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Posted: 4/16/2022 3:36:47 PM EST
[#1]
Do you even SPARTA! bro?
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Posted: 4/16/2022 3:37:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you even SPARTA! bro? The Roman Empire also comes to mind. |
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Posted: 4/16/2022 3:38:50 PM EST
[#3]
Rome
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Posted: 4/16/2022 3:39:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you even SPARTA! bro? Spartans. Rome's Centurions. Vikings were pretty squared away. Probably some Asian countries too that don't get the attention due to us being western European centric. |
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Posted: 4/16/2022 3:40:47 PM EST
[#5]
Isreal has some quality infantry.
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Posted: 4/16/2022 3:41:06 PM EST
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Man for man the post imperial militaries in Europe have good dudes.
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Posted: 4/16/2022 3:41:09 PM EST
[#7]
Gurkhas to add something modern.
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Posted: 4/16/2022 3:41:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you even SPARTA! bro? My infantry company was on average 7 inches tall and 15 pounds heavier than the most elite spartan soldiers. We had a better diet, more and better education, knew everything about them, and had guns. |
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Posted: 4/16/2022 3:41:42 PM EST
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Poland. Legit
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Posted: 4/16/2022 3:42:11 PM EST
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And they were injected with the clot shot.
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Posted: 4/16/2022 3:42:14 PM EST
[#11]
British infantry has always been pretty good.
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Posted: 4/16/2022 3:42:18 PM EST
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No modern military has, or will, field a military as competent and capable as the German military in the 1930s. The US military derives most of its capability from technology.
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Posted: 4/16/2022 3:43:40 PM EST
[#13]
When you start believing you are the best you stop being the best.
There is always somebody better than you. |
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Posted: 4/16/2022 3:44:01 PM EST
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Why send a soldier when you can send an artillery round, rocket or bomb. You must have those weapons on hand in enough quantity to be able to waste them. The US excels at that.
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Posted: 4/16/2022 3:44:33 PM EST
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Posted: 4/16/2022 3:45:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you even SPARTA! bro? And they were defeated by the Thebans at Leuctra. When Sparta tried to rebel against Macedonian rule, they were crushed again. The Greek phalanxs reached their apex under Philip and Alexander only to be defeated by the Roman legions. |
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Posted: 4/16/2022 3:45:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No modern military has, or will, field a military as competent and capable as the German military in the 1930s. The US military derives most of its capability from technology. The German military fielded a better military in the 19 teens than Germany fielded in the 1930s and that military lost so bad they started another war in the 1930s where they lost so bad the amount of rape that went on still impacts the type of porn they produce today and they are still afraid of Russia. |
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Posted: 4/16/2022 3:46:18 PM EST
[#18]
Counting the fruits?
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Posted: 4/16/2022 3:47:07 PM EST
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The Japanese and Germans were nothing to sneeze at.
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Posted: 4/16/2022 3:49:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: British infantry has always been pretty good. Fair, however we used to be British subjects and now we are not. |
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Posted: 4/16/2022 3:50:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryBeat me. I doubt there is any country anywhere to rival the Third Reich on quality of soldiers. On a man for man basis, their infantry and most other arms were better than ours. However, by the time we got into the game Germany was on the downhill slide and was logistically destroyed and moral fading by the time we invaded France. Even by the end the German soldier was fighting above his pay grade, overall. Add in the Waffen SS premier divisions and the fighting quality goes even higher. They were not unbeatable, but they performed at a level hardly ever seen before or since. |
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Posted: 4/16/2022 3:50:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And they were defeated by the Thebans at Leuctra. When Sparta tried to rebel against Macedonian rule, they were crushed again. The Greek phalanxs reached their apex under Philip and Alexander only to be defeated by the Roman legions. Being defeated by overwhelming numbers has nothing to do with how good they were. If you are judging on wins in modern times the US Army has been defeated more often than they won. |
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Posted: 4/16/2022 3:54:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Isreal has some quality infantry. 
