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Posted: 5/7/2019 4:12:29 PM EDT
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 Game of Thrones Season 8 Episode 4 Review: "Last of the Starks" Was the LAST STRAW! (SPOILERS!) |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 4:13:16 PM EDT
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So how is Dany gonna use Drogon better when you just slayed her in the sentence above the last one? Are you one of the show's writers? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not spoilers, since I don't have any sources other than my opinion.... Brienne will become the "QueenSlayer". She will strike down Dany as she says "dracarys - everyone". Bran will bring back the armor and harness that the Targaryen's used hundreds of years ago, allowing Dany to utilize Drogon better. Bran also has a worg line on another dragon. Are you one of the show's writers? She must use Drogon to secure the Red Keep at Kings Landing. She will indicate that her plan is to burn everyone. She is already Queen to Brienne, Jon, Tyrion, et al. |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 4:28:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Episodes are 1.5hrs, Euron definitely sees a dragon coming for the fleet....the fleet is guarding the perimeter of Kings Landing. Are you one of the autistic dolts who can't see how one thing can happen as well as another? She must use Drogon to secure the Red Keep at Kings Landing. She will indicate that her plan is to burn everyone. She is already Queen to Brienne, Jon, Tyrion, et al. 
Sorry, not sorry... |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 4:38:08 PM EDT
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There is an excerpt from Fire and Blood on GRRM's site that has a cool bit about the protections built into the wall against magical creatures. I guess D&D thought this wasn't important enough to include in the show
http://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/2018/09/27/a-fire-blood-excerpt-just-for-you/ The men of the Night’s Watch were as thunderstruck by the queen’s dragon as the people of White Harbor had been, though the queen herself noted that Silverwing “does not like this Wall.” Though it was summer and the Wall was weeping, the chill of the ice could still be felt whenever the wind blew, and every gust would make the dragon hiss and snap. “Thrice I flew Silverwing high above Castle Black, and thrice I tried to take her north beyond the Wall,” Alysanne wrote to Jaehaerys, “but every time she veered back south again and refused to go. Never before has she refused to take me where I wished to go. I laughed about it when I came down again, so the black brothers would not realize anything was amiss, but it troubled me then and it troubles me still.” |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 4:45:46 PM EDT
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I'm not the one who posted a moronic conflicting post. Maybe you should have posted that sentence first like a normal person following a real time line. It read like you couldn't keep your thoughts together from one sentence to another...
Sorry, not sorry... Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Episodes are 1.5hrs, Euron definitely sees a dragon coming for the fleet....the fleet is guarding the perimeter of Kings Landing. Are you one of the autistic dolts who can't see how one thing can happen as well as another? She must use Drogon to secure the Red Keep at Kings Landing. She will indicate that her plan is to burn everyone. She is already Queen to Brienne, Jon, Tyrion, et al.
Sorry, not sorry... |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 4:49:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So yes, you are an autistic dolt. Got it. 
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Posted: 5/7/2019 4:57:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Apparently you couldn't... |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 4:59:54 PM EDT
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So yes, you are an autistic dolt. Got it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Episodes are 1.5hrs, Euron definitely sees a dragon coming for the fleet....the fleet is guarding the perimeter of Kings Landing. Are you one of the autistic dolts who can't see how one thing can happen as well as another? She must use Drogon to secure the Red Keep at Kings Landing. She will indicate that her plan is to burn everyone. She is already Queen to Brienne, Jon, Tyrion, et al.
Sorry, not sorry... |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 5:05:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He's right. Your post was retarded in its form. Stop digging. 
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Posted: 5/7/2019 5:12:29 PM EDT
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I have yet to read a good explanation of why it had to be Jon killing NK and Arya didn't fit the story. Most complaints are whining and nitpicking. Fanboys are mad that their theories were wrong and the prophecies didn't come true the way they wanted it to. The whiners can't make up their minds. They want nuance and subtlety, but want prophecy to be fulfilled in the most obvious, literal, and predictable way. They love the books because they are not a cookie cutter version of high fantasy stories, but they want the good guy to battle and defeat the big bad guy predictably like all other fantasy stories. All the complaints could be applied to Tolkien if the Hobbit or Lotr were published today. Thorin's whole story revolved around defeating Smaug and getting back his kingdom. Bard Stole his kill. Thorin went through a lot of work and pain and suffering, he earned it. Bard had nothing to do with the story. He was introduced in the same chapter as he killed Smaug. He killed Smaug with a family heirloom weapon, oh wait Arya did the same thing. The whole story was Smaug was the big bad guy, how come defeating him wasn't the final battle and end of the story. JRRT is a shit writer!!! Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Your post is spot on, and I think what the vast majority of folks are feeling. Many accusations pages back, when Arya killed the NK and not Jon, about how we were just whiny tits that didn’t see the value/appeal in it being Arya, of that some didn’t like Arya. All of which couldn’t be further from the truth. If I had to guess, I’d wager that Arya would probably poll in the top five of folks favorites here, it wasn’t that folks didn’t like Arya killing the NK because she was a girl, or that those complaining didn’t like her, it was, as you said, out of place, and done simply to subvert expectations, wasting the value of the story. All the complaints could be applied to Tolkien if the Hobbit or Lotr were published today. Thorin's whole story revolved around defeating Smaug and getting back his kingdom. Bard Stole his kill. Thorin went through a lot of work and pain and suffering, he earned it. Bard had nothing to do with the story. He was introduced in the same chapter as he killed Smaug. He killed Smaug with a family heirloom weapon, oh wait Arya did the same thing. The whole story was Smaug was the big bad guy, how come defeating him wasn't the final battle and end of the story. JRRT is a shit writer!!! Glad you agree that it was contrived. |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 5:27:28 PM EDT
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Yes, there was a contingent clause that indicated the timing of each thing. The list could have been 100 items with contigent clauses that indicated timing of each, and people, above idiot level IQ, could figure them out, and place them chronologically. Apparently you couldn't... Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Apparently you couldn't... @OverBored @huntsman2448 |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 5:29:55 PM EDT
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Why didn’t any of the dragons crap out any eggs? I know they all had male names but were they all male? I never saw any dragon dong flopping around.
