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Posted: 9/23/2020 6:51:08 AM EST
[#1]
Horrific. Not how I would want to go out.
Did they find the bear? |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 6:59:27 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Horrific. Not how I would want to go out. Did they find the bear? Don't think so |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 7:55:17 AM EST
[#3]
what do they mean by stating "first of it's kind"? is this the first Grizzly bear attack ever? or is it shitty reporting.
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Posted: 9/23/2020 8:08:37 AM EST
[#4]
Yeah. I've heard field dressing a kill is bad ju ju when bears are active.
There was a local man attacked while on a hunt out west quite a few years ago, and the story was his young female companion shot the bear off of him. The story also said the female companion was not supposed to be along on the trip with the married guy, so he ended up divorced and losing his business. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 8:11:26 AM EST
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: what do they mean by stating "first of it's kind"? is this the first Grizzly bear attack ever? or is it shitty reporting. First in that park. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 8:14:25 AM EST
[#6]
Was the other guy unarmed? Other than I suppose a knife?
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Posted: 9/23/2020 8:15:13 AM EST
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't think so Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Horrific. Not how I would want to go out. Did they find the bear? Don't think so Out in Wrangell? That's probably odds-against. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 8:16:23 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Horrific. Not how I would want to go out. Horrific, yes, but after watching my mother’s 10 year bout with Alzheimer’s I would rather be killed by a bear. Plus, can you imagine your grandchildrens pride telling their friends that their grandpa was killed by a griz while hunting moose? Double plus - Avenge me! |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 8:16:24 AM EST
[#9]
There is a game preserve about 40 miles from here that has special draw elk tags. There are also grizzly in the area. I'm told the bears have figured out that a rifle shot is the dinner bell. There was a guy ambushed up there not long ago that had set his rifle down to begin field dressing the elk. They really need to do something to control the bear population, there are lots of them and they have no fear of man.
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Posted: 9/23/2020 8:16:33 AM EST
[#10]
Fuck bears. Fuck nature. Fuck sharks, too, while we’re at it.
I’m not interested in any activity where I’m not at the top of the food chain. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 8:17:07 AM EST
[#11]
 should have had some.....
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Posted: 9/23/2020 8:22:00 AM EST
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck bears. Fuck nature. Fuck sharks, too, while we’re at it. I’m not interested in any activity where I’m not at the top of the food chain. Everyone has a different level of risk tolerance. To me, this is like skydiving and the parachute doesn’t open. He was doing something he loved and was killed by a rare but not unexpected danger. It sucks but it beats dying of cancer or killed in a traffic accident on the way home from work. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 8:22:34 AM EST
[#13]
Why the hell would you leave your partner alone while field dressing an animal?
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Posted: 9/23/2020 8:25:22 AM EST
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah. I've heard field dressing a kill is bad ju ju when bears are active. There was a local man attacked while on a hunt out west quite a few years ago, and the story was his young female companion shot the bear off of him. The story also said the female companion was not supposed to be along on the trip with the married guy, so he ended up divorced and losing his business. Bear yells from the grave, “Wild card Bitches!” |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 8:25:44 AM EST
[#15]
Middle of the woods in grizzly country and fresh smell of meat in the air?
You better have one on sentry duty while the other one field dresses. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 8:25:50 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm told the bears have figured out that a rifle shot is the dinner bell. Was told the same thing by a Guide on the Yellowstone River. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 8:28:07 AM EST
[#17]
People don’t think bears be like it is, but it do
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Posted: 9/23/2020 8:29:11 AM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Was told the same thing by a Guide on the Yellowstone River. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm told the bears have figured out that a rifle shot is the dinner bell. Was told the same thing by a Guide on the Yellowstone River. So, if I have a bear tag.......... 1. Climb tree 2. Fire off a round 3. Watch for bear I like it. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 8:31:17 AM EST
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“Emptied his 10mm at it”
Did he hit it?? Who was shooting the 10mm-the guy who lived? |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 8:33:28 AM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck bears. Fuck nature. Fuck sharks, too, while we’re at it. I’m not interested in any activity where I’m not at the top of the food chain. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 8:35:19 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: should have had some.....https://counterassault.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/CA-18-smaller.png You are assuming that the dead guy saw it coming and could have done something about it. I have killed several black bears and it is unbelievable how quiet they can be. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 8:49:13 AM EST
[#22]
Maybe the bear was friends with the Moose they murdered. Revenge!
