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Quoted: LED's are better anyway. View Quote Not necessarily. It depends on the desired result. For many things, LEP(Light Emitting Plasma) is far superior and is probably the next "big thing" in lighting. For many things, incandescent still reigns supreme. Everything is better than the CFLs the government forced upon us. All that said... let the market decide, not the government. |
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Yeah, I have a few cases of incandescents in the attic from the Obummer era.
As far as LED bulbs, I am very picky with light source and color. I have found that Philips "Warm Glow" LED bulbs are pretty good. They are well built, and their color is very much like incandescents, and when you dim them, they get more yellow. I usually get larger wattage, and dim them way down, typically around 18-23%. I have yet to replace one. They also are one of the few that make "spots." Like in 40° spots. Not floods. I use these throughout the house in cans. Ugh, looks like they have been discontinued. |
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Quoted: False. My LED exterior floods and spots work just fine in -30 temps. Buy Philips exterior bulbs. Yes they are $20 - $30 a piece. But they have been on every night for 5 years, without incident. View Quote I have 8 of the 250w equiv ones going on 7 years now, lights up the house/treeline up north when snow is on the ground like a baseball stadium. |
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Quoted: My question is how can they ban a private company from selling an item that is not dangerous? View Quote founding fathers didnt include freedom of choice for light sources in the constitution or bill of rights. if it uses energy, is made of plastic, or burns petro chemicals, including stoves, barbecues, heating units, the government will determine what you are allowed to use. |
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Quoted: I remember when everyone was freaking out trying to buy decades worth of incandescent bulbs. LOL View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: LED's are better anyway. I remember when everyone was freaking out trying to buy decades worth of incandescent bulbs. LOL At the time the led bulbs were not as good as they are today. |
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Don't LEDs die from heat if you put them in enclosed fixtures? I also refuse to use anything but incandescent bulbs in my bedroom, I just like the warm natural light for reading and it gives a cozy vibe. Oh well, got my 200+ incandescent stockpile still.
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Quoted: Not necessarily. It depends on the desired result. For many things, LEP(Light Emitting Plasma) is far superior and is probably the next "big thing" in lighting. For many things, incandescent still reigns supreme. Everything is better than the CFLs the government forced upon us. All that said... let the market decide, not the government. View Quote I've never heard of Light Emitting Plasma though in handhelds and automotive LEP is a Laser Excited Phosphorus light source. Please learn me on plasma lights! I'm a fan of arc lamps. My car and truck use them. Fairly low wattage and ridiculous output. 35w gets me 3500lms at 4300k. A 55w halogen for the same application might be 1500lms on a good day. |
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Quoted: ...when the internal circuitry doesn't get fried from power surges. I have tried a multitude of brands since moving here. Few last more than six months. Even fewer last more than a year. The third-worlding of America means advanced - but fragile - technologies aren't always better. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: LED's are better anyway. ...when the internal circuitry doesn't get fried from power surges. I have tried a multitude of brands since moving here. Few last more than six months. Even fewer last more than a year. The third-worlding of America means advanced - but fragile - technologies aren't always better. While I think this is an overreach on the federal government's part as I don't see how they have the authority to do this, I have only had maybe 3 to 4 LED lights go out in the past 8 years or so. |
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Quoted: ...when the internal circuitry doesn't get fried from power surges. I have tried a multitude of brands since moving here. Few last more than six months. Even fewer last more than a year. The third-worlding of America means advanced - but fragile - technologies aren't always better. View Quote Your power company sucks. |
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I switched over the entire house to the first generation Cree bulbs that home Depot sold for $9 a piece. When they started dying off, I lucked into getting some of the LED soup can bulbs that were being clearanced out had a few locations and I'm down to two of those in a ceiling fan.
Last year I bought a 12 pack of Walmart brand LED bulbs because they were $9 online and they are hot garbage. Some of them died quickly, others start strobing on and off for no reason. I'm on the mission to get some decent bulbs again. |
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Quoted: I switched over the entire house to the first generation Cree bulbs that home Depot sold for $9 a piece. When they started dying off, I lucked into getting some of the LED soup can bulbs that were being clearanced out had a few locations and I'm down to two of those in a ceiling fan. Last year I bought a 12 pack of Walmart brand LED bulbs because they were $9 online and they are hot garbage. Some of them died quickly, others start strobing on and off for no reason. I'm on the mission to get some decent bulbs again. View Quote 20+ Phillips LEDs have been flawless in my house. |
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Quoted: Shouldnt it be up the to the consumer considering we live in a "free" country? Bunch of fucking statists. View Quote This. But just like with EVs, digital currency and anything else that isn't a gun, whenever the federal starts talking about banning one thing and replacing it with something "government approved," half of GD starts tripping over each other to be first to explain how reasonable the ban is, and how everybody should just be using the government-approved version anyway. But they're not sheep. No, sir....warriors, all of them. |
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When I purchased my home in 2016, I went about putting LED replacement bulbs in the most heavily used locations. I've now replaced all incandescents. Mostly high quality ($10 each phillips and $4 each cree) but lately have introduced some $1 dimmable cheapos that are suprisingly good at a color temperature I like. Well over 150 bulbs in the house. Some date back to 2013.