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Posted: 5/7/2019 5:34:30 PM EDT
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So you guys think Daenerys is toast next episode or what?
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Posted: 5/7/2019 6:10:52 PM EDT
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Why didn’t any of the dragons crap out any eggs? I know they all had male names but were they all male? I never saw any dragon dong flopping around. |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 6:30:56 PM EDT
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For those that have been looking too deeply into the show:
Am I the only one that was disappointed that there was no smoke or flames when the dragon was shot down 
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Posted: 5/7/2019 6:31:50 PM EDT
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Why didn’t any of the dragons crap out any eggs? I know they all had male names but were they all male? I never saw any dragon dong flopping around. |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 6:37:33 PM EDT
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These episodes feel very rushed to me. Seems like they are trying to squeeze into a 90 minute episode what should have been two, hour long episodes.
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Posted: 5/7/2019 6:42:49 PM EDT
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One positive this season has done better than any other season: Emilia Clarke's acting.
It's not up there with the show's heavy hitters or anything, but I think it's a definite improvement. |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 6:43:46 PM EDT
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I think their sort of asexual. Don’t they have the ability to change sexes? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why didn’t any of the dragons crap out any eggs? I know they all had male names but were they all male? I never saw any dragon dong flopping around. 
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Posted: 5/7/2019 6:45:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/7/2019 6:48:47 PM EDT
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These episodes feel very rushed to me. Seems like they are trying to squeeze into a 90 minute episode what should have been two, hour long episodes. If it this is the quality Dumb and Dumber are going to give us I'd rather they just end the series ASAP. 
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Posted: 5/7/2019 6:56:26 PM EDT
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One positive this season has done better than any other season: Emilia Clarke's acting. It's not up there with the show's heavy hitters or anything, but I think it's a definite improvement. |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 7:07:24 PM EDT
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I remember that. I personally didn't see it until after the episode, but I recall him being like "oops, sorry, I thought everyone here already knew." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good thing I skipped 25 pages of this thread Fucking spoiler people are the worst. Like that fucktard who ruined Viserion dying  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 7:14:02 PM EDT
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So you guys think Daenerys is toast next episode or what? 
I think they'll save her death for the climax, whenever that is. |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 7:19:46 PM EDT
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There is a 50% chance she dies next episode, and if not, there is 99% chance she dies the episode after that.
I think they'll save her death for the climax, whenever that is. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So you guys think Daenerys is toast next episode or what?
I think they'll save her death for the climax, whenever that is.
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Posted: 5/7/2019 7:20:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/7/2019 7:28:29 PM EDT
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I'm really, REALLY hoping that she turns out to be a raging cunt just for all the people who got tattoos of her or named their daughters after her Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So you guys think Daenerys is toast next episode or what?
I think they'll save her death for the climax, whenever that is. 
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Posted: 5/7/2019 7:29:21 PM EDT
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I also think its hilarious how some of the same people defending the episode 3 writing for "subverting expectations" with Arya getting the NK kill are now bitching about the bad writing after Dumb and Dumber did their SJW queen dirty.
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Posted: 5/7/2019 7:32:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems like GRRM is pulling a Tolkien and slowly stamping out magic in the world and leaving it to the devices of men, but I could be wrong. |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 7:32:55 PM EDT
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I’m half hoping they butcher this season so badly HBO brings it back for season 9 with new directors in hopes of redeeming themselves.
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Posted: 5/7/2019 7:33:04 PM EDT
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Lol, needs to be on a shirt! Quote HistoryQuoted:
Lol, needs to be on a shirt! 
This made me laugh. 
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Posted: 5/7/2019 7:57:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/7/2019 8:07:02 PM EDT
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Someone over on r/totalwar posted this. It is a historical example of a great general (Belisarius of the Eastern Roman Empire) fighting a similar engagement as in Winterfell against a numerically superior enemy.
