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Link Posted: 3/29/2019 11:50:33 PM EST
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2020 it is

442 ft lbs of torque . Rated to tow less though
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How did they fuck that up?
Link Posted: 3/29/2019 11:50:36 PM EST
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ZR2 has a 30 inch approach angle and 23.5 inches of departure space.
Link Posted: 3/29/2019 11:55:46 PM EST
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Link Posted: 3/29/2019 11:56:36 PM EST
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Two dirtbikes fit in the bed just fine.

http://motoxmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/jeep-gladiator.jpg
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Yeah, that’s partially out of the bed.   Fitting in the bed you’d be able to close the tailgate, so....
Link Posted: 3/30/2019 12:00:47 AM EST
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The Honda Ridgeline is more of a truck than that thing.
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Are you legitimately that ignorant, or are you trolling?
Link Posted: 3/30/2019 12:04:05 AM EST
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Reported.
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Link Posted: 3/30/2019 12:46:42 AM EST
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The media embargo on the Gladiator details was lifted at midnight Eastern.

All the automotive YouTube channels should have reviews up with initial impressions from a media event.

2020 Jeep Gladiator | Part Jeep, Part Truck


Jeep's web page should be updated soon, but AoA has the following pricing for 6 speed manual trucks:

Sport $33,545
Sport S $36,745
Overland $40,395
Rubicon $43,545

A Launch Edition will be $60,815, and loaded up Rubicons can hit that $60k price point as well.
Link Posted: 3/30/2019 12:58:05 AM EST
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2020 Jeep Gladiator - First Drive
Link Posted: 3/30/2019 1:17:43 AM EST
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The media embargo on the Gladiator details was lifted at midnight Eastern.

All the automotive YouTube channels should have reviews up with initial impressions from a media event.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1tt1Tut698

Jeep's web page should be updated soon, but AoA has the following pricing for 6 speed manual trucks:

Sport $33,545
Sport S $36,745
Overland $40,395
Rubicon $43,545

A Launch Edition will be $60,815, and loaded up Rubicons can hit that $60k price point as well.
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My next 6 years will be stuck at work making these things..
Link Posted: 3/30/2019 1:54:08 AM EST
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How did they fuck that up?
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It has to do with cooling and the biggest radiator they can stuff in it that results in that.

Pricing as well as reviews are out.

https://www.slashgear.com/2020-jeep-gladiator-price-availability-epa-fuel-economy-launch-edition-29571474/

Jeep Gladiator Rubicon vs. Chevy Colorado ZR2 - 2019 Off-Road Truck Comparison
Link Posted: 3/30/2019 6:22:32 AM EST
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I think the Ram Rebel will clear 35s. I'm positive the Power Wagon will.

And the Power Wagon is only a foot longer than the Gladiator.
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You're correct, but I was referring to the midsize competition.

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What does "minimal mods" translate to, and how does that compare to the competition?

Now account for the fact that the Gladiator is almost guaranteed to be more expensive than its peers. Dollar for dollar, how hard would it be to put a Colorado or Ranger on similarly large tires?

I don't have a dog in this fight, but from where I sit on the outside looking in, it looks like the Gladiator is at somewhat of an offroad disadvantage due to the wheelbase.
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How to fit 35" tires-

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Pull off factory tires, put on 35s

Tacoma
-Fender Cutting
-Cab mount chopping
-Firewall hammering
-Correct wheel back spacing
-3"+ lift

Ranger
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Colorado/Canyon
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I don't know if there is anything standardized for the Ranger and GM twins, as they don't have anything close to the aftermarket and online community support that Toyota does.

The Gladiator is shorter than the LWB Tacoma. The long bed's shortcomings, compared to the short bed is the TacomaWorld equivalent of 9mm vs 45.

Basically, the Gladiator's length, compared to other trucks in class, is a non issue. It's completely overshadowed by all of the advantages it will have.
Link Posted: 3/30/2019 7:44:01 AM EST
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How much? 60k?
Link Posted: 3/30/2019 8:28:19 AM EST
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How much? 60k?
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In the most loaded form. Prices are comparable to the other mid sized 4wd trucks in the lower trims.
Link Posted: 3/30/2019 8:37:19 AM EST
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I've seen one every morning going to work for the last month.

Manufacturers test vehicles.