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Posted: 9/23/2020 8:53:46 AM EST
[#23]
Damn. Note to self: while field dressing animal in bear country have hunting partner provide overwatch.
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Posted: 9/23/2020 8:54:21 AM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: should have had some.....https://counterassault.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/CA-18-smaller.png Disappointed that 10mm didn't work. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 8:54:32 AM EST
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Posted: 9/23/2020 8:54:37 AM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: “Emptied his 10mm at it” Did he hit it?? Who was shooting the 10mm-the guy who lived? This. Any shots connect? |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 8:58:10 AM EST
[#27]
 Attached FileNot saying I could have done any better against a charging grizz but maybe the fireball would sear his face 
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Posted: 9/23/2020 9:02:56 AM EST
[#28]
Can't even imagine the adrenaline dump one would get, having a grizzly or apex predator in front of you, and you either make shit happen, or, you become preadator poo.
But yeah, being alone out in bear country field dressing an animal doesn't sound too smart. Never leave your wingman. Ever.
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Posted: 9/23/2020 9:06:37 AM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Disappointed that 10mm didn't work. Prolly a number of bears in the area. Could have been his cousin. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 9:11:21 AM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We're not even the top of the food chain when we walk our dogs. Speak for yourself. I would absolutely destroy a dog with my bare hands, in a kill or be killed attack. 2 would probably be my limit. I think 3+ would get tricky. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 9:13:37 AM EST
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Grizz is master race
For those skydiving while reading this thread and don’t have time to copy paste the link. Visitors are encouraged to be Bear Aware when traveling in the backcountry and take precautions such as carrying bear spray and using Bear Resistant Food Containers,” said the NPS in a statement following the incident. I am guessing neither of those would help the hunter killed. Thanks anyway NPS. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 9:15:32 AM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There is a game preserve about 40 miles from here that has special draw elk tags. There are also grizzly in the area. [b]I'm told the bears have figured out that a rifle shot is the dinner bell.[/b There was a guy ambushed up there not long ago that had set his rifle down to begin field dressing the elk. They really need to do something to control the bear population, there are lots of them and they have no fear of man. Black bear in our part of PA know the meaning of a rifle shot during deer season. Usually they'll pace around and huff trying to get you to move on from your kill. A few guys I've heard of have been scared off and left their whole deer, but most times Mr Bear has to settle for a get pile. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 9:17:38 AM EST
[#33]
When you go bear hunting sometimes you get the bear and sometimes it gets you.
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Posted: 9/23/2020 9:20:13 AM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Disappointed that 10mm didn't work. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: should have had some.....https://counterassault.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/CA-18-smaller.png Disappointed that 10mm didn't work. 10mm did work. The guy with the pistol didn't die, the other guy did. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 9:22:11 AM EST
[#35]
When I started hunting in the Alaska bush, one of the first things told to me is always have a partner and hurry up after getting a kill because a gunshot is a dinner bell to bears.
Was told to skin an animal while the other partner stood bear watch. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 9:35:01 AM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When I started hunting in the Alaska bush, one of the first things told to me is always have a partner and hurry up after getting a kill because a gunshot is a dinner bell to bears. Was told to skin an animal while the other partner stood bear watch. It seems the best factor for surviving a bear attack is have a buddy or two. Alone one has little chance but a second person can distract, attack and get aid. They should have. Stayed together to skin it out or both go back to camp. Or leave one guy just standing guard but not busy field dressing. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 9:37:17 AM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: what do they mean by stating "first of it's kind"? is this the first Grizzly bear attack ever? or is it shitty reporting. Just shitty reading comprehension on your part. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 9:38:44 AM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 10mm did work. The guy with the pistol didn't die, the other guy did. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: should have had some.....https://counterassault.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/CA-18-smaller.png Disappointed that 10mm didn't work. 10mm did work. The guy with the pistol didn't die, the other guy did. I feel better now.  edit: about the 10mm working, not the other guy dying. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 9:39:45 AM EST
[#39]
So the bear got the dude who left, or it got the guy who stayed to dress the moose?