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Posted: 4/16/2022 3:56:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Japanese and Germans were nothing to sneeze at. We took every inch of ground we ever wanted from Japan, at the time and place of our choosing. All the while we produced enough 30-06 ball ammo to shoot every single Japanese human who remained on earth in the face 830,000 times each in preparation for an invasion that didn't come because we nuked them twice. Now they make anime and Honda civics. We didn't sneeze at the Japanese, we wiped our asses with them, and they weren't even the priority. |
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Posted: 4/16/2022 3:56:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fair, however we used to be British subjects and now we are not. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: British infantry has always been pretty good. Fair, however we used to be British subjects and now we are not. Think about it. Trying to fight a group of motivated people with a 3,000 mile supply line across uncooperative ocean with France also doing their best to fuck things up. I would say they did pretty well. Pretty much a pre-ordained outcome, but not a bad attempt. |
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Posted: 4/16/2022 4:00:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Think about it. Trying to fight a group of motivated people with a 3,000 mile supply line across uncooperative ocean with France also doing their best to fuck things up. I would say they did pretty well. Pretty much a pre-ordained outcome, but not a bad attempt. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: British infantry has always been pretty good. Fair, however we used to be British subjects and now we are not. Think about it. Trying to fight a group of motivated people with a 3,000 mile supply line across uncooperative ocean with France also doing their best to fuck things up. I would say they did pretty well. Pretty much a pre-ordained outcome, but not a bad attempt. |
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Posted: 4/16/2022 4:00:59 PM EST
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I believe that initially, the German army at the beginning of WWII had the best soldiers in modern history. However, this was not sufficient to prevent the eventual demise of Germany for a myriad of reasons.
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Posted: 4/16/2022 4:07:24 PM EST
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Considering the shit equipment and even shittier logistics they had to put up with, the WW2 German infantry did pretty well.
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Posted: 4/16/2022 4:07:31 PM EST
[#29]
English and ... the French before WW1/2
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Posted: 4/16/2022 4:07:54 PM EST
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The Australians have better quality infantry man for man than America.
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Posted: 4/16/2022 4:07:58 PM EST
[#31]
It’s not the quality or quantity of soldiers:
It’s the logistics! Amateurs talk tactics pros talk logistics. A captured German soldier at Normandy asked one of the guards “Where are all your horses?” As he watched thousands of trucks, jeeps and tanks being off loaded. Much was made of the mechanized German military but their supply chain was run by horse and steam engine trains. The US supply chain was completely motorized! |
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Posted: 4/16/2022 4:09:17 PM EST
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British in Malaya
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Posted: 4/16/2022 4:11:08 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Think about it. Trying to fight a group of motivated people with a 3,000 mile supply line across uncooperative ocean with France also doing their best to fuck things up. I would say they did pretty well. Pretty much a pre-ordained outcome, but not a bad attempt. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: British infantry has always been pretty good. Fair, however we used to be British subjects and now we are not. Think about it. Trying to fight a group of motivated people with a 3,000 mile supply line across uncooperative ocean with France also doing their best to fuck things up. I would say they did pretty well. Pretty much a pre-ordained outcome, but not a bad attempt. both sides in that unpleasantness were British |
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Posted: 4/16/2022 4:12:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Australians have better quality infantry man for man than America. Had some crazy experiences while attached to 6 RAR. |
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Posted: 4/16/2022 4:13:25 PM EST
[#35]
Ninjas
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Posted: 4/16/2022 4:16:24 PM EST
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Though I Kay he biased because I was one, I do not believe that wven a single nation or other organization has trained, equipped, or maintained a fighting force superior to ours.
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Posted: 4/16/2022 4:17:36 PM EST
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The German superman of WWII is a myth a lot of you seem to have bought into. They fucking sucked. The Kaisers Army would have stomped a mud whole in their ass almost as bad as we did. My one German family member on my dads side who survived the war surrendered to the British in N. Africa. His job was to take care of horses. Nobody from my moms side of the family remembers seeing any horses that weren't dead German horses or dead stolen French horses. They had trucks, because they didn't suck at war. To be fair though he did manage to stay in America after the war which probably took some talent because he was a British POW but I digress.
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Posted: 4/16/2022 4:18:09 PM EST
[#38]
Napoleon's infantry was nothing to sneeze at.
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Posted: 4/16/2022 4:19:43 PM EST
[#39]
WWII German infantry were excellent.
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Posted: 4/16/2022 4:20:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Had some crazy experiences while attached to 6 RAR. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The Australians have better quality infantry man for man than America. Had some crazy experiences while attached to 6 RAR. Did they shoot your M4 and then try and steal it? |
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Posted: 4/16/2022 4:22:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fair, however we used to be British subjects and now we are not. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: British infantry has always been pretty good. Fair, however we used to be British subjects and now we are not. That war was also unpopular at home in the UK, one of several wars fought at the time around the world, and one that the British only half-hearted fought, instead being content to stay in NYC and Charleston. If the British had decided to simply go balls to the wall in crushing the rebellion, you and I would have different passports today. |
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Posted: 4/16/2022 4:22:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When you start believing you are the best you stop being the best. There is always somebody better than you.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/16/2022 4:23:03 PM EST
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Wasn’t there a member here who made a pretty good thread on the infantry? I think it was titled the art of the foot soldier, or something like that. Might not have said who had the best infantry, but more about the art of a foot soldier with history thrown in. Pretty cool thread.
