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Link Posted: 7/7/2016 11:37:50 AM EST
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Probably LBJ
Link Posted: 7/7/2016 1:44:07 PM EST
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What are you talking about?  This is the most transparent administration in the history of the US.
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Exactly.  Its settled, because the President has told me this and the media has told me/not found otherwise.
Link Posted: 7/7/2016 1:46:12 PM EST
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FDR and Lincoln come to mind.

Billy C had bunches of Americans murdered and covered it up, primarily Waco.
Link Posted: 7/7/2016 2:01:55 PM EST
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Iran-Contra anyone?  The R's have been far worse in the modern era when you figure the Pentagon Papers, Watergate, Weapons of Mass Destruction, Too Big to Fail.  Obama has been as ineffective as Carter but he corruption isn't his big failing.
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Pentagon papers were under LBJ and were actually a fake scandal created by the media.

Weapons of mass destruction isn't a scandal.

Obama's scandals involved running guns to cartels to take away the rights of Americans, and using the IRS to go after conservatives. Far worse than anything seen before, at least in the open.

Link Posted: 7/7/2016 2:03:33 PM EST
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Depends. We don't know what wasn't discovered in any administration. By what is known the current administration is the most corrupt. They won't likely hold the record for long if Hitlery gets in.
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The issue isn't what isn't discovered. The issue is what is known without consequence.

Clinton likely use the IRS as a weapon, but it is worse with Obama because we know it happened and there were no consequences.
Link Posted: 7/7/2016 2:06:23 PM EST
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Of course. Both Clinton and Reagan make the Obama crew look like girl scouts. In fact the real (rather than talk radio) world, Obama's administration has been one of the least corrupt in recent decades -- and his big "scandal" involves (surprise surprise) Clinton. In the real world Obama hasn't really done much of anything other than continuing wars and programs and spending levels started by previous administrations. The GOP has been watching the guy through a microscope and they have nothing. Not even any good specific allegations. They're left sputtering out vague innuendo and harping on his middle name and his apparent preference for rap music.

I am certainly no Obama fan. I disagree with him policy wise virtually across the board. But the guy inherited an economy in complete horror mode collapse plus CBO projected 1.3 trillion per year deficits going forward indefinately, and he managed to not make things worse. The irrational hatred of Obama does not help win supporters to our side, it just makes us look silly.
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DOJ lied in a letter to Congress covering up Fast and Furious. Holder lied. Obama covered for him

The IRS target conservatives. Learner took the 5th. The DOJ didn't prosecute.

These are two of the worst scandals of modern times which were covered up in open sight. Obama's America is a banana republic.
Link Posted: 7/7/2016 2:08:45 PM EST
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Link Posted: 7/7/2016 2:09:08 PM EST
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Nuclear deal with Iran

Slimeball mid east refugees

Major hassan workplace violence

Keystone piipeline

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Obama care and it is not a tax



 
Link Posted: 7/7/2016 2:11:37 PM EST
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Let's start a list:  

ACORN voter fraud.  
DOJ cover up.  
ATF Fast and Furious gun running to Mexican cartels to build a case for gun control legislation.  
Death of US Border Patrol agent(s) involving ATF F&F walking guns.  
.50 cal walking ATF F&F gun found in El Chapo's compound.  
DOJ coverup.  
IRS targeting of political opponents.  
DOJ cover up.  
State Dept. lies to cover up of Benghazi Libya.  
Clinton email security scandal.
DOJ/FBI coverup.

What am I forgetting?
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Let's start a list:  

ACORN voter fraud.  
DOJ cover up.  
ATF Fast and Furious gun running to Mexican cartels to build a case for gun control legislation.  
Death of US Border Patrol agent(s) involving ATF F&F walking guns.  
.50 cal walking ATF F&F gun found in El Chapo's compound.  
DOJ coverup.  
IRS targeting of political opponents.  
DOJ cover up.  
State Dept. lies to cover up of Benghazi Libya.  
Clinton email security scandal.
DOJ/FBI coverup.

What am I forgetting?


Bowe Berghdal deal
Link Posted: 7/7/2016 2:14:08 PM EST
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This....

Hillary would make Bill look like a piker....
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Not yet.


This....

Hillary would make Bill look like a piker....


You meant to say that Hillary is going to bilk the tax payers for billions and redistribute it amongst her friends and allies.
Link Posted: 7/7/2016 2:17:25 PM EST
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I am certainly no Obama fan. I disagree with him policy wise virtually across the board. But the guy inherited an economy in complete horror mode collapse plus CBO projected 1.3 trillion per year deficits going forward indefinately, and he managed to not make things worse. The irrational hatred of Obama does not help win supporters to our side, it just makes us look silly.
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What happens after a recession is a rebound. Obama inherited an economy that was a great opportunity since it would rebound with excellent growth and make him look like a rock star, except he fucked it up. Dodd Frank is probably the main reason for the lack of a recovery after Obama. The only good economic fundamental of the Obama era is low energy prices, and that is despite, not due to his policies.
Link Posted: 7/7/2016 2:17:58 PM EST
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Let's start a list:  

ACORN voter fraud.  
DOJ cover up.  
ATF Fast and Furious gun running to Mexican cartels to build a case for gun control legislation.  
Death of US Border Patrol agent(s) involving ATF F&F walking guns.  
.50 cal walking ATF F&F gun found in El Chapo's compound.  
DOJ coverup.  
IRS targeting of political opponents.  
DOJ cover up.  
State Dept. lies to cover up of Benghazi Libya.  
Clinton email security scandal.
DOJ/FBI coverup.

