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Posted: 12/1/2023 1:28:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: “Trees don’t vote” Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Most of Michigan is a great place to live. Unfortunately, urban areas rule: https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/files.bridgemi.mike/M2020.JPG “Trees don’t vote” They do in Chicago. Roy |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 1:28:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I lived in Michigan, I would make it top priority to move out of the state. Why, so you could take your forum of government with you?  If one is not willing to stand and fight for ones rights in the state they live in, they sure aren't going to stand and fight for my right in my state. Stay where you cause we don't want you. |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 1:29:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck her and fuck those idiots that installed her Donald Trump got her reelected. He endorsed Tudor Dixon, and then gave her no money, and refused to campaign for her. The dems ran edited clips of Dixon, including one that was deceptively edited to make here appear to support a complete ban on ANY and ALL abortions, with NO exceptions, and she had no money to answer back. |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 2:11:34 PM EST
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What the new laws do, is ensure you don't EVER want to fund a woman's cell bill, because if you stop paying/cut off her service (even if you've separated), the new laws can construe that as falling under 'domestic violence'/intimidation of an SO/former-SO. Please explain how you believe this law could be construed to make not paying for someone's service fall under domestic violence. |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 2:36:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Please explain how you believe this law could be construed to make not paying for someone's service fall under domestic violence. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What the new laws do, is ensure you don't EVER want to fund a woman's cell bill, because if you stop paying/cut off her service (even if you've separated), the new laws can construe that as falling under 'domestic violence'/intimidation of an SO/former-SO. Please explain how you believe this law could be construed to make not paying for someone's service fall under domestic violence. Shutting off the other's telecommunications service. |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 2:47:35 PM EST
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Most of Michigan is a great place to live. Unfortunately, urban areas rule: https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/files.bridgemi.mike/M2020.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: How did she get re-elected? ETA: How did the whole legislature get elected? Plus the state is full of the third world and union shop rats. Most of Michigan is a great place to live. Unfortunately, urban areas rule: https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/files.bridgemi.mike/M2020.JPG Great place to live is debatable when those little blue areas get to decide how the state is run. I grew up there I'm glad I left I would never live there again. It's not a free state. |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 2:54:30 PM EST
[#7]
Engaging in what the victim believes to be harassing behavior that the victim claims caused “emotional distress.” |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 2:59:21 PM EST
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why, so you could take your forum of government with you? If one is not willing to stand and fight for ones rights in the state they live in, they sure aren't going to stand and fight for my right in my state. Stay where you cause we don't want you. Not every single individual who moves from a purple or blue state to a red state is going to vote for purple or blue agendas. |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 3:00:52 PM EST
[#9]
She give up this politics thing and should go back to getting her anus stretched by strangers. I bet she was much more pleasant and fulfilled them.
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Posted: 12/1/2023 3:02:27 PM EST
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As long as Republicans keep pushing the abortion issue we will continue to lose elections. Like it or not. I'm not pro abortion but I'm to the point that if liberals want to kill their babies why should I give a fuck. Let them do it. That is a truth. |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 3:02:47 PM EST
[#11]
this is why we need sexbots.
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Posted: 12/1/2023 3:09:00 PM EST
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Donald Trump got her reelected. He endorsed Tudor Dixon, and then gave her no money, and refused to campaign for her. The dems ran edited clips of Dixon, including one that was deceptively edited to make here appear to support a complete ban on ANY and ALL abortions, with NO exceptions, and she had no money to answer back. |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 3:19:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why, so you could take your forum of government with you? If one is not willing to stand and fight for ones rights in the state they live in, they sure aren't going to stand and fight for my right in my state. Stay where you cause we don't want you. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If I lived in Michigan, I would make it top priority to move out of the state. Why, so you could take your forum of government with you? If one is not willing to stand and fight for ones rights in the state they live in, they sure aren't going to stand and fight for my right in my state. Stay where you cause we don't want you. That is pretty ignorant and completely untrue. Ever hear of a tactical retreat ? Some positions aren't savable. Your state has gotten redder. There has been an influx of people moving into Montana and Idaho as you know. Plenty of them are red voters. Would you rather they stayed away ? |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 3:19:54 PM EST
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That state is lost why anyone still lives there is beyond me.