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Posted: 4/16/2022 4:26:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did they shoot your M4 and then try and steal it? Holy fuck, so you’ve seen it too. Not my equipment but good God they stole everything they came across. Traveled light, traveled fast and not afraid to throw down. Wished I had the opportunity to work with their SAS to compare with my experiences I had with the British SAS. |
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Posted: 4/16/2022 4:32:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wasn’t there a member here who made a pretty good thread on the infantry? I think it was titled the art of the foot soldier, or something like that. Might not have said who had the best infantry, but more about the art of a foot soldier with history thrown in. Pretty cool thread. The borrowed Valor guy made it. Always had retarded insights into things he didn't understand because he never saw combat and did fuck all during the wars. He made cool BS threads like I do, but tried to debate his betters that actually knew what was up with modern infantry combat. That thread was dumb as fuck. It was 44 pages that boiled down to wear lowas or merrels. @Daemon or @RustedAce know the guy. Claimed to be some Swedish SF sniper dude or some shit. He made a thread about a hat he made that covered up his bald spot and I jerked off to it in the back ground of a porn I was watching and told him about it and he never got back to me because he was a little bitch I assume. |
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Posted: 4/16/2022 4:37:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Holy fuck, so you’ve seen it too. Not my equipment but good God they stole everything they came across. Traveled light, traveled fast and not afraid to throw down. Wished I had the opportunity to work with their SAS to compare with my experiences I had with the British SAS. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Did they shoot your M4 and then try and steal it? Holy fuck, so you’ve seen it too. Not my equipment but good God they stole everything they came across. Traveled light, traveled fast and not afraid to throw down. Wished I had the opportunity to work with their SAS to compare with my experiences I had with the British SAS. Its not a war crime if its funny and I'm stealing this. Tada the end. Brit SAS on the other had is different. Complete opposite. They will steal your shit before they find the humor. |
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Posted: 4/16/2022 4:38:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The German superman of WWII is a myth a lot of you seem to have bought into. They fucking sucked. The Kaisers Army would have stomped a mud whole in their ass almost as bad as we did. My one German family member on my dads side who survived the war surrendered to the British in N. Africa. His job was to take care of horses. Nobody from my moms side of the family remembers seeing any horses that weren't dead German horses or dead stolen French horses. They had trucks, because they didn't suck at war. To be fair though he did manage to stay in America after the war which probably took some talent because he was a British POW but I digress. I don't think I'd go as far to say that they were bad. I think you should save that opinion for the Italians in WWII. Germany was pretty successful for most of the war. It was mostly their Army too, since the German Navy and Airforce never had the numbers to be decisive. Contrary to popular belief, they didn't have overwhelming numbers of mechanized and armored units in the war. They didn't have massive manpower or fuel reserves like the Allies. Much of the Germany Army was light infantry. They had pretty good weapons, at least at first. The MG42 machine gun and Flak88 were very good. However, the K98 rifle and MP40 were mediocre compared to Allied small arms. The STG44 was great, but produced late in the war and in small numbers. They had good tactics, leaders, and morale. I'd suggest looking at the Allied campaign in Italy after the Italians surrendered. That was largely an infantry campaign since the terrain and bottlenecks were hard for tanks. The Germans held them in Italy until the end of the war, which is telling. Italian Campaign WWII |
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Posted: 4/16/2022 4:44:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He made a thread about a hat he made that covered up his bald spot and I jerked off to it in the back ground of a porn I was watching and told him about it and he never got back to me because he was a little bitch I assume. I don’t really know what this means but it is funny as hell. |
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Posted: 4/16/2022 4:44:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Considering the shit equipment and even shittier logistics they had to put up with, the WW2 German infantry did pretty well. The Germans in both WWI and WWII were pretty much outstanding for about three years. |
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Posted: 4/16/2022 4:44:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Its not a war crime if its funny and I'm stealing this. Tada the end. Brit SAS on the other had is different. Complete opposite. They will steal your shit before they find the humor. Para Regt WOs always called the SAS NCOs ragbags. Wish I still had all my pics. I posted one I still have previously in other threads I was on my best behavior while attached to the British Army but back at Ft Bragg my CoC often called me a ragbag 
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