What am I forgetting?
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Let's start a list:  

ACORN voter fraud.  
DOJ cover up.  
ATF Fast and Furious gun running to Mexican cartels to build a case for gun control legislation.  
Death of US Border Patrol agent(s) involving ATF F&F walking guns.  
.50 cal walking ATF F&F gun found in El Chapo's compound.  
DOJ coverup.  
IRS targeting of political opponents.  
DOJ cover up.  
State Dept. lies to cover up of Benghazi Libya.  
Clinton email security scandal.
DOJ/FBI coverup.

What am I forgetting?


Uh, the F&F AK used in the French terror attack? The F&F guns found in Colombia? The F&F guns continually turning up at crime scenes in Arizona, Texas, New Mexico?
Link Posted: 7/7/2016 2:21:16 PM EST
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Lincoln did whatever the fuck he wanted, killed a million Americans, and totally trashed the Constitution.  That's gonna be hard to beat.
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Oh good god. Apply some context. You don't follow the Constitution while fighting a civil war. The South sure didn't.



Link Posted: 7/7/2016 2:22:20 PM EST
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Lincoln started the war that yall are still butthurt about?  Who fired on Fort Sumter?
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Lincoln did whatever the fuck he wanted, killed a million Americans, and totally trashed the Constitution.  That's gonna be hard to beat.

Lincoln started the war that yall are still butthurt about?  Who fired on Fort Sumter?
I'm from Wisconsin, so, not that.
Link Posted: 7/7/2016 2:22:45 PM EST
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Uh, the F&F AK used in the French terror attack? The F&F guns found in Colombia? The F&F guns continually turning up at crime scenes in Arizona, Texas, New Mexico?
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Let's start a list:  

ACORN voter fraud.  
DOJ cover up.  
ATF Fast and Furious gun running to Mexican cartels to build a case for gun control legislation.  
Death of US Border Patrol agent(s) involving ATF F&F walking guns.  
.50 cal walking ATF F&F gun found in El Chapo's compound.  
DOJ coverup.  
IRS targeting of political opponents.  
DOJ cover up.  
State Dept. lies to cover up of Benghazi Libya.  
Clinton email security scandal.
DOJ/FBI coverup.

What am I forgetting?


Uh, the F&F AK used in the French terror attack? The F&F guns found in Colombia? The F&F guns continually turning up at crime scenes in Arizona, Texas, New Mexico?


All part of the same scandal. However, the attempted terrorist attack in Garland, TX used a F&F gun as well. It wasn't just F&F, the feds had a similar program in FL, and possibly elsewhere.

Link Posted: 7/7/2016 2:42:27 PM EST
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There's still time, and they're certainly working hard to bring home the trophy.
Link Posted: 7/7/2016 2:45:34 PM EST
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Bowe Berghdal deal
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Let's start a list:  

ACORN voter fraud.  
DOJ cover up.  
ATF Fast and Furious gun running to Mexican cartels to build a case for gun control legislation.  
Death of US Border Patrol agent(s) involving ATF F&F walking guns.  
.50 cal walking ATF F&F gun found in El Chapo's compound.  
DOJ coverup.  
IRS targeting of political opponents.  
DOJ cover up.  
State Dept. lies to cover up of Benghazi Libya.  
Clinton email security scandal.
DOJ/FBI coverup.

What am I forgetting?


Bowe Berghdal deal


Absolutely.  Nice call.
Link Posted: 7/7/2016 2:46:47 PM EST
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Uh, the F&F AK used in the French terror attack? The F&F guns found in Colombia? The F&F guns continually turning up at crime scenes in Arizona, Texas, New Mexico?
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Let's start a list:  

ACORN voter fraud.  
DOJ cover up.  
ATF Fast and Furious gun running to Mexican cartels to build a case for gun control legislation.  
Death of US Border Patrol agent(s) involving ATF F&F walking guns.  
.50 cal walking ATF F&F gun found in El Chapo's compound.  
DOJ coverup.  
IRS targeting of political opponents.  
DOJ cover up.  
State Dept. lies to cover up of Benghazi Libya.  
Clinton email security scandal.
DOJ/FBI coverup.

What am I forgetting?


Uh, the F&F AK used in the French terror attack? The F&F guns found in Colombia? The F&F guns continually turning up at crime scenes in Arizona, Texas, New Mexico?
 

I didn't know one came up in the French terror attack.  Are you sure?  If so, holy fucking buckets of shit.  
Link Posted: 7/7/2016 3:02:16 PM EST
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and to think her campaign staff was actively lying on live media streams while the Director was testifying.
Not one of the people including her attorneys had the security clearance necessary to have any access to 'her emails
but yet her campaign staff lied and said they all did.
Link Posted: 7/7/2016 3:31:52 PM EST
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Possibly next term
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This if Trump fails to win
Link Posted: 7/7/2016 7:48:01 PM EST
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What makes you think you are so important that you get to decide what is valid and what isn't?  No one gives a fuck about your semantics.
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By what metric are you making that assessment OP?

DUH    Get your head out of the sand





That is not a metric. Try again.






What makes you think you are so important that you get to decide what is valid and what isn't?  No one gives a fuck about your semantics.
That's the only way progressives can argue, by bogging down the discussion in semantics.

 
Link Posted: 7/7/2016 7:56:27 PM EST
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I hear some colleges actually offer classes on US political history. One item that comes to mind is Lincoln's quote that the only thing one of his cabinet members would not steal was a red hot stove.



But don't let that stop you from the fun of foaming at the mouth about whatever. Learning history sucks.
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I hear some colleges actually offer classes on US political history. One item that comes to mind is Lincoln's quote that the only thing one of his cabinet members would not steal was a red hot stove.



But don't let that stop you from the fun of foaming at the mouth about whatever. Learning history sucks.
That is absolutely rich coming from you.

 
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