. With his precognition, and Arya’s faceless ability, there is no way the North loses. Dany goes mad queen and starts killing characters? Then why doesn’t Bran warn anybody? Golden Company surprises them somewhere. Why doesn’t Bran warn anybody? Any Stark dies... WHY DOESN’T BRAN WARN THEM! Bran is God. People bow to him at his trees and prey to him. Be prepared people, because the writers are giving us Deus EX Machinas out the ass these final 3 episodes. It’s going to be horrendous. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Kit Harrington claims this Sunday’s episode is “so Shakespearean.” I suspect he means the themes because if he means the quality: https://i.imgur.com/b7iH9Yo.gif Bran is God. People bow to him at his trees and prey to him. Be prepared people, because the writers are giving us Deus EX Machinas out the ass these final 3 episodes. It’s going to be horrendous. |
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This guy does for GoT what auralnauts did for Star Wars ep 1 with Jedi Party Ignore the stupid pic used, it's actually pretty well done and funny. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FA0Ijj26o2o View Quote |
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You should have seen her nude, she had sweet tits! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
You should have seen her nude, she had sweet tits! Couldn't post that here, for obvious reasons . . . |
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Quoted: What you pointed it was 100% logical, and makes sense, and probably is backed up in the books. But quick, state now, and with 100% certainty, did Melisandre have powers or not? We can’t. View Quote |
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Quoted: Not really, there have been lower ranked episodes of GOT. You can check it yourself. But that aside, it's current audience rank is 8.7 on Imdb and the last watch audience liked it rating is 78% on Rotten Tomatoes. Of course that doesn't (or shouldn't) matter to you, if you didn't like it. Liking something isn't based on a democratic vote, neither is disliking something. It's not a team sport. We're not going change our subjective opinions based on some overall collectivist opinion. There is no "winning or losing" here. The simple truth is most viewers liked it, or were at least ok with the episode. View Quote For a show that is typically in the 90s that is significant and the primary reason people are upset about the many problems with the last episode. |
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Wasn't the endgame. If he'd killed Bran and defeated a huge army equipped with VS and dragonglass, the end of Man would have been pretty much guaranteed. View Quote Avengers: Endgame wrapped up a storyline 10 years and 20+ movies in the making while The Long Night wrapped up a storyline 8 years and 7+ seasons in the making. I guess getting a satisfying ending for 1 of 2 things I invested 8+ years of my life in isn't bad. Still would have been nice if the one that didn't at least made an effort and wasn't a complete shitshow though. Attached File |
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Yes she did, I have seen them. Couldn't post that here, for obvious reasons . . . View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You should have seen her nude, she had sweet tits! Couldn't post that here, for obvious reasons . . . https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Sexy-Women-of-Game-of-Thrones-/142-1468098/ |
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With all the reaction videos from Last week I'm wondering how many reaction videos there will produced This Sunday night. With all the noise and hubbub from last week I believe that there number of videos would have at least doubled if they had an inkling how it turned out, bad tactics or not. View Quote |
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The Rotten Tomatoes score is 73%, that is the second lowest in the entire series. That is fact and neither subjective nor opinion. The only lower is Triple U, you can check yourself. For a show that is typically in the 90s that is significant and the primary reason people are upset about the many problems with the last episode. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Not really, there have been lower ranked episodes of GOT. You can check it yourself. But that aside, it's current audience rank is 8.7 on Imdb and the last watch audience liked it rating is 78% on Rotten Tomatoes. Of course that doesn't (or shouldn't) matter to you, if you didn't like it. Liking something isn't based on a democratic vote, neither is disliking something. It's not a team sport. We're not going change our subjective opinions based on some overall collectivist opinion. There is no "winning or losing" here. The simple truth is most viewers liked it, or were at least ok with the episode. For a show that is typically in the 90s that is significant and the primary reason people are upset about the many problems with the last episode. But that's ok, it doesn't mean you are wrong for not liking it. It doesn't mean all the people who have expressed their dislike of the show are wrong. It's not a democracy where the majority wins. I was entertained. That's all that matters to me. I don't care who liked it, or didn't like it. I'm just not going to spend any energy trying to change someone's subjective opinion of the Game of Thrones. |