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Posted: 12/1/2023 3:21:31 PM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly this. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Donald Trump got her reelected. He endorsed Tudor Dixon, and then gave her no money, and refused to campaign for her. The dems ran edited clips of Dixon, including one that was deceptively edited to make here appear to support a complete ban on ANY and ALL abortions, with NO exceptions, and she had no money to answer back. It also makes no sense from Trumps perspective. If a Republican had won the Michigan governorship, it'd be much easier for Trump to win the state for the general election next year. Yet it seems like building a path to actually winning an election next year doesn't interest him. Its odd. |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 3:22:14 PM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How did she get re-elected? ETA: How did the whole legislature get elected? We are doomed as a country. Remember they had a voter turnout in the 125 percent range. |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 5:17:29 PM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What the new laws do, is ensure you don't EVER want to fund a woman's cell bill, because if you stop paying/cut off her service (even if you've separated), the new laws can construe that as falling under 'domestic violence'/intimidation of an SO/former-SO. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: If I was a single man in current times, there would be no way in hell I'd be getting into a relationship with any females. My wife is awesome and I trust her with my life. But laws like these give malicious females way too much leverage. If I'm dating a woman, do I now have to fund her cell phone bill, for example? This law doesn't criminalize anything new, it just adds penalties if the victim of something that was already a crime is a domestic partner. So no, you don't have to fund her cell bill, any more than you have to fund any random person's cell bill. What the new laws do, is ensure you don't EVER want to fund a woman's cell bill, because if you stop paying/cut off her service (even if you've separated), the new laws can construe that as falling under 'domestic violence'/intimidation of an SO/former-SO. You shouldn't want to in the first place. |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 5:23:56 PM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That state is lost why anyone still lives there is beyond me. TX isn't far behind the curve. I hope it never flips, but if it does, be sure to let us know when you plan on leaving. |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 5:27:58 PM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That is pretty ignorant and completely untrue. Ever hear of a tactical retreat ? Some positions aren't savable. Your state has gotten redder. There has been an influx of people moving into Montana and Idaho as you know. Plenty of them are red voters. Would you rather they stayed away ? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: If I lived in Michigan, I would make it top priority to move out of the state. Why, so you could take your forum of government with you? If one is not willing to stand and fight for ones rights in the state they live in, they sure aren't going to stand and fight for my right in my state. Stay where you cause we don't want you. That is pretty ignorant and completely untrue. Ever hear of a tactical retreat ? Some positions aren't savable. Your state has gotten redder. There has been an influx of people moving into Montana and Idaho as you know. Plenty of them are red voters. Would you rather they stayed away ? I think you're all missing his point. Sounds like he's saying if you aren't willing to fight for your state don't move to his and become the same deadweight that you were in your last state. Your point on tactical retreat is valid but it shouldn't be plan A. |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 5:29:30 PM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If there is a single politician that I would think is an alien in a skinsuit, it is her. literally laughs in hochul |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 5:35:14 PM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: literally laughs in hochul Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If there is a single politician that I would think is an alien in a skinsuit, it is her. literally laughs in hochul Actually the global rankings are: 1. Jacinda Ardern 2. Whitmer 3. Hochul 4. Kamala |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 5:39:49 PM EST
[#22]
I sense a whole lot of Michigan men are going to start liking the idea of moving to Ohio.
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Posted: 12/1/2023 5:48:13 PM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I sense a whole lot of Michigan men are going to start liking the idea of moving to Ohio. Only the weak ones. |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 5:51:41 PM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly. Make fun of her name all you want, she gets shit done for her side. And I have to admit the roads are better under the D's. What part of the state are you driving on? The roads on the west side are shit. |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 5:52:08 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How did she get re-elected? ETA: How did the whole legislature get elected? We are doomed as a country. The same method that Trump "lost" in 2020--extreme corruption in elections. She did not get re-elected |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 6:00:46 PM EST
[#26]
Between that cunt and the cold weather, Michigan sounds horrible.