In seven years, I've had four failures, one due to water in an outdoor fixture that now has a drain hole. My air conditioner appreciates the reduced heat load. LED lighting is good. Gov mandates are bad. CFLs in most residential applications (dimmed, frequently switched) are miserable. I still have all the incandescents that I took out. Mostly 75-100 w. (Four or five in every ceiling fan. Prior owner had the place lit up like an airport runway.) They'll go back in when I sell the house. |
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Quoted: Quoted: ...when the internal circuitry doesn't get fried from power surges. I have tried a multitude of brands since moving here. Few last more than six months. Even fewer last more than a year. The third-worlding of America means advanced - but fragile - technologies aren't always better. Your power company sucks. Yep....I'm on a rural coop and put in all LED's when we built our house 6 years ago....most of them haven't been replaced yet. |
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Quoted: Lol, Obama already did it 10 years ago. Everyone in GD went mental hoarding light bulbs. View Quote I guarantee someone still has cases of incandescent 100 watt bulbs. I have a cree 3 way led bulb in my living room. On low it’s 3 watts. That’s the setting I use 99% of the time. Plenty of light to read by sitting next to the lamp. |
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Quoted: LED's are better anyway. View Quote Unless you have recessed lighting designed for incandescents and its not only costly to replace them all, but physically difficult to access and swap out. If you just put LEDs in your old fixtures, the LEDs overheat in said fixtures... That being said, I have a lot of LED bulbs in the house, but certain fixtures just aren't going to get changed over due to the expense and hassle. |
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What about bulbs in your oven?
Due to the low heat resistance, there are currently no LED oven lamps on the market. So the oven remains one of the few places where conventional incandescent lamps must be used. But due to the low operating times, there would hardly be any energy savings here anyway. 40 Watt Oven Light Bulb G45, 300? Hight Temp Appliance Light Bulbs Replacement for Oven, |
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I was in the light bulb business for years before retiring in 2017. Back then LED lamps were NOT the end all be all light source. I had literally thousands of bad/defective LED lamps in my 'return for credit' bin(s). Maybe today's technology has improved, I dunno as I haven't followed it in 5+ years.
YMMV |
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I have had Philips LED Spots in ceiling cans for 5+ years. They seem designed for that job. No failures.
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I got a couple of cases of FEIT Led's at Costco a few years back, and surprisingly, NONE have failed.
My wife loves them in her bathroom makeup area since in the summer, the incandescents would get the area hot. The Led's run cool. And one use I found for them that is GREAT, using them in a shop drop light. Used to if I did not use rough use bulbs that were expensive, they would blow the first drop. The led has been in my shop light now for over a year, been dropped a few times, and still going. But I still got a stock of old incandescents to use for things I need heat. Fuck the feds, stay OUT of our private lives! Just defend our borders like you are SUPPOSED to! And fuck the green new deal! |
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Quoted: My lizards are pretty pissed off about this decision. They need heat lights. https://i.imgur.com/eDv7hEI.jpg View Quote Won't someone think of the lizards. |
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Anyone done any research into the RF emissions from LED bulbs, and the potential effects on human tissue and health?
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I stocked up on candles, no way the government is forcing me to use them new fangled electric light bulb things, damn commies.
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Quoted: Unless inserting them into your body, I’d guess virtually zero…but I’m not a doctor. < posted from a cell phone connected to wifi View Quote https://emfacademy.com/light-bulb-emf-radiation-complete-guide/ https://greenlivingideas.com/2016/06/07/leds-emfs-need-know/ other side https://healthybuildingscience.com/2013/03/25/emf-from-led-lights/ |
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Quoted: I remember when everyone was freaking out trying to buy decades worth of incandescent bulbs. LOL View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: LED's are better anyway. I remember when everyone was freaking out trying to buy decades worth of incandescent bulbs. LOL I still buy incandescent bulbs because they burn as hot as my hated for the government |
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