Looks like a Honda Ridgeline.
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Lol not even close. The Ridgeline is hideous.
Link Posted: 3/30/2019 8:45:23 AM EST
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I like it just don't overprice it.
Link Posted: 3/30/2019 10:17:53 AM EST
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Two dirtbikes fit in the bed just fine.

http://motoxmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/jeep-gladiator.jpg
Yeah, that’s partially out of the bed.   Fitting in the bed you’d be able to close the tailgate, so....
Being able to carry anything without other equipment means they fit.
Link Posted: 3/30/2019 10:19:37 AM EST
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I like it just don't overprice it.
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$60k+ for a loaded up Rubicon sounds about right.
Link Posted: 3/30/2019 4:43:06 PM EST
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Gladiator Rubicon or Tacoma TRD Pro. Decisions decisions
Link Posted: 3/30/2019 5:42:26 PM EST
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TFL Truck has a nice vid from the media day with a small offroad course they created. Love the looks of this truck.

Hardtop only though. I’ve seen the soft tops running around and they look gimmicky to me.
Link Posted: 3/30/2019 5:49:42 PM EST
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In the most loaded form. Prices are comparable to the other mid sized 4wd trucks in the lower trims.
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How much? 60k?
In the most loaded form. Prices are comparable to the other mid sized 4wd trucks in the lower trims.
10% under sticker from any volume dealer. There are lists of those on the jeep forums. Figure 54k fully loaded.
Link Posted: 3/30/2019 6:11:00 PM EST
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TFL Truck has a nice vid from the media day with a small offroad course they created. Love the looks of this truck.

Hardtop only though. I’ve seen the soft tops running around and they look gimmicky to me.
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It's a Jeep thing.

Link Posted: 3/30/2019 6:30:55 PM EST
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It's a Jeep thing.

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TFL Truck has a nice vid from the media day with a small offroad course they created. Love the looks of this truck.

Hardtop only though. I’ve seen the soft tops running around and they look gimmicky to me.
It's a Jeep thing.

*shrug* I like hardtops. The removable freedom hard top looks nice, I’d rock that.
Link Posted: 3/30/2019 6:37:35 PM EST
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*shrug* I like hardtops. The removable freedom hard top looks nice, I’d rock that.
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I meant something more along the lines of the whole thing being gimmicky.

I did see a hardtop I rather liked yesterday on a JKU. It was domed up, kinda like the top of a Land Rover Disco.
Link Posted: 3/30/2019 7:24:03 PM EST
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I meant something more along the lines of the whole thing being gimmicky.

I did see a hardtop I rather liked yesterday on a JKU. It was domed up, kinda like the top of a Land Rover Disco.
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I've never seen one outside of renderings, but there was one that looked like a Safari top on a Series Rover.

Link Posted: 3/30/2019 7:32:30 PM EST
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I've never seen one outside of renderings, but there was one that looked like a Safari top on a Series Rover.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--OzNe9d5N--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/nfvza1xjwvplurqhhfop.jpg
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I meant something more along the lines of the whole thing being gimmicky.

I did see a hardtop I rather liked yesterday on a JKU. It was domed up, kinda like the top of a Land Rover Disco.
I've never seen one outside of renderings, but there was one that looked like a Safari top on a Series Rover.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--OzNe9d5N--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/nfvza1xjwvplurqhhfop.jpg
Yeah, I think that was it.
Link Posted: 3/30/2019 8:41:36 PM EST
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Are they out already? Pretty sure I saw one today.Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 3/30/2019 8:42:38 PM EST
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Are they out already? Pretty sure I saw one today.https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/150818/20190330_121819-1_jpg-895852.JPG
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It's a Brute.
Link Posted: 3/30/2019 8:57:48 PM EST
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It's a Brute.
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Some sort of custom Wrangler and not a Gladiator?
Link Posted: 3/30/2019 9:01:39 PM EST
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Are they out already? Pretty sure I saw one today.https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/150818/20190330_121819-1_jpg-895852.JPG
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You dik, why didn't you go get all up in his business?!
Link Posted: 3/30/2019 9:07:20 PM EST
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Some sort of custom Wrangler and not a Gladiator?
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It's a Brute.
Some sort of custom Wrangler and not a Gladiator?
Correct. Made by AEV.
Link Posted: 3/30/2019 9:15:28 PM EST
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For what? It's a light duty pickup and off-roader.

Just because your pointless SRT-10 novelty truck had 500+ HP doesn't mean it would serve any practical purpose whatsoever in something like the Gladiator.

The Pentastar makes more than enough power for a vehicle of that type, and I would guess the overwhelming majority of people who buy it will rarely break 4k RPMs anyways.
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Well you need the 500+ HP so you can break shit in really inconvenient places.   Helps get that CG up too.
Link Posted: 3/30/2019 9:25:53 PM EST
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Good eye by Joshie. I do recall Brute on the tailgate. I figured it was some sticker package.
Link Posted: 3/30/2019 9:55:14 PM EST
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Have you looked at JKU/JLU pricing?