I agree I would probably try and stay with my buddy in that scenario, and both of us would have rifles loaded with these |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 9:42:32 AM EST
[#40]
My oldest son has lost deer kills to Grizzlies
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Posted: 9/23/2020 9:42:47 AM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck bears. Fuck nature. Fuck sharks, too, while we’re at it. I’m not interested in any activity where I’m not at the top of the food chain. Pussy. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 9:44:16 AM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My oldest son has lost deer kills to Grizzlies Lost but lives to tell about it is OK. 
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Posted: 9/23/2020 9:48:23 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It seems the best factor for surviving a bear attack is have a buddy or two. Alone one has little chance but a second person can distract, attack and get aid. They should have. Stayed together to skin it out or both go back to camp. Or leave one guy just standing guard but not busy field dressing. I met a guy up in AK that looked like frankenstien. I've never seen someone with that many scars. Turned out he was charged while hunting and bounced a 460 off of the bear before getting mauled. His buddy shot the thing and killed it but not before it tore him up really bad. Grizzly took several big bore rounds before stopping. His hunting buddy was there at the lodge too and I noticed he wasn't paying for any of his beer. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 9:48:29 AM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why the hell would you leave your partner alone while field dressing an animal? No kidding. I don't know how I could live with myself if I left a friend or family member hanging. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 9:48:49 AM EST
[#45]
Kill all bears
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Posted: 9/23/2020 9:52:34 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Everyone has a different level of risk tolerance. To me, this is like skydiving and the parachute doesn't open. He was doing something he loved and was killed by a rare but not unexpected danger. It sucks but it beats dying of cancer or killed in a traffic accident on the way home from work. A bear attack would be akin to having your skull crushed in a bench vise. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 9:54:31 AM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Was the other guy unarmed? Other than I suppose a knife? Probably had a gun but I’d guess he was in the process of cleaning the moose. His gun if he had one was probably leaning against a tree or bush. Good chance he was bent over preoccupied and things went south before he even knew it. Smart man in grizzly / brown bear country has another guy standing there with a gun when processing game. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 9:57:52 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There is a game preserve about 40 miles from here that has special draw elk tags. There are also grizzly in the area. I'm told the bears have figured out that a rifle shot is the dinner bell. There was a guy ambushed up there not long ago that had set his rifle down to begin field dressing the elk. They really need to do something to control the bear population, there are lots of them and they have no fear of man. I’ve heard rifle shots on Kodiak Island are the same, like dinner bells to the bears. That’s a bad situation because when your done quartering, caping etc, you have to make multiple trips out with that shit strapped to your back too. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 9:59:05 AM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: should have had some.....https://counterassault.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/CA-18-smaller.png Some bears like pepper on their meat. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 10:00:59 AM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Grizz is master race For those skydiving while reading this thread and don’t have time to copy paste the link. I am guessing neither of those would help the hunter killed. Thanks anyway NPS. Quote HistoryQuoted: Grizz is master race For those skydiving while reading this thread and don’t have time to copy paste the link. Visitors are encouraged to be Bear Aware when traveling in the backcountry and take precautions such as carrying bear spray and using Bear Resistant Food Containers,” said the NPS in a statement following the incident. I am guessing neither of those would help the hunter killed. Thanks anyway NPS. Bear canisters and bags remove the reward of food from an encounter with people, or their camps. Without the reward, bears are less inclined to take risks with people. The NPS needs to stress the 95% solution. That is what keeps the vast majority of park visitors safe. When somebody falls off a cliff, the NPS doesn't put out press releases on the dangers of the American-X anchor. No, they say cliffs are dangerous and for your safety, stay off them. Because, that's what keeps the overwhelming majority of visitors safe. The Park Service will provide more detailed information to climbers, especially at backcountry offices that serve would-be cattle routes, but it's not something they distribute in a general media release. |
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