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Quoted: What you pointed it was 100% logical, and makes sense, and probably is backed up in the books. But quick, state now, and with 100% certainty, did Melisandre have powers or not? We can’t. https://i.imgur.com/5ebJyAL.jpg |
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And then of course there is this shit: https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/OusEzYhqVW1t-z8PNucaVqyHb60=/0x0:3147x2360/1200x800/filters:focal(0x0:3147x2360)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/49591167/GOT_MP_102015_EP601-6014_5B1_5D.0.jpg View Quote |
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Quoted: The Rotten Tomatoes score is "liked", so 73% liked it. Did you look at the Imdb score as well? Don't waste your time, (and I mean that in friendly, non-combative way) because the fact remains, most viewers "liked" the show. But that's ok, it doesn't mean you are wrong for not liking it. It doesn't mean all the people who have expressed their dislike of the show are wrong. It's not a democracy where the majority wins. I was entertained. That's all that matters to me. I don't care who liked it, or didn't like it. I'm just not going to spend any energy trying to change someone's subjective opinion of the Game of Thrones. View Quote I imagine a lot of the fans did not go back and look at the wtf moments or read tough criticisms and just enjoyed it as a fictional popcorn show. |
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Quoted: What you pointed it was 100% logical, and makes sense, and probably is backed up in the books. But quick, state now, and with 100% certainty, did Melisandre have powers or not? We can’t. https://i.imgur.com/5ebJyAL.jpg https://i.imgur.com/nHB6HjZ_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium https://i.imgur.com/kZU1Iuf.jpg She couldn't predict anything right with Stannis, didn't have magic, but had magic? Admitted to throwing fake shit into flames to get people to chimp out, but can make dothraki swords aflame, but can't do it to wood, but can? She can predict the Night King getting killed by someone that'd never seen a Whitewalker, but bothered to light up the swords of the Dothraki who I guess she knew were going to die in 2 seconds? Because, that was worthwhile? ETA: That graphic is silly, GRRM always intended for Stannis to be portrayed how he was in the show That's how he was really supposed to be GRRM suddenly got confused and didn't know how to end anything D&D fixed it all and did it exactly like GRRM wanted |
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We have been shown that the 3ER can see the future. Old man raven was waiting patiently in his tree for him. Knew of the battles to come. Wheels was waiting for his friend Jamie so... until told otherwise, how can he not see the future? View Quote |
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He can see the present. Q: How do you know Jaime is coming, Bran? A: He's an hour away on the Kingsroad as we speak. Q: Old Raven, how do you know Bran is coming? A: There are literally no human beings in this part of the world, right now three of them are walking towards my tree. Q: What about the battles to come? A: We've fought in the past several times, for the last few years the NK has been actively preparing for war just as he did back then. You don't need to literally see the future if you can check up on people's status in real-time. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quoted: bran can see the future? Q: How do you know Jaime is coming, Bran? A: He's an hour away on the Kingsroad as we speak. Q: Old Raven, how do you know Bran is coming? A: There are literally no human beings in this part of the world, right now three of them are walking towards my tree. Q: What about the battles to come? A: We've fought in the past several times, for the last few years the NK has been actively preparing for war just as he did back then. You don't need to literally see the future if you can check up on people's status in real-time. Bran seeing hazy weird visions was before he had training and becoming 3ER. It’s hard to believe his visions aren’t becoming clearer. |