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Posted: 12/1/2023 6:01:12 PM EST
[#27]
It's a shame for Michigan that Whitmer is their Governor.
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Posted: 12/1/2023 6:06:19 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The majority of ignorant comments like "You voted her in" or "I'd be moving out of state" are ridiculous. She wasn't voted in, she was selected and placed. If it wasn't her, it'd probably some other d bag politician doing the same shit. There hasn't been one piece of legislation that has had any significant effect on gun owners lives, yet. Therefore IDGAF. Cross fingers that we keep CPL's, suppressors, full mag capacity, SBR's, etc. If so, all good. F'n internet. Amen |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 6:06:30 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: is one of the listed categories. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: What the new laws do, is ensure you don't EVER want to fund a woman's cell bill, because if you stop paying/cut off her service (even if you've separated), the new laws can construe that as falling under 'domestic violence'/intimidation of an SO/former-SO. Please explain how you believe this law could be construed to make not paying for someone's service fall under domestic violence. Shutting off the other's telecommunications service. I read that as physically turning it off, as in to prevent a phone call ? |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 6:08:17 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That state is lost why anyone still lives there is beyond me. Texas isn't ? |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 6:08:30 PM EST
[#31]
Quoted: Gretchen Whitmer to Michigan men: Don't annoy your ex or enter her empty ice shanty without her permission or the cops will confiscate all your firearms and ammunition Shutting off the other's telecommunications service. If Whitmer signs these bills into law, judges will be able to use EPOs to immediately confiscate firearms from someone determined to be a threat to themselves or others without trial and with limited opportunity for defense. Fees for service of documents related to these orders are prohibited, making it easy and free for anyone to petition for an Extreme Protection Order. https://www.lapeercountytribune.com/whitmer-signs-extreme-gunlaws So if my GF is on my account and we break up and I have her phone shut off I'm getting red flagged as a violent domestic abuser and the states strongmen will show up at my door? |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 6:13:32 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think you're all missing his point. Sounds like he's saying if you aren't willing to fight for your state don't move to his and become the same deadweight that you were in your last state. Your point on tactical retreat is valid but it shouldn't be plan A. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If I lived in Michigan, I would make it top priority to move out of the state. Why, so you could take your forum of government with you? If one is not willing to stand and fight for ones rights in the state they live in, they sure aren't going to stand and fight for my right in my state. Stay where you cause we don't want you. That is pretty ignorant and completely untrue. Ever hear of a tactical retreat ? Some positions aren't savable. Your state has gotten redder. There has been an influx of people moving into Montana and Idaho as you know. Plenty of them are red voters. Would you rather they stayed away ? I think you're all missing his point. Sounds like he's saying if you aren't willing to fight for your state don't move to his and become the same deadweight that you were in your last state. Your point on tactical retreat is valid but it shouldn't be plan A. Why is there an assumption that people stuck in blue states aren't fighting ? Heck even just voting is fighting on a small level. If all someone does is move to a red state, and vote Republican, work a job and raise their families they wouldn't be dead weight. |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 6:14:45 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Only the weak ones. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I sense a whole lot of Michigan men are going to start liking the idea of moving to Ohio. Only the weak ones. I guess the same would apply to the pilgrims coming to America or the millions of immigrants that came to America in the early 1900s then wouldn't it ? |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 6:15:33 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I sense a whole lot of Michigan men are going to start liking the idea of moving to Ohio. I hope so. Ohio could use the reinforcements to ensure it stays red. |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 6:18:50 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I read that as physically turning it off, as in to prevent a phone call ? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What the new laws do, is ensure you don't EVER want to fund a woman's cell bill, because if you stop paying/cut off her service (even if you've separated), the new laws can construe that as falling under 'domestic violence'/intimidation of an SO/former-SO. Please explain how you believe this law could be construed to make not paying for someone's service fall under domestic violence. Shutting off the other's telecommunications service. I read that as physically turning it off, as in to prevent a phone call ? What you describe is typically referred to in statutory language as interfering with a telecommunications device or 911 call. This could be anything from hanging up someone's phone, smashing a phone or yanking a phone cord out of the wall for us that remember having hardwired phones. "Shutting off" sounds like it could be referring to literally shutting off service. I wouldn't put it past them. |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 6:19:32 PM EST
[#36]
The more pro weed politicians are, the more anti 2nd amendment they are. She made illegal to buy a tomato plant during Civil. But she kept it legal to buy weed.