 Attached FileThings to note. 1. Hunnish cavalry (i.e. real life Dothraki) are behind the entrenchments, not charging in the middle. 2. Entrenchment designed to funnel enemy into double-envelopment. 3. Entrenchment has designed gaps to funnel enemy and allow counter-attacks. 4. City walls lined with archers. |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 8:10:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/7/2019 8:21:44 PM EDT
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Where are you guys seeing 90 minute episodes? From what I saw the last 2 were 80 minutes, and the 1st 2 were 50 minutes.
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Posted: 5/7/2019 8:29:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm really, REALLY hoping that she turns out to be a raging cunt just for all the people who got tattoos of her or named their daughters after her  Hadn't thought of that. Count me on this bandwagon.
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Posted: 5/7/2019 8:39:28 PM EDT
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On the positive side, they haven't fucked up Hot Pie's character this season. I mean, that's only because he's not in this season, but small blessings.
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Posted: 5/7/2019 8:48:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/7/2019 8:49:47 PM EDT
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I’m having a hard time understanding why Jon’s “claim” to throne even matters if he doesn’t want it. Cersei doesn’t really have much of claim to it. Yes, she was wife and mother to the previous kings, but wouldn’t the throne go to a male Baratheon heir? She has the Lannister army, Euron and his fleet, and the golden company. Someone would obviously have to fight her for it or the kingdom would have to revolt. Dany doesn’t really have a claim. The Targaryen claim to throne ended when Robert Baratheon took it. The only way her “rightful heir” line of thinking works is through conquest. The Baratheon line has to be forcibly removed for her to sit on the throne. Dany knows her claim to the throne doesn’t mean shit. She’s spent most of the series building an army to take it by force. The only threat Jon is to throne is if she’s a shit queen. If she takes the throne and dies he would be the heir to it. She could take a husband or birth a son and he would be out of the picture. I understand that the people would support Jon and follow him into battle if he want to exercise his claim. But he doesn’t want the throne and I doubt he would risk their lives for a title he doesn’t want. Yes, he conquered, but that’s not the only reason he took the throne. |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 8:55:28 PM EDT
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Someone over on r/totalwar posted this. It is a historical example of a great general (Belisarius of the Eastern Roman Empire) fighting a similar engagement as in Winterfell against a numerically superior enemy. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/61337/Battle_of_Dara-battleplan_png-937930.JPG Things to note. 1. Hunnish cavalry (i.e. real life Dothraki) are behind the entrenchments, not charging in the middle. 2. Entrenchment designed to funnel enemy into double-envelopment. 3. Entrenchment has designed gaps to funnel enemy and allow counter-attacks. 4. City walls lined with archers. Also, the Night King has some control of his army, but for the most part the army of the dead didn’t seem to have much individual intelligence. It seems this could have been used to a greater advantage. And if any hit from a dragon glass weapon = instant death, it seems like they could have used this more to their advantage also. More arrows, a barrier you can stab through with a long spear, set up a maze in the castle where you can attack from afar. |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 8:59:35 PM EDT
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Why didn’t any of the dragons crap out any eggs? I know they all had male names but were they all male? I never saw any dragon dong flopping around. |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 9:23:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Robert was put on the throne because he has Targaryen blood through his grandmother, and nobody knew Daenerys and Viserys (and Aegon for that matter) were alive. Yes, he conquered, but that's not the only reason he took the throne. |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 9:25:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/7/2019 9:32:36 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/7/2019 9:35:58 PM EDT
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Robert having a Targaryen grandmother didn't factor in at all. It's pointed out in the books that after Jaime killed Aerys, either Ned or Tywin also could have moved to take the throne before Robert got to King's Landing. Robert was placed in the position to take the crown because he was the main agreived party when Rhaegar "kidnapped" Lyana, and he led the forces that gathered to fight the Targaryens Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Robert was put on the throne because he has Targaryen blood through his grandmother, and nobody knew Daenerys and Viserys (and Aegon for that matter) were alive. Yes, he conquered, but that's not the only reason he took the throne. He tells Ned in the first book that Ned should have been King, Ned reminds him he had the better claim because of his lineage. |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 9:36:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/7/2019 9:37:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But then he took an arrow to the knee 
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Posted: 5/7/2019 9:41:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Robert having a Targaryen grandmother didn't factor in at all. It's pointed out in the books that after Jaime killed Aerys, either Ned or Tywin also could have moved to take the throne before Robert got to King's Landing. Robert was placed in the position to take the crown because he was the main agreived party when Rhaegar "kidnapped" Lyana, and he led the forces that gathered to fight the Targaryens |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 10:04:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistorySuch a great game though. Hard to believe it came out in 2011. I think I probably spent more time playing that game than any other single player game in my life. |
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Posted: 5/7/2019 10:06:32 PM EDT
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Dragons are male and female. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why didn’t any of the dragons crap out any eggs? I know they all had male names but were they all male? I never saw any dragon dong flopping around.  "That's Perverse!" |
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