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But there is something there. We can agree he can, at least, see visions. Bran saw tides coming over the walls of Winterfell before the iron born leaped over. Jojen, with similar powers, saw when people would die. Old man raven told Bran that Jojen knew he was going to die bringing Bran to him. Bran seeing hazy weird visions was before he had training and becoming 3ER. It’s hard to believe his visions aren’t becoming clearer. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quoted: bran can see the future? Q: How do you know Jaime is coming, Bran? A: He's an hour away on the Kingsroad as we speak. Q: Old Raven, how do you know Bran is coming? A: There are literally no human beings in this part of the world, right now three of them are walking towards my tree. Q: What about the battles to come? A: We've fought in the past several times, for the last few years the NK has been actively preparing for war just as he did back then. You don't need to literally see the future if you can check up on people's status in real-time. Bran seeing hazy weird visions was before he had training and becoming 3ER. It’s hard to believe his visions aren’t becoming clearer. But have you run it through a D&D filter? Is there a way to explain it via a womyn character with less screentime's very general sounding quote - even after re-arranging the words a bunch to make it mean something different? Is there a way to "subvert expectations", because, finishing what they've built is "boring" and "predictable", and it's "smart" to put in 2 last second details and change everything? |
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He can see the present. If you know your friend is in his way to your place, so you sit outside by the door to greet him, it’s inference, not knowing the future. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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We have been shown that the 3ER can see the future. Old man raven was waiting patiently in his tree for him. Knew of the battles to come. Wheels was waiting for his friend Jamie so... until told otherwise, how can he not see the future? They don't play a big active role, because it violates some sort of "prime directive" like attitude that things need to happen the way they are supposed to happen. Which ironically does somehow include their intervention, from time to time. So in that respect they're like Jim Kirk on the USS Enterprise. ...the old Greenseer even had green women around, he just didn't fuck them. I think the role they play is they can be used, if needed, to get the writers out of a tough spot, by doing some sort of Greenseer thing. |
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You should have seen her nude, she had sweet tits! Couldn't post that here, for obvious reasons . . . https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Sexy-Women-of-Game-of-Thrones-/142-1468098/ |
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Quoted: He can see the present. If you know your friend is in his way to your place, so you sit outside by the door to greet him, it’s inference, not knowing the future. View Quote Bran, while watching the unstoppable army of the dead wash over the countryside as a tidal wave of horror... “I wonder where the guy who pushed me out the window is?” If you want to go with only seeing the present, fine. But if you think about it, it starts showing cracks in the story. Bran can see where the undead army is but he doesn’t warn the Umbers and make sure The Last Hearth is cleared? Tormund has to tell everyone that the army of the dead will be there before morning. Shouldn’t Bran have seen and told them that? |
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My silly wag theory for Ep4 . . .
Tyrion believes Dani will go Mad Queen if she gets the throne, and doesn't trust Jon to be able to control her or stop her. He resigns as Hand of the Queen and pledges loyalty to Sansa. Arya is first to get to King's Landing, followed by the Hound when he realizes she's missing. She mortally wounds Cersei, but is cut down by the Mountain. When the Hound arrives and discovers Arya is dead, he attacks the Mountain and ultimately defeats him, but dies from his wounds shortly after. With Cersei and the Mountain dead, Euron seizes power. Jon and Dani set off for KL with their forces, but the dragons are at odds with each other. Drogon turns on Rhaegal who has bonded with Jon. Drogon disappears chasing Rhaegal away just as they are about to engage the opposing forces. Cliffhanger . . . |
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My silly wag theory for Ep4 . . . Tyrion believes Dani will go Mad Queen if she gets the throne, and doesn't trust Jon to be able to control her or stop her. He resigns as Hand of the Queen and pledges loyalty to Sansa. Arya is first to get to King's Landing, followed by the Hound when he realizes she's missing. She mortally wounds Cersei, but is cut down by the Mountain. When the Hound arrives and discovers Arya is dead, he attacks the Mountain and ultimately defeats him, but dies from his wounds shortly after. With Cersei and the Mountain dead, Euron seizes power. Jon and Dani set off for KL with their forces, but the dragons are at odds with each other. Drogon turns on Rhaegal who has bonded with Jon. Drogon disappears chasing Rhaegal away just as they are about to engage the opposing forces. Cliffhanger . . . View Quote |