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Posted: 12/1/2023 6:19:46 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What you describe is typically referred to in statutory language as interfering with a telecommunications device or 911 call. This could be anything from hanging up someone's phone, smashing a phone or yanking a phone cord out of the wall for us that remember having hardwired phones. "Shutting off" sounds like it could be referring to literally shutting off service. I wouldn't put it past them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What the new laws do, is ensure you don't EVER want to fund a woman's cell bill, because if you stop paying/cut off her service (even if you've separated), the new laws can construe that as falling under 'domestic violence'/intimidation of an SO/former-SO. Please explain how you believe this law could be construed to make not paying for someone's service fall under domestic violence. Shutting off the other's telecommunications service. I read that as physically turning it off, as in to prevent a phone call ? What you describe is typically referred to in statutory language as interfering with a telecommunications device or 911 call. This could be anything from hanging up someone's phone, smashing a phone or yanking a phone cord out of the wall for us that remember having hardwired phones. "Shutting off" sounds like it could be referring to literally shutting off service. I wouldn't put it past them. Wouldn't doubt it. |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 6:20:43 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess the same would apply to the pilgrims coming to America or the millions of immigrants that came to America in the early 1900s then wouldn't it ? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I sense a whole lot of Michigan men are going to start liking the idea of moving to Ohio. Only the weak ones. I guess the same would apply to the pilgrims coming to America or the millions of immigrants that came to America in the early 1900s then wouldn't it ? All of those examples faced generations of persecution. MI flipped blue in 2022. Everyone needs to cool their tits. |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 6:28:28 PM EST
[#39]
 She looks like a female version of Caitlyn Jenner. |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 6:29:31 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why is there an assumption that people stuck in blue states aren't fighting ? Heck even just voting is fighting on a small level. If all someone does is move to a red state, and vote Republican, work a job and raise their families they wouldn't be dead weight. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If I lived in Michigan, I would make it top priority to move out of the state. Why, so you could take your forum of government with you? If one is not willing to stand and fight for ones rights in the state they live in, they sure aren't going to stand and fight for my right in my state. Stay where you cause we don't want you. That is pretty ignorant and completely untrue. Ever hear of a tactical retreat ? Some positions aren't savable. Your state has gotten redder. There has been an influx of people moving into Montana and Idaho as you know. Plenty of them are red voters. Would you rather they stayed away ? I think you're all missing his point. Sounds like he's saying if you aren't willing to fight for your state don't move to his and become the same deadweight that you were in your last state. Your point on tactical retreat is valid but it shouldn't be plan A. Why is there an assumption that people stuck in blue states aren't fighting ? Heck even just voting is fighting on a small level. If all someone does is move to a red state, and vote Republican, work a job and raise their families they wouldn't be dead weight. Who's making that assumption? Obviously the ones who stay are fighting. The ones who LEAVE are not. Doing all those things is fine and good until their new state is threatened by leftism then, "see ya!" The point is, they don't have any fight in them when it counts. |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 6:31:10 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Texas isn't ? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That state is lost why anyone still lives there is beyond me. Texas isn't ? 
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Posted: 12/1/2023 6:31:21 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://upnorthlive.com/resources/media2/16x9/full/1015/center/80/b6646997-08e9-4210-9f15-d7b6bd989bbf-large16x9_AP22355575326342.jpg She looks like a female version of Caitlyn Jenner. You win the internet for today - well done sir! 