Those can and do sell into the $50k range for Rubicons and Saharas. They start mid-$30k range for pretty basic models.

Now add a bed and account for the fact that these will have even more of a cool factor, and yeah, a bunch of these are going to sell in the $50k range.
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I really wonder how many of the Rubicons will sell. Just looking around at what's available only 10% or so of the current Wrangler Unlimited stock in the state are Rubicons. (Side note: a total of 5% of Wrangler Unlimited are sold with the manual)

I think the sweet spot will be the models in the 35-40k range, the current hot spot of mid sized trucks. Some sacrifices will need to be made in options to get there, but it will still have a nice niche compared to the competition in that range.
Link Posted: 3/31/2019 5:02:55 AM EST
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I really wonder how many of the Rubicons will sell. Just looking around at what's available only 10% or so of the current Wrangler Unlimited stock in the state are Rubicons. (Side note: a total of 5% of Wrangler Unlimited are sold with the manual)

I think the sweet spot will be the models in the 35-40k range, the current hot spot of mid sized trucks. Some sacrifices will need to be made in options to get there, but it will still have a nice niche compared to the competition in that range.
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Rubicons and raptors are everywhere in my town, but that 10% figure is probably accurate. They are just attention grabbers, compared to lower trim Jeeps and trucks.
Link Posted: 4/1/2019 6:29:06 PM EST
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The build and price tool went live today.

My just for fun Sport S build was deep into the $40k range.
Link Posted: 4/1/2019 6:35:58 PM EST
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The build and price tool went live today.

My just for fun Sport S build was deep into the $40k range.
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I'm gonna go build a decked out Rubicon. Hold my beer.

ETA: $63,645
Link Posted: 4/1/2019 6:47:16 PM EST
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Two dirtbikes fit in the bed just fine.

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The new Jeep looks horrible with the top off but the doors on.
Link Posted: 4/1/2019 10:40:49 PM EST
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Disregard
Link Posted: 4/1/2019 10:56:15 PM EST
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Electronic trailer brake option isn’t available anymore. That’s one of the most important options for this truck imo
Link Posted: 4/2/2019 6:28:43 AM EST
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The new Jeep looks horrible with the top off but the doors on.
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They all do. It's like fools who drive around with a convertible corvette, mustang or Camaro with the windows rolled up.
Link Posted: 4/2/2019 6:37:08 AM EST
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Electronic trailer brake option isn’t available anymore. That’s one of the most important options for this truck imo
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Maybe year 2 or 3...?
Link Posted: 4/2/2019 8:36:54 AM EST
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Link Posted: 4/2/2019 9:11:49 PM EST
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Launch edition goes live tomorrow for people who signed up for email updates awhile ago. However, rumor is that they won't start producing launch editions until wave 3 so don't expect delivery for 4-6 months on one.
Link Posted: 4/2/2019 9:21:49 PM EST
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What do you want to know about them?

Been building them for a while now

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Starting price
Link Posted: 4/2/2019 10:33:53 PM EST
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I took pictures and a video of one in the Wild a few weeks ago. Looked damn good.
Link Posted: 4/2/2019 10:45:46 PM EST
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It wouldn't fit in my garage with that length.
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Nobody uses their garage for vehicles in Texas. I'm not sure if that's due to lack of snow, or what. I've never experienced "sun damage" either.
Link Posted: 4/2/2019 10:46:42 PM EST
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Launch edition goes live tomorrow for people who signed up for email updates awhile ago. However, rumor is that they won't start producing launch editions until wave 3 so don't expect delivery for 4-6 months on one.
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They leaked a "short cab" version. Hopefully this will be available in 2dr!
Link Posted: 4/2/2019 11:28:56 PM EST
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They leaked a "short cab" version. Hopefully this will be available in 2dr!
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Launch edition goes live tomorrow for people who signed up for email updates awhile ago. However, rumor is that they won't start producing launch editions until wave 3 so don't expect delivery for 4-6 months on one.
They leaked a "short cab" version. Hopefully this will be available in 2dr!
Then it's only as long as a Tahoe!
Link Posted: 4/3/2019 8:53:45 AM EST
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They leaked a "short cab" version. Hopefully this will be available in 2dr!
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That was an April fools day joke. But it does look awesome.

https://www.quadratec.com/c/blog/jeep-announces-2dr-gladiator-truck
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