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My silly wag theory for Ep4 . . . Tyrion believes Dani will go Mad Queen if she gets the throne, and doesn't trust Jon to be able to control her or stop her. He resigns as Hand of the Queen and pledges loyalty to Sansa. Arya is first to get to King's Landing, followed by the Hound when he realizes she's missing. She mortally wounds Cersei, but is cut down by the Mountain. When the Hound arrives and discovers Arya is dead, he attacks the Mountain and ultimately defeats him, but dies from his wounds shortly after. With Cersei and the Mountain dead, Euron seizes power. Jon and Dani set off for KL with their forces, but the dragons are at odds with each other. Drogon turns on Rhaegal who has bonded with Jon. Drogon disappears chasing Rhaegal away just as they are about to engage the opposing forces. Cliffhanger . . . View Quote |
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Someone said earlier that Stannis burning his daughter was intended by GRRM. But even if that is the case, you have to write it. GRRM is a skilled writer and can fill his books with interesting stuff while building characters. D&D lack this skill. There probably should have been 3-4 full seasons for the last couple while we see the groundwork for things like Stannis' descent into madness, but D&D can't even write good Tyrion jokes, so the last couple of seasons have basically been on fast forward. D&D cut out at least half a season of good plot just with the Martell abortion alone. Instead of carefully crafted plots we get this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsioCjw6130 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/015/827/tumblr_n6vxdfRvro1rdjju0o1_400.jpg But Melisandre has better predictive powers than The 3-eyed Raven, that total nobody. She couldn't predict anything right with Stannis, didn't have magic, but had magic? Admitted to throwing fake shit into flames to get people to chimp out, but can make dothraki swords aflame, but can't do it to wood, but can? She can predict the Night King getting killed by someone that'd never seen a Whitewalker, but bothered to light up the swords of the Dothraki who I guess she knew were going to die in 2 seconds? Because, that was worthwhile? ETA: That graphic is silly, GRRM always intended for Stannis to be portrayed how he was in the show That's how he was really supposed to be GRRM suddenly got confused and didn't know how to end anything D&D fixed it all and did it exactly like GRRM wanted D&D cut out at least half a season of good plot just with the Martell abortion alone. Instead of carefully crafted plots we get this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsioCjw6130 And that’s just through S5. |
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Looking through some of the "book vs show" memes (there are a LOT of them) I remembered that, for some reason, they left this hilarious one out of the show. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/99/48/dc/9948dc2170aa7701509f7bcb46673fea.png The whole scene was Renly ripping on Stannis and yet they didn't let Stannis get that one line from the book in because why? It would have taken up 3 seconds? View Quote Attached File |
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Going to be like the first episode, getting the band back together before the KL tour. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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According to Emilia Clarke episode 5 is epic, so my guess is this weeks episode is just filler/ a build up and nothing actually happens. Speaking of Kit, what he thought we he read the The Long Night script: "I was pissed. I was pissed that it wasn't me killing the Night King." |
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I dunno. That doesn't seem "so Shakespearean" like Kit said it was. Speaking of Kit, what he thought we he read the The Long Night script: "I was pissed. I was pissed that it wasn't me killing the Night King." View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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According to Emilia Clarke episode 5 is epic, so my guess is this weeks episode is just filler/ a build up and nothing actually happens. Speaking of Kit, what he thought we he read the The Long Night script: "I was pissed. I was pissed that it wasn't me killing the Night King." |
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It is a longer episode, maybe we'll get some side action or intrigue with Bronn or other parties in KL. Or whatever Yara is doing in the iron islands. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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According to Emilia Clarke episode 5 is epic, so my guess is this weeks episode is just filler/ a build up and nothing actually happens. Speaking of Kit, what he thought we he read the The Long Night script: "I was pissed. I was pissed that it wasn't me killing the Night King." We also HAVE to see Jon's reaction to learning his baby "sister" is now a badass assassin. Also him finding out she now takes life as casually as someone likes Ramsay does. |