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Posted: 12/1/2023 6:31:34 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: All of those examples faced generations of persecution. MI flipped blue in 2022. Everyone needs to cool their tits. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I sense a whole lot of Michigan men are going to start liking the idea of moving to Ohio. Only the weak ones. I guess the same would apply to the pilgrims coming to America or the millions of immigrants that came to America in the early 1900s then wouldn't it ? All of those examples faced generations of persecution. MI flipped blue in 2022. Everyone needs to cool their tits. It is a bit more then just 2022. They have had two democrat senators for decades, and voted R for president once in the last thirty or so years. It is definitely a D leaning state though had a R governor on occasion and isn't yet completely solid blue like CA or NJ. But we only have one life to live, and with all the new laws do you really blame someone not wanting to suffer under them just because the state hasn't been suffering for generations ? I'm sure that will be great consolation for anyone who stays who gets caught up in the new laws. BTW, their firearm laws have sucked for a very long time it isn't anything new. |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 6:34:13 PM EST
[#44]
Quoted: Another section (Sec. 540E (1)) says if you annoy or “disturb the peace and quiet of another person” who is your current or former domestic partner using a telecommunications service or device, you are guilty of a domestic violence misdemeanor. So a phone call or text message to your domestic partner is now a criminal act and loss of firearms rights. Full blown color revolution against SCOTUS and the American public. |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 6:34:15 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Who's making that assumption? Obviously the ones who stay are fighting. The ones who LEAVE are not. Doing all those things is fine and good until their new state is threatened by leftism then, "see ya!" Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If I lived in Michigan, I would make it top priority to move out of the state. Why, so you could take your forum of government with you? If one is not willing to stand and fight for ones rights in the state they live in, they sure aren't going to stand and fight for my right in my state. Stay where you cause we don't want you. That is pretty ignorant and completely untrue. Ever hear of a tactical retreat ? Some positions aren't savable. Your state has gotten redder. There has been an influx of people moving into Montana and Idaho as you know. Plenty of them are red voters. Would you rather they stayed away ? I think you're all missing his point. Sounds like he's saying if you aren't willing to fight for your state don't move to his and become the same deadweight that you were in your last state. Your point on tactical retreat is valid but it shouldn't be plan A. Why is there an assumption that people stuck in blue states aren't fighting ? Heck even just voting is fighting on a small level. If all someone does is move to a red state, and vote Republican, work a job and raise their families they wouldn't be dead weight. Who's making that assumption? Obviously the ones who stay are fighting. The ones who LEAVE are not. Doing all those things is fine and good until their new state is threatened by leftism then, "see ya!" Not necessarily. Plenty of people stay and suffer and don't fight at all. As for the second part is enough people would move we would shore up the purple and red states so they aren't threatened. I don't get the hate for conservative people that move from a blue state to a red state, its like you want people to suffer forever just because of where they were born. You really think anyone is going to fix California or New York ? No they're just going to suffer their whole life. |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 6:36:18 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: That state is lost why anyone still lives there is beyond me. Texas isn't ? It's only a few million illegals there, leave groceries and water on your front porch so they don't break into your home, it will be fine. Nice ride by the way. |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 6:36:20 PM EST
[#47]
Me waiting for Rahimi to drop….
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Posted: 12/1/2023 6:40:00 PM EST
[#48]
Laws are just words on paper until they are enforced
Who will be enforcing these? It's understandable to be mad at the politicians because they are indeed vile pieces of shit If LEO's had any spines they could easily take a stand and say "we're not enforcing this bullshit" But we all know they wont, because they are the servants of the evil system |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 6:41:48 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That state is lost why anyone still lives there is beyond me. This will happen in all states, it's just a matter of time The hubris of texans is particularly interesting. You're state is turning blue at a breakneck pace |
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Posted: 12/1/2023 6:43:29 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This will happen in all states, it's just a matter of time The hubris of texans is particularly interesting. You're state is turning blue at a breakneck pace Surely you jest! Not with those 1,000's of californians being transplanted daily.. |
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