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https://media3.giphy.com/media/znRstrOYuirrW/giphy.gif Okay, so how smart was it to have every single commander of the living on the front line. Beric, Edd, Hound, Worm, Brienne, Jamie, Tormund, with Mormont even leading the suicide charge. You could say it was a miracle that only one died in that part of the battle. View Quote The plot armor was just a little too heavy this last show. If you want to save characters for the plot, don't put them in desperate situations where it's unlikely they could survive. That was a writing/director flaw. Major gripes with the episode: 1. military formations at the beginning and deployment of military assets. 2. too much plot armor 3. needed to clearly show how Arya did what she did. Before those, I personally think the Night King should have been the ultimate boss, not Cersei. It'll be interesting how they make Cersei a more interesting threat, then the magical immortal with an undead army hellbent on wiping out humanity. I still enjoyed the episode, go figure. |
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They wanted to show desperation, but the writers could of done so intelligently. Have the army set up properly, with the army behind trenches and barriers, with commanders and trebuchets in back. You can still show the death-rush overpower and overflow the barriers and front lines in an incredible tide. It shows the living being very prepared but still pathetically overwhelmed. You can have the dead do unpredictable tactics. Maybe have dead giants launch handful of undead at groups of men, or up over the walls. When things start looking bleak, have Davos launch the signal for calvary. They are located on makeout point with D&J, and they come down charging at the side. Right before the moment of impact, NK dives out of the night sky and torches them. The commanders beat the retreat when the army of the undead reaches the back lines. You still get the impact of a losing battle with devastation. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: It wasn't. The plot armor was just a little two heavy this last show. If you want to save characters for the plot, don't put them in desperate situations where it's unlikely they could survive. That was a writing/director flaw. Major gripes with the episode: 1. military formations at the beginning and deployment of military assets. 2. too much plot armor 3. needed to clearly show how Arya did what she did. Before those, I personally think the Night King should have been the ultimate boss, not Cersei. It'll be interesting how they make Cersei a more interesting threat, then the magical immortal hellbent on wiping out humanity. I still enjoyed the episode, go figure. Have the army set up properly, with the army behind trenches and barriers, with commanders and trebuchets in back. You can still show the death-rush overpower and overflow the barriers and front lines in an incredible tide. It shows the living being very prepared but still pathetically overwhelmed. You can have the dead do unpredictable tactics. Maybe have dead giants launch handful of undead at groups of men, or up over the walls. When things start looking bleak, have Davos launch the signal for calvary. They are located on makeout point with D&J, and they come down charging at the side. Right before the moment of impact, NK dives out of the night sky and torches them. The commanders beat the retreat when the army of the undead reaches the back lines. You still get the impact of a losing battle with devastation. Shamalamadingdong did this with Glass recently and was rightly slammed for it as well. Just watch the Battle of Helm's Deep for a primer on how to do it right. For all of the talk about how GOT is so much more realistic than LOTR, the battles sure don't prove that. |
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They wanted to show desperation, but the writers could of done so intelligently. Have the army set up properly, with the army behind trenches and barriers, with commanders and trebuchets in back. You can still show the death-rush overpower and overflow the barriers and front lines in an incredible tide. It shows the living being very prepared but still pathetically overwhelmed. You can have the dead do unpredictable tactics. Maybe have dead giants launch handful of undead at groups of men, or up over the walls. When things start looking bleak, have Davos launch the signal for calvary. They are located on makeout point with D&J, and they come down charging at the side. Right before the moment of impact, NK dives out of the night sky and torches them. The commanders beat the retreat when the army of the undead reaches the back lines. You still get the impact of a losing battle with devastation. View Quote |
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